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I'm ordering a chain and sprocket set from B&C as seems to be recommended most of the time on here.
Are there any specialist tools I need for the change?
Cheers
Jon
just a riviter splitter tool HG do them for £50 i think!
Also loosen your front sprocket before removing the chain! Put it in gear and put a peace of 4x2 through the wheel against the swing arm to stop it turning!
FlyinRegie
08-01-08, 06:42 AM
I used a disk saw as a splitter tool, a chisel and 800gr hammer as a riveter tool...didn't want to buy the tool, what of course would be clever.
Still, the chain works well for me.;)
Be careful doing the chain, as while it's not massively complicated it's easy to get riveting the link wrong. A chain failing while you're on the move can leave you stranded at best case, or smash your gearbox and leg to bits at worst so it's worth not bodging this one.
Buy a chain with a spring / split link and a rivet link. Change the chain and sprockets and then fit the spring link, this is easy to fit with a screwdriver and a pair of pliers, but is not as strong as a rivet link. Then gently ride down to your local bike shop and ask them to fit the rivet link for you in place of the spring link. They will do it properly, and charge you all of £5 - £10 for it.
Hmmmm interesting reply. I do value my leg and my gearbox so that sounds a pretty good idea.
Can all chains come with a Spring link. I was going to get the Tsubaki SV kit from b & c express. What sort of link would that come with.
When you phone up to order the chain ask if it comes with a spring link, if not you should be able to order one separately for next to nowt.
Some chains are also endless as in they are already a complete circle. This isn't a major issue but means you need to either fit it by removing the swing arm (neatly bypassing the whole riveting issue and replacing it with a "how do I remove the swing arm" one), or cut a link out of your new chain with an angle grinder. It can be less hassle to make sure the one you're ordering is a length of chain, not endless.
Not that removing your swing arm and greasing the linkages while you're in there is a bad idea, but it's a little more involved than you may have started planning for....
FlyinRegie
08-01-08, 12:13 PM
Yes, IT IS a possibility to make too strong or too weak link. Using riveting tool as well.
Checking the link every time before riding, lubricate the chain regularly, link looks normal, works ok for few k of miles..I mean for now, hope it will work about 15-20K miles, I installed Regina chain. And it also had a spring link.
yorkie_chris
08-01-08, 03:30 PM
IMO get an endless chain, take the swingarm out and lube the bearings. Suzuki put NOTHING in there of any use, with grease they'll last forever, without then they get expensive.
But its easy for me with an abba stand to use.
Otherwise I'd put a spring clip on and take it up to the local garage to get it rivetted.
Biker_Billy
08-01-08, 07:20 PM
I ordered my chain and sprockets from B & C a few months ago for the SV (this was after my chain parting company with the bike on the A38 btw!!), B & C said that they wont recommend a split link for the tsubaki chain that I ordered, and wouldnt supply me with one.
Whether this was a ploy to sell me a chain rivetter (which they did) I don't know...
Would be interested in how your conversation goes with them..
HTH....
Oh, btw, rivetting is an art (or I'm incompetent!!), took me 2 tries to get it right, and even then, I checked my chain the other day and onw of the O rings was missing, so I've had to do it all again!
With the benefit of hindsight, I would have got a split link (not from B & C though) and rode to a garage to get them to rivet it...
Is it impossible to change the chain without swingarm?
If the rear wheel is off and maybe one looses the shock can you get endless chain in to its right position?
Older and more experienced Honda men were claiming that you actually can change the chain without cutting the chain or taking the swingarm apart from the bike?
yorkie_chris
09-01-08, 09:34 PM
I'm not convinced its possible, as the chains actually round the swingarm.
Biker_Billy
09-01-08, 09:47 PM
Maybe its a Honda magic trick...like those guys who et 2 metal rings to interloop...?:rolleyes:
tomjones2
10-01-08, 10:50 AM
Is it impossible to change the chain without swingarm?
If the rear wheel is off and maybe one looses the shock can you get endless chain in to its right position?
Older and more experienced Honda men were claiming that you actually can change the chain without cutting the chain or taking the swingarm apart from the bike?
I think he was pulling your chain bud.....
Is it impossible to change the chain without swingarm?
If the rear wheel is off and maybe one looses the shock can you get endless chain in to its right position?
Older and more experienced Honda men were claiming that you actually can change the chain without cutting the chain or taking the swingarm apart from the bike?
The problem is it needs to pass above and below the swingarm pivot. There's no way round that on the SV I'm afraid.....
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