Curvy frame for sale - Track use only

[sickboygti]

As above, curvy frame from a 1999 bike for sale. No VIN so cannot go back on the road. Would be excellent to use as basis for a track bike.

Straight, no damage as fell on frame protectors. Slight scratch on nearside (see pic). Otherwise great condition. Bought for the engine that was in it but do not need the frame.

No idea of how much its worth so any reasonable offer accepted.

Collection from Washington, Tyne and Wear only.

Any questions please pm or email me at brenoneil@hotmail.com

Thanks

Bren

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[sickboygti]

Bumpety bump.

Before I sell it for scrap metal......

:D

[yorkie_chris]

I'll give you more than scrap value for it, have to be posted though

[Jester666]

£50? I'll arrange pickup! PM me.

[Jester666]

Due to unforseen circumstances this is still for sale. :-(

[Ter]

Due to unforseen circumstances this is still for sale. :-(

:rolleyes:

[sickboygti]

As above, still for sale!

Collection only though.....

Cheers

Bren

[Blue_SV650S]

No frame numbers??? ... why no VIN? Sounds fishy ... 8-[

[yorkie_chris]

Not glowing on the photos, can't be that warm :p

[Blue_SV650S]

Not glowing on the photos, can't be that warm :p

sickboygti might be legit himself, but if a frame has lost its numbers one has to question why ... presuming sickboygti bought it in good faith (and isn't a crook himself), I'd not want to support the trade any further buy buying a frame with no numbers ... (or seeing one sold) as it has almost certainly been nicked at some point right??? :shock: its just cooled off a bit by now?!!? ...

[G]

I never like to stereotype or judge people prematurely....but with a name like 'sickboygti'........and a frame with not ID.....you have to dont you?

[yorkie_chris]

Only reason I wanted it was in case I fell off and damaged my own frame, got a spare then and just determine its origin, accquire a V5 and register it properly.

Is that an alphadot sticker on the side of it?

[Blue_SV650S]

got a spare then and just swap the tags over.

I can't believe you just said that!!! :shock::shock::shock::shock: That is an highly illegal act in itself!!! :shock::shock::shock:

Dude, you need a re-think ... :-s

[G]

75% of 2nd hand bike stuff on ebay is supposed to be dodgy

[yorkie_chris]

Dude, you need a re-think ... :-s

Better?

[Blue_SV650S]

Better?

You are not going to be able to 'determine its origin' if the frame numbers have been ground off it ... I'd imagine if you took it to DVLA and asked them to register it, they would prolly call the cops??? I hope they would anyway? :smt102

A frame with numbers but no V5 is ok, you can then see if you can re-register it, but one with no numbers ... surely there is only one way that happened??? ;)

[yorkie_chris]

Thats why I'm asking about the alphadot sticker thing, must be a way to trace that.
I presumed it was some sort of write off and easier for it be unidentified than scrapped. :confused:

#shrug# Hadn't thought of it that way, so I'll leave it

[Blue_SV650S]

Thats why I'm asking about the alphadot sticker thing, must be a way to trace that.
I presumed it was some sort of write off and easier for it be unidentified than scrapped. :confused:

#shrug# Hadn't thought of it that way, so I'll leave it

I have bought 3 'written off' bikes ... ALL have still had their frame numbers ... and one the frame was so badly damaged it'd never see the light again (see pick below and highlighted split) ... so unlike rumour has it, I am not sure it is common practice for insurance co's to do that???

Now that is a bust frame (and wheel) .. and it still has numbers!!!

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The only way I can see a frame with no numbers can legitimately exist is if it has been previously pinched, then recovered by the authorities and then found its way to a breakers yard as salvage. If that is the case then it should come with the relevant receipt. Are they even allowed to sell it?

Either way, it is still going to useless if the intention is to ride on the road ...

[G]

I'm sure i read somewhere that police occasionally turn upto track day and races to check the identity of bikes and if number were ground off there had to be a damn good rreason for it.

[sickboygti]

Frame was bought off a breaker who acquired it from insurance company and was not allowed back on the road (cat b?) hence frame numbers removed. Whether by insurance company or breaker I don't know, hell I only bought it for the engine and the guy seemed legit as anything.

I assumed it would be ok for a track bike? Perhaps I was wrong. If so it'll be scrapped.

And graemepaterson, thanks for your comments.
I hardly want to post my full name on forums thanks.
FYI, the nickname sickboygti came from me used to having hair dyed like him off trainspotting, and owning a gti.

But hell yes I must be dodgy with a name like that...

[sickboygti]

Only reason I wanted it was in case I fell off and damaged my own frame, got a spare then and just determine its origin, accquire a V5 and register it properly.

Is that an alphadot sticker on the side of it?


It IS an alphadot sticker. I'll try and get some history on it...

[G]

thanks for your comments.
...

No probs I aim to please


I hardly want to post my full name on forums


Why not? I have been doing it since the internet existed and never had a problem.

[sickboygti]

No probs I aim to please



Why not? I have been doing it since the internet existed and never had a problem.

Lucky for you, but its just my own personal preference...

[Blue_SV650S]

Like I said, my frame was a big write off and it had the frame numbers still ... did the bloke you got it from show you the receipt from the breakers?? The only reason an insurance company would take the numbers off is is the frame was in a state where it was so unsafe it should never be used again surely?? in that case it isn't safe to use on a trackbike?!!?

These things probably pass through quite a few hands 'in good faith', presuming in reality it wasn't actually legitimate, unfortunately, every time it is passed on from there it is still supporting the trade!! :( ... supply and demand and all that ...

graemepaterson - don't make too many assumptions!

sickboygti - ringing alpadot number is a great idea, I presume worst case is the frame gets taken off you and it solves one missing bike off the list!! ... but it might also open a can of worms!!! ... unless you can produce the breakers receipt, I'd cut it in two (or more) and take it down the dump (if you don't cut it up, then someone will fish it out ... pay the dump bloke a tenner (or whatever) for it and the cycle continues ... if you can't prove its legitimacy, I think you have a duty of care now to cut it up an scrap it properly to end the cycle forever!!! ;)

Just out of interest, did the engine have its numbers?

[yorkie_chris]

Well, as I understand it once a bike is cat B it can't be put back on the road, cat B being parts only. However I don't know why a bike would be cat B unless the frame was damaged.
This could explain it, as this particular VIN number can't be put back on the road, hence why a breaker wouldn't give it out with V5 etc. But why remove the VIN?

[Blue_SV650S]

... But why remove the VIN?

Precisely, my frame was obviously never allowed to go on the road again (it was split in two for goodness sake!!) and yet it retained its number ...

Perhaps it is one of those things that isn't law, but a practice that is carried out by some ins companies!?!?

Either way, it can't be good to run a chassis that has been deemed unable/unsuitable to go back on the road at some point?!?! :smt103

[yorkie_chris]

Says the man with mismatched remoulds on square wheels :p

I'd run it if it looked straight with no cracks (and wasn't likely to get me nicked, which I hadn't thought of!)

[sickboygti]

Breaker advised me that bike was a write off from insurance company. He said he couldnt understand why it was a CAT B as he had the whole bike and it had been rear-ended. Only damage appeared to be the subframe and plastics (it still had part of the subframe (albeit broken) attached).

Would the insurance company write it off (CATB) if the bike was uneconomical to repair? Or would that generally be a CAT C write off?

The engine does have its numbers intact. I would have thought the breaker would have just sold the engine on its own if the frame had a dodgy history.

Perhaps its better just to cut it up as you say. it doesnt seem worth the hassle to sell it. Or I might make it into a table of somesort :)

[phil24_7]

Ooh, coffee table, great idea. Nice bit of glass on top and put it pride of place in the living room.

Mrs24_7 would go nuts if I did that!