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ThEGr33k
21-01-08, 11:38 PM
An Aprilia Falco.
http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/000/d0/6e/96bc_3.JPG
Ill post some more pics as soon as I get the bad lad home. :D:D:D
maultin
21-01-08, 11:53 PM
very nice - gonna have to loose the std end cans though
STRAMASHER
22-01-08, 08:06 AM
Not seen those colours before.
Lovely. Loads of great details on them.:cool:
As above its your duty to loose the std. cans!:D
DanAbnormal
22-01-08, 08:51 AM
That looks handy, I bet it sounds great!
ThEGr33k
22-01-08, 10:45 AM
That looks handy, I bet it sounds great!
Unfortunatly not with the stock cans... Or at least not as good as it could. Some after markets and I know itll be sounding damn fine! :p
Only two potential problems with changing them though. Apparently you "need" to chip it to make up for the different air flows. Also the cheapest insurance (by £500) doesnt allow mods on the online quote, so im going to have to ring and see about it.
ThEGr33k
26-01-08, 07:57 PM
Ive got it! WOOOHOOO.
Only thing is I havnt riden it yet and cant till 11th Feb :'(. My dad had to ride it back for me (he has the extra on his insurance to ride an insured bike) he says its very nice in the corners. :D
Well here are some more pics, the garden does need a good looking at :rolleyes:.
http://a180.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_011adefb7c834250f8871dbb360f499b.jpg
http://a868.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/90/l_4e73a6e8556685c2c9b9ff0164617d0b.jpg
Note My SV in the garage.
http://a920.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/110/l_7d54c87d5eb0154258f244b228b22a1f.jpg
Get some Zorsts on and OH YEA. :D:D:D:D:D
Wideboy
26-01-08, 08:00 PM
this is a u-rated forum plz :lol:
Tim in Belgium
26-01-08, 08:01 PM
Nice looking bike there. Keep thinking about an Aprillia as my next step. Can't wait to hear your reports on riding it.
Cool. Good choice, like the Falco a lot.
Always fancied a Falco myself , will be really interested on your thoughts once you have put some miles on it
Cheers Steve
-Ralph-
27-01-08, 10:45 AM
Cool. Good choice, like the Falco a lot.
+1, me too, to the extent that I got a trade in value for my SV against an 05 plate Falco last summer, but for various reasons I didn't do it.
Please post up when you get to ride it and let us know what you think, how you got on, etc, etc. I'll be very interested to read about it.
ThEGr33k
27-01-08, 03:16 PM
Sure Ill keep you upto date. Like I said itll be on the road on the 11th all going well so shouldnt be long, though no doubt itll be the slowest 2 and a bit weeks of my life :(.
I really like the look of it, the bellypan finishes it off very nicly imo.
I should be able to get out to the AR08 (ive asked for the time off) so I might see you there... If im still welcome :rolleyes:
ThEGr33k
01-02-08, 10:32 AM
Fully comp isurance cost £714 inc all the dongles with MCE (origionally quoted me over £1400 on internet then they phonesd up and offered that... :S Wierd.
From the 11th YAY.
-Ralph-
01-02-08, 01:40 PM
These were the quotes I got from Express Insurance when I looked at it for me. Full comp, 31, 1 yr NCB, garaged, ground anchored with sold secure gold stuff and a Motrax Vishas disc lock
27-09-2007
APRILIA RSV 1000R FACTORY
KW04MYS
6
£822.15
26-09-2007
27-09-2007
APRILIA RSV
1000R
YX04CJZ
6
£672.21
26-09-2007
27-09-2007
APRILIA SL 1000 FALCO
PO54SXM
6
£543.45
Dangerous Dave
01-02-08, 05:51 PM
They are lovely bikes those Falco's, your Dad's right they do handle well in the corners! Just watch out for the usual Apirlia gremlins!!!
ThEGr33k
15-02-08, 07:36 PM
Right then for those who wonder what the Falco is like here is what I think of it after about 150 miles in terrible conditions.
Firstly the issues I have inherited from previous owner :mad::-
-Slave clutch cylinder isn't great, need to be bled properly (I've tried made it better but didn't fix the issue. Might still be air, its renown for being a GIT!). This is causing issues changing down gears when at low revs and at a stand still as the clutch isn't fully disengaging. - Fix is I've ordered an after marked slave cylinder, this should solve it (I hope!).
-Warped front disk. Damn expensive :(
Right then the bike.
Start it up and the Engine is one noisy piece of kit, lots of mechanical noise is what I mean. I've still got the standard cans on at the moment so the exhaust sound is pretty dull!
Starting it can take some time to get used to as you have to use the fast idle to start it, coming from a pointy SV650 its a little alien. It also takes a good 2 mins to warm up enough to idle by its self, so always allow it some time to get up to temp.
Set off and the engine has lots of low down torque pulls from about 2.5K revs, below that its a little lumpy (a lot like the SV) but this isn't helped with a 1st gear which is good for 70mph! Some people fit different drive sprockets to reduce the gearing. Something you'll notice with the sound as the engine speed increases is that the engine wines a lot which I put down to the use of gear drive's in the engine, sound nice imo. From 5K revs and a bove the intake roar is intoxicating! You can get after market air box's which apparently make it even noisier up front. :D
General Engine characteristics. Very smooth Loads of grunt LOTS of power when revved! I like it! Not really a lot like the SV tbh the engine has FAR more to it... but then it is a race engine with a 1000cc (slightly detuned granted). The gearing as I've mentioned is tall 6th gear is deffo an overdrive gear, 60mph at 3k revs! Best thing is it pulls from there like the sv does from 7k. Over all the engine is lovely.
Brakes. Very strong front, work a treat! The rear is also very usable, better than the SV all round in this. Not much else to say on that I guess.
Seating position is very similar to the SVs. Comfortable and easy to get on with for anything. not done much prolonged city riding but what I have done didn't cause any aches or pains.
A road handling. On the faster corners it turns in nicely and is ROCK solid in the corner, very very confident in the faster corners. Takes some getting used to as the SV in comparison seems a little nervous, may just have been the SV's shocking suspension though causing that :(. Tighter corners it takes some more getting used to as it falls in so easily is weird tbh, but nice. Pulling out of these corners is easy from any revs there is so much torque everywhere, its really great. Steering can be heavy at junctions.
A roads/motorway. With the highly geared 6th its nice to cruise a long, much nicer than the sv as you have the power to pick it up and shift without jumping on the gear lever.
I think that covers most things... If I rated it out of 10 (not counting my issues) I say 9 easy. Though I only have the SVthou and 650 to compair to and I like it better than both so far. Good bike to move upto from a SV650!
I :smt060 mine.
If you have any questions just ask :D
-Ralph-
15-02-08, 08:59 PM
Sounds great apart from the...
issues I have inherited from previous owner :mad:
what's the age, mileage, service history?
Otherwise sounds like my kind of bike! Enjoy! :D
ThEGr33k
15-02-08, 11:39 PM
Full service history with 9400 miles on it... Obviously got a set of numpties servicing it! :rolleyes:
The clutches can get chewed good so im not surprised and I hear the clutch is going, slave cylinder issues are known as well. I hate hydrolic clutches tbh they are nothing but a pain in the ****! I wouldn't mind these issues but im skint from buying and insuring the bike... So i might have to wait to fix it. Might cost ?200 to fix up. My bike was CHEAP though ?2900! So guess I get what I pay for? :cool:
Nice bike! Nice colours and nice sound!
Swap youa go for a go on the Bimota! :D
ThEGr33k
16-02-08, 08:45 AM
:cool: That would be fun... I dont have the option on the insurance though :smt089
http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/aprilia/2000-aprilia-falco-sl1000v-14759.html That seems a good review to me, its exactly how it feels to me.
ThEGr33k
24-02-08, 02:11 AM
Got the bike wound up for the first time today with the roads been ok...ish. The front wheel came up at 120MPH :smt107 Commin upto 9K revs in 3rd and the front felt a little vague got to just under 10K revs and the front lifted... nearly **** me pants! Was on a slight bend on the bypass... :razz:
Nutter!!! Sounds like fun though....
Warthog
24-02-08, 05:02 PM
Nice review mate, I like this bike and it is also a consideration for my next one, insurance allowing. £2900 was a great price!
ThEGr33k
24-02-08, 07:54 PM
Indeed not a bad price to be fair. Though I have to get new discs and pads :(... Not to worry. I also got a new slave cylinder for the clutch.
Oh and remembered to check tyre pressures... front was 20PSI back 31... put them to 35 and 38 and its nicer now... Why didn't I check them earlier!? Sigh.
Should be getting exhausts next week-ish. Ill post a sound bite it I get around to making one :D
Should be getting exhausts next week-ish. Ill post a sound bite it I get around to making one :D
Which exhausts are you getting? I missed your choice!!!
ThEGr33k
24-02-08, 10:33 PM
Im thinking the blue flame ones. :D Should sound ok... :p
ThEGr33k
09-03-08, 11:22 PM
Here are some images for anyone that cares of the bike with new Blue flam evo 3's and the new disc's.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8066/dsc00169jg5.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2204/backofbikevo2.jpg
Looking good :cool: You pleased with the sound now ?
ThEGr33k
09-03-08, 11:44 PM
Looking good :cool: You pleased with the sound now ?
Yea. As you can see I run the top baffle's in. Took them out but it was just too loud, it hurt my ears, Liturally! Still loud enough to know im comming though with them in. :smt077
-Ralph-
10-03-08, 09:46 PM
Yep, all very nice. Looking more and more like the Falco or an RSVR will be my next bike. I'll have to ride both and see what I think.
The only other bikes that really float by boat are the Benelli Tornado, but I don't like the green and other colours are harder to come by, or a Ducati. An Aprilia is just that wee bit more "real world", the only Benelli dealer in Scotland is a tiny wee shop in the borders, other than that it's Newcastle.
I don't care what folk say about reliability, buying a bike for playtime is not a logical decision, if I'm ever in a job where I can commute by bike every day I'll get a Bandit or something as a second bike.
-Ralph-
10-03-08, 09:55 PM
An Aprilia is just that wee bit more "real world"
Haha, just read the review link you posted, see the last line... Hand on heart, I hadn't read it until now!!!
And nobody believes me....:(:rolleyes:
ThEGr33k
13-03-08, 05:57 PM
Ha ha. Yea. Its a good bike. Im loving mine. Soooo looking forward to the sun so I can get it moving. :cool:
yorkie_chris
13-03-08, 06:03 PM
It's bloody quick that thing, can't wait to hear it next meet you get to.
If it's the AR though you've a V-raptor thou for competition, with titanium M4s on it. That's a ground shaker.
ThEGr33k
13-03-08, 06:09 PM
It's bloody quick that thing, can't wait to hear it next meet you get to.
If it's the AR though you've a V-raptor thou for competition, with titanium M4s on it. That's a ground shaker.
I could take the top baffles out as well and OMFG its loud... Hurt my ears, started ringing :pale:. So guess i could take them out again but id have to have ear plugs. :rolleyes:
I should be at thirsk on Sunday if your comming?
yorkie_chris
13-03-08, 06:15 PM
No mate off down to wales to pick up Miss_YC from aberystwyth, just finally got round to making some pillion peg spacers now (to clear the can) Sprayed them satin black and lobbed the can hanger part off with an angle grinder while I was at it.
ThEGr33k
13-03-08, 06:23 PM
No mate off down to wales to pick up Miss_YC from aberystwyth, just finally got round to making some pillion peg spacers now (to clear the can) Sprayed them satin black and lobbed the can hanger part off with an angle grinder while I was at it.
Shame. Hope you have fun going to wales mate. :cool:
ThEGr33k
15-03-08, 12:56 PM
I found out the other day if I hit the rev limiter it makes big bangs. :p The engine sounds like its hitting a limiter similar to the cars on Gran turismo. Its totally different to the SV, you dont slow down you just dont accelerate, very odd.
Dangerous Dave
15-03-08, 01:15 PM
Yeah thats normal on the Falco similar to my 750, the rev limiter cuts in before you notice the power drop unlike SV's that drop off before the rev limiter. Can't understand why people keep hitting the limiter on the SV!
wyrdness
15-03-08, 02:05 PM
Here are some images for anyone that cares of the bike with new Blue flam evo 3's and the new disc's.
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8066/dsc00169jg5.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2204/backofbikevo2.jpg
Very nice. I always fancied a Falco, but I fancied the Speed Triple more. Bet it sounds great with those blueflames on too.
ThEGr33k
15-03-08, 03:50 PM
Yes indeed it does.
STRAMASHER
15-03-08, 04:51 PM
Loose the baffles.:rolleyes:
;)
wyrdness
15-03-08, 04:53 PM
Loose the baffles.:rolleyes:
;)
If you loosen them, they'll probably fall out when riding :p
ThEGr33k
15-03-08, 05:43 PM
Loose the baffles.:rolleyes:
;)
I would but its seriously tooo loud. It hurts! :smt085 Guess I could get the ear plugs in... :cool:
petevtwin650
15-03-08, 06:28 PM
Those cans look nice as a matched pair:cool:. Not keen on the discs though.
And to answer you from another thread Mr Gr33k, Falco long gone sadly and I didn't really notice any difference with the Wavy discs. But I don't tend to use a lot of front brake anyway, especially with the Falco's engine braking.
sv-robo
15-03-08, 06:43 PM
I would but its seriously tooo loud. It hurts! :smt085 Guess I could get the ear plugs in... :cool:
LOL,said you'd like did'nt i?
ThEGr33k
15-03-08, 06:54 PM
LOL,said you'd like did'nt i?
Ha ha yes you did. I like it with the top baffle, its not too loud but still loud, louder than the SV with scorpion with no baffles loud, and still sounds damn fine. :D:D:D
The brakes are Miles better now that Ive changed them, the original ones were warped and didn't work so well. These seemed like a good option and I think they were a good choice.
STRAMASHER
16-03-08, 03:39 AM
I give you 2wks!
The louder yer ****-off big Italian twin, the more you reign the neck in , in town.
ie. Doff , doff ,doff......... 3 figures?
I gave a mate a shot ("soft" Firestorm)and he came back asking if the speedo was still in kilometers?
Nope. That was 130MPH. Down a twisty B road.:smt081
They are fecking loud , I remember idling on the VTR and wondering "What the feck is that?", two Falco's bopping in ,trying to be all un-assuming on factory cans. Not going to happen!:)
Can you tell I miss litre twins?:rolleyes:
:thumbsup:
ThEGr33k
16-03-08, 07:22 AM
Ha ha ha. A little aye. I put both baffles in the other day for the MOT and when I got back to my house my mate was there and said damn it that was loud enough, leave both baffles in. I said Naaa im taking the bottom ones out.
So if he thought it was loud then it must have been!
Its is shocking how you can reach silly speeds very quickly. Great for getting out of the corners though. :D :D :D :D :D
Dangerous Dave
16-03-08, 12:04 PM
To be honest you are not going to feel any difference between wavy disc's and non wavy disc's on the road, by the way the ones you have fitted to the Falco technically aren't wavy disc's as the wavy is only at the very edge like Kawasaki's petal disc's.
You will though Gr33k as your other disc's were warped, but if you were to have put straight OEM disc's on you would have noticed the same performance increase. I have braking full wavy disc's on my 750, they do not claim to increase performance just to be lighter and help clean the pads.
PS. Go on dump the baffles, my old Falco had a full Akrapovic system on it and it sounded lovely!
ThEGr33k
16-03-08, 04:34 PM
Go on dump the baffles, my old Falco had a full Akrapovic system on it and it sounded lovely!
I really dont think I need to... Ask any of the lot that came out with me today, its loud enough :):):):) :smt081
yorkie_chris
16-03-08, 07:12 PM
Pete's SV is louder than mine, him having a full system on the falco doesn't surprise me at all
ThEGr33k
17-04-08, 11:49 AM
Ive just had the bike Dyno'd as much to check the fueling as to find out how many horses are trotting on the back wheel. Its running a little lean so im going to look into a K & N filter and a PC III if the insurance will let me...
Please Mr insurance man PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:
Oh if you can't see the pic:-
RWHP is 113.58 @ 9500RPM.
RWTorque is 69.56FT-LBs @7200RPM.
So all in not bad, though the fella said he's easy got 120 with PCIII sorting the fueling out... So ill re post if I manage to get that sorted. :D
yorkie_chris
17-04-08, 12:08 PM
Can you not do similar trick to the pointy and remap the stock one? Be cheaper!
ThEGr33k
17-04-08, 12:14 PM
Can you not do similar trick to the pointy and remap the stock one? Be cheaper!
Wel I cant buy a new Eprom chip for it which kinda does the same thing. But im sure it wont be as accurate as a PCIII on the fuelling... Also its only about ?70 cheaper so I might as well get it done right I think. :)
DanAbnormal
04-07-08, 11:56 AM
To be honest you are not going to feel any difference between wavy disc's and non wavy disc's on the road,
I thought this but the feel of my galfers is very different to the OEM's I had on the Hornet. The OEM's had an initial bite to them which then faded under heavy breaking and got worse as the temps got up. Theh Galfers you don't have that initial jerk-bite but they are so much more progressive, feed in more brake and they just stop more and more. Much better as it promotes smoother braking.
Falco is a dreamy bike, do they make it anymore?
ThEGr33k
04-07-08, 12:49 PM
Falco is a dreamy bike, do they make it anymore?
No :( Though that doesnt matter much. You can get them very cheap with very low milage for VERY cheap (did I mention CHEAP!?). Infact its pretty stupid how cheap they are. :rolleyes: :p
Just wondering why you wanna know if they make it still?
muffles
04-07-08, 01:10 PM
Buy a Falco buy a Falco buy a Falco
:D
Dangerous Dave
04-07-08, 01:37 PM
But im sure it wont be as accurate as a PCIII on the fuelling... Also its only about ?70 cheaper so I might as well get it done right I think. :)
Nope! Having the OEM remaped is just as accurate as a PC. Whoever quoted you and said there is only 70 quid between the two options is either a rip off merchant or an idiot, unfortunately there are a lot of both in the motorcycle tuning world!
Dangerous Dave
04-07-08, 01:42 PM
I thought this but the feel of my galfers is very different to the OEM's I had on the Hornet. The OEM's had an initial bite to them which then faded under heavy breaking and got worse as the temps got up. Theh Galfers you don't have that initial jerk-bite but they are so much more progressive, feed in more brake and they just stop more and more. Much better as it promotes smoother braking.
Yes, but have you seen the "wavy" disc he has got. They are not wavy discs, they are similar to the Kawasaki petal discs which have such a shallow wave on the edge they make no braking benefit (no lighter either).
It has been tested and wavy's don't offer any braking performance, some aren't lighter than OEM either! The common mistake with a performance boost come from people having new pads an braided lines fitted at the same time, now these do make a difference even with old discs!
DanAbnormal
04-07-08, 03:01 PM
Yes, but have you seen the "wavy" disc he has got. They are not wavy discs, they are similar to the Kawasaki petal discs which have such a shallow wave on the edge they make no braking benefit (no lighter either).
It has been tested and wavy's don't offer any braking performance, some aren't lighter than OEM either! The common mistake with a performance boost come from people having new pads an braided lines fitted at the same time, now these do make a difference even with old discs!
Oh I see. Well, I can recommend Galfers. Very light and the mixure of the galfer pads too = silky smooth yet stronger braking. Next up is braided lines. :cool:
Tim in Belgium
04-07-08, 07:19 PM
What bike are you running these days Dan, I've lost track!
ThEGr33k
05-07-08, 08:58 AM
:D
Has it worked yet... you going to get one? :p
Nope! Having the OEM remaped is just as accurate as a PC. Whoever quoted you and said there is only 70 quid between the two options is either a rip off merchant or an idiot, unfortunately there are a lot of both in the motorcycle tuning world!
Well its $220 for a Factory pro 1413 Eprom, means a fair bit of work getting one of these... CO2 pot adjustment and TB ballancing. So £110 there. I might have been a little off with the £70 difference but still not so big a difference. I think ill get this chip and the Air box size increase mod. About £220 for both which should get rid of the slight stumble in power at 5000RPM. Can get a little irritating being where it is in the revs. :(
Ill try to get those ordered soon. Let you know what they do in the next 2 weeks. :)
ThEGr33k
05-07-08, 09:01 AM
Yes, but have you seen the "wavy" disc he has got. They are not wavy discs, they are similar to the Kawasaki petal discs which have such a shallow wave on the edge they make no braking benefit (no lighter either).
I knew this was the case. I didnt buy them thinking they were "Wavy"... I just thought they would look a bit cooler than the normal round plain ones. HA HA thats the chav comming out of me. Oh dear! :rolleyes:
muffles
05-07-08, 10:48 AM
Has it worked yet... you going to get one? :p
Yeah, I might be tempted actually...
I knew this was the case. I didnt buy them thinking they were "Wavy"... I just thought they would look a bit cooler than the normal round plain ones. HA HA thats the chav comming out of me. Oh dear! :rolleyes:
...hmm but on second thoughts, perhaps I won't. Can't be associated with this :p
StreetHawk
05-07-08, 10:55 AM
ThEGr33k - Would you reccommend the Falco then?
muffles
05-07-08, 11:23 AM
ThEGr33k - Would you reccommend the Falco then?
:smt043 I am sure you're not serious...
ThEGr33k
05-07-08, 12:00 PM
ThEGr33k - Would you reccommend the Falco then?
:smt017 What Muffles saids. :smt077
Muffles you gotto love modding. :cool:
StreetHawk
05-07-08, 01:17 PM
:smt043 I am sure you're not serious...
:p
muffles
05-07-08, 04:24 PM
Muffles you gotto love modding. :cool:
As long as you haven't gone as far as an anodized bolt kit eh.... ;)
Dangerous Dave
05-07-08, 04:58 PM
As long as you haven't gone as far as an anodized bolt kit eh.... ;)
Yuch, looks crap on any bike!!!
Nick you should become an Aprilia salesman. You should print out these threads and include them in a CV!
ThEGr33k
05-07-08, 07:27 PM
Nick you should become an Aprilia salesman. You should print out these threads and include them in a CV!
HA HA. That might work if id actually helped sell any. :p
Well, I think I've seen 3 now - they're getting common :p
Tim in Belgium
05-07-08, 09:14 PM
Got one of those shonky 'Prillias in my garage keeping the SV company, man it's a heap for an '04 bike.
DanAbnormal
05-07-08, 09:49 PM
What bike are you running these days Dan, I've lost track!
Another Hornet, an 06 one this time. What can I say, I'm smitten. They do everything I need and are oodles of fun.
muffles
05-07-08, 11:25 PM
Another Hornet, an 06 one this time. What can I say, I'm smitten. They do everything I need and are oodles of fun.
Do you still have that ZX-10R too?
ThEGr33k
05-07-08, 11:51 PM
Got one of those shonky 'Prillias in my garage keeping the SV company, man it's a heap for an '04 bike.
A Aprilia what? Strange if it is a wreck as they are generally good for build quality (well not much weather dmg) my Falco looks loads better than the SV and its 2 years older...
Another Hornet, an 06 one this time. What can I say, I'm smitten. They do everything I need and are oodles of fun.
That's what I think to the Falco. Though maybe a little behind the modern sports bikes on the track its a much better road bike. :D
ThEGr33k
14-07-08, 12:49 AM
Right I think its about time I wrote a propper report for anyone who even cares any more :p
First off the Engine. What a peach, pulls from everywhere! Now that I have synchronised the Throttle bodies it is smooth from as low as 2K RPM! Once you get to 5.5KRPM it really gets a kick up the bum you end up changing gears very quickly or risk bouncing off of the rev limiter.
3rd gear is amazing for the bendy bits as it can go between very slow and limit breaking speeds extremely fast and is easy on the throttle control, IE its not as on off as lower gears can be... though even that isnt so bad on this bike.
The slipper clutch works a treat with aggressive down shifting, though in the wet can still be caught out if you drop the clutch a little too fast.
The gear box is slick with clutchless changes being absolutly NO problem. Not the same as the SV650 in that it doesnt feel as notchy, its a different feeling when you find the next gear you want. Can find the odd false Neutral if you make a bals of it, but it dont have any issues getting the gear you want one the clutch is in.
Suspension... the front is great. Showa USD's the same as off of the RSV Mille so pretty good, even by todays standard. Fully adjustable and you can deffo tell when you change something on it!
The back suspension however is a little on the cheap side, its pretty much the only big issue with the bike... and even then it isnt a massive issue... its just the bike would be SOOO much better with a better fully adjustable shock so a little more rear ride height can be programmed in as it can be a little slugish with turning in. The rear shock only has Preload and dampening... one screw for both rebound and compressin. Doh. It does the job, still better than the SV rear shock; though that isnt too hard :(
Brakes. Well the front is sporting 4 piston Brembo callipers, not radial but that doesnt matter much as they are more than capable when they bight onto the nce fat 320mm disc's.
The rear brake is good enough, its strong enough to lock the back wheel but not so easy to lock that its silly, you can still get a good amount of stopping before it gets to just locking.
Handling. Its great, it feels a lot like the SV in the corners, only its more confident, it holds a line amazingly well and can be made to change line with little effort! The only problem can be the rear shock when pushed hard it can squirm a little. Like I said before one this is changed and the rear ride height brought up it will be even better. Power output is predictable so its easy to get ont he power early in the corner and get those chicken strips stripped.
Reliabiliy. So far its absolutly fantastic. I though I had some issues when I got it as you might see earlier in the thread but they wernt what I thought. The only true issue I had was the speedo sensor which managed to get water in it and stop working for a way, which isnt so bad as I knew my speed from the RPM's. The Engine is bullet proof! Brilliant.
Mods I have done are, New disc's. For some reason the old one was terrably warped... not sure what the previous owner had done. the discs are now EBC ones and are fantastic!
Exhausts, man the stock ones are SHOCKING! They weigh a Tonne no kidding and are so quiet you feel like crying for the bike sounding so damn crap. But my Blue flames exhausts have released the noise!
Usability. Ive never had less than 45MPG no matter how I ride it! Great as far as that goes. comfort for the long rides is fantstic, even with its fairly sporty seating position. Pillion isnt too bad either, knee's are a little up and they will get some wind blast from being high up... but that isnt so bad. With the right edditions (paniers) it can carry a lot of luggage.
Thats everything I think.
Hope you like the review... And I hope some poeple read it, though I doubt it with it being sooo far back in this thread. ha ha.
Here is a page for Spec's
http://www.dropbears.com/g/gowanloch/aprilia_falco.htm
http://a958.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_8df227200e91dfb2476e4fb2e6424b55.jpg
As you can see this is the 60* V990 rotax engine with its ballancing shafts and heads showing. :cool:
http://www.dropbears.com/g/gowanloch/images/rsvr/millemdiag.jpg
St0rmer66
14-07-08, 08:05 AM
It's a nice bike, but I think I want a Mille instead for my next bike.. 2000-2002 RSV-R with the full ohlins suspension, ohlins damper and Oz wheels :) .
I think the Falco would suit me better if I used the bike as more than a toy though, for sure. Have you considered putting some shorter dog-bones on it to raise the rear? I think it would look better and might help it turn in faster.
Right I think its about time I wrote a propper report for anyone who even cares any more :p
First off the Engine. Well Its not as exciting as, say Neio's ZX6R but i suppose i am stuck with it. SO ill just have to imaging its an IL4 and screech to myself in my helmet all the time wishing i had a ZX6-R
Suspension... Same story really, could do with the great set up the 6R has
Brakes. Well the front is sporting 4 piston Brembo callipers, not radial Like Neio's ZX, the stopping power of Neios bike is Awsome!! Damm i am really wishing i had gone for one now!
Handling. Its great, But agian Neios Zx6R will show it up everywhere.
In Summary I wish i had gone for a ZX6-R just like Neio has!
Thats everything I think.
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Aww thank you mate i did not know you felt so bad and though my bike was sooooo much better!! I might let you ride it if we meet. So you know what you are missing:smt064;):D
yorkie_chris
14-07-08, 10:58 AM
Youve got too much time on your hands neio
Youve got too much time on your hands neio
Says the Student!!! LOL ;)
Sorry Nick, still wont be changing from SV650.org to Falco.org ;) Nice review though.
Couple of downsides with a big twin - eats tyres, chains, sprockets and fuel
ThEGr33k
14-07-08, 01:43 PM
It's a nice bike, but I think I want a Mille instead for my next bike.. 2000-2002 RSV-R with the full ohlins suspension, ohlins damper and Oz wheels :) .
I think the Falco would suit me better if I used the bike as more than a toy though, for sure. Have you considered putting some shorter dog-bones on it to raise the rear? I think it would look better and might help it turn in faster.
Well thats upto you mate. BUT from what I hear you are still better off with a Falco, more reliable and more comfortable, plus for the difference in cost you can get all the bling bits and add them to the Falco! There are MANY (well relatively speaking) out there with Oz wheels RSV swinging arms etc etc.
Here is a couple
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3226/2541760177_0eb622439e_b.jpg
http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=74537&stc=1&d=1196565517
http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82968&stc=1&d=1209475716
Doing this makes it your own custom that pretty much no one has. Youll probably never see another falco, and if you do it wont have the same mods. :D
As to the dog bones I could. But I think ill just go straight for a Shocker with ride height adjustment, kill two birds with one stone. Just got to get the money to kill those birds.
Aww thank you mate i did not know you felt so bad and though my bike was sooooo much better!! I might let you ride it if we meet. So you know what you are missing:smt064;):D
Ha ha. That must have taken some time. :D I like it, shame its all lies, LIES I say to thee! :smt043
Sorry Nick, still wont be changing from SV650.org to Falco.org ;) Nice review though.
Couple of downsides with a big twin - eats tyres, chains, sprockets and fuel
Aye, but the 16K miles ive managed to wreck this chain to isnt so bad. Though I think it is pretty shot now! :(
Also 45MPG isnt that bad I dont think. Rear tyre will be getting ready for a change at 7K miles though. Bah, flattening a LOT now :(
muffles
14-07-08, 03:43 PM
Aww thank you mate i did not know you felt so bad and though my bike was sooooo much better!! I might let you ride it if we meet. So you know what you are missing:smt064;):D
Did you see the latest (I think) Superbike magazine? It did a test of all the 600s and the ZX came last with the heaviest weight and a flat-low-down engine that needs more revs than any other ;)
Did you see the latest (I think) Superbike magazine? It did a test of all the 600s and the ZX came last with the heaviest weight and a flat-low-down engine that needs more revs than any other ;)
i did but i chose to ignor them as Fast bikes (who know what they are on about given their reporters race) still rate it as the best 600 for the second year going, oh and it humped others in sportsbike of the year. ;)
oh and it still has the second highest top speed as well!! But That said at least it wil stil be around after a winter un like the Suzuki which would have rusted and turned to orange filings on the floor LOL
muffles
14-07-08, 04:00 PM
i did but i chose to ignor them as Fast bikes (who know what they are on about given their reporters race) still rate it as the best 600 for the second year going, oh and it humped others in sportsbike of the year. ;)
oh and it still has the second highest top speed as well!! But That said at least it wil stil be around after a winter un like the Suzuki which would have rusted and turned to orange filings on the floor LOL
Lol - personally I ignore all of them as they all talk $hit...they chop and change from one to another in a moment's notice...
Btw I think two of the Superbike reporters are racing? One a CBR600RR & the other a KTM Superduke? Not that it matters...I still apply my above logic ;) but just thought I would point that out re: your argument :p
Lol - personally I ignore all of them as they all talk $hit...they chop and change from one to another in a moment's notice...
Btw I think two of the Superbike reporters are racing? One a CBR600RR & the other a KTM Superduke? Not that it matters...I still apply my above logic ;) but just thought I would point that out re: your argument :p
I know the SS600 section is so competative and close i dont think the likes of me or you could tell the differnces they go on about. I mean i bought the Kwack cos i love its looks. horses for courses i suppose.
ThEGr33k
14-07-08, 04:29 PM
isnt the wet weight of the 600's around 210KG's? If so then my bike is only slightly heavier. :D i think mine comes in at 215KG's fully wet.
muffles
14-07-08, 04:37 PM
I know the SS600 section is so competative and close i dont think the likes of me or you could tell the differnces they go on about. I mean i bought the Kwack cos i love its looks. horses for courses i suppose.
Yep agreed, that's the way to do it tbh.
isnt the wet weight of the 600's around 210KG's? If so then my bike is only slightly heavier. :D i think mine comes in at 215KG's fully wet.
Lol no...
ZX-6R was the heaviest at 202kg fully fuelled, etc. CBR600RR was the lightest at 184/186kg I think?
D675 was 191kg I *think*, GSX-R600 was 199kg (probably due to that can!), R6 was...err, I forget, somewhere in the middle. Someone look it up please :p
ThEGr33k
14-07-08, 05:00 PM
Yep agreed, that's the way to do it tbh.
Lol no...
ZX-6R was the heaviest at 202kg fully fuelled, etc. CBR600RR was the lightest at 184/186kg I think?
D675 was 191kg I *think*, GSX-R600 was 199kg (probably due to that can!), R6 was...err, I forget, somewhere in the middle. Someone look it up please :p
210... That's mine. Just figured it all out. Got to remember my bike carries 21L of fuel not 17 though so that's 4KG's straight off. So mine isn't that fat. :D happy days. :)
210... That's mine. Just figured it all out. Got to remember my bike carries 21L of fuel not 17 though so that's 4KG's straight off. So mine isn't that fat. :D happy days. :)
It still cant handle as well though;):p
ThEGr33k
14-07-08, 07:40 PM
It still cant handle as well though;):p
Possibly not. but how can either of us say? Would you say a ZX6R would out handle a RSV-R? Im pretty sure neither of us could get close to the performance available on either anyway. :)
Tim in Belgium
15-07-08, 07:12 PM
Track Day it. Come on and hurry up.
ThEGr33k
15-07-08, 08:13 PM
Track Day it. Come on and hurry up.
But But But. Im scared ill brake it :(. If I do ill not be happy! :smt013
Ill see...
muffles
15-07-08, 09:44 PM
But But But. Im scared ill brake it :(. If I do ill not be happy! :smt013
Ill see...
You had best brake it! Otherwise you might end up breaking it ;) :p
ThEGr33k
15-07-08, 09:52 PM
You had best brake it! Otherwise you might end up breaking it ;) :p
:rolleyes: OK... im dyslexic. :p How do you feel now taking the pi$$ :smt066
This thread is funny :lol:
muffles
15-07-08, 10:19 PM
:rolleyes: OK... im dyslexic. :p How do you feel now taking the pi$$ :smt066
Where's the get my coat smiley! I'll have to make do with this:smt079
In that case, just consider it me helping out ;)
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