View Full Version : Hagon Progressive Fork Springs
Mike2165
08-01-08, 12:06 PM
Are the Hagon progressive fork springs as good as the Ohlin fork springs? And do I have to look for anything in particular when ordering? I might well have asked before, sorry, brain like a sieve
Oh we're doing this thread again :)
Lots of companies do fork springs, as long as it's roughly right for your weight you'll be fine, some people prefer linier springs, some prefer progressives, both people claim they're happy with them ;)
r4ce_e3nd
08-01-08, 03:30 PM
a 'spring' is a 'spring'. :rolleyes:
plowsie
08-01-08, 04:18 PM
Not like the idea of a Gixer front end Mike? If not, look on www.lm-spares.co.uk (http://www.lm-spares.co.uk) i have 10% discount if you wanna use that?
dizzyblonde
08-01-08, 04:24 PM
I got Ohlins ones in the black one. it came with them. Can't say I've really noticed if they're special or owt.They do the job. I got Hagon progressives to stick in the yellow one, no idea wot the difference is. I'm a lightweight girlie so what bearing this would have on the matter I've no idea either.
Not like the idea of a Gixer front end Mike? If not, look on www.lm-spares.co.uk (http://www.lm-spares.co.uk) i have 10% discount if you wanna use that?
On that site Hagon fork springs £78 + vat!! (inc oil)
I got mine last year from Hagons for approx £65 inc oil,delivery, and vat.
Just looked on Hagon's site but springs for sv 650 no longer listed.. mmmm ??
Normal price of their fork springs seems to be £55 a pair .. curious.. Have they just stoppped making them for sv's? Did LM's buy the job lot?
Give Hagons a bell?
SoulKiss
08-01-08, 04:55 PM
Linear or Progressive?
Just pic the ones you like the colour of (quote courtesy of Sid Squid)
I did, and while the Hyperpro Progressive fork springs were exactly the same colour as the Suzuki ones that came out I quite like them.
I did it as a kit with the rear, which is purple :)
SV650Racer
08-01-08, 05:55 PM
Road progressive if you take life slower...linear if your heavy and tend to take life a tad faster. Track - linear.
Road progressive if you take life slower...linear if your heavy and tend to take life a tad faster. Track - linear.
What about someone like me then, weigh 11 stone dripping wet in leathers but like to ride a bit quick? Progressive in one side and a linear in the other? ;)
SV650Racer
08-01-08, 06:15 PM
What about someone like me then, weigh 11 stone dripping wet in leathers but like to ride a bit quick? Progressive in one side and a linear in the other? ;)
LOL:smt026
thedonal
09-01-08, 01:28 PM
On that site Hagon fork springs £78 + vat!! (inc oil)
I got mine last year from Hagons for approx £65 inc oil,delivery, and vat.
Just looked on Hagon's site but springs for sv 650 no longer listed.. mmmm ??
Normal price of their fork springs seems to be £55 a pair .. curious.. Have they just stoppped making them for sv's? Did LM's buy the job lot?
Give Hagons a bell?
The Hagon site doesn't even list SV's for their fork springs at the mo- intobikes do though for £55 plus vat
http://www.intobikes.co.uk/products?detail=product&id=001109&vhlMake=0004&vhlModel=002420&src=fro
Racer- what if I like both fast and slow? I'd like something that does make a real difference on the corners/stopping but is suitable for 'relaxed' riding too- would linear be too firm for that?
a 'spring' is a 'spring'. :rolleyes:
Not so! :)
I was advised by Maxton that the use of progressive springs was not the way to go. As progressive springs are compressed the spring rate rises (obviously) but the damping in the forks doesn't. The more they are compressed the less relative damping you have and to the less well matched the springs are to the level of damping. The more they are compressed the more underdamped they become.
This is not so for linear springs.
How many top race teams, in any class, in any series, are curently using progressive springs in the for front ends?
No, I don't know of a single one either. :)
Carl
SV650Racer
09-01-08, 01:46 PM
The Hagon site doesn't even list SV's for their fork springs at the mo- intobikes do though for £55 plus vat
http://www.intobikes.co.uk/products?detail=product&id=001109&vhlMake=0004&vhlModel=002420&src=fro
Racer- what if I like both fast and slow? I'd like something that does make a real difference on the corners/stopping but is suitable for 'relaxed' riding too- would linear be too firm for that?
TBH Id recommend linear everytime.
One issue with progressives is that most bikes dont have enough travel to utilise them properly. The bike will be using the softer part of the spring the majority of the time and only the "heavier" part when on full travel which isnt ideal for the best setup.
Unless you really are happy just plodding around and dont weigh much at all and require that type of setup. End of the day everyone prefers something different and not one setup is perfect for another person. Mainly on the road its about compromise, getting the bike to cope with everything well rather than one thing really well.
Track is a totally different thing altogether and peoples differing styles stand out even more from what they require as a rider. My bike ran in European Superstocks with the South African supersport champion on board. He obviously is alot quicker than me and weighs the same. I use a heavier spring than him..not general rule of thumb which shows..there are basics..and then no set rules.
northwind
09-01-08, 02:06 PM
One issue with progressives is that most bikes dont have enough travel to utilise them properly.
This is exactly what Rich from Sonic Springs and Max from Traxxion Dynamics says too... I know **** all about springs but I know enough to listen to clever people who do ;)
I'ev always used linear, apparently I rode a bike with progressives once but to be honest, I didn't notice, I was too busy being annoyed at the damping.
dizzyblonde
09-01-08, 02:29 PM
oooooo dear so im ay not like my front end then when i put progs in the forks, ah but i'm 8 stone wet, so perhaps its a good thing for me. i poootle about but do the odd very long trip, still none the wiser
dizzyblonde
09-01-08, 02:32 PM
saying that, springs are far from my mind, Suzy appears to be very sick, springs aren't going to help a right lot
SV650Racer
09-01-08, 02:35 PM
oooooo dear so im ay not like my front end then when i put progs in the forks, ah but i'm 8 stone wet, so perhaps its a good thing for me. i poootle about but do the odd very long trip, still none the wiser
The key is to have something that works for you. :smt002
dizzyblonde
09-01-08, 02:49 PM
ohlins in black I like, standard boneshaker set up on the yellow I don't like, so pot luck on the new ones then
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