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Anyone chosen between an ER-6 and an SV650(n)?
Maybe I should not dismiss this one, altho I think the kawasaki is more common than the the SV (I'm a terrible snob). It seems lower, pff.
Perhaps someone has testridden both?
dizzyblonde
18-01-08, 11:20 PM
ER-6 eugh
I did my DAS or an ER6n and really liked it. Found the inline twin similar in delivery and feel to the v-twin of the SV, but overall a bit heavier and solid. Of course the riding position is more upright than the SV (although I've never riden a naked)
injury_ian
18-01-08, 11:38 PM
to be honest, ER6 is a better modern SV, no so tuneful, but very good none the less.
the_lone_wolf
18-01-08, 11:40 PM
tigersaw has one, certainly sounds nice with a laser (i think) exhaust - like a huge single. the bars are far more upright and the pegs are more laid back than the ones on the SVS, so i guess it depends if you're after a commuter weapon or a sportsbike:)
ASM-Forever
19-01-08, 12:20 AM
depends if you're after a commuter weapon or a sports tourer:)
Corrected. HTH. :p
tigersaw
19-01-08, 12:43 AM
tigersaw has one, certainly sounds nice with a laser (i think) exhaust - like a huge single. Arrow exhaust :)
I went from SV650S to ER6F, frankly because the SV was so dammed uncomfortable for me. Personally I find the ER6 a better bike on all fronts, except performance, although thats marginal - more to do with the grin factor of the V twin. With hindsight, I should originally have bought the SV naked, I'm sure I would have got on with that so much better.
The ER6N and F feel just the same to ride, so test ride either.
the_lone_wolf
19-01-08, 01:08 AM
Corrected. HTH. :p
i was using the term to distinguish it from the kawasaki, which could also be called a sports-tourer, in fact, almost anything could be called a sports-tourer if it doesn't meet the unobtainable standards of the sunday afternoon romper-suited loonies, where anything less than a litre bike makes you a poofter;) - compared to the likes of the triumph sprint and other true sports-tourers, the SV has much lower bars, higher seat, higher pegs, not as much accommodation for luggage or pillion. just because it won't do warp nine doesn't make it more tourer than sport, and given the choice of a sprint or an SV to go touring round europe for a month, i know which riding position i would prefer...:p
northwind
19-01-08, 02:26 AM
Speak to Quedos, she had a silver curvy and chopped it in for an ER6...F I think. Nice bike I think. Though from what I've seen of the couple that I've come across, they're worse made than the SV- there's a ten thousand miler at my work that looks worse than my 8-year-old 35000 mile SV (well, in the parts of mine that are still original anyway :D)
northwind
19-01-08, 02:28 AM
Speak to Quedos, she had a silver curvy and chopped it in for an ER6...F I think. Nice bike I think. Though from what I've seen of the couple that I've come across, they're worse made than the SV- there's a ten thousand miler at my work that looks worse than my 8-year-old 35000 mile SV (well, in the parts of mine that are still original anyway :D) Frankly it damn well should be better, the SV's essentially nearly a decade old and Kawasaki learned its lessons well.
Frankly it damn well should be better, the SV's essentially nearly a decade old and Kawasaki learned its lessons well.
Guess there's not much difference between them. You are all comparing it with the Sports SV which is not the right comparison.
The latest model of the SV naked, just black not black seat see:
http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bike/sv650/k6/
looks really nice with it's black coated 'bits' sorry don't know technical terms, one is the swing arm.
Since I got into bikes and had to choose my frist one one of my friends asked me what do you like in a bike (this was when I had just passed my CBT) and I said I don't know it has to have a round headlight.
The SV has got that the ER-6 looks less retro.
Also there are quite a few ER-6 around here, I never see SVs. I'd rather have something less common.
Also not keen on plastic mirrors (er-6) and as far as i can see on the pictures the SV ones seem plastic.
But who knows which way it's going to go.
arenalife
19-01-08, 10:06 AM
I had an ER6F, great bike and engine and a fun ride. The fairing was good quality and it all fitted together really well. The fasteners did start to corrode, about the same as any other bike I've had though.
I only sold it because it didn't seem designed for a European male to fit on (read overweight), the fairing was incredibly turbulent which made dual carriageways and motorways a chore, even with the higher screen option. The seat was uncomfortable too. I really did like it though, and the design, just wish it was 10% bigger all round.
Might suit a female better...
Every ER6 I've seen on the road has looked scabby, which is pretty shocking when you consider none of them are very old.
I'll bet there isn't a lively ER6 online community like the SV's have either ;)
yorkie_chris
19-01-08, 10:36 AM
You are all comparing it with the Sports SV which is not the right comparison.
All a "sports" SV is, is a real SV with some cheap plastic screwed to it. Same animal.
All a "sports" SV is, is a real SV with some cheap plastic screwed to it. Same animal.
I've got two pointy SVs - one naked, one faired - they feel completely different to ride.
yorkie_chris
19-01-08, 10:41 AM
Oh I thought we were on about build quality
Steelman
19-01-08, 11:20 AM
All a "sports" SV is, is a real SV with some cheap plastic screwed to it. Same animal.
Hmmm! Not so cheap plastic, as a lot of owners have complained about when having to replace fairing panels :(
What's the list price for colour matched set, ?400 or so I seem to recall? That's why I bought a spare set from George White when they had a clearout last year (they may still have some?) - just hope that I don't need to use them :rolleyes:
the_lone_wolf
19-01-08, 11:23 AM
Hmmm! Not so cheap plastic, as a lot of owners have complained about when having to replace fairing panels :(
What's the list price for colour matched set, ?400 or so I seem to recall? That's why I bought a spare set from George White when they had a clearout last year (they may still have some?) - just hope that I don't need to use them :rolleyes:
yep, ?405 is the RRP for a pair of fairing panels...
so like you i have a cardboard box with george white written on the side in the garage;)
they won't have any left now, they bought a job lot of sport models for a training school who didn't want the extra plastic for obvious reasons...
Steelman
19-01-08, 11:39 AM
yep, ?405 is the RRP for a pair of fairing panels...
so like you i have a cardboard box with george white written on the side in the garage;)
they won't have any left now, they bought a job lot of sport models for a training school who didn't want the extra plastic for obvious reasons...
You're right :) I thought for a minute that it was you who posted the heads up on George White selling off the fairing sets half price, but checking back it was On Yer Bike - many thanks tho' for your posting at the time, it made me get off my a*** and order a set :thumright:
Cheers
Tim
Never ridden the ER6 but just wanted to say that around my way there are loads of SV's and I very rarely see an ER6. I think there are half a dozen SV's at my workplace alone and I'd say it is the most common bike there apart from maybe the same number of CBR600's.
I wouldn't base a buying decision on how common something is. Generally if it is common then that usually means it is a good product.
I think the naked SV looks a bit old fashioned compared to the naked ER6 although with fairings the SV looks more sporty than the faired ER6.
so like you i have a cardboard box with george white written on the side in the garage...
Would one of you kind gents who have George White boxes laying around consider flogging one to poor Durbs who is currently unfaired? Am sat here thumbing a pile of readies in anticipation.
the_lone_wolf
19-01-08, 12:02 PM
Would one of you kind gents who have George White boxes laying around consider flogging one to poor Durbs who is currently unfaired? Am sat here thumbing a pile of readies in anticipation.
sure thing
the cost?
One million dollars...
http://arbyte.us/blog_archive/2005/11/drevil_million_dollars.jpg
sorry, i couldn't resist...
One million dollars...
http://arbyte.us/blog_archive/2005/11/drevil_million_dollars.jpg
lol, thats still substantially cheaper than a set of lowers from a dealer though so its a deal.
sv-robo
19-01-08, 02:41 PM
my next door neighbour recently past his test and bought a black er6n.
nice enough bike,but i still prefer the sv for looks and performance,took it up to116 as he,s new to the bike thing and wanted to know some of its capabilities.
there was a bit more power left but there was a nasty crosswind so i slowed it down.
like i said the sv gets my vote,but then again i,m biased.
ASM-Forever
19-01-08, 02:43 PM
i was using the term to distinguish it from the kawasaki, which could also be called a sports-tourer, in fact, almost anything could be called a sports-tourer if it doesn't meet the unobtainable standards of the sunday afternoon romper-suited loonies, where anything less than a litre bike makes you a poofter;) - compared to the likes of the triumph sprint and other true sports-tourers, the SV has much lower bars, higher seat, higher pegs, not as much accommodation for luggage or pillion. just because it won't do warp nine doesn't make it more tourer than sport, and given the choice of a sprint or an SV to go touring round europe for a month, i know which riding position i would prefer...:p
;)
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:1ALPfxldOM077M:http://www.abdn.ac.uk/virtualmuseum/fetch_image.php%3Fdirectory%3D2875/medium/%26image%3Dimg0004.jpg
andywilson460
19-01-08, 07:12 PM
Did my DAS on the ER6n and it was a really lovely bike to ride. In many ways it would make the perfect commuter, very smooth, great seat (IMO) and decent gear change.
Having said that I was riding the BMW F650 last weekend, and was enjoying the upright position and lovely gearbox - then jumped back on the SV and remembered why I got it --- beautiful power delivery, and great fun. Couldn't stop smiling after 10 mins on the SV vs 3 hours on me old Beemer.
scarlett
20-01-08, 04:39 PM
I have test ridden the ER6 and really liked it, yet again good for confidence,fun, pokey and very comfortable, light and a very easy bike to ride, almost like putting on your favourite carpet slippers.
That said, to say they are not very old.... there are some scabby ones about. Also there is the frame cracking issue.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2007/July/july16-22/jul2007fracturesreportedonkawasakier6frames/?&R=EPI-92862
The only reason I didnt get one at the time....is because it was a very similar ride to the ER5 I had been riding for a few months and I wanted a different experience, so went for the SV650.... and I am really glad that I did.:D
Steelman
20-01-08, 04:45 PM
Would one of you kind gents who have George White boxes laying around consider flogging one to poor Durbs who is currently unfaired? Am sat here thumbing a pile of readies in anticipation.
Hi Durbs (are you from your namesake - I know it well, used to live north of there :cool:)
I think that Lone Wolf and I probably both bought the sets of lowers as 'insurance' against a spill, so were not 'hoarding for profit' :rolleyes:
What colour is your SV? If it is Euclase Silver (YDV), I might be persuaded to help you out (I'm not trying to dramatically raise the price by saying this :))
Trouble is, it would be s*d's law that as soon as I let you have them, I would need them myself :mad:
Where do you live?
Cheers
Tim
There are a couple of tests of SV vs ER6 on the net, just google SV ER6, The SV usually just wins on power, 2 or 3 ponies more, and better delivery, and also handling/suspension! shock. I don't think most people would notice the difference, so get the one you think looks best, or the cheapest, whatever your priorities
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