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wow
19-01-08, 09:45 AM
Just had the bright idea to phone the showroom before me and a friend set off to go and look at bikes. I asked if they had the naked SV650 in the showroom. The what? No we haven't got that one at the moment, just the faired one. Do you know when you get the new 08 models in. Hopefully next month. So on the ball these people, blimey.

When I spoke to the honda dealer earlier this week, they already have a launch night planned for 21 Feb for the new models.

Don't understand it.

shonadoll
19-01-08, 10:48 AM
Do they have a used bike section? Maybe they'd have one there?

I wasn't impressed with my dealer either-ended up going 90 miles away to get a better deal and better service.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 01:25 PM
To be perfectly honest, I have never heard much good said about any dealer in Scotland.

A few years ago I was seeing a girl from Larkhall (pretty rough town that), she always bought her bikes down south and had them serviced down here too. She reckoned it was cheaper and less hassle to ride 150 - 200 miles on a Friday morning and stay at a friend's house overnight to ride home Saturday, than put up with the bad service and extortionate costs Scottish dealers charged. Whenever she went looking for a new bike she found Scottish dealers offered next to nothing in px and wouldn't budge on new prices for a cash sale.

Pedrosa
19-01-08, 02:29 PM
Ah but this is all part of a cunning plan. The SV to be phaesd out later this year and so shrewd dealers begin to stockpile stock unbeknown to the public. Then when SV fans come rushing as the bike will soon no longer be available,a suitable killing will be made.

Remember where you read it first.:cool:

wow
19-01-08, 03:33 PM
Well I sat on one this morning and I was well impressed. It looks good and it wasn't too high, I never thought I could ride a bike with such a high seat, feet not fat on floor but it feels as light as a scooter that I can't see that to be a problem. Left foot is flat on floor when i tilt it to the left (traffic light situation).It felt so incredibly light couldn't believe it. It was an 08 model in anthracite colour (not as good as black). So why the other dealer didn't even know when the new ones were coming in I have no idea. Liked it a lot. Can't stand the idea of having to let go of my harley so might look at a second hand SV and have 2 bikes for a while to make up my mind. Still need to go and sit on street triple (again) and wouldn't mind trying the ducati monster altho don't fancy a few things to do with Ducatis and don't like the smaller tank. An ER-6 doesn't look as good.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 03:43 PM
Lucky the Ducati Monster owner will be along soon to tell you why he has the most inappropriate posting name ever.

I've never seen the attraction or fascination with Harleys, not even when I was a young impressionable teenager. They were always lardy and slow, and lacked good design and taste - all of this was confirmed when I first got to ride one, and reconfirmed every time I rode any others. All I could ever say that was good about them is that the paint on the bodywork is stunning for a production motorcycle, that's it.

When you buy a Harley, you buy a modern day antique that devalues. You pay 10,000 quid to the dealer, 2 grand of that buys the bike, the other 8 grand buys you into a lifestyle.

shonadoll
19-01-08, 03:56 PM
Well I sat on one this morning and I was well impressed. It looks good and it wasn't too high, I never thought I could ride a bike with such a high seat, feet not fat on floor but it feels as light as a scooter that I can't see that to be a problem. Left foot is flat on floor when i tilt it to the left (traffic light situation).It felt so incredibly light couldn't believe it. It was an 08 model in anthracite colour (not as good as black). So why the other dealer didn't even know when the new ones were coming in I have no idea. Liked it a lot. Can't stand the idea of having to let go of my harley so might look at a second hand SV and have 2 bikes for a while to make up my mind. Still need to go and sit on street triple (again) and wouldn't mind trying the ducati monster altho don't fancy a few things to do with Ducatis and don't like the smaller tank. An ER-6 doesn't look as good.

Yay! Thought you'd like it. I couldn't believe the weight of it either, so light, and easy to ride. I sat on a couple of Ducatis, but the Monster was more of a sporty position than the sv, surprisingly enough. I also veered away from them as they don't have a fab reputation, and was scared about using it in the cold and it letting me down.

I went to Dumfires to get my sv, they did the best deal and were the most helpful. Cupar suzuki and Perth weren't interested.

Defender
19-01-08, 04:03 PM
I never saw a new pointy SV650 naked before I bought mine. I saw the 1000cc, a few curvies and read and looked at a load of stuff on the net beforehand.

I suppose I took a gamble but it was the right one :)

wow
19-01-08, 04:05 PM
I've never seen the attraction or fascination with Harleys, not even when I was a young impressionable teenager. They were always lardy and slow, and lacked good design and taste - all of this was confirmed when I first got to ride one, and reconfirmed every time I rode any others. All I could ever say that was good about them is that the paint on the bodywork is stunning for a production motorcycle, that's it.

When you buy a Harley, you buy a modern day antique that devalues. You pay 10,000 quid to the dealer, 2 grand of that buys the bike, the other 8 grand buys you into a lifestyle.

You have your views. I'm not interested in them. As far as I can see from having been on this lovely forum for a few days no-one else is. Why keep slagging them off?

wow
19-01-08, 04:08 PM
Yay! Thought you'd like it. I couldn't believe the weight of it either, so light, and easy to ride. I sat on a couple of Ducatis, but the Monster was more of a sporty position than the sv, surprisingly enough. I also veered away from them as they don't have a fab reputation, and was scared about using it in the cold and it letting me down.


That's good to know about the Monster. Yeah i've heard about their reputation too.

ASM-Forever
19-01-08, 05:05 PM
You have your views. I'm not interested in them. As far as I can see from having been on this lovely forum for a few days no-one else is. Why keep slagging them off?

Lozzo is just offering his opinion. Its a forum....thats what peope do. I'm sure he doen't mean to cause offence!

I find him amusing. :p

laMon
19-01-08, 05:18 PM
if i manage to go on the Boxhill to Brighton rideout next week (only Sunday for me, so who knows), you can try mine out:D

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1027009073&context=set-72157601255280375&size=l

yorkie_chris
19-01-08, 05:19 PM
Can't stand the idea of having to let go of my harley so might look at a second hand SV

Miss the vibrations? :-P

You have your views. I'm not interested in them. As far as I can see from having been on this lovely forum for a few days no-one else is. Why keep slagging them off?

He's slagging them off because he doesn't like them, it's nothing personal :-D

Lozzo
19-01-08, 05:27 PM
You have your views. I'm not interested in them. As far as I can see from having been on this lovely forum for a few days no-one else is. Why keep slagging them off?

<shrugs>

I thought the whole point of forums such as this was to get other people's opinions and views before letting yourself in for something you'll regret.

My opinions have been gained over 30 years of riding, owning and spannering all manner of motorcycles, you may not like them but I'll express them anyway - I see it as a valuable service to society. If someone saves themselves grief and money from not buying something that is crap, then my work here is done.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 05:28 PM
Miss the vibrations? :-P



He's slagging them off because he doesn't like them, it's nothing personal :-D

"DING" - hit the nail on the head there, young Chris.

yorkie_chris
19-01-08, 05:29 PM
How long have you owned the harley for wow?

northwind
19-01-08, 05:43 PM
To be perfectly honest, I have never heard much good said about any dealer in Scotland.


Ducati Glasgow were 2nd in this year's Rider Power survey, Saltire Suzuki in Edinburgh came 5th, Perth Kwak were 11th... Not that it means an awful lot;)

TBH if I was a dealer I wouldn't fill floor space with an SV-N just now either, they never sold well even when the SV was in a market of one.

wow
19-01-08, 05:44 PM
<shrugs>

I thought the whole point of forums such as this was to get other people's opinions and views before letting yourself in for something you'll regret.

My opinions have been gained over 30 years of riding, owning and spannering all manner of motorcycles, you may not like them but I'll express them anyway - I see it as a valuable service to society. If someone saves themselves grief and money from not buying something that is crap, then my work here is done.

If you speak to my mechanic who hates anything japanese he will tell you the complete opposite.

yorkie_chris
19-01-08, 05:46 PM
He must have a tool fetish to want to collect every size of whitworth, UNF and AF spanner and thread tool :-P

wow
19-01-08, 05:47 PM
How long have you owned the harley for wow?

I do happen to own my harley yes, but I ride it as well. Have done 12000 miles in 1.5 yr and commute 20 miles a day.

Surprise hey.

Sorry to disappoint you that i don't fit into your stereo-typical category of a harley rider.

Now back to SVs as I can't do with anymore of this non-sense.

Plenty of friendly people on here.

yorkie_chris
19-01-08, 05:51 PM
Have done 12000 miles in 1.5 yr and commute 20 miles a day.

I would have expected you'd be used to the pi$$taking by now then :-P

I think you're on the right lines buying a used one, you can get them fairly cheap, I'd say the earlier the better as there's less complicated stuff on them, but I have a curvy, so I'm biased. Then you can decide where to go, wish I could insure 2 bikes so I'd have a spare in case of offs and such.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 06:02 PM
Ducati Glasgow were 2nd in this year's Rider Power survey, Saltire Suzuki in Edinburgh came 5th, Perth Kwak were 11th... Not that it means an awful lot;)

Really? Either they've really pulled their act together at Ducati Glasgow, or they're not the same folk who were there 6 years ago. I found them the rudest and most unhelpful dealer I've ever walked into. When I went in I desperately needed a new BT020 fitting to a ZZR1100 front wheel because I'd wrecked it on a deep pothole near Fort William. They weren't interested, just couldn't be bothered to even speak to me about it. When they finally did allow me to come to the service desk, they informed me that because it wasn't a Ducati and they'd have to rejig the tyre changing machine to suit, they would be charging me ?120 for the tyre and ?50 to fit and balance it. I informed them that I wasn't stupid, and had used tyre changers myself so there was no re-jigging of the machine to suit a Kawasaki wheel, whereupon I was told "it's ?170 or you don't get it done". At the time, a 120/70 BT020 front was about 75 to 80 quid in any English dealer

I took my business elsewhere, I won't be ripped off by anyone just because I appear keen to get a job sorted soon.

The Ride results are screwed though, they depend heavily on customers giving good reviews. You get happy customers sending in their good reviews to the magazine, so very few are likely to give a bad review because they can't be bothered.

I'm not being at all funny when I say this, but I am very surprised that Harley dealers don't get Ride mag results like this, because having done business with a few of them, they do offer fantastic back up and help to their customers.

TBH if I was a dealer I wouldn't fill floor space with an SV-N just now either, they never sold well even when the SV was in a market of one.

My local dealer always has a naked and an S in stock on the showroom floor. He reckons he sells as many naked ones as he does faired.

wow
19-01-08, 06:08 PM
<shrugs>

I thought the whole point of forums such as this was to get other people's opinions and views before letting yourself in for something you'll regret.

My opinions have been gained over 30 years of riding, owning and spannering all manner of motorcycles, you may not like them but I'll express them anyway - I see it as a valuable service to society. If someone saves themselves grief and money from not buying something that is crap, then my work here is done.

I would really appreciate it if you quote me again not to leave important words out.

My comment about 'your views' referred to your harley comments, which you've now admitted you don't like them.

And as far as I can see, we're on an SV-forum no-one else is interested as said before.

wow
19-01-08, 06:14 PM
if i manage to go on the Boxhill to Brighton rideout next week (only Sunday for me, so who knows), you can try mine out:D


Thanks, much appreciated. :D

shonadoll
19-01-08, 06:26 PM
I found Ducati Glasgow VERY helpful. I sat on loads, and they gave me a big photo of the actual bike I liked.

northwind
19-01-08, 06:40 PM
The Ride results are screwed though, they depend heavily on customers giving good reviews. You get happy customers sending in their good reviews to the magazine, so very few are likely to give a bad review because they can't be bothered.


That's pretty much the exact opposite of standard opinion on information gathering and surveys- people are generally more likely to complain than compliment in any survey which needs them to take the initiative. Negativity's the stronger opinion. Plus, the dealer survey is a small part of the larger survey, people don't fill in rider power just because they want to tell the world how great their local dealer is.

markmoto
19-01-08, 06:52 PM
I have owned a 1200 sportster and have riden several other harleys and its a matter of personal choice, i personaly like them on the right road at the right time and mood they are the perfect bike! just depends on what floats your boat, i have to say i wasnt impressed with their build quality and i do think they are over priced and you do pay for the name as opposed to the engineering.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 07:32 PM
I would really appreciate it if you quote me again not to leave important words out.

My comment about 'your views' referred to your harley comments, which you've now admitted you don't like them.

And as far as I can see, we're on an SV-forum no-one else is interested as said before.

I've quoted the whole of this post, just to reinforce that I've never snipped any of what you've posted in this thread, because you're implying I have somewhere. I'd be interested to see what text of yours you think I have omitted, and what relevance it might have had to your side of the discussion.

When I reply to a post I usually hit the 'Quote' button and snip out any non-relevant text, I certainly don't edit the original post for my own gain. In this thread, everything I've quoted has been quoted in full.

wow
19-01-08, 07:44 PM
I've quoted the whole of this post, just to reinforce that I've never snipped any of what you've posted in this thread, because you're implying I have somewhere. I'd be interested to see what text of yours you think I have omitted, and what relevance it might have had to your side of the discussion.

When I reply to a post I usually hit the 'Quote' button and snip out any non-relevant text, I certainly don't edit the original post for my own gain. In this thread, everything I've quoted has been quoted in full.

I do not have a side in your discussion.

I said that i wasn't interested in your views ie you trying to see if you can get me to start a discussion with you. I said thank you no to that. Go back and read for yourself.

You go an slag off Harleys to your heart's content. Guess on who it reflects badly?

jambo
19-01-08, 08:00 PM
I do not have a side in your discussion.

I said that i wasn't interested in your views ie you trying to see if you can get me to start a discussion with you. I said thank you no to that. Go back and read for yourself.

You go an slag off Harleys to your heart's content. Guess on who it reflects badly?

Chill Winston:mrgreen:

People have opinions on all sorts of things, I spent a cheery part of this afternoon changing the front sprocket on a Honda Hornet 600 2007. They don't attach their sprocket covers in a way that makes them easy to remove and I found it to be a pain in the bum... It's not enough to make me hate Honda but it was enough for a few choice mutterings.

If Lozzo doesn't like Harleys, he's entitled to that opinion, and he's free to express it. If you want to find a place where people all like Harleys a dedicated forum for that marque is a good bet. People like what they know, some people know Harleys inside out and love them, others know Kawasakis or Susukis and equally rate them above other manufacturers. Doesn't mean you have to take it personally, or that these people have no advice worth following, just that you don't agree on some things ;)


Peace and love

Jambo:cool:

northwind
19-01-08, 08:23 PM
I've quoted the whole of this post, just to reinforce that I've never snipped any of what you've posted in this thread, because you're implying I have somewhere. I'd be interested to see what text of yours you think I have omitted, and what relevance it might have had to your side of the discussion.

I think when you look at his response in context, in the original post, it's clear he's referring to your post about Harleys. TBH your first 2 posts in this thead were to spontaneously slag off Scottish dealerships (OP is in Sussex) and then to slag off Harleys just because he mentioned he had one, I can see why he'd maybe get a bit narked- it just seems like randomly slating his choice of bikes.

Though Wow, I think you need to step back, like Jambo says Lozzo is entitled to his opinion- if you don't like it feel free to argue with it, feel free to ignore it, but you can't tell him to shut up. And accusing Lozzo of misrepresenting your posts is a bit off IMO.

wow
19-01-08, 08:50 PM
OK I am completely at fault should have posted it in the SV forum where we talk about SVs only.

The first comment (lets not call it attack) was made yesterday in another thread).
Quote:
Originally Posted by wow http://forums.sv650.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=1390221#post1390221)
Yeah sat on the MT-03
<snip>
Not really a step up from the sportster.

Lozzo says: I've ridden plenty of 125s that have been a step up from an 883 Sportster, and yes, I've ridden a couple of Sportsters too. (end quote)

You all carry on thought I had found a friendly forum but I was wrong.

You imagine to be in my position. From now on everything what I'm going to say or ask I run the risk of getting slagged off about my harley or whatever. Nice position to be in huh. Game set and match you won.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 08:56 PM
I think when you look at his response in context, in the original post, it's clear he's referring to your post about Harleys. TBH your first 2 posts in this thead were to spontaneously slag off Scottish dealerships (OP is in Sussex) and then to slag off Harleys just because he mentioned he had one, I can see why he'd maybe get a bit narked- it just seems like randomly slating his choice of bikes.

Though Wow, I think you need to step back, like Jambo says Lozzo is entitled to his opinion- if you don't like it feel free to argue with it, feel free to ignore it, but you can't tell him to shut up. And accusing Lozzo of misrepresenting your posts is a bit off IMO.

Firstly, Wow is a 'she', as in female.

My experiences of Scottish dealerships have been mainly negative, and that's a view shared by many of my Scottish friends. I'm amazed they've managed to turn things around and start giving customers good service - well done to them.

Yeah, I can't stand Harleys, I make no secret of it. Wow came onto a forum asking for opinions, she got a bit more of an opinion than she expected and doesn't like it... <shrugs> tough, live with it. It's a free world and people have freedom of speech in the country I post from. If someone slates my choice of bike I just laugh at them and get on with it, because I know from experience what is best for me. Obviously her Sportster isn't that a good choice because she's looking to add a more rideable bike to her collection.

As Harley have less than 1% of the UK's new motorcycles market share I'd say I'm in the vast majority of people who don't like their products, so my slagging them off doesn't reflect badly on me, I'm just voicing a very commonly held opinion.

Anyway, enough of Harley talk, their bikes bore me so does discussing them seriously.

hovis
19-01-08, 08:58 PM
OK I am completely at fault should have posted it in the SV forum where we talk about SVs only.

The first comment (lets not call it attack) was made yesterday in another thread).

You all carry on thought I had found a friendly forum but I was wrong.

You imagine to be in my position. From now on everything what I'm going to say or ask I run the risk of getting slagged off about my harley or whatever. Nice position to be in huh. Game set and match you won.


calm down dear......... its only an opinion.

just cos someone dont like harleys theres no point getting up-set, i personal dont like then either.

you said your machanic dont like jap bikes, i do, but am not offened by his opinion

:cheers:

ja

wow
19-01-08, 09:01 PM
Firstly, Wow is a 'she', as in female.

My experiences of Scottish dealerships have been mainly negative, and that's a view shared by many of my Scottish friends. I'm amazed they've managed to turn things around and start giving customers good service - well done to them.

Yeah, I can't stand Harleys, I make no secret of it. Wow came onto a forum asking for opinions, she got a bit more of an opinion than she expected and doesn't like it... <shrugs> tough, live with it. It's a free world and people have freedom of speech in the country I post from. If someone slates my choice of bike I just laugh at them and get on with it, because I know from experience what is best for me. Obviously her Sportster isn't that a good choice because she's looking to add a more rideable bike to her collection.

As Harley have less than 1% of the UK's new motorcycles market share I'd say I'm in the vast majority of people who don't like their products, so my slagging them off doesn't reflect badly on me, I'm just voicing a very commonly held opinion.

Anyway, enough of Harley talk, their bikes bore me so does discussing them seriously.

It's ok Lozzo I have already admitted my defeat. I'm not going to be more insulted by your comments. I do not have another option than leaving this forum where freedom of speech includes slagging other people's bikes off.

wow
19-01-08, 09:05 PM
I am single as well, nice to attack me and would maybe have been nice to meet some of you.

fizzwheel
19-01-08, 09:06 PM
speech includes slagging other people's bikes off.

I ride a GSXR with a blue seat and a blue chain, imagine the amount of stick I get...

StreetHawk
19-01-08, 09:09 PM
TBH 'wow' has come on here to get feedback on a potential purchase..

I don't see where slagging of wow's Harley is relevant at all? If somebody doesn't like Harleys then why litter this thread with their grievances? Start a 'why I don't like Harleys' thread. There is having a joke about someones choice of bike and there is slagging it off completely. Quite a difference!

Don't jump ship yet wow, this is the best bike forum on the interweb! :-)

Lozzo
19-01-08, 09:11 PM
It's ok Lozzo I have already admitted my defeat. I'm not going to be more insulted by your comments. I do not have another option than leaving this forum where freedom of speech includes slagging other people's bikes off.


If you read through the forum posts you'll find there's a constant slagging off between curvy and pointy SV owners here - it's friendly banter, and Harley riders should get used to it because it happens absolutely everywhere except the Harley forums.

You'll need a thicker skin than the one you have if you're going to post to anywhere on the net, cos believe me, the little tickle you've had here is nothing compared to what I've seen Harley riders get elsewhere. This is the friendliest forum I have ever come across, and ok, I may be a bit abrasive at times, but just about everyone knows it and deals with it in their own way. Northwind puts me straight on stuff I got wrong, I accept it and we move on. I'll be the first to admit I am wrong, if I ever am, and apologise for it, I certainly don't try and dig my hole deeper by getting all defensive.

Chill out, buy a naked SV and settle in.

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:12 PM
It's ok Lozzo I have already admitted my defeat. I'm not going to be more insulted by your comments. I do not have another option than leaving this forum where freedom of speech includes slagging other people's bikes off.

Wow dont bugger off you will get alot of friendly advice here its one of the best forums around imo, dont take it to heart about your harley as i have already said i like them as do alot of people but alas they are not to everyones tastes, you have been ribbed abit about it but just shrug it off.

It would be a pity if you left the forum just because of this, come on boys leave her harley alone she loves it, get yourself your new bike and and join in some of the rideouts and you will have a great time ;)

wow
19-01-08, 09:16 PM
TBH 'wow' has come on here to get feedback on a potential purchase..

I don't see where slagging of wow's Harley is relevant at all? If somebody doesn't like Harleys then why litter this thread with their grievances? Start a 'why I don't like Harleys' thread. There is having a joke about someones choice of bike and there is slagging it off completely. Quite a difference!

Don't jump ship yet wow, this is the best bike forum on the interweb! :-)

This is where it started yesterday. 'Looking at other bikes too - CBF600'

The first comment (lets not call it attack) was made yesterday in another thread).
Quote:
Originally Posted by wow http://forums.sv650.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?p=1390221#post1390221)
Yeah sat on the MT-03
<snip>
Not really a step up from the sportster.

Lozzo says: I've ridden plenty of 125s that have been a step up from an 883 Sportster, and yes, I've ridden a couple of Sportsters too. (end quote)

to which I asked to keep it friendly and said i was not going to get into it.

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:19 PM
lets draw a line under it and get back to the original thread purpose :-)

wow
19-01-08, 09:20 PM
I'll be the first to admit I am wrong, if I ever am, and apologise for it

Here's your chance.

Unprovoked slagging off in the name of freedom of speech. I can tell you it isn't nice. What else can I expect from you, that's what I'm worried about, a future of being constantly reminded of my admission that i ride a harley. Every little thing i say will now be an opportunity for you to get in there. Hm, doesn't look good does it.

ASM-Forever
19-01-08, 09:20 PM
Shock horror....Nick15 defending a womans honour. ;) :p

IMHO this forum is all about banter/opinions/info and would be a worse place if it was any different. I don't agree with everything people post, but i certainly won't lose any sleep over it.

At the end of the day wow, its up to you whether you decide to stick around. However Nick's right...this is one of the best bike forums on the net. Its why i'm still here despite now owning a R6, which Lozzo also dislikes. :mrgreen:

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:21 PM
have you had a ride on an sv yet wow? if not why not :-) they are a great bike and sound awesome with a nice can, have a word with speedyclaire and ask her what she thinks of her sv ;-)

northwind
19-01-08, 09:22 PM
I dunno, I just don't see why every mention of a harley has to lead to the same predictable response. But Lozzo is one of the good ones, honest! This really is a good forum, I'd really say don't let a bad start put you off, and don't assume the worst of people. I understand why you'd take it the way you did but no offence was meant I'm sure.

I had a Virago 125- so Harleys are like race bikes to me :)

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:24 PM
I dunno, I just don't see why every mention of a harley has to lead to the same predictable response. But Lozzo is one of the good ones, honest! This really is a good forum, I'd really say don't let a bad start put you off, and don't assume the worst of people. I understand why you'd take it the way you did but no offence was meant I'm sure.

I had a Virago 125- so Harleys are like race bikes to me :)

:rolleyes:!!

Just kidding not getting started on that again :D

northwind
19-01-08, 09:27 PM
No, feel free, it was RUBBISH :smt101. But still kind of cool. 140 kilos wet and the centre of gravity was about 8 inches off the ground, lots of fun even on leather tyres.

Lozzo
19-01-08, 09:29 PM
Here's your chance.

Unprovoked slagging off in the name of freedom of speech. I can tell you it isn't nice. What else can I expect from you, that's what I'm worried about, a future of being constantly reminded of my admission that i ride a harley. Every little thing i say will now be an opportunity for you to get in there. Hm, doesn't look good does it.

I do apologise if you feel insulted, but I most certainly will not apologise for having or voicing an opinion.

You have my word I will never respond to any of your future posts with any mention of Harleys, even in a positive manner.

However, I do reserve the right to constantly call into question Northwind's sexuality, now he's admitted to once owning a Virago 125.

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:30 PM
Well im not afraid i like harleys!! say what you like when Vrods come down abit more in price il be havin me one :cool:

Lozzo
19-01-08, 09:32 PM
Well im not afraid i like harleys!! say what you like when Vrods come down abit more in price il be havin me one :cool:


Can I pick on you instead? :smt070

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:33 PM
However, I do reserve the right to constantly call into question Northwind's sexuality, now he's admitted to once owning a Virago 125.

:D:smt038

Ok this was wows post about looking for a new bike so lets give it her back unless she has left never to be seen again, kiss and make up you two :D

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:34 PM
Can I pick on you instead? :smt070

Bring it on!! :mrgreen::smt068:smt066

wow
19-01-08, 09:38 PM
I do apologise if you feel insulted, but I most certainly will not apologise for having or voicing an opinion.

You have my word I will never respond to any of your future posts with any mention of Harleys, even in a positive manner.

However, I do reserve the right to constantly call into question Northwind's sexuality, now he's admitted to once owning a Virago 125.

Thanks. It did seem a friendly forum. People have been v helpful in general.

markmoto
19-01-08, 09:39 PM
Thanks. It did seem a friendly forum. People have been v helpful in general.

It is and they will if they can :thumright:

northwind
19-01-08, 09:54 PM
However, I do reserve the right to constantly call into question Northwind's sexuality, now he's admitted to once owning a Virago 125.

I got better :thumright: The cure:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/Virago/2bikesfront2.jpg

Lozzo
19-01-08, 10:25 PM
I got better :thumright: The cure:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/Virago/2bikesfront2.jpg


SV, good choice for a newbie - and in black too, even better. :smt040