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As the Taffia people seems to be growing I was wondering what people thought about have 2 Taffia meets per month. How about having one Taffia meet per month in Cardiff and one elsewhere (TA or The Ferry)? I also thought that it might be worth reviewing what day of the week to hold the meet as some people can't make Thursdays.
i thought about this, and i think it will split the group in 2 as proved last night
dunno?
we did not have this problem before you changed it to the warf just for the "1 night"
dunno?
we did not have this problem before you changed it to the warf just for the "1 night"
I can't help it if other people would rather go to the wharf than the TA.
I don't see the problem with having 2 meets a month. I'm sure some people would go to both, I know I would.
dunno?
we did not have this problem before you changed it to the warf just for the "1 night"
I can't help it if other people would rather go to the wharf than the TA.
I don't see the problem with having 2 meets a month. I'm sure some people would go to both, I know I would.
Now now kids, no fighting;)
Zombie Jesus
14-12-07, 03:51 PM
:thumbsup: I'm up for this, let us know if there are any other pubs worth considering.
drefraser
14-12-07, 07:01 PM
:thumbsup: I'm up for this, let us know if there are any other pubs worth considering.
+1 if work, house renovation and gale force winds would leave a bit of time free
fizzwheel
14-12-07, 11:02 PM
I don't see the problem with having 2 meets a month. I'm sure some people would go to both, I know I would.
As an outsider, neither do I. Either people will go to both or they'll go to that one that is closest to them. Or you might get a few more newbies join your meets because they happen more often or they are more local to where the pub is.
Why not try it if it doesnt work you can always revert back to how things are now.
squirrel_hunter
15-12-07, 01:22 AM
I'm with Fizz on this one. Give it a try.
I have to say for me as its a 140 mile round trip I will only be an occasional visitor, but will try and be more regular once the better weather kick in. Its the same reason, as well as work and other commitments that I've been a little lax on the Bristol MoFo meets.
Also at some point in the new year I'd like to get us back doing evening rides. We used to meet at the Roo and then hit Abber while there was still sun. Just a suggestion.
Also at some point in the new year I'd like to get us back doing evening rides. We used to meet at the Roo and then hit Abber while there was still sun. Just a suggestion.
Fish Hill?
Fish Hill?
Has your fish been un well for long ????????? :p:p:p
Has your fish been un well for long ????????? :p:p:p
:smt082
... just a tad off colour :fish:
How about meeting on the 2nd Thursday of every month at The Tredegar Arms, Newport (The Ferry, nr Chepstow in the summer)?
And at The Wharf, Cardiff (or another Cardiff pub) on 4th ???day of the month?
I'l do a poll for the day of the week for the Cardiff meet.
well, i started the taffia ball rolling over a year ago now.......your welcome
i remember the first ever meeting just me & tel 2ft of snow & not a bike in sight, anywho........... 2007 went pretty well at the TA (i never saw the point of the ferry, but nevermind), thanks to mogs for taking over from me organising the meets,
now 2008 has come it looks like sarah is trying to take over the leadership (which is fine by me)
this time last year a few differant areas were mentioned at the time the TA seemed to fit the needs for everyone. & seemed good if the mofos were coming. & we could go for a ride from there, which i think we should try to do more of this summer.
i dont mind the 2 vennues, i do think you might get a warf group & a TA group,
how about a totaly new vennue which would suit everyone (if this is possible)
:geek:
Welsh_Wizard
15-12-07, 06:17 PM
personally i don't care where it's held, and to be fair, what day it is on either.
lets try and all be happy families tho' 'cos the tension could be cut with a knife at instances on Thurs which was abit much in fairness ;)
tinpants
16-12-07, 12:15 AM
Time for a bit of fence sitting.
Although I can see the possible need for an extra meet or two I can't help but think that some of us may be missing the point. The idea of having the Taffia meets was to have a central point that wasn't too far for anyone to get to and that was within a decent distance of some good biking roads. Both the TA and The Ferry offered this. I'm not too sure about the wharf as I've not been there but its a bit too far for me, at this time of year at least. I'll probably think differently in the spring / summer.
Hovis also raised the issue of the meeting being at the wharf "just for this month". That was what I also thought. So, are the meets going to revert back to the TA? Or stay in Cardiff? Or go somewhere else that meets with the original set of criteria?
Answers on a postcard please.
Hovis also raised the issue of the meeting being at the wharf "just for this month". That was what I also thought. So, are the meets going to revert back to the TA? Or stay in Cardiff? Or go somewhere else that meets with the original set of criteria?
Point taken, which is why I thought sticking to the original Taffia venues (TA and The Ferry) and day (2nd Thurs of the month) and having a Cardiff meet in addition to the original Taffia meet wouldn't upset anyone.
well, i started the taffia ball rolling over a year ago now.......your welcome
i remember the first ever meeting just me & tel 2ft of snow & not a bike in sight....
"Ah those were the days" :smt004
My 2p worth,
I quite like the idea of the wharf (or similar venue) for winter meets and use the TA or Ferry for warmer weather (meet or ride out)
Saying that i'm easy going with any plans that envolve more than 1 meet a month as it gives more choice and availability (missed last 2 meets because of work :-( )
"Ah those were the days" :smt004
My 2p worth,
I quite like the idea of the wharf (or similar venue) for winter meets and use the TA or Ferry for warmer weather (meet or ride out)
Saying that i'm easy going with any plans that envolve more than 1 meet a month as it gives more choice and availability (missed last 2 meets because of work :-( )
Are there no SV's west of Cardiff?
I'd llike to meet up with you guys but somewhere west of Newport would be nice.. I detest the M4, especially now with the roadworks.
**** me wot you doing here toolie:smt058
**** me wot you doing here toolie:smt058
I live here Hovidav. :smt058 an you are an ex SV :compcrash: Blade Runner and live north of Cardiff!!
you not go out today?
you have not met anyone off here yet have you?
you not go out today?
you have not met anyone off here yet have you?
Today?? Too bleedin cold!! I value my wizened old nuts too much..
Not met anybody anywhere.. :( I'm Billy.....
After 5000 miles on this rear PR2 I still not squared it!! Which is nice..;) So sod the M4 :thumbsup:
Zombie Jesus
16-12-07, 07:32 PM
No harm in having more than 2 meets per month provided than more than 1 person are willing to turn up of course. The wharf has been closer on average to get to for the people who have shown up over the last couple of meets so not sure if there is a problem there or not. Also don't see much point for planning for the summer at the moment, chances are it will still be too cold/dark in february to start having evening rides. I don't mind location or meetup times being put up to poll, however this sort of stuff should be really be decided by the people who regularly turn up.
fizzwheel
16-12-07, 08:00 PM
Why don't you split it.
Have a social meet that doesnt involve riding and then a ride somewhere and then back again more rideout orientated meet.
IMHO no reason why you couldnt find room in the calender for those and then you alternate it i.e.
Week 1 - Social
Week 2 - Rideout
Week 3 - Social
Week 4 - Rideout
That way it caters for everybodies needs ? Just a thought ?
gettin2dizzy
17-12-07, 09:15 AM
There seems to be a majority of Cardiff based Taffia members now, not having one just seems unnecessarly negative; it does no harm.
Hovis can be credited with starting the group that soon became the Taffia, I only waded in after the procrastination on venue and date became intolerable, I selected the venue on the following criteria (in order)
Close to the centroid of the majority of those likely to attend.
Car Park
Good fast access
Food available
Very close to good biking road for evening rides.
At the time the number of active members living in S. Wales could be counted on one hand. I chose the Thursday so that it coincided with the Mofo's meet, if they chose to join us it would not affect their schedule and they use our playground as much as we do, Once a month for the similar reasons.
Now that there is a greater number of active members, there is a case for re-evaluating the venue, and the dates.
The believe that the criteria listed above are still just as relevent, although I think that the criteria of "It's 200 yds from my home" that seems to have replaced the centroid, should not continue.
I am in agreement with Hovis that the selection of too many venues and dates may fragment what is a small group and form cliques that are by their very nature not welcoming of new members.
I also suggest that we carry out this type of evaluation only once a year, post up the dates and venue for the coming year, and stick to it.
Welsh_Wizard
17-12-07, 01:09 PM
Can I suggest that you use the word 'centroid' alot more. What a gorgeous word.
(From Wiki.)In geometry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometry), the centroid or barycenter of an object X in n-dimensional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension) space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_%28mathematics%29) is the intersection of all hyperplanes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperplane) that divide X into two parts of equal moment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_%28physics%29) about the hyperplane. Informally, it is the "average (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average)" of all points of X.
The geometric centroid of a physical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics) object coincides with its center of mass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_of_mass) if the object has uniform density (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density), or if the object's shape and density have a symmetry which fully determines the centroid. These conditions are sufficient but not necessary.
The centroid of a finite set of points can be computed as the arithmetic mean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arithmetic_mean) of each coordinate of the points.
In geography, the centroid of a region of the Earth's surface is known as its geographical centre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_centre)
I think I prefer barycentre myself!! [-o<
Where are all the S Wales members located anyway?
I live in Porthcawl, Hovis in Caerphilly.. - where are the others?
Welsh_Wizard
17-12-07, 01:47 PM
me is in central cardiff...
Can I suggest that you use the word 'centroid' alot more. What a gorgeous word.
It's a good one, but over use would spoil it.
I live in Caerphilly Town.
me is in central cardiff...
+1 (but only part-time) and I work in Newport (near junction 28 ).
so whats the plan?
it seems there is most peeps from caerphilly, cardiff, newport..... anywhere else?
i would like to avoid cardiff city
so whats the plan?
it seems there is most peeps from caerphilly, cardiff, newport..... anywhere else?
i would like to avoid cardiff city
How about you organise a non-Cardiff meet and I organise a Cardiff meet. That way everyone's happy :D
How about you organise a non-Cardiff meet and I organise a Cardiff meet. That way everyone's happy :D
i think the 2 seperate meets is a bad idea, as i have said, it will just split us into 2 groups, cant we just find somwhere that suits everyone?
drefraser
17-12-07, 05:18 PM
I live in Cardiff and work in darkest valleydom.
If I'm honest I'd be happy to meet anywhere to go for a spin on the bike (if it's light and above freezing - fussy I know) but for beers closer to home is handier for obvious reasons.:smt030
i think the 2 seperate meets is a bad idea, as i have said, it will just split us into 2 groups, cant we just find somwhere that suits everyone?
Don't you think that it would be nice to have more than 1 meet per month?
Don't you think that it would be nice to have more than 1 meet per month?
yes, but i think we should find 1 pub that will suit everyone
We could do as Fizz suggested and alternate 'social meets' and 'going for a ride meets'.
Zombie Jesus
17-12-07, 05:41 PM
The wharf is only half a mile further than the TA from caerphilly
i think the 2 seperate meets is a bad idea, as i have said, it will just split us into 2 groups, cant we just find somwhere that suits everyone?
Maybe we should ask other groups that meet at more than one venue about their exeriences...
The wharf is only half a mile further than the TA from caerphilly
its not the distance, its the traffic & speed cameras, and the hassel of going into cardiff
Zombie Jesus
17-12-07, 06:50 PM
Most of the traffic is headed out of cardiff at rush hour due to commuters from the vale, valleys and the east so it is always going to be someone's issue.
I think that the criteria of "It's 200 yds from my home" that seems to have replaced the centroid, should not continue. i agree,
I am in agreement with Hovis that the selection of too many venues and dates may fragment what is a small group and form cliques that are by their very nature not welcoming of new members.
the taffia could be quite big, as we have had over 10 at some meets, but
i think if we have 2 vennues it will split us into to smaller groups
Well, with the roadworks on the M4, and that crap road itself I wouldn't venture east of Cardiff for a social meet. So I guess I will remain a Taffia Billy. Dunno who's loss it is really.. ;)
Don't you think that it would be nice to have more than 1 meet per month?
Not when we haven't been introduced formally!! ;)
I only waded in after the procrastination on venue and date became intolerable, I selected the venue on the following criteria (in order)
Mogs, it looks like your help and guidence is once again needed here. Even a poll hasn't sorted it out. As I'm further West (EDIT, West England so should have said East :) ), If I can make the odd meet I will so am ambivilant on the venue but this is really a Taffia do so maybe should focus on that.
Mogs, it looks like your help and guidence is once again needed here. Even a poll hasn't sorted it out. As I'm further West, If I can make the odd meet I will so am ambivilant on the venue but this is really a Taffia do so maybe should focus on that.
Wilts is to the West of the Taff? I don't think so!!
You must be English.. lol!!
Zombie Jesus
18-12-07, 12:25 AM
I've voted and had my say so there is nothing more for me to add. If anyone wants me to work out the centroid send me a pm and i'll convert latitude/longitude from google to 2d coords and take an average to work it out ;).
drefraser
18-12-07, 08:45 AM
This is starting to look like we can't organise a p*ss up in, well, South Wales.:smt014
I've voted and had my say so there is nothing more for me to add. If anyone wants me to work out the centroid send me a pm and i'll convert latitude/longitude from google to 2d coords and take an average to work it out ;).
good idea. do you want coords or postcode?
Well, with the roadworks on the M4, and that crap road itself I wouldn't venture east of Cardiff for a social meet. So I guess I will remain a Taffia Billy. Dunno who's loss it is really.. ;)
where would be good for you. is it a hassle for you to get to cardiff?
This is starting to look like we can't organise a p*ss up in, well, South Wales.:smt014
:rolleyes:
gettin2dizzy
18-12-07, 11:47 AM
I'm in Cardiff too. It's an easy city to drive around, the wharf is linked by main roads too, has food and has a huuuge bike parking bit. I think there's one 50mph camera - but it doesn't exactly move anywhere.
Zombie Jesus
18-12-07, 01:18 PM
I was joking about calculating the centroid so nevermind ;):-#
I'm in Cardiff too. It's an easy city to drive around, the wharf is linked by main roads too, has food and has a huuuge bike parking bit. I think there's one 50mph camera - but it doesn't exactly move anywhere.
On the most sensible route for me and Hovis to get to and from the Wharf there are 6 fixed speed cameras.
Nantgarw Hill (40mph), Whitchurch Golf Club (30), St Josephs (30), Nazareth House (30), Blackweir (30) and the College of Music and Drama (30) , and the occasional mobile trap at Taffs Well (50). Not to mention the cameras at traffic lights.
I was joking about calculating the centroid so nevermind ;):-#
You can't joke about these sort of things, get the slide rule out.
The Barons Court has been set for nearly a year that's still on
http://forums.sv650.org/showpost.php?p=1316798&postcount=1
Is the Wharf the big building alongside Atlantic wharf?. I could get there by going along the A48 to CulverH X and then turning down the link road towards Cardiff Bay.
Is the Wharf the big building alongside Atlantic wharf?. I could get there by going along the A48 to CulverH X and then turning down the link road towards Cardiff Bay.
Yup, that's the one. That bit of the A48's alright isn't it?
Yes (see map (http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=319250.600932856&Y=175500.765813196&width=700&height=400&gride=319137.600932856&gridn=175551.765813196&srec=0&coordsys=gb&db=GB&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinfosel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&keepicon=true&zm=0&scale=5000&out.x=7&out.y=7))
I know of 3 fixed cams between my house and CHX Mogs suggesting Baron's Court at Cogan? Even better from my perspective(26m) but not so good for the eastward guys.
I should say that I am not really one for socials where I can't have a sup.. :-# So there is no need to figure me into any calculation.
I was joking about calculating the centroid so nevermind ;):-#
i thought that was the best idea
thefallenangel
18-12-07, 04:35 PM
Well it's gonna be a bugger if your doing this on cameras. On the way to the wharf for me there's zero and it's a nice place but it's going to be a case of no one is gonna win this. However i do believe the cardiff guys have no speed cameras to get to the TA too.
it's going to be a case of no one is gonna win this. .
looks like the cardiff few have chose the warf just cos its within walking distance, and are not willing to compromise.
Why not have 2 venues like lots of the other regional groups? That's how they compromise.
thefallenangel
18-12-07, 05:03 PM
because you can't be bothered to drive 10 miles?
Don't me to be a git but that's how it sounds. Different ball game if you were comparing Tenby to Swindon as 2 different groups.
because you can't be bothered to drive 10 miles?
Don't me to be a git but that's how it sounds. Different ball game if you were comparing Tenby to Swindon as 2 different groups.
that's not true at all. i've been to plenty of bristol meets and to meets at the ferry which are all significantly further than 10 miles. i have also given people lifts to these meets.
the ta is just down the road from my work so is ultra convenient for me. it's not a 10 mile drive, more like 2.
thefallenangel
18-12-07, 05:17 PM
that's not true at all. i've been to plenty of bristol meets and to meets at the ferry which are all significantly further than 10 miles. i have also given people lifts to these meets.
the ta is just down the road from my work so is ultra convenient for me. it's not a 10 mile drive, more like 2.
wasn't on about the mofos meet i meant the fact you seem set on the wharf being the mecca.
wasn't on about the mofos meet i meant the fact you seem set on the wharf being the mecca.
the ferry was a taffia meet.
as far as pubs in cardiff go the wharf seems to tick a fair few boxes. i have asked for other suggestions for suitable cardiff pubs but no-one has made any.
why cardiff though?
it seems the people making the most noise for cardiff, either dont have a bike or have not been to a meet other than the warf
why cardiff though?
it seems the people making the most noise for cardiff, either dont have a bike or have not been to a meet other than the warf
it's the capital of wales
it's the capital of wales
:confused:
london is the capital of england, but all the engish groups dont meet in london?
I've never been to a meet simply because I dont like riding up the M4 and the TA is 35 miles from me, 30 of those on the M4. Hardly walking distance ;)
:confused:
london is the capital of england, but all the engish groups dont meet in london?
:smt046 I hope this isn't going to develop into a 'handbags at dawn' situation for the 'wesh' .. :smt014
:confused:
london is the capital of england, but all the engish groups dont meet in london?
but there is a meet in london. i'm not suggesting all welsh meets should be in cardiff am i?
tinpants
18-12-07, 06:35 PM
The meeting place should be central for ALL those who are "members" of the Taffia. I don't live anywhere near Cardiff and in fact its a 90 mile round trip. If I have to go that distance for a meet then I don't see why others can't. Using the premise that "I can have a beer or two" isn't enough justification to be selfish and expect everyone else to come and have a meet within walking distance of your front door.
I go to the Mofo meets quite a bit, but as its over the bridge I class the Taffia as my local meet. I have no problem going to the TA or other places around Newport or Usk but Cardiff is too far, for me anyway. All I'm asking for is a bit of fairness.
My £0.02.
I'm getting the feeling that some people are missing the point here.
I suggested a Cardiff meet as a ADDITIONAL meet to the TA/Ferry not instead of. I am not trying to stop people from meeting at the TA/Ferry.
Zombie Jesus
18-12-07, 06:56 PM
OK since there were requests, I've taken approximate locations of all attendees (that I can remember) to taffia meets over the last 2-3 months and took the average based on the inclusion and absence of the bristol people.
taffia:
name location latitude longitude
ZJ splott 51.482839 -3.150218
sarah bay 51.470183 -3.165348
g2dizzy city centre 51.482950 -3.172880
welsh wizard city centre 51.482950 -3.172880
gareth aka vb city centre 51.482950 -3.172880
hovis abertridwr 51.595950 -3.269610
moggs caerphilly 51.578740 -3.218110
fallen angel cymbran 51.651140 -3.025620
tel barry 51.405880 -3.265570
Mofos:
xan, vix, mac bristol 3x 51.450030 -2.584820
centroid 51.514842 -3.179235
centroid (with mofos) 51.498639 -3.030631
Nearest pubs:
3 arches: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=pubs&near=51.514842+-3.179235&ie=UTF8&ll=51.516434,-3.17771&spn=0.015142,0.034418&t=h&z=15&om=1
6 bells: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=pubs&near=51.498639+-3.030631&ie=UTF8&ll=51.508315,-3.046989&spn=0.060579,0.137672&t=h&z=13&om=1
OK since there were requests, I've taken approximate locations of all attendees (that I can remember) to taffia meets over the last 2-3 months and took the average based on the inclusion and absence of the bristol people.
taffia:
name location latitude longitude
ZJ splott 51.482839 -3.150218
sarah bay 51.470183 -3.165348
g2dizzy city centre 51.482950 -3.172880
welsh wizard city centre 51.482950 -3.172880
gareth aka vb city centre 51.482950 -3.172880
hovis abertridwr 51.595950 -3.269610
moggs caerphilly 51.578740 -3.218110
fallen angel cymbran 51.651140 -3.025620
tel barry 51.405880 -3.265570
Mofos:
xan, vix, mac bristol 3x 51.450030 -2.584820
centroid 51.514842 -3.179235
centroid (with mofos) 51.498639 -3.030631
Nearest pubs:
3 arches: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=pubs&near=51.514842+-3.179235&ie=UTF8&ll=51.516434,-3.17771&spn=0.015142,0.034418&t=h&z=15&om=1
6 bells: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=l&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=pubs&near=51.498639+-3.030631&ie=UTF8&ll=51.508315,-3.046989&spn=0.060579,0.137672&t=h&z=13&om=1
Good work :cool:
why cardiff though?
i just thought of another good reason for cardiff: dr who and torchwood are both filmed there.
tinpants
18-12-07, 08:25 PM
i just thought of another good reason for cardiff: dr who and torchwood are both filmed there.
And the biggest reason why not?
ITS NOT BLOODY CENTRAL FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!
And the biggest reason why not?
ITS NOT BLOODY CENTRAL FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!
just go to the meets at the TA and Ferry then
tinpants
18-12-07, 08:40 PM
just go to the meets at the TA and Ferry then
Oh. Ok then.
tinpants
18-12-07, 08:54 PM
You know, when this thread started off I felt it was going to be a positive thread debating the whys and wherefores of having a second meet during the month as opposed to just having one meet. It has degenerated, IMO into a mish-mash of comments (I know, by me as well) hinting at, but not quite slagging each other off.
My proposal is this. On the second Thursday of each month the meet will be at the TA. During summer months this can be changed to The Old Ferry or another venue if people wish. On the fourth Thursday of the month the meet will be somewhere else, ie The Wharf, or another venue should one be found that people want to try out. One condition with this, a change of venue must be polled or at least talked about within the thread.
As the TA / Old Ferry was the venue(s) of choice last year, then they are not moveable or debatable this year. Next years non-movable venue(s) will be the one voted the best this year, and so on.
I think this is possibly the best compromise but if anyone has a better idea then stop moaning and post it up.
You know, when this thread started off I felt it was going to be a positive thread debating the whys and wherefores of having a second meet during the month as opposed to just having one meet. It has degenerated, IMO into a mish-mash of comments (I know, by me as well) hinting at, but not quite slagging each other off.
My proposal is this. On the second Thursday of each month the meet will be at the TA. During summer months this can be changed to The Old Ferry or another venue if people wish. On the fourth Thursday of the month the meet will be somewhere else, ie The Wharf, or another venue should one be found that people want to try out. One condition with this, a change of venue must be polled or at least talked about within the thread.
As the TA / Old Ferry was the venue(s) of choice last year, then they are not moveable or debatable this year. Next years non-movable venue(s) will be the one voted the best this year, and so on.
I think this is possibly the best compromise but if anyone has a better idea then stop moaning and post it up.
After that little tirade A pub in Swansea would be nice.. ;-)
That was a joke by the way. Lighten up.
I thought a nice little discussion was going on. Only a select few are bitching.
Oh. Ok then.
:D
You know, when this thread started off I felt it was going to be a positive thread debating the whys and wherefores of having a second meet during the month as opposed to just having one meet. It has degenerated, IMO into a mish-mash of comments (I know, by me as well) hinting at, but not quite slagging each other off.
My proposal is this. On the second Thursday of each month the meet will be at the TA. During summer months this can be changed to The Old Ferry or another venue if people wish. On the fourth Thursday of the month the meet will be somewhere else, ie The Wharf, or another venue should one be found that people want to try out. One condition with this, a change of venue must be polled or at least talked about within the thread.
As the TA / Old Ferry was the venue(s) of choice last year, then they are not moveable or debatable this year. Next years non-movable venue(s) will be the one voted the best this year, and so on.
I think this is possibly the best compromise but if anyone has a better idea then stop moaning and post it up.
I think that's what I have been saying all along :D
tinpants
18-12-07, 09:36 PM
After that little tirade A pub in Swansea would be nice.. ;-)
That was a joke by the way. Lighten up.
I thought a nice little discussion was going on. Only a select few are bitching.
The Found Out in Gorseinon perhaps?
The Found Out in Gorseinon perhaps?
lol! yes - seems central to me..
Seriously though, are there any other svorgers down west? (wales that is)
tinpants
18-12-07, 10:11 PM
Do the Bikerwales lot still meet there or have they moved on?
Zombie Jesus
18-12-07, 10:16 PM
I like it when people put the most incorrect statements in the largest text :D
tinpants
18-12-07, 10:31 PM
If you are on about my post then my reasoning is thus.
I don't live in Cardiff. Neither do Hovis, Valleyboy, Tel, Jabba or Mogs. The Mofos, generally speaking, don't either. To use the fact that people work in Cardiff is essentially flawed as I could say I work in Gloucester (a further 25 miles from where I live) and screw your calculations even further. Also, I wasn't included in your calculations for whatever reason even though I have been to many of the meets, work permitting.
If you are intending to produce a set of figures to reinforce an argument or point of view then you must include all the relevant data. If you don't then your results will be flawed and will mean nothing.
I nearly finished this post with "having said all that do what you like. I don't give a sh*t anymore" but I stopped myself. I do care, because I enjoy the meets and the company. I've also yet to meet G2D. Thats what these meets should be about - meeting people.
Zombie Jesus
18-12-07, 11:18 PM
Thats what these meets should be about - meeting people.
That's why sarah started this thread to get another possible date going. Unfortunately after 8 pages we havn't managed to decide on anything.
fizzwheel
18-12-07, 11:28 PM
Thats what these meets should be about - meeting people.
Indeed. Reading back through these threads seems that somewhere along the way the whole point of these meets has been lost.
I hope you don't mind me butting in but as an outsider, has anybody actually asked the question.
"Do we need a second meet" Seems to me that you were getting along fine with one meet up per month.
I still think that you have room for an alternate meet at an alternate location in your calender. Why not try the 2nd meet and if nobody turns up or you only have one or two people then you get your answer that way.
All your doing is going round and round in circles at the mo.
IMHO of course and you're quite welcome to tell me to mind my own business.
arenalife
18-12-07, 11:29 PM
um I'm interested in meeting up, I'm not that worried about where a second venue is, can't it just be moveable anyway then at each meet you'd get to see different areas/roads/pubs etc, in the warm and lighter months that would be more interesting than a same old same old. If it turns out too far for you that time you can always just sit it out. Members could suggest their own favourites etc, something to think about.
gettin2dizzy
19-12-07, 08:50 AM
I nearly finished this post with "having said all that do what you like. I don't give a sh*t anymore" but I stopped myself. I do care, because I enjoy the meets and the company. I've also yet to meet G2D. Thats what these meets should be about - meeting people.
Count yourself lucky! ;)
I think we're all losing the plot here. I go to the wharf becasue I like going to the pub, having a bit of banter and a beer. Let's not make this 'forced fun' where we have registers taken and peoples attendance monitored. We're all adults here, no one is going to make a 'divide' in any respect. Do you only sit with the taffia on the AR?
For the record:- I'm less likely to go to Newport as I can't even get to the Wharf for before 9pm so an additional 30 miles rules out Newport for me. That's no reflection on the Newport lot, it just doesn't fit in to my schedule; lifes like that and I don't expect anyone to worry about it for me.
Peace :)
i think all these threads and polls are now pointless, i also think that the warf will go ahead no matter what is said, just so a few people can get drunk.
fizzwheel
19-12-07, 11:38 AM
i also think that the warf will go ahead no matter what is said, just so a few people can get drunk.
But if its a seperate meet to the exisiting one that attracts a few new people for a more social meet why is that such a big problem.
I can't see how it would split the group up. It might in fact encourage more people to turn up.
But if its a seperate meet to the exisiting one that attracts a few new people for a more social meet why is that such a big problem.
I can't see how it would split the group up. It might in fact encourage more people to turn up.
We don't take kindly to logic around these parts ;):p
Clearly Sarah has taken the leadership role, and I thank her for it - Good job.
Hopefully she has not given up on the more frequently meeting date, as I think there is enough call for it.
Trying to be constructive I would like to support the additional meet, thus making the Taffia gathering a fortnightly event. During the winter months "The Wharf" and the summer "The Blue Anchor" in Aberthaw, and a different day, the 4th Tuesday of the month.
I call for Sarah to add these dates and venues to the schedule (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=101798), and that we now draw a line under this.
Clearly Sarah has taken the leadership role, and I thank her for it - Good job.
:king:
I'm going to give a few more days for people to vote for the day of the week for the second meet and then I'll make a new thread with the relevant info.
gettin2dizzy
19-12-07, 01:23 PM
:king:
I'm going to give a few more days for people to vote for thursday for the second meet and then I'll make a new thread with the relevant info.
:smt035
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