View Full Version : numpty passed his CBT?
BOY IN WORK, it took him 3 days.
someone comented how wobbly he was,
just found out he has dropped it twice (low speed) in a week
probaly just nerves?
anywho......
he just came to see me saying his bike wont start, (one of those chinese 125 imports)
i ask is it in nuatral
i duuno?
have a look
how?
so i show him
he has flatened the battery, so i say kickstart it
eh? how?
so i show him
still not going(i notice the kill switch is pressed) so i ask him to check it
eh? wheres the kill switch
again i show him.... off he wobbles at 10000 revs
he has not got a clue, how the hell did he pass, & he wants to buy my blade
Wow, how can someone possibly be that bad after 3 days with an instructor?
I'm not sure who it says more about- him on the person who "taught" him.
We had this stuff clear in our minds before we even sat on the bike..
fizzwheel
27-11-07, 10:01 PM
he wants to buy my blade
Oh dear...
CBT for some schools is just a route to get you onto DAS, one lad that was on my first day of DAS plainly couldnt ride and nearly rode into car, he shouldnt have been on the road IMHO
Sid Squid
27-11-07, 10:02 PM
& he wants to buy my blade
Quick! Get it sold pronto, if he's really clueless he'll bite your arm off when you let him have it for a knock down ten grand.
i was abit wobbly at first, but my instrcutors were pretty good, one was abit sternly scary, but he was still tuned-in
i dont see how 3 days with an instructor can teach you nothing, if its the instructor then what did these 3 days consist of without knowing about starting bike, gears etc, and if its the lad i dont see how someone cannot learn one single thing from 3 days
perhaps he was very nervous and the instructor wasn't the most empathetic
you work in a bike place then hovis?
you work in a bike place then hovis?no, a gym
its not just the wobbly thing, hes not the sharpest knife in the draw, but he was just looking at the bike wishing it to start, he did not have a clue as to the petrol being on, choke,nuetral, i dont think he even knew he could kick start it,
he said the shop did not show him
Defender
27-11-07, 10:39 PM
I'm working on a patent pending invention that will solve all newbie wobbly rider problems -
Just looking at converting it for motorcycles
http://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_images/mfg_10/1/full_10stabilizers.jpg
Supervox
27-11-07, 10:54 PM
Quick! Get it sold pronto, if he's really clueless he'll bite your arm off when you let him have it for a knock down ten grand.
And the Darwinian process will take care of the rest !! :thumbsup:
Ratty46
28-11-07, 01:51 AM
he shouldnt be on a bike!
pencil shavings
28-11-07, 09:31 AM
he passed becasue you cant fail, there no test. Its compulory basic TRAINING. so once uve been trained, if your still really bad, oh well!=;
sparkymarky
28-11-07, 10:48 AM
he passed becasue you cant fail, there no test. Its compulory basic TRAINING. so once uve been trained, if your still really bad, oh well!=;
Not strictly true - although there is no test you are supposed to satisfy the trainer that you are competent to be on the road.
When I did my CBT there was a young lad who wasn't quite up to scratch and he was asked to come back on another day. Guess it depends on how thorough the trainers are.....:confused:
pencil shavings
28-11-07, 11:28 AM
Not strictly true - although there is no test you are supposed to satisfy the trainer that you are competent to be on the road.
When I did my CBT there was a young lad who wasn't quite up to scratch and he was asked to come back on another day. Guess it depends on how thorough the trainers are.....:confused:
true, good point!
shonadoll
28-11-07, 11:45 AM
It seems to vary so much, that's the problem. I had to go back ahem three times, but I wasn't ready. My instructors were very thorough- I had to be able to u turn, emergency stop, do my lifesavers correctly, etc. I think it also depends on the school, mine, Ride On in Glasgow was great.
Alpinestarhero
28-11-07, 11:51 AM
How can someone take more than 2 days to pass a CBT? I can understand the first day being a bag-of-nerves affair, and not being allowed out on the road ride, but you should have it by the second day. And how can you not know if the bike is in neutral? leave the clutch out and roll it forward. If it dosnt move (and you havnt got the brake on) its not in neutral!
Hovis, tell this chap he is a pillock and to go away and sort himself out about riding. He has had 3 days for just a CBT.
Matt
gettin2dizzy
28-11-07, 11:54 AM
Sell him your fireblade, get the Darwin awards on the phone...
Ratty46
28-11-07, 12:05 PM
3 days is bit much, i'm more miffed he didnt know sod all about the bike!?
Poor kid will get himself killed in a stupid way. Some people are just not up to it, I think. When I went for the CBT I had mentally prepared myself for the possibility that I wouldn't be able to do it, or wouldn't really like it, and I'd had a car license for 6 years before that. Total novices to the roads must be even more unaware of their ability to operate a vehicle.
All you can do is pass on a few wise words of advice and hope he makes it through his incompetent phase unscathed, assuming there will ever be an end to it.
Ratty46
28-11-07, 12:16 PM
Poor kid will get himself killed in a stupid way. Some people are just not up to it, I think. When I went for the CBT I had mentally prepared myself for the possibility that I wouldn't be able to do it, or wouldn't really like it, and I'd had a car license for 6 years before that. Total novices to the roads must be even more unaware of their ability to operate a vehicle.
All you can do is pass on a few wise words of advice and hope he makes it through his incompetent phase unscathed, assuming there will ever be an end to it.
well said.:smt045:D
And the Darwinian process will take care of the rest !! :thumbsup:
+1 for natural selection.
yorkie_chris
28-11-07, 05:12 PM
Sell him your fireblade, get the Darwin awards on the phone...
Do they give a reward like you've been framed do?
Best get it on camera just in case :p
I got my mum a CBT for mothers days & it took her three days to do & this was on an automatic, bless her :smt056.
The first day they didn't let her out on the road in the afternoon, but to her credit she spent the afternoon on her own going round the training car park practising.
The second day she got out on the road in the afternoon, but failed as the instructor thought she lacked confidence, she was a bit upset but on the 3rd attempt she cracked it. \\:D/
I was so proud & thought good effort to her, for sticking to it & not giving up:thumright:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m241/gazman_07/IMG_0775.jpg?t=1196278098 (http://javascript<b></b>:void(0);)
pencil shavings
28-11-07, 07:55 PM
i find the whole point of a cbt abit pointless, well it was in my case.
I did it on a 50cc 'ped and then went out and got myself a lovly aprilla rs125. hardly comparable!
fortunatly i had ridden off road before but theres nothing to prevent you from doing what i did, even if you have no prior experiance. (17 at the time)
ASM-Forever
28-11-07, 08:26 PM
i find the whole point of a cbt abit pointless, well it was in my case.
I did it on a 50cc 'ped and then went out and got myself a lovly aprilla rs125. hardly comparable!
fortunatly i had ridden off road before but theres nothing to prevent you from doing what i did, even if you have no prior experiance. (17 at the time)
Actually i think you will find there is!
If you took your CBT on an automatic, then you would have only been entitled to ride an automatic. I'm certain there is a section on the certificate, where the instructor indicates manual/automatic.
Of course in theory the RS125 should have also been restricted, so pretty gutless.
Welsh_Wizard
28-11-07, 08:35 PM
In 'Superbike' magazine there is a picture of a woman (in her 50's) who passed her CBT, popped down to the local dealership, hired out a Fazer or something to that effect on a test ride, drove 200yrds down the road, completely wiped it out whilst joining the dual carriageway and subsequently has 50 stitches, numerous pins and several plates for the effort. CBT school SHOULD take some responsibility if I'm honest, or at least the governing body should allow you to 'fail' it and demand further training..
yorkie_chris
28-11-07, 08:37 PM
How the hell did she hire a fazer on CBT?
IMO her fault entirely, but also what a set of numpties at the dealers for not actually checking if she had a license
ASM-Forever
28-11-07, 08:45 PM
How the hell did she hire a fazer on CBT?
IMO her fault entirely, but also what a set of numpties at the dealers for not actually checking if she had a license
+1
In my limited experience of test rides, you normally have to sign a contract indicating you will pay for damages to the bike should you wreck it and also stating that you hold the requisite entitlements to legally ride it.
Also i don't think you can ever really hold the training schools responsible. Sure some are better than others, but its often the case that people behave/concentrate when supervised during the CBT and then ride like a tw@ as soon as they 'pass'.
Welsh_Wizard
28-11-07, 09:01 PM
sorry, she had done the CBT straight through to DAS, straight off the back of the DAS she hired the Fazer.. hang on let me get the mag..
right tell a lie.. passed her CBT and was on day 1 of her DAS. Picked up a shiny new GS500 and wiped it out almost immediatly. You should see her pic in the mag - hell of a scar..
yorkie_chris
28-11-07, 09:05 PM
For this I don't blame the CBT at all, muppets are going to be muppets whatever you do
ASM-Forever
28-11-07, 09:11 PM
sorry, she had done the CBT straight through to DAS, straight off the back of the DAS she hired the Fazer.. hang on let me get the mag..
right tell a lie.. passed her CBT and was on day 1 of her DAS. Picked up a shiny new GS500 and wiped it out almost immediatly. You should see her pic in the mag - hell of a scar..
I have absoloutely no sympathy for her. Ignorance is no excuse/defence. She is either criminally retarded or just plain retarded. :p
pencil shavings
28-11-07, 09:38 PM
Actually i think you will find there is!
If you took your CBT on an automatic, then you would have only been entitled to ride an automatic. I'm certain there is a section on the certificate, where the instructor indicates manual/automatic.
Of course in theory the RS125 should have also been restricted, so pretty gutless.
really? i never knew there was that distinction :confused:
oh well, not really relevant.
and i know it should have been restricted! :smt045
Flamin_Squirrel
28-11-07, 10:11 PM
And the Darwinian process will take care of the rest !! :thumbsup:
Weren't you arguing for compulsory protective clothing in another thread?!
gettin2dizzy
29-11-07, 07:59 AM
Sell him your fireblade, get the Darwin awards on the phone...
Do they give a reward like you've been framed do?
Best get it on camera just in case :p
I don't know if the writer has a withered hand, no. :cyclopsani:
Had a guy in our office block pass his CBT, next day turned up a brand new CBR 125. Watched him wobble into the car park, park it up & then drop it. Going home he couldn't start it, eventually got it started, wobbled, fell off again and ended up underneath it!
OK perhaps it's me but rather than just brand him a numpty I went out to the car park, helped him out & showed him where he was going wrong (after I'd stopped laughing of course).
When the carpark was empty I even showed him how to control the bike at low speed (figure of 8's etc). He's fine now, he just needed confidence & a bit more practice. The CBT is fine but some people just need to get themselves to a private carpark/road after it & get some practice in before they venture out on to the road. But there's absolutely no excuse for going out on a bike & not knowing where all the controls are or how to start the damned thing.
gettin2dizzy
29-11-07, 01:06 PM
Had a guy in our office block pass his CBT, next day turned up a brand new CBR 125. Watched him wobble into the car park, park it up & then drop it. Going home... But there's absolutely no excuse for going out on a bike & not knowing where all the controls are or how to start the damned thing.
Good work :cheers:
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