Stubbie'd my endcan.

[Richie]

Last weekemd I got a phone call from WRC63 who said "Do you remember what we talked about on Thursday ?"
"No" I replyed.
So apparentaly we said we would cut it down.

So saturday morn Dan (aka WRC63) came round to do some cutting.

Looks a bit too Long IMHO
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5251/stubbiedu5.jpg

can you spot the dent?
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1876/stubbie1bd2.jpg

No going back now
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1979/stubbie2ve1.jpg


Drilling for the new pop rivits.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2299/stubbie4sf2.jpg

Thirsty work this... we chopped off 18.3 cm.
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8703/stubbie5az4.jpg


Finished result... very aesthetically pleasing to the eye...
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6522/stubbie18sf0.jpg



Sounds sweet too....video... (http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stubby12oj9.flv)

[sv-robo]

oh yes,looks miles better and sounds sweet:thumbsup:

[Bluepete]

Nice work! Sounds like it'll give Pete'n'Lissa's a run for it's money!

[petevtwin650]

Very Sweeeeet.

Looks so much better than that Longy. :)

Does it sound much louder?

[petevtwin650]

Nice work! Sounds like it'll give Pete'n'Lissa's a run for it's money!

Damnit!

Just as well it's fitted to pointy otherwise it might well win on looks! :smt043

[Wideboy]

NICE!! :smt077

[andyb]

I was just about to create a post asking how to do this. Is it just a case of cutting through the whole lot or should you take the end plate off then cut through each bit separately? Did you buy a new 'band' to rivet the end back on or make use of the old one?

[Richie]

I was just about to create a post asking how to do this. Is it just a case of cutting through the whole lot YES...

or should you take the end plate off then cut through each bit separately?
NO

Did you buy a new 'band' to rivet the end back on or make use of the old one? used the old one. as it has no wrighting on it ;-)

getting the endcap back in was a nightmere...

[andyb]

Cheers Richie. Looks like I have a project for next weekend! :) Do you happen to know whether it will make it an MOT fail just by making it stubby?

[Lissa]

Very sexy, Richie!




And the stubby isn't bad either!:D

[Lissa]

Cheers Richie. Looks like I have a project for next weekend! :) Do you happen to know whether it will make it an MOT fail just by making it stubby?

It's not the size that matters.................for once:D

It's whether they consider it too loud. Ours passed.

[Richie]

It's not the size that matters.................for once:D

It's whether they consider it too loud. Ours passed.

Cheers Richie. Looks like I have a project for next weekend! :) Do you happen to know whether it will make it an MOT fail just by making it stubby?

As Lissa said.
I dought it very much... unless you take it to a very analy retentive MOT inpector.

[andyb]

It's whether they consider it too loud. Ours passed.

From what I've heard about the noise yours makes thats a miracle!!!

[Richie]

Very Sweeeeet.

Looks so much better than that Longy. :)

Does it sound much louder?

It's quite rude... shall we say...
I had to put the baffel back in as it was as loud without it in as it was with no end can fitted at all.
:smt096

[Wideboy]

[/color]

getting the endcap back in was a nightmere...

how so?

Cheers Richie. Looks like I have a project for next weekend! :) Do you happen to know whether it will make it an MOT fail just by making it stubby?

+1 :D

if it were a MOT failier just slip the original can back on, if you have it

[Lissa]

From what I've heard about the noise yours makes thats a miracle!!!

Just a sensible tester, that's all. Obviously a believer that loud cans save lives:D

[ThEGr33k]

Does yours have a baffle insert on it richie? Im just wondering if it does what effect it has putting it in... :rolleyes:

[Richie]

how so?





its an oval endcan not round so it was a bit out of shape...
we cut a few V notches in the endcap and finally got it home.
ps. point to note... don't push it in too far as extraction can become difficult :smt021

[Wideboy]

i see, i am considering doing this along with a custom under tray

[Richie]

Does yours have a baffle insert on it richie? Im just wondering if it does what effect it has putting it in... :rolleyes:

It's quite rude... shall we say...
I had to put the baffel back in as it was as loud without it in as it was with no end can fitted at all.
:smt096

[ThEGr33k]

Dang. :p

[plowsie]

Is it smaller than my old one?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/plowsie/IMG_0433.jpg

[Stig]

Tis sweet looking is that. I have to say, sinse doing mine I am very much a fan of the stubby can. Loud AND brutal. :cool:

[Razor]

Very nice Richie!

[Razor]

Is it smaller than my old one?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/plowsie/IMG_0433.jpg

What do you mean old one?
Did I miss a thread where you killed this bike?

[plowsie]

No you missed a thread where i sold it to Saeed and got the CBR...

You posted on the CBR thread lol.

[Razor]

No you missed a thread where i sold it to Saeed and got the CBR...

You posted on the CBR thread lol.

I did? I do take a lot of meds tho...

Derail over :fish:

[Wideboy]

really tempted to go out and do this now :smt096

[yorkie_chris]

Does yours have a baffle insert on it richie? Im just wondering if it does what effect it has putting it in... :rolleyes:

My cut down fuel can still has provision for a baffle, it does the same job, makes it fairly quiet.

Revved mine earlier to get up my rather steep drive, heard a clatter, and a couple of biscuit tins on the workbench were on the other side of the garage. Cool :-D

[Lissa]

Could make any future Hardy Bikers Rideout interesting...................earth tremors in the Lake District:D

[Wideboy]

yorkie don't suppose you could PM the length of yours (ooh eerr:)) as i want to be a copy cat plz plz plz :D

[plowsie]

Wish i still had mine now to show ya's :( I can confirm that they are bloody loud!

[yorkie_chris]

yorkie don't suppose you could PM the length of yours (ooh eerr:)) as i want to be a copy cat plz plz plz :D

I'm sure missYC will tell you its about 13" :-P

[Wideboy]

I'm sure missYC will tell you its about 13" :-P

i will make mine smaller :smt019........ oh wait............ damn:mad:




cheers matey :smt096

[Sean_C]

I've been thinking of doing this to my micron. As far as I can tell, I don't have a removable baffle, or if I do, it was long gone by the time I got the bike.. So I'm a bit worried about cutting off a few inches and having it too loud and not being able to do anything about it :confused:

[Lissa]

I'm sure missYC will tell you its about 13" :-P

Just measured ours...................9":p

[markmoto]

I did this to my sv1000 cans!! isnt stainless a bitch to drill :-) like you say getting the ends back in and the straps around the end with the new stainless rivets in is a pain, it sounds evil with the baffles out :smt096

[Sean_C]

Just gone and had a look at mine.. here's a couple of pics. To me (and I don't know a thing ;)) it looks like a bit too much work to cut this down, or is it doable?

It screws in from the end, not on the sides of the can itself.

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/1/20/f_Image040m_e014ab5.jpg




http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/4/1/20/f_Image042m_a4aec83.jpg

What say you? :rolleyes:

[missyburd]

I'm sure missYC will tell you its about 13" :-P

heehee that made me chuckle

[Lissa]

Just gone and had a look at mine.. here's a couple of pics. To me (and I don't know a thing ;)) it looks like a bit too much work to cut this down, or is it doable?

It screws in from the end, not on the sides of the can itself.

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/1/20/f_Image040m_e014ab5.jpg




http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/4/1/20/f_Image042m_a4aec83.jpg

What say you? :rolleyes:

That looks like it would be more difficult, purely because of the way the end fits.:(

[Wideboy]

do the bolts run the whole length, last exhaust i had like that was me race pipe on ye'ol moped

[dizzyblonde]

ere richie is that link pipe as hi as mine on the black? I don't want standard height on Suze, but don't want it as hi as Dave, cause I want to keep tha pegs...

[Sean_C]

That looks like it would be more difficult, purely because of the way the end fits.:(

:mad:

Bolts are about 15mm long.

:smt085

[Lissa]

Also, it's a nice can, and not a cheap one. Would be a shame to cut it, I think.

Maybe look for a cheap one on e bay, and cut that down. Then if it doesn't work, you haven't ruined your good one.

We do just happen to have a stainless steel ART can in our spare room:D

[aarond]

Hmmm... now i have a problem to cut my existing fuel exhaust down or to save up for a scorpion extreme stubby, what to do what to do?

[Davie]

:cool:

[Richie]

We do just happen to have a stainless steel ART can in our spare room:D


Thats is what mine is.

[Richie]

ere richie is that link pipe as hi as mine on the black? I don't want standard height on Suze, but don't want it as hi as Dave, cause I want to keep tha pegs...
its a remus high level link pipe.
and I did a mod which lets you keep the pegs too.
will try and find it.

Got it here (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=62704&highlight=high+level)

[dizzyblonde]

cheers richie. the scorpion hi one on dave is soooooo hi i can only just get the bungee hooks on the hooks on the subframe, a right farce for touring. and scratchin my plastics. Fancied ptting the Art can on suze that bit higher, but not that hi...lol

[aarond]

So how much should i cut off my fuel oval can? Anyone else done it to a fuel exhaust (any pics) or do people think i should just wait and get the scorpion street extreme? thanks Aaron

[Richie]

So how much should i cut off my fuel oval can? Anyone else done it to a fuel exhaust (any pics) or do people think i should just wait and get the scorpion street extreme? thanks Aaron

We used this formula.

Area of Primary Pipe = RPM ? Cylinder Size ?649cc

This determines the pipe's cross-sectional area, from which we can calculate the ID. Typical exhaust pipes are 18ga. (wall thickness of .049”), so the OD will be .098” larger. From this we can construct a formula for an 8 cylinder motor, and factor in the 18ga. wall thickness:

Area of Primary Pipe = RPM ? Motor Size ? 705,600

Pipe ID2 = RPM ? Motor Size ? 705,600 ? .7854

Pipe ID2 = RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177

ID = (RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177).5

OD = (RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177).5 + .098”

then divided by 4 to make it a V-twin....
then cut off to what looked good.

[dizzyblonde]

So how much should i cut off my fuel oval can? Anyone else done it to a fuel exhaust (any pics) or do people think i should just wait and get the scorpion street extreme? thanks Aaron


speak to yorkiechris, he's just done it to his and after this weekend I'm rather deaf!! he did rather a good job on it too,




and rather annoyed cause it were louder than my scorpion..lol

[Sean_C]

We used this formula.

Area of Primary Pipe = RPM ? Cylinder Size ?649cc

This determines the pipe's cross-sectional area, from which we can calculate the ID. Typical exhaust pipes are 18ga. (wall thickness of .049”), so the OD will be .098” larger. From this we can construct a formula for an 8 cylinder motor, and factor in the 18ga. wall thickness:

Area of Primary Pipe = RPM ? Motor Size ? 705,600

Pipe ID2 = RPM ? Motor Size ? 705,600 ? .7854

Pipe ID2 = RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177

ID = (RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177).5

OD = (RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177).5 + .098”

then divided by 4 to make it a V-twin....
then cut off to what looked good..

:scratch:

[Richie]

last line....

[aarond]

last line....
LOL and thanks dizzyblonde pm sent to yorkiechris

[Sean_C]

Sounds about right, heheh.

Sounds bloody good btw Richie ;)

[yorkie_chris]

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=102257&highlight=exhaust+tweaking

Search function dudes :-P

[SV-CHEF]

LISA

Do u stil have that art can in ur spare room
Im after a new can wondering if it was for sale????
n how much ud want for it

Thanks LISA

[cuffy]

Nice job there Richie, looks the dogs danglies, i was toying with the idea to do that with the Triumph, but further investigation by some more technically apt people than myself said it'd probably run a whole lot richer/leaner and would have to start remapping the engine...too much hassle in my eyes :(
Is this also the case on the SV or will it run different as it has 2 less pots?

[K]

We used this formula.

Area of Primary Pipe = RPM ? Cylinder Size ?649cc

This determines the pipe's cross-sectional area, from which we can calculate the ID. Typical exhaust pipes are 18ga. (wall thickness of .049?), so the OD will be .098? larger. From this we can construct a formula for an 8 cylinder motor, and factor in the 18ga. wall thickness:

Area of Primary Pipe = RPM ? Motor Size ? 705,600

Pipe ID2 = RPM ? Motor Size ? 705,600 ? .7854

Pipe ID2 = RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177

ID = (RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177).5

OD = (RPM ? Motor Size ? 554,177).5 + .098?

then divided by 4 to make it a V-twin....
then cut off to what looked good.

Ahhh, good ol' Army precision engineering at work. ;)

[Richie]

Nice job there Richie, looks the dogs danglies, i was toying with the idea to do that with the Triumph, but further investigation by some more technically apt people than myself said it'd probably run a whole lot richer/leaner and would have to start remapping the engine...too much hassle in my eyes :(
Is this also the case on the SV or will it run different as it has 2 less pots?

did a search thingy and found this from Raf (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=102947&highlight=standard+exhaust)...
Right let's get things pointed out correctly here about end cans on the SV:

1) No it doesn't add power to your bike. The standard exhaust doesn't restrict the engine so all you get is a different engine noise. You don't have to remap the ECU or rejet the carbs if you are only fitting an end can.
2) Yes you have to cut the downpipe to do it. Make sure that the can is for your model of bike (curvy or pointy).
3) Be aware that you can is road legal or not. There are implications if it is not road legal. There is plenty of talk about it on the forum, use the search function.
4) You MUST tell your insurance company, not telling them might (or probably will) make you insurance null and void. However since it's an SV you can tell them that the can is NOT a performance enhancing can, most insurance companies don't charge extra for that. But they will ask if the can is road legal or not and can get quite arsey about it.
5) USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION. This topic is well covered on the forum.

That is all....

[yorkie_chris]

I'm not convinced the standard exhaust is not restrictive, mine picked up a bit of a flat spot when fitting a normal can. Where did the extra gas go?

IMO it's just not that massive a change, so usually no rejetting is needed

[Dan]

Looks like a quality job that.

I'm going to have to take another couple of inches off mine now, can't have you being the loudest bike in the 'Lane.

[Richie]

Looks like a quality job that.

I had a good quality labourer...:smt064 ;)





ps
We'll get into trouble with the neighbours you know..!

[Lissa]

LISA

Do u stil have that art can in ur spare room
Im after a new can wondering if it was for sale????
n how much ud want for it

Thanks LISA

The can is provisionally sold, sorry Hun.

[Dan]

We'll get into trouble with the neighbours you know..!

Ah, what's that soft sh??e gonna do? 40 years old etc etc...

F**kin Spongebob :D

/Rerail.

[aarond]

really want to do this to my fuel can now but my bike is going in for its MOT on Thursday and would be gutted if it failed because it was too loud now

[Dan]

really want to do this to my fuel can now but my bike is going in for its MOT on Thursday and would be gutted if it failed because it was too loud now

So that'll be Saturday's job then?

[Richie]

Ah, what's that soft sh??e gonna do? 40 years old etc etc...

F**kin Spongebob :D

/Rerail.

Your a bad bad man... but it was bloody funny.:smt107;)

[aarond]

So that'll be Saturday's job then?

more than likely if i can wait until then that is!!:)

[Wideboy]

more than likely if i can wait until then that is!!:)

i feel the same but i need the bike Friday and Monday so i can't balls it up :rolleyes:

[amarko5]

Finished result... very aesthetically pleasing to the eye...
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6522/stubbie18sf0.jpg



Sounds sweet too....video... (http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stubby12oj9.flv)



COPYCAT


:p:p:p

[DoubleD]

Thats looking good Richie

[Richie]

COPYCAT


:p:p:p

what can I say " You Inspire Me "

[Bluepete]

what can I say " You arouse Me "


:shock:

[amarko5]

:shock:

now don't you start ;)

psst " remember i have the pics of you sitting eating face to face on a bench"

[Bluepete]

He he he he he he!

[yorkie_chris]

See I chop my can down a bit, the next thing every f###ers at it! :p

[Bluepete]

At least we did ours 'cos they needed tidying up eh Chris? Not like these image is everything types!

[yorkie_chris]

Lol, aye :-D

[Dave The Rave]

Should have been a brain surgeon m8. Very tidy work!

[Bluepete]

now don't you start ;)

psst " remember i have the pics of you sitting eating face to face on a bench"

This one? :cheers:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/conker51/Image00013.jpg

[aarond]

so those that have shortened their cans what change does it have to the sound is it just louder or does it change the exhaust note thanks

[colinsv25]

nice job there mate sounds awesome aswell

[Bluepete]

so those that have shortened their cans what change does it have to the sound is it just louder or does it change the exhaust note thanks

Bit louder, bit deeper and I can hear more "V Twin" sound. Try listening to these vids,

Before stubby

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/conker51/Bike%20cam/th_Bikecam.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/conker51/Bike%20cam/?action=view&current=Bikecam.flv)

After

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/conker51/ride/th_Ride1.jpg (http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/conker51/ride/?action=view&current=Ride1.flv)

[aarond]

thanks bluepete really tempted to do this now sounds great

[Richie]

At least we did ours 'cos they needed tidying up eh Chris? Not like these image is everything types!

Oi, I herd that...! ;)

[Bluepete]

Only through one ear though!

I said, only through one ear!

yes,


ear,


that's right,


one ear love.

Sorry mate, in a strange mood tonight! ;)

[timwilky]

Bloody heck mate.

You let Dan help you!!!!. No manual for him to read this time, as in be careful it says that it is a left hand thread etc.

Once bitten etc.

[aarond]

any tips on removing the end cap? it is a fuel oval can all rivets are out but cant get the bottom end cap of the exhaust

[Wideboy]

i think they are have some instant gasket on something on them although im not sure,

gently clamp it in the vice and give it a tug see if it will move at all

EDIT put a rag around it so you don't scratch it

[aarond]

tried that so far not budging

[Wideboy]

tried that so far not budging

strange, got a heat gun? try heating it up then try it in the vice and tugging it again, thats what i did with the baffle and it slid right out




if that fails wait for yorkie_chris his is a fuel can

[aarond]

ok job done now mold grips clamped round inlet then put tube through exhaust and hit them it came out

[Wideboy]

good i will try that aswell :lol:

[aarond]

good luck hope you understood my description well enough!

[Wideboy]

yep clamp on molgrips to end put pole in other end onto the grips and hit with hammer? :scratch:

[aarond]

you got it lol, maybe im not as bad at explaining stuff as i first thought! N.b. i has someone hold the exhaust but you could always clamp it into vice to keep it steady!

[Wideboy]

will probably do it at weekend, unsure how it will look not being a high level

[amarko5]

This one? :cheers:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/conker51/Image00013.jpg

yeah but mine is the one where you have that big plate of spagetti and the string going from mouth to mouth :smt046



















amazing what photoshop can do :smt114