Lawyers...

[gettin2dizzy]

...have got to make you laugh. They'll try anything!:rolleyes:



Police raided Pickton's farm in 2002 and found the dismembered remains and personal belongings of the women Pickton was accused of picking up from the streets of Vancouver.
The pig farmer denied killing any of the women, but prosecutors presented thousands of pieces of forensic evidence and showed video of him admitting to police that he was hoping to kill 50 women
Parts of two of the women's bodies were found in five-gallon buckets in Pickton's freezer, parts of the others were discovered in a dustbin, a pig pen, and buried in manure on the farm.
The 10-month trial heard from almost 130 witnesses, including Lynn Ellingson, who said she once walked in on the pig farmer, who was covered with blood, as Ms Papin's body hung from a chain in the farm's slaughterhouse. Our correspondent reports that the pig farmer's lawyers argued that none of the evidence proved that he himself had murdered the women.

[Welsh_Wizard]

maybe it was the pigs ? Cheeky chappies they are if they haven't been fed...

[tomjones2]

How was this a 10 month trial?

[gettin2dizzy]

And 130 witnesses?! hehe. Bonkers.

[Ed]

...and from what you have posted, there is no direct evidence. Strong circumstantial, yes.

Don't forget it's a lawyer's job to review evidence critically, highlight irrelevant, prejudicial and hearsay evidence and get it kicked out, no matter what the lawyer's personal feelings - and to stand up for people where others have already condemned and judged them.

Not that that happens on here of course;)

[gettin2dizzy]

...and from what you have posted, there is no direct evidence. Strong circumstantial, yes.

Don't forget it's a lawyer's job to review evidence critically, highlight irrelevant, prejudicial and hearsay evidence and get it kicked out, no matter what the lawyer's personal feelings - and to stand up for people where others have already condemned and judged them.

Not that that happens on here of course;)
hehe. A strangely compelling argument there Ed. You should try law ;)

[tomjones2]

He will proably claim amnesia next, seems to be the going thing at the mo.

This is one of those cases where it easy to pick holes in the justice system that is working as it should, provide a fair hearing etc etc. Although I would say that anyone one who walked in on someone covered in blood with a body hanging from the rafters is a little more than cicumstantial. I mean there is a wrong place and a wrong time but that would really take some explaining.

[Ed]

He will proably claim amnesia next, seems to be the going thing at the mo.

This is one of those cases where it easy to pick holes in the justice system that is working as it should, provide a fair hearing etc etc. Although I would say that anyone one who walked in on someone covered in blood with a body hanging from the rafters is a little more than cicumstantial. I mean there is a wrong place and a wrong time but that would really take some explaining.

Oh, agreed, agreed. But there's always something you can say, no matter how minor, and if that introduces a note of doubt into the jury's mind then bingo. Which is why this bloke was convicted of 2nd degree murder, not 1st degree - the prosecution couldn't prove premeditation.

[gettin2dizzy]

Oh, agreed, agreed. But there's always something you can say, no matter how minor, and if that introduces a note of doubt into the jury's mind then bingo. Which is why this bloke was convicted of 2nd degree murder, not 1st degree - the prosecution couldn't prove premeditation.
It's funny isn't it. I don't understand why he is being prosecuted for 26 murders that weren't premeditated. One maybe, but 26?! What an odd case.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44266000/jpg/_44266262_pickton_body_ap.jpg
He doesn't even look creepy ;)

[tomjones2]

I havent actaully read the case so I shouldnt really be comenting but with 26 murders to he name he is never going to see freedom again I assume?

[gettin2dizzy]

I havent actaully read the case so I shouldnt really be comenting but with 26 murders to he name he is never going to see freedom again I assume?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7136095.stm

I doubt it. It's always difficult to give these nutters a fair trial. I think it's quite easy to find them guilty on the basis of them being bonkers - we've got a fair history of it over here.

[Ed]

I doubt it. It's always difficult to give these nutters a fair trial. I think it's quite easy to find them guilty on the basis of them being bonkers - we've got a fair history of it over here.

:rolleyes:

Diz - I know you do this deliberately:king:

[gettin2dizzy]

:rolleyes:

Diz - I know you do this deliberately:king:
;)


It read wrong I was thinking of Kiszko. Not Britains finest hour that one.

[Ed]

;)


It read wrong I was thinking of Kiszko. Not Britains finest hour that one.

Can't remember which one he was - the bloke wrongly convicted of a child murder?

[gettin2dizzy]

Can't remember which one he was - the bloke wrongly convicted of a child murder?
Yeah, a weird guy who never spoke to anyone but his mother, arrested for being a bit bizarre; the police played on this massively and forced him in to confessing to the rape and murder he didn't commit. They made no effort to give him a fair trial and he wasn't even told anyone could be present in the interviews.
He was eventually found innocent 17 years later after numerous beatings and psychiatric torment but it had all ready killed what little there was left of a man; I think it was only a year or so after release that he died. Good to see the police finally apologised the other day....finally, it's a shame the three teenage girls who set him up couldn't find it within themselves to apologise.

(it's loosely the basis of the meatsafe murderer- for any Monkey Dust fans)

[Pedrosa]

There is a strong rumour circulating in Vancouver that rather than have a disgusting individual like the accused maul them, the women simply threw themselves at the mercy of the ravenous pigs.

A theory diifficult to dissprove as things stand.;)

From CNN web site.....

Last week, Judge James Williams reviewed the transcript of a videotape in which Pickton is heard telling an undercover police officer that he had planned to kill one more woman before stopping at 50, taking a break and then killing another 25 women.
"I was going to do one more; make it an even 50," Pickton told the officer, who had been planted in the accused killer's cell and gained his trust.

[Pedrosa]

Pickton is to stand in a second trial faced with a further 20 counts od murder.

Maybe a little sympathy to the accused is due as he appears to be a man of The Bible and took his lead from passages such as the following....

Ephesians 5:5.
You can be sure that no immoral, impure or greedy person will in-herit the kingdom of God .... Don't be fooled by whose who try to excuse these sins, for the terrible anger of God comes upon all those who disobey him.

And from The Jerusalem Bible...a variation on the same theme.

Ephesians 5:5

"For you can be quite certain that nobody who actually indulges in fornication or impurity or promiscuity - which is worshiping a false god - can inherit anything of the kingdom of God.

[gettin2dizzy]

Maybe a little sympathy to the accused is due as he appears to be a man of The Bible

yeah, believing in that old story eh? ;)

I told you he was a fruit loop!