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Daimo
04-01-08, 03:06 PM
Seeing how some of the posts have gone recently (here and on other forums). How have you been treated by the police?

This is both positive and negative comments to them. Have they helped you before? Has an officer gone above the call of duty to aid you? Have they ever been nice or just informed you of a law change out of curtosy. Or have they been useless, arrogent to you, not come out at a robbery etc etc....

Not just a flaming post (well, we'll see people own opinions).

I have only had a few dealings with police in my life:

Dad had a bike stolen from outside the house. Police never even turned up.
GF had car broken into outside mothers house, fingerprints everywhere, police didn't even bother turning up.
Got done for 46mph in a 40mph limit when I first past my test. My next door neighbour was a copper, she couldn't believe it. I was treated as scum at the time.
I got pulled for a rather high speed of 131mph peak. Police officers (undercover) treated me like I had just killed someone and pulled their heart out with a wooden spoon. I was treated like dirt, even though fully realised my mistake (of being caught) at the time and was as white as sheet with fright.
The whole "cycle box" post......
I used to go to the naughty illegal cruises when I was younger. Never ever ever met a copper at those events who wasn't high on caffine and on a power trip.
Quite a few more.....
I've only ever had one good encounter with a copper after he pulled me over when I was younger. When I spoke to him, he saw I was no boyracer, and we had a really good natter about cars and bikes. He was an older officer, kinda like the friendly village bobby...

Basically, in nearly 27 years, i've had only 1 good experience with a copper. I accept my flaws and don't tend to give any lip unless provoked, in which case, all guns come out blazing.

Do the police force create their own problems sometimes with regards of attitude towards the (guilty until proven innocent) public?

Wester
04-01-08, 03:23 PM
Okay.

I had my moped stolen - No police interest.
Dad had his car broken into 12 times in the past 8 years - No Interest
I decide to take a leak in a bush after a long night out(there was nobody about) - Bingo!!! Panda car comes round the corner and whisks me off for a night in the cells.

I recently applied to join the police as a special constable, got through interviews and waited for approval, various eyesight tests and a small medical. Took about a year and a half.
Only to be turned down two weeks before training begins because i had a bad reference from an agency, who said they would not re hire me.
All because i decided not to go into work when they wern't paying me.

I dont like the police very much at the moment....

fizzwheel
04-01-08, 03:24 PM
I've only had two bad experiences.

First time I was Mr Cocky and I gave the police officer backchat, lesson learnt fast and the hardway I got an almight rollocking but no points fine.

Second time, they guy was quite frankly a moron, he was rude to me before I had even spoke to him, I didnt say anything to him and answered his questions politely and no matter what I said he was rude and antagonising towards me. I suspect he never had to actually nick me, so he was trying to wind me up so he could nick me for that instead. I didnt give him the satisfaction and he eventually let me go on my way.

Every other time I've been dealt with politely and with respect and I used to get pulled over alot when I was younger as I used to drive like a tw*t.
Three instances stick in my mind, once after being pulled for 95.3mph on the M5 a few years ago, officers were polite and courteous and actually complimented me on my driving, except for the speed.

2nd time was 3 days after I got my GSXR when I was in Weymouth, in teh rain with dark visor, deballfed race can and I got pulled over, The officer was a pains to re-assure me I hadnt done anything wrong and they were doing a insurance and tax check on bikes that day. He asked me if my bike was insured and taxed, to which I replied it was, he did a few checks to verify what I had said and he then said thanks for stopping and when I had put my earplugs and lid back on he stopped the traffic so it was easy for me to rejoin and carry on my journey.

The third time I thought I was right royally screwd after being caught for 70mph in a 30mph limit. The officer that day was a gent, he gave me a right royal b*ll*cking and then read me my rights and I thought I was going to be arrested their and then and I was sh*tting a brick and he had me bang to rights, he then said beacuse I had been polite when i was speaking to him and honest about my speeed he was going to let me go, it made a big impact om my driving especially in built up areas and was the thing that finally got me to slow down.

I had nothing but respect for traffic officers, but don't get me started about speed cameras.

I found you reap what you sew, i.e if you are quiet, speak when spoken to and are honest and polite, you'll get treated that way in return, if you are rude and start being clever with backchat they you'll get the book thrown at you.

Lozzo
04-01-08, 03:32 PM
I bought one of their records once, "Walking on the Moon", it was rubbish.

the_lone_wolf
04-01-08, 03:42 PM
I bought one of their records once, "Walking on the Moon", it was rubbish.
git, beat me to it...:p

G
04-01-08, 03:43 PM
Mainly been 99% good except when calling them out to break ins etc, but they are understaffed, and other things take priority which is fair enough.

If your decent towards them then generally they have no reason to be abrasive towards you. I have followed that line of thinking and done okay so far and got away with stuff I perhaps shouldnt have done.

You occasionaly get the odd jobsworth like you do in any profession. One of my incidents with one of these went like below....

Has anyone seen the Thin Blue Line? The gay guy...........

I had a guy that acted, talked and looked exactly like him. We had a car parked on private property and the car had no front number plate which is what he picked up on intially.

He was trying to tell me he could give us a £30 fine etc and talking rubbish whilst on his high horse, trying to get one up on me us........ It didnt work.

He then started checking the tyres and picking faults with everything. He tried telling us alsorts and that the car could get us 12 points etc if he wanted to.

In the end we got frustrated and pointed out the car was not insured, not taxed and had not MOT etc, and would he like to arrest us straight away. Before he could say anything, we then pointed out...

'actually no you cant its on private property so you cant actually do anything and if you look under the bonnet you will find it does not even have an engine installed......so please leave us to it before we file a harrasement complaint against you'

He prompty got in his car (with a brake light out) and got on his way.:rolleyes:


Because most people have so little known contact with the Police, incidents like that above stick in their minds and assume they are all the same. Its the minority acting like that which paints all Police with the same brush.

PsychoCannon
04-01-08, 03:48 PM
I've had good and bad with the police, Strangely the only Bad I've had was to do with break in's and thefts where they just aren't interested though in once case it was more the CPS's fault as they didn't want to go to court when they got the guy who left his prints all over my bike because I didn't see his face :sigh:.

Getting pulled over I've had it pretty good.
True the first time I got a rollocking (a polite one though) and banned for 2 months and a grand fine.

2nd time I'm very confused about....got not only a right rollocking but this time the two officers seemed quite rude and abrupt but one of them seemed pretty young..probably a rookie getting shown the ropes...
Then the older officer who was doing all the talking sent me off and I was half way home when I realised he written me a producer then put it away whilst looking at me...it hadn't clicked at the time because I was too busy kicking myself and feeling stupid...but I'm fairly sure to this day he did it on purpose, suffice to say I never heard anything more of it but the lessons stuck...well...for another 5 years at least....

Most recent was my bike being nicked at 3am, police didn't want to come to take prints from the bins etc that had been taken from the neighbours house to barricade the door just in case.

Dumbest was when I had, quite drunk....got a pint from the bar only to turn around and be told by the bouncer I'd have to have to drink that NOW or leave they were closing, eerr...drinking up time no? bah...so as soon as his back was turned I did a Eddie (bottom) and put it in my pocket and left...

Out the door, pint out the pocket and turn around with a big grin...staring right at a police officer....wow it's so embarrasing remebering how stupid I could be back then >_<

He asked me if that was alchol and I stupidly replied, "Don't know, just found it..." thankfully he didn't take offence to me trying to be a smart ****, asked me to pour it down the gutter and return the glass and go on my way....nice chap ^_^.....shame about the pint...

PsychoCannon
04-01-08, 03:50 PM
He prompty got in his car (with a brake light out) and got on his way.:rolleyes:
.

Hahaha classic.

Pedro68
04-01-08, 03:55 PM
I bought one of their records once, "Walking on the Moon", it was rubbish.
Yeah, The Jam were much better :-P

My dealings with the police have been fairly unspectacular really.

Got stopped for undertaking once and given a caution (only because he said they were carrying no measuring equipment and neither him or his buddy could quite agree what speed I was actually doing). I had just undertaken a Ford Fiesta that was doing 40mph in a NSL dual carriageway, however as we passed a 40mph speed limit sign I was probably still doing 60mph :oops:

Anyway, copper told me he could understand my frustrations but had I not actually performed the silly undertaking then he would have actually stopped the Fiesta and told him about his lane discipline (that has to be a first!). The copper told me he didn't think I was wearing my seatbelt either, and that was the only point I argued with him about - and I suggested that perhaps his visibility wasn't helped by the small rear window of my MR2 - and fair play - he accepted he could have been mistaken.

After a crash on the motorway I had good-cop-bad-cop in one person (must have been a schizophrenic copper) ... he started by berating me for not calling the police first when I told him I was on the phone to my insurance company to actually get the vehicle recovered! Then he noticed how shocked I was ;-) and went a bit easy on me - he could have done me for BOTH rear tyres being under the legal limit, but he only did me for one :) (blessing in disguise that was when I later gained a further 3 points for speeding to take my tally to 10 - GULP!)

I find that there are certainly a mix of coppers out there ... some don't take the job too seriously and can have a laugh and a joke with you (depending on circumstances), but some take it waaaaay too seriously, the power goes to their heads, and they seem to have had the "sense of humour bypass" and go on to carve a blinding career in the Brunstrom mould ;-)

I try to be courteous whenever I can (as I once got done for speeding and had the audacity to say "What do you mean it's 30 here? Where's the bloody signs that say that then??", to which he replied, "As soon as you come out of the tunnel sir, and if you are still in any doubt, can you tell me how far apart the street lighting is sir?" ... needless to say that one was a £40 fixed penalty and 3 points).

I'm sure some of them purposely try and rile "offenders" to try and provoke a reaction out of them, but I'd like to think that those tw*ts are in the minority :)

Lozzo
04-01-08, 03:57 PM
Most of the coppers I've had dealings with have acted very professionally and used their discretion when dealing with my heinous offences, but you do get the occasional exception.

On one Saturday night when I was 19 I was arrested for taking a leak up the side of a car when out of my tree on Red Stripe Lager, the fact that it was a marked panda car with a sergeant inside it hadn't deterred me. He waited until I had finished, gently opened the door and treated me with surprising civility considering the offence. I cooperated and vaguely remember calling the sergeant a 'proper gent' at the time.

I was in front of the beak the next Monday, where I got a 20 quid fine, but I got a further 50 quid fine and a week in the cells, plus punishment duty from my CO when I got back to barracks late.

On the other hand I've come across a 2-man traffic team who attempted to bully me into admitting doing a runner from their Ford Granada on a Beckett tuned RD400 late one night. Ok, so I had, but I knew for a fact they couldn't prove it, or they'd have arrested me straight away. The intimidation was quite severe, until I pointed out that they had been invited into my house and I didn't like the way they were speaking to me, and told them to leave. Throughout the 10 minutes they were inside they had left the blue flashing lights on the car going, at 11-30 at night. My neighbours and I made a total of five complaints about this at the time and the next day, which got the officers a serious bollocking

timwilky
04-01-08, 04:14 PM
When I have been on the receiving end of police attention I have been treated with nothing but civility. except one incident about 30 years ago when I was waiting for a bus home on a Saturday night.

The police mob handed hit Chorley bus station, dragged one guy out of the crowd, next thing a bottle flew from somewhere and smashed against a van. They simply waded in and dragged in every lad they could. As I protested my innocence I was smacked in the face and kicked in my man bits. Once at the police station I attempted to make a complaint. The did a record check against me and kicked me out. An inspector came round in the morning apologetic at me have been arrested and persuaded me that it was in nobodies interest for me to pursue my complaint.

I have however had recent dealing with them as a result of my lad. The local sergeant is a target obsessed bitch. She abuses her powers and intimidates people into accepting penalties with the threat of court proceedings for petty problems. The other cops I have dealt with are again reasonable people doing a difficult job.

The Basket
04-01-08, 04:29 PM
I accept my flaws and don't tend to give any lip unless provoked, in which case, all guns come out blazing.

And then you lose. Big time.

Kate Moss
04-01-08, 04:30 PM
Personally I have only had 1 dealing with police.
I was pulled over becuase apparantly I had gone through a red light. I sh!t myself just becuase they were very intimidating and quite stern with me. I apologised and said I hadn't realised (rather than say "no i didn't!) *flutters eyelashes*
they informed me that my actions could have led to 3 points on my lisence which id had for 3 months! I apologised and they said they would let me off this time! They then turn quite charming and wished me a pleasant evening! Took two of them to ask me the questions though which was scary! There was only little ol' me in the car!

Daimo
04-01-08, 04:30 PM
Yeah, im in the thinking that if you've done the crime, expect to be pulled.

Buts thats not the question, its the attitude and approach of the officers thats more the question. How did they treat you? They were right to pull you if you sped, but how did they react/talk to you. Did they place you in a box and speak down to you, or speak at your level? Have they helped you, or not helped you with issues etc?

Fizzy Fish
04-01-08, 04:40 PM
I got pulled for a rather high speed of 131mph peak. Police officers (undercover) treated me like I had just killed someone and pulled their heart out with a wooden spoon. I was treated like dirt, even though fully realised my mistake (of being caught) at the time and was as white as sheet with fright.

personally i think you were ****ing lucky to get off with that! If the same happened to me i wouldn't care how they treated me as long as they didn't send me to court! :lol:

TBH my experiences have generally been good. It's a shame that the Police can't do much for certain crimes (e.g. bike theft), but I don't believe that's down to the individuals, more the system. And you do get the occasional useless/unhelpful fool (particularly the administrators), but then that happens with any organisation.

The only time I've ever been pulled was doing 53 in a 40 late at night, by a speed trap. One officer wanted to ticket me, but the other decided to overrule him and let me off with a warning. He was stern but very polite throughout, but then i was ultra-polite myself, turned the bike off, lid off ASAP, etc.

Oh and once a cop car raced alongside me and waved his finger/shouted "30mph!", but then i was doing over 50 along the embankment so that's fair enough as well.

And I'll take either of those over a ticket anyday!!

Pedro68
04-01-08, 04:42 PM
Most of them have been ok with me ... never really had any condescending ones ... although I did get pulled for speeding by some little Hitler in Newcastle ... me and 2 mates were on a Charity "Jail Break" (ironic really?!) and were looking for signs to get us out of Newcastle (so were we were looking at over-head gantry signs) and completely missed the signs that denoted the speed limit had just gone from 50 to 30 :(

As the ticket was being written out (I'm sat in the driver seat fully accepting of my fate), my mate leans across from the passenger seat and says "Oh come on officer, it's for charity mate ... aren't you feeling charitable today?".

The look the copper gave basically said "if I had a gun I'd shoot you all right now so that I didn't have to do this sodding paperwork!", but he just said, "No" and kept on writing.

Also ironic is that my mate in the passenger seat is now a copper! LOL

Other than that, I think they've all been very "matter of fact, but polite" with me :)

Dicky Ticker
04-01-08, 04:42 PM
Being ex-job I think attitudes to pursuing crime has changed. In the late 60's early 70's we pushed the more serious crimes to the fore and gave kids a cuff on the ear.Todays police have much more paperwork to contend with and government don't help by their detection statistics.Manning levels and being seen to be PC plus all the do-gooders make it a thankless task IMO.
I have always been treated courteously[If NOT fairly] but the police only charge you with the offence and the CPS and Courts are more lacking in adhering to the rules of conviction than the actual police are at reporting the offence

All comes down to " Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

krhall
04-01-08, 04:44 PM
I have had a few dealings with the Met and with the Transport Police again, some good and some bad.

I don't personally know any coppers, but I imagine that job would turn anyone into being a ******* having to deal with all the scumbags and judging from the programmes on telly them never getting sentenced etc. MUST be really frustrating.

I always feel like I've done something wrong even when I know I haven't, It's just the way it is. I wouldn't do that job for all the money in the world.

Having said all that I don't think they go after the right people all the time and do over police motorists which p*sses us all off, its not like we're not already paying too many taxes and following enough needless laws.

But I don't think they really have enough power when it comes to greater criminals and repeat offender such as the thieving, drug filled scum we see on those crap programmes on freeview...............

Back to your other thread Daimo - they never nick car drivers for parking in bike lanes or driving in them, surely that is more dangerous?

Daimo
04-01-08, 04:47 PM
personally i think you were ****ing lucky to get off with that! If the same happened to me i wouldn't care how they treated me as long as they didn't send me to court! :lol:


I did have to go to court over it. My own fault, i done the speed, i accepted the punishment. The reason i got away is due to me defending myself, bit of charm and all that :lol:

How I was treated at the time by the coppers though was simply shocking.

Shellywoozle
04-01-08, 04:57 PM
Hey if you want a good experience with a copper come see me, I will be nice to ya !!!

Honest !

Bluepete
04-01-08, 05:00 PM
Hey if you want a good experience with a copper come see me, I will be nice to ya !!!

Honest !

I'm on me way! We can be nice to each other :D

Dicky Ticker
04-01-08, 05:00 PM
White man speak with Y tongue:D

Shellywoozle
04-01-08, 05:03 PM
I'm on me way! We can be nice to each other :D

Come get me baby !! Two sets of cuffs are better than one

Paws
04-01-08, 05:31 PM
shelly and bluethunder are lovely so i guess they out way my one bad experience with a police officer :)


ppsssttt-shell can i borrow your handcuffs? thunder wont let me play with his!

Shellywoozle
04-01-08, 05:45 PM
shelly and bluethunder are lovely so i guess they out way my one bad experience with a police officer :)


ppsssttt-shell can i borrow your handcuffs? thunder wont let me play with his!

Ahh go on then Paws since I am not using them at the mo, don't want them too over lubricated when they are returned tho chick ! ;)

Paws
04-01-08, 05:47 PM
Ahh go on then Paws since I am not using them at the mo, don't want them too over lubricated when they are returned tho chick ! ;)


ffs shell!!!! lol :p:smt075

Shellywoozle
04-01-08, 05:48 PM
ffs shell!!!! lol :p:smt075

WHAT ?? :smt043

Paws
04-01-08, 05:50 PM
WHAT ?? :smt043

behave lol, now lets stop de-railing this thread.:p

redbouy
04-01-08, 06:05 PM
I did have to pick a set of cuffs, The guy had lost the keys and lock the girls hands.:smt043

Bluepete
04-01-08, 06:10 PM
I had to get the fire brigade in to cut off a set of cuffs :D

They jammed when going on :D :D


Not on me by the way, a prisoner :rolleyes:

Stig
04-01-08, 06:30 PM
I have had plenty of 'instances' with the police. I have never come across a bad one. In fact, I have been extremely lucky with meeting the damn good ones. Even when I have been fined and points given, it could have been much worse had the officer cared to charge me for all things he could have.

the_lone_wolf
04-01-08, 06:51 PM
Not on me by the way, a prisoner :rolleyes:
i didn't know the police did that sort of thing to prisoners...


;)

2mths
04-01-08, 07:01 PM
Pulled on the M1 at night for having no lights on the bike (Fair cop). Given a damn good (and deserved bollocking) a producer and told not to go back on the motoway without it fixed. When the official bit was over he said it looks like you've blown a fuse or fuses and they'll be under that side panel. Being a bit green it probably took me an hour to make the most of the advice but then i was on my with - i sacrificed my indicators for my headlight - and that only worked on full beam. Still got me home. So top marks there.

I've never had a 'bad' experiance as such. I'm generally a very law abiding person, probably to my own detriment. I do get annoyed when the police put on a bad show though. I emailed my local lot to say I list a few things recently that didn't impress me. They said they'd raise a complaint. I replied and said I didn't want to make a formal complaint, but that I wanted them to agree with me and tell me what they were going to do about it. I then got a letter from someone else telling me he appreciated my observations and what they were going to do.

I've had my garage broken into numerous times and where I've needed to make an insurance claim (never for contents but for two new doors) I've had to report the breakins. I've also reported one attempted that caused serious damage. After the 3rd report they sent someone round, forensics. I'm sure though that they were only there to check I wasn't doing some kind of insurance scam. They turned up, were amazed at the damage to the door and left after about 2 minutes saying there was nothing they could get prints from.

So I've no personal experiance to complain about, but I do think they are hamstrung by rules & regulations and the rest of the bollox (political correctness and avoidance of any kind of 'ism) that is adversely affecting our society.

-Ralph-
04-01-08, 10:29 PM
The Police - Your Review?

The Who? They were good weren't they? Roger Daltrey and co.

Oh, "The Police", yeah they were OK, not really my taste, but my sister liked them.

Sorry, you the mean the Boys in Blue? That terrible comedy by Cannon and Ball. :rolleyes:

Oh, now I remember, you mean those guys that used to wear uniforms and drive round in cars with blue lights on the top! Whatever happened to them?They were quite common ten years ago. As for a review, well the minds a bit rusty but I seem to remember some were good lads and some were wannkers

Ratty46
04-01-08, 10:44 PM
i havent been pulled much on bikes,

got pulled one night for no lights, i simply forgot to switch them back on! had to turn them off on my scoot hwen i parked it, or they would blow occasionally when my immobiliser activated(GOD KNOWS WHY!>), thats what i told the copper anyway, he was kool about it name checkd out and off i went.

when ever i am pulled im polite to them, i give them no excuse to get arsey with me, when i was younger i got nicked quite a few times, even then when i was mouthy some were still very kool headed with me,some were just idiots be it old bill or not. and i learnt its better to give them no excuse to get aggy with you. if they do just be nice, they dont like that.

kwak zzr
05-01-08, 12:02 AM
if i get pulled for any reason it would have to be by Miss Shellywoozle, what a loverly telling off that would be lol :) mmmmm trying not to think of shell in uniform lol :)

squirrel_hunter
05-01-08, 12:48 AM
Generally had a good experience all round... so far...

My biggest complaint would be the time they can take to turn up to take someone away. Admittedly these are non urgent calls but after an hour or so the 'suspect' does start to get a little jumpy.

As for a good experience? I nicked someone right at the end of my shift one night. After they were carted off and I did the statement it was about an hour and a half after the shop had closed. The only people left were me a manager and a sales assistant, my date. We were supposed to be going to the cinema after work and she was not happy with me. So I had a chat with one of the officers and we got a ride over to the cinema, which was nice as it was blowing a gale. I still remember the faces of the kids outside as this cop car pulled up, they opened the door to let us out, I said thanks and we wondered into a movie.

Tiger 55
05-01-08, 11:46 AM
I've been nicked three times in twenty years, always by real policemen rather than cameras and they've always been polite and professional. Same goes for all the cops who have let me off over the years and the ones who responded to a break in at the flat a few years back.

I, on the other hand was a right pr*ick to them as a (drunk) obnoxious youth. I grew out of that though, as people tend to do...

The only tw*ts I have ever come across were Transport police brought in from dan sarf (actually they were mostly from oop north but you know what I mean) to police the Scotland-England Euro playoff football match. They were so obnoxious, so smug, so inflexible they were causing people to lose the place. And they were loving it! But they're not really cops so don't count.

So overall the review is two thumbs up!

husky03
05-01-08, 12:26 PM
I accept my flaws and don't tend to give any lip unless provoked, in which case, all guns come out blazing.

and the end result is you end up getting nicked due to your attitude-doesn't matter if the coppers a tube or not there's only going to be one winner and its gonna be the guy in the uniform-like it or not theres an attitude test and if you have a bad attitude(in the coppers opinion not your own) when being spoken to your leaving yourself wide open.
if you ever visit up here and get stopped best advice would be to keep Q;)

husky

Speedy Claire
05-01-08, 12:59 PM
My experiences have been mixed. Sometimes i`ve been unlucky and got the arrogant ones but on the whole i find if I act "humble" they`re quite amenable. I have been stopped for speeding on the bike a few times and let off just by having a bit of banter and grovelling, in the car i`ve not been so lucky!

stewie
05-01-08, 12:59 PM
My only recent experience with the police came when Kwak dropped his bike on the N Wales rideout, and contrary to popular belief not all N Wales coppers are *******s, they were great, more concerned for Kwaks welfare than checking bikes and riders , as an ex ambulance driver(a long time ago ) Ive been out to RTA,s and incidents with the police and seen what they have to put up with,I wouldnt do it, Im on there side.

kwak zzr
05-01-08, 01:12 PM
must agree with stewie, the cops were good there, mind you he was a personal friend of lissa's lol :)

metalmonkey
05-01-08, 01:17 PM
Kinda funny this thread has come up last, this one of the thing we talked about last night....

I do the best I can, alway act professionally you know how much I love my riding, well I'm into my job the same way.

Yes I do make mistakes, I human i'm still learning, what bothers me about this thread is that its seems the odd one that gives us a bad name. the truth be known I cant do my job without your help. I guess I do the job, wanting to make a differnce, change the world by help one person at a time. I want be a bike a cop as well, so for me it ties in everything togther.

Yeah in the past year I have had the odd nighmare and sleepless nights, buts what can you do? The Officer that died in Wembley, was part of my team, didn't know him that well, but its funel soon, not looking foward to it, last dead person I cared about was gran, not looking foward to it all.

In nicest possibaly way, I hope not be seapking with any of u whilst at work unless its at the ace. I want my work and personal life as far apart as possibale.

Those of you you that know me know what I'm like. Its a uniform, doesn't change who I am.

Speedy Claire
05-01-08, 02:13 PM
Sorry to hear bout your friend... sympathies to you and all his friends/colleagues and family.

It`s the same old story tho.... I think one or two spoil it for the vast majority. I think when it comes to the police the majority are going to remember the bad experiences and not the good and I know there`s plenty of nice, caring policemen and women like yourself out there.

I had a real good laugh last week... I was out in the car working and had a student nurse with me, we were stuck in a queue of traffic due to a "police incident". We were listening to the radio and Bee Gees "Night Fever" was playing, catchy tune and me and my student were having a bit of a bop in the car. 2 policemen walked up and started dancing in the road, was hilarious... i still smile thinkin bout it :D

sinbad
05-01-08, 02:32 PM
Never been pulled on bike or in the car, just careful/lucky I suppose. Only time they've ever done something that annoyed me was parked up at the top of a multi-storey car park. I'd returned to the car alone because the ticket was virtually run out and waited for my mate. What I later found out was an unmarked car cruised past several times with two scally looking coppers in it. I had a car full of shopping, xmas presents, good few hundred quids worth, and the idea that these guys were thinking about mugging me and possibly nicking my car occurred to me, and thought I'd rather not give them the chance. When I saw them coming around for the third time I had the engine running and pulled out, at which point they gave chase and put their lights on.
Took me 20 minutes+ to explain myself, they thought I was nicking it.........All because these idiots (I assume they are) don't have any imagination, it's a goddamn unmarked car!

That annoyed me.

Luckypants
05-01-08, 03:26 PM
My experiences have been mixed. Sometimes i`ve been unlucky and got the arrogant ones but on the whole i find if I act "humble" they`re quite amenable. I have been stopped for speeding on the bike a few times and let off just by having a bit of banter and grovelling, in the car i`ve not been so lucky!

Being a blonde girly helps though!

wheelnut
05-01-08, 04:22 PM
I have had 2 good and 2 bad experiences.

1st Good. It was 30 years ago and I was in the pub after hours. he told us to drink up and get off home then asked which way we were going. He told us to drive steady and went in the opposite direction:p

2nd Good. Driving my truck up through Epping Forest I was pulled over for speeding, he jumped in the cab and proceeded to make my life a misery with points and tachograph check, until he looked on the bunk and saw my crash helmet. He asked me about my bike, told me to watch my speed and let me off:)

1st Bad.
Young plod in a traffic car pulled me over while in the truck again, asked to check logbook and driving licence and went through all documents. He then said that I looked overloaded and had to follow him to a weighbridge. Before weighing he said that he had noticed that I was driving round a roundabout too fast when he saw me. I asked him exactly how fast, and he said well it looked very fast to me. I asked him how long he had been driving an HGV and he replied he never had. He then weighed the truck and found it was 4 tonne under its permitted gross weight. He spent ages looking for something then said the immortal words. OK, im going to let you off this time. I said I have a good mind to report you for wasting my time;) I got let off for doing nothing wrong.

2nd Bad.

I was arrested by 4 policemen for non payment of a small fine and at 6am in the morning was rudely awakened, handcuffed and taken to a cell in the local courts before the magistrates arrived. On the way to the police station, I asked for my arms to be freed but the coppers wouldnt take my handcuffs off, the driver of the car was watching this and went the wrong way down the motorway slip road meeting oncoming traffic. I shouted and called him some choice names. This was taken as a breach of the peace and I was warned and arrested while under arrest. At the station the copper told the desk sergeant what I had done and he wanted a statement from me.

I made a statement to the sergeant about my treatment and his driving and called him a pillock. The sergeant agreed and called him a pillock too. In court, for the non payment of a 150 quid fine I was given the chance to pay it at £10 per month, which is what I had asked for in the first court hearing.

Abuse of power by some police, common sense by others:nomore:

ASM-Forever
05-01-08, 05:10 PM
As others have already said, i've had a mixed bag experience wise. I've probably come across more decent feds, than idiots, but it doesn't seem like that in my mind.

Most of my negative experiences have been with either traffic/met cops. In my experience they seem to have a far higher percentage of tw@s in their ranks.

Also the royal protection officers around Windsor, always seem bored and likely to cause mischief. The amount of times i've been pulled in that area, for nothing at all, are beyond a joke. "Have i commited a moving traffic offence officer?"....."no we just want to do some checks"...."the same as last week then, do you guys not liaise with each other?"....confused look from policeman as they fail to grasp the concept.

The sort of policeman with a chip on the shoulder is the one that was probably bullied at school and that joined the force to gain some authority he could never have hoped to earn in the real world. :)

El Saxo
05-01-08, 05:27 PM
I've had more good experiences than bad - once I got pulled over on the M61 for going rather quickly, got a stern telling off and was sent on my way, no ticket.

Also the officers who attended my crash in the car early last year (colleagues of our very own Bluepete IIRC) were great, sorted us out calmly at the scene, moved my car out of harm's way and made sure everyone was ok, very nice blokes.

The only bad experience I've had was when I was on the way home from a night out, myself and a mate discovered that a shop where I used to work had been broken into - I was still friendly with the owner so went round the back etc hoping to catch whoever might still be in there while waiting for the police to turn up. When they did turn up they treated me like public enemy no.1 and were blatantly goading my mate into kicking off with them. When the owner turned up and vouched for me they let us go, but the male officer at the time was still giving my mate daggers as we walked away.

Oh and I almost forgot, I've been on a few rideouts / meets with BluePete now and he's a top fella! :wink:

Fizzy Fish
06-01-08, 11:46 AM
Have just remembered a couple of other Police encounters - one bad, but one good to balance it out.

Firstly the knob who polices Frith St, home to the Soho Massive. There are heaps of examples of his rubbishness, but on this particular occasion it was the first time i'd come across him and he asked us to move on as we were (as ever) parked on double yellows.

I had a brief and extremely polite conversation with him and said we'd leave straight away. He seemed quite reasonable, explained that he realised we weren't the ones casing the trouble, etc but he had to move us as there had been complaints about bikers. Everyone peacefully set to putting on lids and getting ready to ride off. But then all reasonableness went out of the window and he insisted on only letting us leave at 2 min intervals so we wouldn't 'ride around causing trouble'... :smt013

And the good? Back in my, ahem, younger days I got lost trying to get to a friend's house in London. I found myself walking down some alleyway in the middle of nowhere, then a cop car appeared and the guys asked if I was OK. I asked for directions, but they ended up offering me a lift to where I was going as it was a fair walk. Imagine the look on my mates' faces when i arrived in a cop car carrying all the goodies for the weekend in my pockets heheheh...

metalmonkey
06-01-08, 11:52 AM
Yeah cop at firth is a nob, he is a safer neighbourhood one as well, so I'm not for fact he has more important stuff be doing....

I was like to him, you don't worry about us, were not the problem, I'm same job as you ect....he was like, we you will the first to get a tickect next week then, grr what an *******. Its ones like that which are the problem!

DoubleD
06-01-08, 01:08 PM
My only recent experience with the police came when Kwak dropped his bike on the N Wales rideout, and contrary to popular belief not all N Wales coppers are *******s, they were great, more concerned for Kwaks welfare than checking bikes and riders , as an ex ambulance driver(a long time ago ) Ive been out to RTA,s and incidents with the police and seen what they have to put up with,I wouldnt do it, Im on there side.

must agree with stewie, the cops were good there, mind you he was a personal friend of lissa's lol :)

Have to agree, I think all the bikes had something to get given a ticket for, but they were just looking out for Kwak and catching up with Lissa :)

Ch00
06-01-08, 05:16 PM
I havent been stopped by the Police or "dealt" with but I do have lots of dealings with different Police departments some good some bad.

I think when all is said and done, there arnt enough cops on the streets, if there were maybe they would be a nicer as they wouldnt be racing about as much? Also we deal with 85% lowlife and 15% decent folk we get a hard time from everyone and we just cant win.

Maybe we could start a thread on the Staff at Currys and review them !!!

Speedy Claire
06-01-08, 05:23 PM
Being a blonde girly helps though!


An here was me thinking it was my natural charm and good humour! :D

Biker Biggles
06-01-08, 05:27 PM
Deal with plod all the time at work and most are very good.Now and again you get a prize d1ck,but aint that true of everywhere?
I think anyone who routinely deals with GBP(Great British Public)should be cut a fair bit of slack as constantly pandering to the lowest common denominator takes its toll on even the best.

Berlin
06-01-08, 06:01 PM
Lots (not a good thing) of good and bad.

When I was 16 I had a DT50 and we lived in the middle of northumberland. Basically, you needed transport to go anywhere. The local copper was called Neville and had ears to put Prince Charles to shame. Well Neville would stop me every single time he saw me and go through every single thing it was possible to do. The more people watching the more "thorough" he was. He even followed me into the school car park and checked me in front of all my school mates.
This went on for years and he never had anything to get me on. Eventually, it must have got to him because he ended up giving my Mother a ticket for driving through a 20 meter long red light that was around a hole in a stretch of road that is straight and flat for almost two miles... at 1 am in the morning! You could see what *wasn't* coming for miles. Just because she had the same name.
As I moved up through various bikes my average speed increased but he never ever got anything on me, despite years of trying. he must have stopped me over 60 times over the years. You have to admire his dedication. Shame he didn't put it to good use.

My mate used to ride a race tuned 1100 GSXR (it was his race bike but he left it registered) and he was able to get to work each day (through the middle of nowhere) at a not inconsiderable average speed. Neville was determined to catch him (in his 1100 Fiesta) and staked out his route for months. He would vary the route slightly each day and even if he passed Neville there was no possible way that he was ever going to catch him.

He died racing at Scarbrough on the same bike without ever being caught by Neville.

Getting stopped in the car is much worse, I find, than on the bike. I used to have a job that saw me driving all over the place in a company car. It was green. One Friday I was almost home after a 350 mile drive and a car pulled up behind me as I overtook a car doing about 75 on the A1. The driver behind me put it's full beam on and pulled right up to my bumper. I accellerated to pull in as quick as possible to let the idiot passsed and as soon as I hit 85, the blue lights came on.

When they stopped bme they seemed very happy about it. It turned out that they were playing "snooker" and green cars were hard to come by. So I was done as part of a game and I didn't have a leg to stand on. I was absolutely fuming when i found out and they were in no doubt about it. I let them know. They laughed at me and told me to get out of their car, £60 worse off.

On the other hand, in 1989 I was on my way home at 1 am and I was clocked going over a level crossing at 89.9mph, which was in a 30 limit. It was a strip town along a single road and it was always deserted so at that time in the morning there was no problem with winding it on a bit. Thankfully the gents in the police car waited until i had slowed down before doing me and I was done for 54.9mph instead. Cost me £130 and three points but it was a lot cheaper than the 89.9 would have been!

The best one of all was at Olivers Mount in the eary nineties. After you buy your ticket on the bigger meetings there's about 1/4 of a mile of straight to the car park. I set off along the length of it on the rear wheel only to have the Chief Inspector of North Yorkshire police jump out of the hedge in front of me with his hand up in the traditional "halt" position as I snicked it from second into third. I brought the front down and wend on the brakes as hard as I could and *just* stopped before wiping him out. He then launched into a tyrade of "Silly Boy" as all my mates arrived and jumped on him for being a bloody idiot. The road was closed on both sides and private so he had no right to do it. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen a police man do.

Of the several bikes I've had nicked the police were quite good about it. In fact they even let us know where the thieves lived when they recovered the bikes ;)

The last time I was stopped they were very good and were polite and courteous. I'd slid on a big pile of salt left on a haripin bend by the gritter slowing down to navigate the bend and actually crossed the white line in front of the policeman coming the other way. I was only doing 10mph but because I crossed the white line it looked like I was going a lot quicker. Once they'd seen the amount of salt on the road they were very good about it and actually cleared it up.

Generally I'd say it was about 50:50 good to bad, but the ones that are only out to generate income *really* get me irate. You see them driving back and forth between junctions on the motorways round here stopping speeder after speeder doing 85mph. It's purely a revenue collection session each time they do it.

Since the Proliferation of Speed cameras it's getting rarer and rarer to see the police on the roads and this means that if you don't drive anywhere there's speed cameras the chances of getting court are much reduced.

Given the choice of Speed cameras or police on the roads I'd rather have the latter because at least the police are only involved in revenue collection some of the time. The cameras do it 24/7.

Anyway, I digress.