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hovis
04-12-07, 07:52 PM
Ben Franklin said:
"In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria."

In a number of carefully controlled trials, scientists have demonstrated that if we drink 1 litre of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of Escherichia coil, (E. Coil) - bacteria found in faeces. In other words, we are consuming 1 kilo of poop.

However, we do not run that risk when drinking wine & beer (or tequila, rum, whiskey or other liquor) because alcohol has to go through a purification process of boiling, filtering and/or fermenting.

Remember:
Water = Poop
Alcohol = Health

Therefore, it's better to drink wine and talk stupid, than to drink water and be full of ****!

There is no need to thank me for this valuable information...
I'm doing it as a public service.

rigor
04-12-07, 08:13 PM
Read an interesting book the other day "The History of the World in Six Glasses". Explained how different cultures developed different drinks due to the "dodgyness" of water in those days, and how it affected the way they acted and developed (trade and rituals etc.)

Water = bad
Alchohol = good

neio79
04-12-07, 08:30 PM
how long would it take to die if you drank beer instead of water then??

Ed
04-12-07, 08:57 PM
how long would it take to die if you drank beer instead of water then??

Depends whether it was Fosters. If so, pretty quick:p

Blue_SV650S
04-12-07, 08:58 PM
I think you will find for health reasons:-

Beer = bad

Tea (especially herbal hippy stuff) = good!! :)

tigersaw
04-12-07, 09:36 PM
I only drink water with the poo removed, either by filtering through the dales for 1000 years or a britta for 10 minutes

ooger
04-12-07, 09:58 PM
Depends whether it was Fosters. If so, pretty quick:p

Isn't Fosters just water with extra added poo? :smt045

Sid Squid
04-12-07, 11:32 PM
Depends whether it was Fosters. If so, pretty quick:p
But then you'd probably want to.

In the Words of WC Fields: Water? Never touch the stuff - I understand fish f**k in it.

ThEGr33k
04-12-07, 11:36 PM
Nothing wrong with council pop! I mean Im pretty sure that after you have drunk it for all your life im pretty sure you will have built up an imunity! :cool:

Beer = Bad because it = No ride bike/Ride bike and die... :rolleyes:

phil24_7
05-12-07, 12:17 AM
In the Words of WC Fields: Water? Never touch the stuff - I understand fish f**k in it.

LMAO

Nothing wrong with council pop! I mean Im pretty sure that after you have drunk it for all your life im pretty sure you will have built up an imunity! :cool:

Beer = Bad because it = No ride bike/Ride bike and die... :rolleyes:

Don't forget the hangovers that last longer the older you get!

I'm fine with drinking poo after all I like breathing in my own farts!!

drefraser
05-12-07, 10:19 AM
The Swedish Navy didn't carry water on their ships because it would go off (no Britta filters then), they just had barrels of beer. I'm not aware of any great sea battles the Swedes have won in the last thousand years but I think they wouldn't have had to work to hard on recruiting either.

Alpinestarhero
05-12-07, 10:25 AM
Strange, If i drink a litre of booze i feel like crap. If i drink a litre of water, I feel refreshed.

I'll stick with water, ta

Matt

drefraser
05-12-07, 11:02 AM
Strange, If i drink a litre of booze i feel like crap. If i drink a litre of water, I feel refreshed.

I'll stick with water, ta

Matt

I'd maybe try a few shots of spirits in an evening rather than the full litre.
HTH.

JessicaRabbit
05-12-07, 11:11 AM
In the Words of WC Fields: Water? Never touch the stuff - I understand fish f**k in it.

You beat me to posting that quote!! :D

timwilky
05-12-07, 12:26 PM
When I lived on sumatra, I would clean my teeth with beer. Nice and cold straight from the fridge. Even though we had our own filtration plant for the camp, the local water still could not be trusted

Spiderman
05-12-07, 01:46 PM
Water also has a memory. Honest. go look it up if you dont believe me.

i watched a documentary on it a few years ago and it freaked me out :shock:

phil24_7
05-12-07, 02:14 PM
Water also has a memory. Honest. go look it up if you dont believe me.

i watched a documentary on it a few years ago and it freaked me out :shock:

So does this mean it would remember that you spat it down the sink and treat you accordingly?!?

Alpinestarhero
05-12-07, 02:54 PM
Water also has a memory. Honest. go look it up if you dont believe me.

i watched a documentary on it a few years ago and it freaked me out :shock:

I'm pretty sure thats bull. If i disolve various salts in water, then distil it (a number of times to completly deionise it) then how can it remember? everything has been taken out, the water molecules jumbled about (since distillation involves passing through the gas phase). Its all random! I'm sure thermodynamics and statistical thermodynamics has something to say about this. I just fail to beleive it.

Matt

wyrdness
05-12-07, 04:15 PM
I'm pretty sure thats bull. If i disolve various salts in water, then distil it (a number of times to completly deionise it) then how can it remember? everything has been taken out, the water molecules jumbled about (since distillation involves passing through the gas phase). Its all random! I'm sure thermodynamics and statistical thermodynamics has something to say about this. I just fail to beleive it.


Take a look at the results of an experiment into this:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3817.html

Another interesting article on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory

So is it experimental error or not?

Mr Toad
05-12-07, 04:45 PM
I firmly believe we should ban dihydrogen monoxide immediately
It is a colourless, tasteless, odourless chemical, that is used in all sorts of dangerous industries. In its gaseous form it has been involved in many incidents of burning, in liquid form has caused the death of millions by drowning, and in solid form causes tissue damage or worse amongst other effects.

Even the Green Party support a ban on it :smt103






You may however recognise it by its more common name - H2O


:grin:

drefraser
05-12-07, 04:56 PM
I'm pretty sure thats bull. If i disolve various salts in water, then distil it (a number of times to completly deionise it) then how can it remember? everything has been taken out, the water molecules jumbled about (since distillation involves passing through the gas phase). Its all random! I'm sure thermodynamics and statistical thermodynamics has something to say about this. I just fail to beleive it.

Matt

It's a line of c**p put forward by believers in homoeopathy when it was proved to them that in the dilutions they use for "treatment" there are actually no molecules of active ingredient remaining.

Draper
05-12-07, 07:15 PM
As much as beer is good, i think we shouldn't rule out water all together

For a start beer is mostly water

and how long would it take to die? i'm not sure, isn't it something daft like a few days without water and you will start to keel over? if so then perhaps beer could make it faster as it dehydrates you?

oh and a few ecoli wont hurt anyone, 1kilo in a year may sound fairly large, but considering we have billions upon billions in our gut at this in one year aint so bad. Microbes get a bad name (with good reason) but they are handy little fellows at times

(spent many hours doing microbiology over the last few weeks)

Alpinestarhero
05-12-07, 07:17 PM
It's a line of c**p put forward by believers in homoeopathy when it was proved to them that in the dilutions they use for "treatment" there are actually no molecules of active ingredient remaining.

Yea, I read this on wikipedia. Im sure there is something there, but in such trace amounts that it flushes through the body. You'd need some serious analytical kit to detect anything, thats for sure.

Stupid pseudo-science numpties

Matt

drefraser
05-12-07, 07:25 PM
and how long would it take to die? i'm not sure, isn't it something daft like a few days without water and you will start to keel over? if so then perhaps beer could make it faster as it dehydrates you?


Six years is my record. Ah, those happy university days :D

Draper
05-12-07, 11:25 PM
haha that is what i have been participating in too, however the wells dried up a little bit, the first month was ridiculous though, almost daily visits to the offie for a crate of oranjebooms finest! now it's getting to end of term, everyone is realising they have left all the work till the last week, and dont have enough beer time... i am one of these people :(

Sean_C
06-12-07, 12:41 AM
Water is what I force my mates to drink when they've had too much booze and are getting closely acquainted with the bottom of a toilet :)

I'm lucky (or young) enough not to get hangovers..

I used to drink 2 litres of water a day, and as far as I could tell, it just meant I was having a leak every 5 minutes. Feel no worse for drinking when I'm thirsty instead.

Draper
06-12-07, 12:46 AM
depends, drinking 2 litres is maybe abit excessive, but then if you frequent the gym or whatever you maywell want lots of water

yes you can die of excessive water drinking, but i'd rather have too much than too little. Good for burning off fat aswell, keep your liver and everything nice and hydrated. just means your body doesnt have to work hard to utilise the little water it has in the body

i'm not sure whether this is a taught guide in medicine, but if its yellow drink more, if its clear you're doing alright... and if its red, well... clinic

Draper
06-12-07, 12:48 AM
i use to think that about hangovers, never used to get anything, i could have 2 hours sleep after beer, dbvbs, and god knows what else

i get em now and again now, and i'm only 18. i blame it on the bitter and wine and god knows what other combinations

Law
06-12-07, 11:57 AM
I'd much rather sit down with a nice a cup of tea.

Sean_C
06-12-07, 12:25 PM
I'd much rather sit down with a nice a cup of tea.


The perfect cuppa is twice as big as a normal one ;)

Two separate cups of tea don't taste the same, so one big one is the way forwards..


Hello, my name is Sean, and I'm a tea-a-holic. :mrgreen:

Spiderman
06-12-07, 02:19 PM
It's a line of c**p put forward by believers in homoeopathy when it was proved to them that in the dilutions they use for "treatment" there are actually no molecules of active ingredient remaining.

Yea, I read this on wikipedia. Im sure there is something there, but in such trace amounts that it flushes through the body. You'd need some serious analytical kit to detect anything, thats for sure.

Stupid pseudo-science numpties

Matt

I wish i could remember the name of the documentary or even who made it cos it was really fascinating and had nothing at all to do with Homeopathy or any of those things.

you guys know way more about the ins and outs of this but i do remember them diluting something in water till it had completely gone, then taking a drip of that solution and again watering it down and then again a good few times.
Then they did something* and tested the water and it showed that you could find out what had been in the original water. Somehow.

It was interesting to watch tho.




*technical jiggery pokery involving big words and pipettes is about all i rememebr now.

gettin2dizzy
06-12-07, 02:35 PM
There's never been any positive results other than the ones with a questionable technique. Every double blind test has proven negative and a lot of the research is made by people with a certain leaning already ;) The case you're talking about had some weird step in the process that was additional and that could be seen as the cause of the fluctuated result