sv650 to a fz1 is it to big of a step up

[jans1971]

looking for a new bike middle of next year , i did fancy a buell but now a fz1 looks like the one , is it to big for my 2nd big bike , passed my test 4 months ago.

[Ratty46]

i wouldnt.... FZ1 can be a bit lurchy in the lower revs, its a big heavy not too mention powerfull bike.

i may be wrong but i wouldnt, not just yet.

[yorkie_chris]

Do it, itll only feel big for a while, you've had the SV as a starter bike to get used to how to ride, now get what you want.
But testride first.

[sv-robo]

if it had been an r1 then it might have been the equivelent of passing your test in a robin reliant,then going out and buying a lambourgini.

as its an fz1,still quite a bit of differance in power considering you recently passed your test,but its not to big a step up so you should be fine.

ps didnt meen to make it sound like an sv was like a reliant,there great bikes i luv mine.:D

[Fizzy Fish]

i'd suggest making sure that you know why you're going for that bike and what it will deliver before making a decision.

I can totally understand the whole 'i like that one, it looks the dogs *******s!' thing, but bear in mind that bigger ccs isn't always a step forwards (e.g. more chance of the rear wheel spinning up in the wet)

we had a thread on here recently about why spending more time (or even staying) on a mid sized bike can be a better option to develop riding skills, etc - may be worth a read

the FZ1 is probably one of the safer/more user friendly 1000cc bikes though, so if you've thought about the above and like the bike (including on a test ride) then no particular reason why you shouldn't...

[Wideboy]

ps didnt meen to make it sound like an sv was like a reliant,there great bikes i luv mine.:D

yeah but yours is a pointy so i can understand that:smt056

like yorkie said, take a test ride see what you think, i personally wouldn't as its to upright for me as i like sports bikes

[-Ralph-]

Depends on how well screwed on your head is really. It may be 1000cc but it's only as quick as you twist the throttle.

If your a bit of a "has no fear" bad boy on the SV, for instance, sometimes you arrive into hazards a bit too "wooooaaaah" quick, stay on the SV for at least another year, if not two. You'll arrive into hazards a lot quicker on a 1000cc without realising it. Because of your experience level, the trouble will be on you before realise it and it'll be too late to do anything about it.

If your quite sensible and can take it nice and easy until you've got used to the power, and you know the time and place for using that power, go for it. All you need to ride a 1000cc is a level head and respect for the bikes capabilities and a little bit of fear!

You know which one you are.

[sarah]

I reckon Ralph's probably right.

I went from riding an SV650s to a Z1000 a couple of months after I passed my test.

[Ed]

No of course it isn't too big a step as long as you treat it with respect and ride within your capabilities.

[Sean_C]

I reckon if you ride throughout the winter, you'll be a much better rider by the time you're thinking of changing.

I'd suggest taking it for a long long test drive, if you can. Try and fit in everything you normally do- be it blasts along country roads, a bit of town riding, etc, just to see how the whole thing feels. If it feels right, get it :)

disclaimer: I'm a newbie :P

[northwind]

Entirely down to the rider... But do test ride it first, I've never ridden one myself but they're famous for crap throttle response etc. Shame if it's true.

[Beenz]

Having tested the FZ-1 and also done 10K miles on the SV I can honestly say that the difference in power is huge (nearly twice as much in fact). Size wise it's very small and wonderfully balanced with superb brakes and a cracking chassis. It's pretty light too.

Take your time getting used to it and you should be fine. Treat that loud grip with respect and gradually get used to winding it on to the upper revs (where the power really starts to rush in) and you'll have no problem. Personally I think the FZ is a cracking bike, useable power low down like the SV but it revs out to reveal the sports heritage of the former R1 engine. I think you'll love it. It's certainly one of the better alternatives. Also consider the Z1000 although the new one has lost it's edge and is a tad softer compared to the older zed.

If only the FZ had the gixer thou K6 lump it would be even better.

[Beenz]

Entirely down to the rider... But do test ride it first, I've never ridden one myself but they're famous for crap throttle response etc. Shame if it's true.

This is true for the 06 bikes that were more than a tad snatchy, the 07 spec is very smooth, only a very slight lag in response should you snap the throttle open.

[northwind]

Nice one. I could be losing it, but I seem to remember Yamaha saying it was actually designed that way, and that their market research showed it was what people wanted :smt103

[Beenz]

Nice one. I could be losing it, but I seem to remember Yamaha saying it was actually designed that way, and that their market research showed it was what people wanted :smt103

Allegedly this is true, also of the GSF600 suzi. At least Yam had the b@lls to sort it for the 07 models.

[ASM-Forever]

I went from riding an SV650s to a Z1000 a couple of months after I passed my test.

Sitting on one for a photo doesn't count. :p

[gettin2dizzy]

I reckon Ralph's probably right.

I went from riding an SV650s to a Z1000 a couple of months after I passed my test.
Mods lease remove this post - she hasn't even wheelied it yet. :smt045

[sv-robo]

yeah but yours is a pointy so i can understand that:smt056



:rolleyes:;)

[Smudge]

only four months and how many miles is that, what did you find so bad with the SV that you want to change it already, i also rekon that you should at least wait until the summer the FZ is no where near as light and flickable as the SV

[jans1971]

[quote=SmudgeK3;1352589]only four months and how many miles is that, what did you find so bad with the SV that you want to change it




iv done 1600 miles on it, there is nothing wrong with the sv , i love it, but i get bored quickly, and i want to try something differant from a v twin.

[Biker Biggles]

I prefere the older fazer thou.Every bit as good a bike as the modern one but without the current trademark Yamaha pig uglyness.=;

[Sean_C]

[quote=SmudgeK3;1352589]only four months and how many miles is that, what did you find so bad with the SV that you want to change it




iv done 1600 miles on it, there is nothing wrong with the sv , i love it, but i get bored quickly, and i want to try something differant from a v twin.


Corr, I did 1600 miles within 2 weeks of getting mine, wheres the dedication?! :rolleyes:

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

Do it - the FZ1 is a pussycat. I had one for an hour test ride and it's miles more comfy, smooth and better suspended than the SV. You can ride it around like an old granny in 2nd or 3rd gear and cover anything from 20-100mph. If you open the taps it's a very different bike though, will pull wheelies and blow off most anything on the road. I wanted one after the test ride, even the pre-2007 one that I test rode. They have less nice fuelling than the 2007 ones but to be fair you'd hardly notice, it's a very minor thing and I'd have been happy with it.

Bit salty on the asking price though - you can pick up a mint condition early 2000's R1 with low miles for less than an FZ1 that's a couple of years old. I'll wait for a few more years until they're down in the 3-4000 range.

There's no way that it's harder to handle than the SV - you'd only have an issue if you rode it balls out and due to your experience it doesn't sound like you'll be doing that until you get to know it a bit better.

[jans1971]

[quote=jans1971;1352639]


Corr, I did 1600 miles within 2 weeks of getting mine, wheres the dedication?! :rolleyes:



wow thats so great ill have to give you a blue peter badge now

[sarah]

Sitting on one for a photo doesn't count. :p

Mods lease remove this post - she hasn't even wheelied it yet. :smt045

:rolleyes:

[Beenz]

....the FZ is no where near as light and flickable as the SV

The FZ felt better planted than the SV, I would say just as flickable. The difference in weight was hardly noticeable, possibly because of the more upright sitting position than the SVS (comparable to the naked SV). Just my opinion.

[Alpinestarhero]

COnsidered the 600cc version? Still got 100 hp, still very comfy etc etc, but a tad less power if you are worried about handling all that the thou can offer. Like others say, if you take the thou just be careful about riding it and learn the bike. IMO you would do better to keep the SV through the winter, and learn more about riding big bikes, then go on to something differant.

Matt

[sv-robo]

[quote=SmudgeK3;1352589]


iv done 1600 miles on it, there is nothing wrong with the sv , i love it, but i get bored quickly, and i want to try something differant from a v twin.

would imagine you,d be more bored lying in a hospital bed banged up in traction for 2 months if it goes t*ts up.

its your cash so if you want something with a bit more power then go 4 it,just take it steady,ie dont run before you can walk.:smt045

[ASM-Forever]

:rolleyes:

Took you long enough to reply. :p

[sarah]

Took you long enough to reply. :p

I've had work to do.

[fizzwheel]

I think that if you have some self restraint and can respect how much faster you get yourself into trouble on a bigger bike then I'd go for it.

I personally think that the fuelling issue on these has been over hyped in the press.

Perhaps keep your SV through the winter, clock up some more miles and winter riding experience does really teach the fine art of throttle control which is what your going to need IMHO and then change in the spring.