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For what I need, I also commute, hate windblast and the idea of a reliable bike where the seat is low/adjustable I kind of think that the CBF600S is the ideal bike for me (altho the SV looks much better). Has anyone else considered that one? or any views. I know it's boring, I ride a harley sportster so quite a few bikes are going to be boring after that, I love my bike, it's just not for me I think if I'm honest with myself.
Paul the 6th
16-01-08, 10:51 PM
listed mine on the trader about 5 days ago :) I really loved it as a first bike - however I originally wanted an SV when I first passed my test but decided I'd be better of with something a bit more learner friendly (the riding position on the SV felt too wierd).
Flawless bike to be honest, honda reliability, slightly quicker on straight than the sv as it's an inline 4 but only by a fraction. It is quite heavy (at around 220kg-ish i think) but because it has quite relaxed steering, is a doddle at low speed. If you've got any more questions, give me a shout :)
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/advert+search/N-0,Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146/advert.action?R=200802301579185&distance=1&postcode=WF14+9DX&channel=BIKES&make=&model=&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=
ASM-Forever
16-01-08, 10:52 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say that Hornets are boreing. I've been behind Dan(from the GM) as he got his knee down on a roundabout.........he seemed to be having fun!
If you hate windblast, then you might want to think again about a naked SV, Warthog is always telling me how bad it is on his.
You might want to look at the Fazer/ER6 as they also fall into a similar bracket.
, I ride a harley sportster so quite a few bikes are going to be boring after that, .
shouldent that mean every bike is going to be far more exciting!!! :rolleyes:
what about:
faired SV?? ER6F, versys??
Hornet has a tiny tank, u'll be filling up every day or so.
Consider a bandit. I had an SV before mine and as a commuter bike the Bandits far superiour. Better position, ABS, comfy seat, big fuel tank, 200+ miles....
Its great for the hack to work, and still fun enough to push hard on a B road.
Jools'SV Now
17-01-08, 08:02 PM
I don't think it's the hornet we're on about here, it's the dull cbf600s.
My Mrs test rode both and even she found the Honda too dull and boring - and it felt too big and heavy too.
She went for the SVs - only thing not quite right was the riding position when riding through London filtering - start stop stuff.
She'd have been better off with a naked for the commute......but wanted a fairing for longer stuff.
You get used to it but not ideal......and she can now open jars on her own, yay!
I see why you're thinking cbf - fairing and more upright position, bit like the fazer fz6 (engine too peaky) you pays your money and you takes your choice.
bandit is a good call.
My ex has a naked SV, her mum has a naked CBF600. When the ex rode the CBF she came back very disappointed with it, she reckons it is gutless and has zero character or soul. She says it's the ideal bike for a grey suit wearing accountant who wants to appear to be trendy.
STRAMASHER
18-01-08, 12:12 PM
I don't think it's the hornet we're on about here, it's the dull cbf600s.
My Mrs test rode both and even she found the Honda too dull and boring - and it felt too big and heavy too.
She went for the SVs - only thing not quite right was the riding position when riding through London filtering - start stop stuff.
She'd have been better off with a naked for the commute......but wanted a fairing for longer stuff.
You get used to it but not ideal......and she can now open jars on her own, yay!
I see why you're thinking cbf - fairing and more upright position, bit like the fazer fz6 (engine too peaky) you pays your money and you takes your choice.
bandit is a good call.
I understand when people say the SV-S riding position is/gets uncomfortable for commuting (city) and less forward vision, but the pay off is thinness. I'm sure those clip-ons are far narrower than the bars on the naked. I find it a great gap getter. (Not as good as an ol'BROS tho':cool: )
Had the use of an early CB600F Hornet for a while. Gorgeous looking bike . Fuel cap was not hinged, you have to hold it or put it somewhere (real retro!:rolleyes: :mad: ) that started to annoy. Need to rev the tits off it then its got some feeling of speed perched up their with no plastic, but it is smooth and less intimidating than the instant go from a SV. Was too big for my g/f so, no good as a 2nd bike. There is a half-faired version although not for the last 2 model variants.
CBF thingies? (250 and 500 exempt:smile:)
Why Honda suck.:D
I have read up about it a bit more, it's suppose to be v dull. I will have a sit on it (CBF600) but with its 40N torque or something only I'm probably going to find it too boring to ride too. My harley has got quite a lot of torque. I think I should stay with twins (also really like the sounds of a twin) or maybe the Street Triple. So at the moment it's either an SV650(n) or Street Triple. I will get a flyscreen with it.
markmoto
18-01-08, 12:54 PM
Ive had a hornet 600 and while it was a great bike in most respects i,e handling, speed luved to rev it was somehow very bland and often boring cant realy put my finger on why guess its just hondas excellent engineering but often souless approach.
dizzyblonde
18-01-08, 01:15 PM
i see you've been riding a fair while mrs.WOW, how long have you had the Harley? and have you had much of a go on a sporty number. I had a cruiser for a while and it felt rather odd going from
thinking about going round a corner in advance.
Getting on the front of the Sv was odd, because you just point and go.
i see you've been riding a fair while mrs.WOW, how long have you had the Harley? and have you had much of a go on a sporty number. I had a cruiser for a while and it felt rather odd going from
thinking about going round a corner in advance.
Getting on the front of the Sv was odd, because you just point and go.
I've been riding the harley for 1.5 yrs have done about 12000 miles. :D
A sporty number? Well the sportster is called a sporty but not sure if you mean that.
I had a Kawasaki W650 before the harley for 6 months, my first big bike, and it was a more sporty bike as in steering etc. You turned it, it went, not like the harley. Just found it a bit high and had gone off the looks and image.
You go round corners without thinking? Not sure I understand what you're saying. But maybe it will all become clear.
It's going to hurt selling my bike as it's just beautiful and sounds great but I do want something a bit more agile!
I was on a restricted licence till dec 07.
I don't think it's the hornet we're on about here, it's the dull cbf600s.
My Mrs test rode both and even she found the Honda too dull and boring - and it felt too big and heavy too.
You're right not the Hornet.
Another one who finds the CBF600 dull.
As said in another thread I think it's going to be between the SV650(N) and the Street Triple.
I have read up about it a bit more, it's suppose to be v dull. I will have a sit on it (CBF600) but with its 40N torque or something only I'm probably going to find it too boring to ride too. My harley has got quite a lot of torque. I think I should stay with twins (also really like the sounds of a twin) or maybe the Street Triple. So at the moment it's either an SV650(n) or Street Triple. I will get a flyscreen with it.
I've ridden the Street Triple, I really really rate it. Bags of torque, nice power delivery, great looks, brilliant handling, very good brakes, properly screwed together and an absolute hoot to ride. If I could afford one as well as a faired SV I'd more than likely buy one over the 1050 Speed Triple.
dizzyblonde
18-01-08, 04:16 PM
I've been riding the harley for 1.5 yrs have done about 12000 miles. :D
A sporty number? Well the sportster is called a sporty but not sure if you mean that.
I had a Kawasaki W650 before the harley for 6 months, my first big bike, and it was a more sporty bike as in steering etc. You turned it, it went, not like the harley. Just found it a bit high and had gone off the looks and image.
You go round corners without thinking? Not sure I understand what you're saying. But maybe it will all become clear.
It's going to hurt selling my bike as it's just beautiful and sounds great but I do want something a bit more agile!
I was on a restricted licence till dec 07.
sorry should have been more explanatory. Cruisers have to be 'steered' for want of a better word, thats what i meant when I said' thinking' before cornering. You don't 'steer' an Sv it jsut goes where its supposed to. I think cruisers are like driving buses round corners, I loved my little cruiser, never thought i'd get a 'sporty' number, like an SV. You know 'tits' down 'ar$$e' up so to speak....lol. The riding styles are soooo opposite.
Comfort was always first with me, so I nearly got a 'Drag-queen...sorry... star'. But when Im Indoors nearly got rid of Suze I jumped in and stole it off him!!!!
I'm glad i did because now i have got some nasty shoulder thing going on and
the SVs is a perfect set up for me, cause i can flop over the tank when my joints start aching. If I'd have got a cruiser I'd have been stuffed.
If you want oodles of torque low down on a bike with a low(ish) seat, the MT-03 Yamaha may be worth a look. Thay are slow compared to SVs top end but are a brilliant handling bike, great for powering out of the twisties. OK so there's no fairing, not a problem for me till you get to about 85 and certainly does not have the bling of a street triple. Maximum torque is at 5K, most similar capacity bikes have to rev there nuts off to maximum torque. I would suggest a test ride though as they are not everyones cup of tea. Just a thought. Oh and I'm a tad biased as I have one :cool: It supplememnts my gixer a treat.
If you want oodles of torque low down on a bike with a low(ish) seat, the MT-03 Yamaha may be worth a look. Thay are slow compared to SVs top end but are a brilliant handling bike, great for powering out of the twisties. OK so there's no fairing, not a problem for me till you get to about 85 and certainly does not have the bling of a street triple. Maximum torque is at 5K, most similar capacity bikes have to rev there nuts off to maximum torque. I would suggest a test ride though as they are not everyones cup of tea. Just a thought. Oh and I'm a tad biased as I have one :cool: It supplememnts my gixer a treat.
Yeah sat on the MT-03 a while ago and it is low and was v comfortable. It is lacking in power a bit (longer journeys) and there was too much plastic (think you call it carbon - I still have to get into the terminology it's all new to me this sporty bike malarky :D ). Not really a step up from the sportster.
sorry should have been more explanatory. Cruisers have to be 'steered' for want of a better word, thats what i meant when I said' thinking' before cornering. You don't 'steer' an Sv it jsut goes where its supposed to. I think cruisers are like driving buses round corners, I loved my little cruiser, never thought i'd get a 'sporty' number, like an SV. You know 'tits' down 'ar$$e' up so to speak....lol. The riding styles are soooo opposite.
Comfort was always first with me, so I nearly got a 'Drag-queen...sorry... star'. But when Im Indoors nearly got rid of Suze I jumped in and stole it off him!!!!
I'm glad i did because now i have got some nasty shoulder thing going on and
the SVs is a perfect set up for me, cause i can flop over the tank when my joints start aching. If I'd have got a cruiser I'd have been stuffed.
Yeah thought that's what you meant. All sounds good going through corners without having to push it through. To be honest can't see it happening yet the sportier-position but I do want a different and more agile bike (and light). Yeah i think it's a big misconception that cruisers are comfortable. They look it but they aren't. Going to sit on a few bikes tomorrow. :D
Yeah sat on the MT-03
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Not really a step up from the sportster.
I've ridden plenty of 125s that have been a step up from an 883 Sportster, and yes, I've ridden a couple of Sportsters too.
I've ridden plenty of 125s that have been a step up from an 883 Sportster, and yes, I've ridden a couple of Sportsters too.
Not going into that Lozzo. Let's keep it friendly.
dizzyblonde
18-01-08, 09:53 PM
Yeah thought that's what you meant. All sounds good going through corners without having to push it through. To be honest can't see it happening yet the sportier-position but I do want a different and more agile bike (and light). Yeah i think it's a big misconception that cruisers are comfortable. They look it but they aren't. Going to sit on a few bikes tomorrow. :D
well you know what some of the blokes say on here ' Sv its a girls bike' so proof you need to go get one.... lol
yorkie_chris
18-01-08, 10:01 PM
I ride a harley sportster so quite a few bikes are going to be boring after that,
Not the SV definately, can't really say about the CBF, plowsie would be the man to ask.
Had a go on an 883, and was ambivalent to it at best, better than a car, just. Then I had a go on the SV (first go on both), and despite needing a little TLC and some more air in the rear tyre I was :smt040
So at the moment it's either an SV650(n) or Street Triple. I will get a flyscreen with it.
I've Got an SV which i can heartily recommend as i love it but also tried a Street Triple which is a much more powerful, faster bike (and arguably better looking) but has the drawbacks that you'll have to buy a brand spanker or near enough new one whereas you can get a year or so old SV for Waaay cheaper. The Triple also has a waiting list (or it did when i looked end of last year) if you want a new one. The Triple feels like a very small light bike, even more tiny than the SV!
I'd just nip up and ride the both of 'em. If i had the choice it'd be the Triple but as i said i'm not regretting getting the SV at all and cant see that anyone would.
I've Got an SV which i can heartily recommend as i love it but also tried a Street Triple which is a much more powerful, faster bike (and arguably better looking) but has the drawbacks that you'll have to buy a brand spanker or near enough new one whereas you can get a year or so old SV for Waaay cheaper. The Triple also has a waiting list (or it did when i looked end of last year) if you want a new one. The Triple feels like a very small light bike, even more tiny than the SV!
I'd just nip up and ride the both of 'em. If i had the choice it'd be the Triple but as i said i'm not regretting getting the SV at all and cant see that anyone would.
That is a v helpful post Durbs. Even more tiny than the SV that doesn't sound good. Yeah that waiting list for the STreet Triple is a bit annoying. And I guess the Triumph parts are more expensive, they also seem to be speaking about the fenda extender, something I hadn't heard of before I joined this forum. As a retro bike fan I don't really like the naked look of a bike without a rear mudguard :smt104 I might want one.
I'm afraid can't just jump on them as legs are too short!
ArtyLady
18-01-08, 10:42 PM
Hi wow,
I had an old Guzzi as my first bike, cos the old man has always had old british bikes and Guzzis so whatever I got had to be a twin. Like you - I just love the sound - cant beat it :cool:
Then i did advanced training and was persuaded to get something newer. I ended up with a Bandit 600 - learned loads and my riding improved but really missed that V twin character and hated the IL4 revving thing :rolleyes: and I found it quite heavy too.
My DAS buddy Ping got herself an SVs and when I discovered they did them unfaired I got one and havent looked back since - its got everything I could possibly want and need - light, flickable, great fun but still with plenty of power (well enough for me anyway!)the right sound (with baffles out ;) )
hth
Even more tiny than the SV that doesn't sound good.
Not tiny in a bad way, the SV is a pretty light chuckable bike but the Triple felt even lighter and lower and also a lot comfier probably due to the higher bars and more upright riding position. I ride an SVS so maybe the nekkid SV has the same comfy position, i dont know. If you arent tall then either would be a good bet. either is going to be a shock after riding the cruiser though!
I'd recommend trying out an SVS too just to see if the sportier, lay across the tank position suits you though. I didnt like it all at first (i was used to crossers and my big Varadero) but after 5 mins of riding it began to make sense and i loved it.
Steve W
18-01-08, 11:51 PM
Got a naked SV when I got back into biking - thought it was great. Personally don't mind wind blast, liked the riding position (tried the S version and hated the a*rse in the air weight on wrists feeling) - and a fly screen would help reduce wind blast.
Certainly think you would find it more fun than the CBF600S and probably better value for money, although you need to keep right on top of cleaning the SV. Street Triple looks and feels great but more expensive than SV.
Have fun whatever you go for.
DON'T GET A CBF!!!!!
When my Kwak went back to the garage for some fixing they lent me one, and I described it at the time as the motorcycling equivalent of a pair of old, mis-shapen beige y-fronts. They do the job intended, but really don't inspire you to go for a ride...
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