View Full Version : killing baby animals LIVE on tv
bbc3 now
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programmes/kill_it/
whats peoples thoughts on this?
Speedy Claire
09-01-08, 11:07 PM
Geez no... I couldn`t watch anything like that. Ok I put my hand up an admit I eat meat but am still against animal cruelty.
DoubleD
09-01-08, 11:21 PM
We all know it happens, thats how meat gets in the shops, some gory sceens but thats what happens.
I'll still be eating meat, if we wern't meant to eat meat it would not taste so good.
My better half will not watch it at all as she doesn't want to see it.
if we wern't meant to eat meat it would not taste so good.
i agree......
i dont see the point of slowing a calf getting its throat slit live on tv
nevermind ........ family guy is on now
DoubleD
09-01-08, 11:29 PM
baby lambs next time
Defender
10-01-08, 12:13 AM
Animals should be stunned before their throat is slit.
Sick and cruel :(
squirrel_hunter
10-01-08, 12:28 AM
I had a conversation about this very subject yesterday in work. I've not seen the program but understand from the trailers what is going on.
What it comes down to is the disassociation from what is bought in the supermarket and what runs around on a farm. I personally have no problems with any animal being slaughtered for food provided it is not subjected to excessive suffering. And I would have no problem what so ever in doing the job myself.
Having not seen the program can someone explain the aim of it, is it to stop people eating meat? Is it to do with animal welfare? Or is it just to educate the masses as to what happens in the real world?
Every time you eat meat, something has to die.
Defender
10-01-08, 07:02 AM
Every time you eat meat, something has to die.
I believe an animal should be allowed some quality of life before being killed, and that this should be done with respect for the animal.
gettin2dizzy
10-01-08, 07:53 AM
The program takes you through the whole animals life with emphasis on the slaughter. Inside a slaughterhouse they put a screen all the way down the middle so the public could walk along and see each stage in to process. After showing the animal and whereabouts it has come from; they walk it in and show you the kill, the draining of the blood, disembowelment, the skin being peeled off and the cutting in to specific cuts. After this there's a butcher who prepares the meat and a chef who cooks it for the public who just watched that animal be killed. The idea is that we have disassociated meat with an actual animal; and that we should understand the orgins of the meat and respect it. It's a rebellion against the common gorging (myself included) of expecting to eat meat every day.
It's a really good program; well worth a watch. Especially if it makes you squeamish as that's who it's aimed at educating!
the_lone_wolf
10-01-08, 08:17 AM
I believe an animal should be allowed some quality of life before being killed, and that this should be done with respect for the animal.
what he said, besides the fact that farming animals intensively means they tend to taste crap anyway, if you're going to kill something for food then do it as quickly as possible with the least amount of suffering
that said, i don't think seeing my food being prepared from little critter to steaks on my plate would put me off at all, i've shot ickle fluffy bunnies myself, watched them die, then being skinned, then enjoyed eating them, anyone who can't stand the reality of meat and yet eats it is surely being a bit hypocritical?
Ollie_07
10-01-08, 08:27 AM
Yep, what he said!
Very good program, i watched last years series too. Its interesting to know what goes on and how much more humanely the animals are supposedly treated here as opposed to around other parts of europe.
If you eat meat you should watch things like this to appreciate what time, skill and effort has gone into putting the meat into the nice packaging we see in supermarkets!
It also opens your eyes to new meats that you may not have tried before, for instance ive never had veal or suckling pig but would defo try them now :)
Haven't we always tried to dissassociate the meat we eat from the animal.
The more similar the animal is to us ie mammals, the greater the dissassociation is in the langauge we use. Pork, Beef, Mutton, Veal, Venison. Yet for Fish and Birds we tend to use the animal name.
I fail to see the need for a programme to be so graphic.
Haven't we always tried to dissassociate the meat we eat from the animal.
The more similar the animal is to us ie mammals, the greater the dissassociation is in the langauge we use. Pork, Beef, Mutton, Veal, Venison. Yet for Fish and Birds we tend to use the animal name.
I fail to see the need for a programme to be so graphic.
If there's nothing wrong with the processes used to provide meat for the table, there's certainly no reason why anyone should complain that people can be shown it.
Haven't we always tried to dissassociate the meat we eat from the animal.
The more similar the animal is to us ie mammals, the greater the dissassociation is in the langauge we use. Pork, Beef, Mutton, Veal, Venison. Yet for Fish and Birds we tend to use the animal name.
I fail to see the need for a programme to be so graphic.
Actions speak louder than words sometimes.
For people who don't even know where places like argentina, Dubai etc are in the world because of their ignorence, this will open their eyes.
Thing is, the British are happy to eat the meat, but don't want any part of knowing where it came from.
I must admit, its not something i'd want to watch, i love my animals, but then I also realise that meat IS meat, and below us in the food chain. Animals have, and always will be food. Its life. I watched a goats throat being slit on one of Michael Palins world trips (tibett mountines or something) and the goat was killed, drained, cooked and eaten there. You can't refuse, it would be rude to the tribe.
I think a goats throat was also slit on Long Way Down i remember. It made me like "ewww" but then how else are you meant to do it? Slip it a sleepy pill?
I feel, as long as the animal doesn't suffer, and has a good quality of life before being made to be my dinner.
fat_brstd
10-01-08, 01:01 PM
Its designed to turn more perfectly normal people into stinking hippies. Ive growen my own pigs from being diddy little babys up to full size animals and then slit there throats and eaten them. I happily go shooting for phesents, pigeons and rabbits and grew my own goose and duck for christmas dinner this year. I like meat, have no problem slauttering it and vehimently oppose vegetarians. I dont mind if you dont like the taste but not eating because of the "poor little animals" is rubbish as far as im concerned.
The object of the show to put on the spot as to do you want to eat this you heathen have just seen all the pain and suffering that deffensles little pet has gone through is just obscene. I remember when hugh fernly-whittingstall took those veggies and people who ate crap to his farm and made them shoot birds and learn how to prepare and then eat them left all of them being happy eating meat. It appears the object of this show is to make people scared of meat but then i cant say ive actually seen it but it will be on my download list as soon as i get home.
Every time you eat meat, something has to die.
yep. thems the breaks
missyburd
10-01-08, 01:19 PM
Actions speak louder than words sometimes.
I feel, as long as the animal doesn't suffer, and has a good quality of life before being made to be my dinner.
+1.
I don't think I'd particularly want to watch it, but I do think it would be very educational. People like to turn a blind eye to what happens 'behind the scenes' and if a programme like this is whats needed to open their eyes to the facts then so be it.
I like meat, have no problem slauttering it and vehimently oppose vegetarians. I dont mind if you dont like the taste but not eating because of the "poor little animals" is rubbish as far as im concerned.
I eat meat, I think totally banning it from the human diet is not healthy, we were designed to eat it and have done for years, but having lived with vegetarians and vegans I can see their point of view - it's up to them what they want to eat at the end of the day.
I remember when hugh fernly-whittingstall took those veggies and people who ate crap to his farm and made them shoot birds and learn how to prepare and then eat them left all of them being happy eating meat. It appears the object of this show is to make people scared of meat but then i cant say ive actually seen it but it will be on my download list as soon as i get home.
To my mind, the purpose of this show is not to put people off eating meat at all, but to highlight just how far removed the mechanical process that is meat farming for supermarket shelves really is from the sort of thing you highlight above.
vBulletin® , Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.