View Full Version : Servicing costs - 15k miles
richbeales
02-01-08, 11:38 AM
Any idea how much a major service should cost in the SE of England (Canterbury)?
Mine's going in for a 15,000 mile service next week, plus some new tires...
And before you ask, yes I have a Haynes manual, and I do oil changes myself, but I'm still happier to have someone else check the more important things at major intervals.
Bearing in mind tires are probably around ~£180 (the current tires have been on since new!!), how much would you budget for the service?
Ouch, the tyres you're probably about right on. Dealer servicing is something I've not been involved with for a few years, but I do know that at 15,000 the valve clearances need checking. It's an easy check but will take a while if they need changing.
Ring up a couple of reputable dealers and ask for a quote?
Al_Sweetman
03-01-08, 10:40 AM
Spot on the £200 mark Hovis,
I've just booked mine in for Monday, and it's breaking down as follows:
Service (15k): £190
Chain and Sprocket: £85 (labour *kindly* (???) included in service charge)
BT021 rear tyre: £105 fitted
£380 total, two weeks after Christmas *SOB*
Annoying thing is I changed the filter (O+A), oil, and sync'd the throttle bodies not 1k miles ago....
Cheers,
Al.
Alpinestarhero
03-01-08, 10:48 AM
I got a set of MEZ6's from fowlers motorcycles for £150 (my dad ordered them through his garage, i dunno if that hs any bearing on the price though)
Matt
I'm doing a 15k service on my K1 when it gets a bit warmer. Anything special to look for outside of the recommended stuff in Haynes? What about sprockets and chain? Mine don't look too bad but they have been on the bike since new.:confused:
Tell them that the oil and filters have both already been done before they start, so they don't do it again. They might knock a bit of money off it if they don't have to order the parts in.
On the other hand, has the front tyre done 15k - it might be past its best if it has, and if its original as you said, it could be a long way past. The Dunlop OEM that came off mine was borderline illegal at the rear after 9k, and the front was squaring off. Thats what I'm blaming my poor riding on, anyway :p
My bike is at 13k at the moment but Im gonna get the 15k service done. Question is, Ive done all my own servicing so far, as theyre minor easy ones. I dont know how to do the shims so was going to take it in to get these done and also to get the throttle bodies synched (this can be done on a pointy cant it?) but was going to do the rest of it myself. Cant work out if itll be cheaper just to take it to the garage to get the lot done and get the big one stamped.
dizzyblonde
03-01-08, 11:44 AM
ooooooo 15000 miles, shims expensive!! Or alternatively find a mate with vast experience and do it yourself. We ( sorry Im Indoors or Chris) service my bikes. Cost- labour zilch. Plus price for whatever parts you need. I have a full service history in the way of reciepts for all stuff purchased for servicing. Why pay more?? buy a Haynes and a Clymer manual and get cracking
Al_Sweetman
03-01-08, 02:16 PM
....and also to get the throttle bodies synched (this can be done on a pointy cant it?)
Yup sure can - 'tis the most recent service 'mod' I did....
Doesn't take too long at all - it's a bit tricky the first time but certainly not what i'd class as 'hard'... If you're happy fettling yourself, which from the sounds of it you are, it's fairly straightforward.
Main reason for me getting the garage to do it is all the swingarm/suspension stuff (bushings etc.) and the various bearings which I don't really have the time (or inclination) to play around with....
you mean checking the bushings? They dont replace if not needed.
Shims werent too bad because the guy I was going to take it to said he would just use those that he has accumulated over the years so it wasnt as if he was buying new.
my local stealership quoted me £300 for a full service + £60 for fitting a new chain & sprockets :/
Al_Sweetman
03-01-08, 04:51 PM
my local stealership quoted me £300 for a full service + £60 for fitting a new chain & sprockets :/
£300 for a full service sounds mightily expensive!
Is the £60 quote fitted or excl. labour?
Just been quoted £130 for service + extra £70 +shims if they need changing. Apparently sorting throttle bodies are tied in with service price
£130 for a major service??
think I need to move/change my dealer...:mad:
yorkie_chris
04-01-08, 11:47 AM
Main reason for me getting the garage to do it is all the swingarm/suspension stuff (bushings etc.) and the various bearings which I don't really have the time (or inclination) to play around with....
you mean checking the bushings? They dont replace if not needed.
What bushings? :-P
Swingarm + linkage bearings are roller/needle bearing type things which usually just need a bit of grease.
SV650Racer
05-01-08, 02:45 PM
£300 for a full service sounds mightily expensive!
Is the £60 quote fitted or excl. labour?
Not really. If their labour rate is about £55 and it includes plugs, oil, filters, saundries, shims etc its about right.
Remember labour rates between shops can vary alot.
Also when people say what they have paid they often dont state what for..which obviously makes a difference.
We had a customer last month saying he had been overcharged as his mate was charged £90 less the month before. He forgot he had a new front tyre and his mate didnt:mrgreen:
I've got the service booked for next week so I'll let you know.
Not really. If their labour rate is about £55 and it includes plugs, oil, filters, saundries, shims etc its about right.
Remember labour rates between shops can vary alot.
Also when people say what they have paid they often dont state what for..which obviously makes a difference.
We had a customer last month saying he had been overcharged as his mate was charged £90 less the month before. He forgot he had a new front tyre and his mate didnt:mrgreen:
Just been on that alpha-sports site for the shim part numbers etc.. If I have to add/replace shims etc(haven't read up about it yet) where is a good place to get them? Do they come in different thicknesses?
Thanks,
John
yorkie_chris
05-01-08, 03:52 PM
wemoto.com or suzuki dealers.
What you do is check the clearance, if its out of spec then remove the shim, measure it, see what size it is and what the difference is, then order a new shim and fit it.
Basically if the clearance is 0.01mm too small then you replace the shim with one 0.01 thinner (or thereabouts to get the clearance back into the middle of the range)
Haynes manual shows it in detail.
SV650Racer
05-01-08, 03:53 PM
Just been on that alpha-sports site for the shim part numbers etc.. If I have to add/replace shims etc(haven't read up about it yet) where is a good place to get them? Do they come in different thicknesses?
Thanks,
John
Whats been answered above but adding that some shops (like we do) will sell shims on an exchange basis, meaning you "part ex" your old shims in, meaning it will cost less.
Some wont, so ask about.
Whats been answered above but adding that some shops (like we do) will sell shims on an exchange basis, meaning you "part ex" your old shims in, meaning it will cost less.
Some wont, so ask about.
Thanks for advices guys :smt045
yorkie_chris
05-01-08, 04:00 PM
Dealers won't exchange them IME
But ask on here I've got 10 or so of various sizes kicking about, I'm sure other people have some about too.
SV650Racer
05-01-08, 04:03 PM
Dealers won't exchange them IME
not quiet true;). I run a suzuki dealership and we have always exchanged shims. I know of many others that also do.
yorkie_chris
05-01-08, 04:05 PM
I stand corrected :)
SV650Racer
05-01-08, 04:10 PM
I stand corrected :)
No prob:cool:
Al_Sweetman
05-01-08, 05:35 PM
Not really. If their labour rate is about £55 and it includes plugs, oil, filters, saundries, shims etc its about right.
Remember labour rates between shops can vary alot.
Also when people say what they have paid they often dont state what for..which obviously makes a difference.
We had a customer last month saying he had been overcharged as his mate was charged £90 less the month before. He forgot he had a new front tyre and his mate didnt:mrgreen:
True, but for the basic quote which is what I think he's got here, £300 still sounds expensive...
Whilst I agree that the final bill is dependent on exactly what work is needed to be carried out, there must be a "flat rate" for the service which is what it'll cost assuming nothing "extra" needs to be changed.... Hence why I got a "quote" of £190 for the service - I'd assume (maybe naively) that that £190 was for the "basic" stuff (e.g. plugs changed, oil, filters etc etc.) and that a final bill of £300 would only exist if there were mucho problems... That's why I thought it expensive
Still, if it's a garage accurately quoting a realist rather than "book" price, that'll make a first ;-)
SV650Racer
05-01-08, 05:49 PM
True, but for the basic quote which is what I think he's got here, £300 still sounds expensive...
I would expect that they have quoted him for the full 15k valve service including parts and labour.
there must be a "flat rate" for the service which is what it'll cost assuming nothing "extra" needs to be changed....
There is no such thing as a flat or common rate between dealers. Even oil prices vary. Labour costs vary greatly. This guy has been quoted for a full valve service.
Still, if it's a garage accurately quoting a realist rather than "book" price, that'll make a first ;-)
Most do. We have to as customers only ever remember the lower price and forget that anything extra will be chargable;).
I would expect that they have quoted him for the full 15k valve service including parts and labour.
yup:)
price included oil, filter, breaking & cooling fluid change, valve clearances, + an inspection of everything else.
With replacing chain and sprockets (supplied by me) and labour at £55/h it all came to £340.
Overall the bike feels much better :D
Well I am a bit short on cash this month after some expensive purchases so think I am going to do this myself. This is a list of the things I plan to do
Oil & Filter Change
Air filter oil (K&N)
Sparks changed
Check all bolts/nuts for torque
adjust chain
clean the whole bike
Now as I cant do throttle bodies (dont have tools) and dont fancy doing valve clearances, im going to get the garage to complete those 2 areas, and get him to run it on the dyno to see if theres anything which needs sorting. That way I'll know if the engine has any issues.
Brake fluid and radiator fluid were only changed last January as braided lines were fitted.
Is there anything I've missed?? Also going to fit new brake pads to front of the bike.
yorkie_chris
15-01-08, 05:49 PM
Clean and grase brake calipers and swingarm bearings
Know how to service brakes but how do you clean the swingarm bearings???
yorkie_chris
15-01-08, 09:18 PM
Take the linkages off and the swingarm out, rinse them with solvent, dry with compressed air, check inner races for corrosion and polish off gently, pack the lot with loads of grease and reassemble.
is that only on the 15k service as the garage didnt mention it...
yorkie_chris
15-01-08, 09:57 PM
Dunno, I don't bother with service schedules, it gets oil every 3k ish, oil + filter every 6k, carb balance and stuff when it needs it, brake strip every couple of months.
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