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What are your guys opinions on trading up to an older higher milage bike??
I got my SV new on a 56 plate. Its done bang on 11k had has got FSH.
Thing is I have lost about £3k in depreciation... OK that money's gone now so maybe i should just get over it... but i sort of think i should hang onto the bike to get my moneys worth, (and i do love the SV).
For the part-ex money and the little extra i'm prepared to put towards it, I'm looking at a an older (2003 - 2004) 30k FZS Fazer 1000.
I've got too much time to think about it really hence this post... but I don't want to regret chopping in the SV!
(someone tell me to stop being stupid and get the bigger bike!!)
Stop being stupid and don't get the bigger bike.
Get the fastest SV, curvy blue :)
An alternative that I hadn't considered...
Nah pointy CLEARLY looks better ;)
Heheh
Well, any bike you get, you will lose money on, so, err, follow your heart?
you would have not lost 3K depriciation!!!! if you are that interested go to dealers and have a look what you will get PX on different bikes. GW gave me a good deal PX against my new bike.
mr.anderson
27-12-07, 12:03 AM
I was having a chat with a very knowledgeable gentleman again today who has ensured me that the average bike (SV included) is far more capable than any rider will ever demand of a bike on the road. (This gentleman has 25+ years riding experience and will put to shame most people who challenge him in riding skill, technical knowledge, miles done, and more). At the same time, I have just bought a ZX6R which I am very aware is beyond my capabilites, but which I enjoy for different reasons.I am of the opinion, in my limited experience, that as long as you are happy that you have the self control not to chuck yourself off the back of the bike and will find the performance (also in terms of build quality, etc) increase something that you appreciate in the bike then go for it.
arenalife
27-12-07, 09:05 AM
There's no way you've lost 3k, maybe 1 - 1.5 depending on how you've kept it.
Agreed. My k5 had lost 3 grand, but it had 25k on the clock, had mostly been home serviced and had been down the road 4 times in the time I had it! Speak to other dealers before parting with your bike and some hard earned!
I traded up to an older lower mileage bike, but I've had problems with it not running right. You need to ask yourself if you want/ need another bike enough to justify the expense, and only you can make that decision...
you would have not lost 3K depriciation!!!! if you are that interested go to dealers and have a look what you will get PX on different bikes. GW gave me a good deal PX against my new bike.
GW offered me £2500 for it not long ago. It's lost a lot!
Agreed. My k5 had lost 3 grand, but it had 25k on the clock, had mostly been home serviced and had been down the road 4 times in the time I had it! Speak to other dealers before parting with your bike and some hard earned!
I traded up to an older lower mileage bike, but I've had problems with it not running right. You need to ask yourself if you want/ need another bike enough to justify the expense, and only you can make that decision...
Thats interesting... I'll have to go round a few dealerships. Sounds like they're a bit low. Bike is generally spotless apart from scratch on swing arm and a scuff on fairing! (its even got a spotless downpipe!)
I wish you hadn't said your 'new' older bike had problems, get it fixed easily? Under warranty?
on and given that you can get a new SV650S for 4k with full fairing and seat cowl i wasn't that suprised they offered FA for it.
GW offered me £2500 for it not long ago. It's lost a lot!
**** me, that is a lot, they gave me £2K for my 53 plate, hmmm if they are offering that little for it, keep it for a while maybe and then sell it when it wont depriciate much more.
Makes the deal i got look even better :D
The trick with older bikes is to get a good'un...
... but often you don't know you've got a bad'un until things start to go wrong. :roll:
What can be a good gauge is to look at the service schedule - for example, don't get a Honda coming up to its 16k service (or possibly 20k on some models I think) as that's a biggy, so may cost you in the short term.
Do you like, or are you able, to do your own work on a bike? If not, perhaps sticking with something newer with manufacturer's warrenty etc is perhaps best.
Also I guess it depends what you mean by 'older'. Obviously there's your really 'classic' status - but otherwise you're generally looking at something that is only a couple of years old (where the first owner has taken the big depreciation hit for you), or the 5-10 year old bracket (where you are possibly more likely to have bikes with 'issues').
There are pros and cons for any approach to be honest - but at the end of the day it's partly down to the money (initial outlay vs higher running costs) and alot down to the bike in question (good or bad).
'Spose you have to figure out which is the most important to you - money or bike?
What can be a good gauge is to look at the service schedule - for example, don't get a Honda coming up to its 16k service (or possibly 20k on some models I think) as that's a biggy, so may cost you in the short term.
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yes and no, service history i would look for, but if it needs one doing donte walk away from an great bike just because you have to spend a few 00 on it soon, by all means use it to haggle. But sooner or later you are going to have to service a bike anyway , so i dont see the issue.
kwak zzr
30-12-07, 02:10 PM
you'll always loose money but frigg it enjoy yourself your only here once lol.
My personal opinion on all this is that I would never px for an older machine than I already have. I'd look for something the same age or newer. I know it can be tempting to go for something older especially when trading up to a larger more expensive machine.
Not saying an older bike won't be reliable but it is often pot luck. The tatty abused bike can go on for years without a penny spent on it where as the tidy well cared for machine can have problems.
I'd just wait and save up a bit more cash to get a larger machine of at least the same age.
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