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Blue_SV650S
26-01-08, 12:56 PM
Ok, some of you may have seen my other thread (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=103383) where I confessed to buying a petrol powered RC buggy on a complete impulse :oops:

I played with it for the first time today (only got it last night) and here it is (video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTyYDX_33-Q) it's quite nippy for a cheapy! 8) Cool bit of parking at the end even if I do say so myself :takeabow: :mrgreen:

Now all I need to do is convince some of my mates to get one too!! :D

StreetHawk
26-01-08, 01:04 PM
Looks pretty quick! What camera are you using?

Blue_SV650S
26-01-08, 01:12 PM
Looks pretty quick! What camera are you using?

I did set it up with the bullet cam set-up (http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/blue_sv650s/SUNP0002.jpg) I use on my bike, but as soon as I was ready to start recording, the ruddy battery for the bullet cam went flat!! #-o (it was only a cheapy single 9v, not the normal 8*AAs I use - I know it was only cheap, but I can't believe how little time the 9v lasted! :thumbdown:). So I ripped all that rigmarole off again ... :rolleyes:

Anyway, so I ended up just using the inbuilt camera/camcorder function of my bullet cam recording device JDX 638 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/3-0-LCD-2GB-DC-PMP-MP3-MP4-DV-Flash-Player_W0QQitemZ170175551315QQihZ007QQcategoryZ313 88QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247 QQcmdZViewItem) Obviously I normally use the AV-in function for the bullet cam, not its inbuilt cam function as the bullet cam is much higher quality.

The JXD inbuilt camera is not the best quality ever, but hey it worked - and as plan A had gone to rats, I had to move to plan B!! 8)

Tim in Belgium
26-01-08, 02:49 PM
I hope you used the correct running in procedure ;)

Wideboy
26-01-08, 02:51 PM
i think i've got one somewhere, or did have :smt102

northwind
26-01-08, 04:30 PM
Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqVh4_Qc-ic&NR=1

Blue_SV650S
26-01-08, 05:06 PM
I hope you used the correct running in procedure ;)

You mean there is a running in procedure?!!? :D

Did you see this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqVh4_Qc-ic&NR=1

Innit! :D

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Unfortunately boys and girls ...

I have very very sad news ... :(

On only its 2nd ever outing (about 30 mins go) ... I lost radio reception or the vibration turned the gear off and it went FLAT out into a high/solid kerb :reaper: .... the front totally folded up bits of metal and plastic everywhere ... RIP little car :cry:

monkey
03-02-08, 11:32 PM
Sorry Blue a little giggle sneaked out then. That's pants. I can't believe all those others in the crashy video survived and yours broke after one good knock. Nice parking though. The little beauty is parked in a golden painted parking bay in RC heaven now.

:(

Blue_SV650S
03-02-08, 11:44 PM
Sorry Blue a little giggle sneaked out then. That's pants. I can't believe all those others in the crashy video survived and yours broke after one good knock. Nice parking though. The little beauty is parked in a golden painted parking bay in RC heaven now.

:(

To be fair on it, FLAT OUT (and I mean on flat out!!) so 40odd mph, into a 12" high kerb and 2kg car with all that momentum at 40mph ... bits of plastic aren't going to stand much chance ;)

The ones doing jumps etc had some lateral movement in the fall ... not coming to a dead/abrupt stop like mine did :(

I'll fix her up :) ... but I need parts and the place that sells them is out of stock of the parts I need. I intend to fashion most of the stuff as I just can't get the parts, but the steering bits that obliterated really need to be the proper ones . . .

monkey
03-02-08, 11:49 PM
To be fair on it, FLAT OUT (and I mean on flat out!!) so 40odd mph, into a 12" high kerb and 2kg car with all that momentum at 40mph ... bits of plastic aren't going to stand much chance ;)


S'pose. Just been looking up your video set-up AGAIN! Is it a generic 480 line bullet cam you've got? Will a sport cam be the same quality? Have seen the link to the recorder. Nice price! No advantage in getting the next one up either apart from the screen if I'm right. How do you attach yours to the bike?

Sorry to derail.
:)

Blue_SV650S
03-02-08, 11:54 PM
S'pose. Just been looking up your video set-up AGAIN! Is it a generic 480 line bullet cam you've got? Will a sport cam be the same quality? Have seen the link to the recorder. Nice price! No advantage in getting the next one up either apart from the screen if I'm right. How do you attach yours to the bike?

Sorry to derail.
:)

Its a Sony 1/3" CCD 480 line ... Mine was a 'from china' special, not a top end one, but at the end of the day it is the sensor spec that is important and that cam (at the time) was the same as one twice the price from the uk ...

I now have a 'sport cam' one too, but as of yet that is untested ... I intend to have a forward and rearward facing cam at all times now so will be using that and the original 8)

lukemillar
04-02-08, 03:23 AM
The novelty on that worn off for me after about a minute!!

Should have bought the R6 :cool:

monkey
04-02-08, 11:03 AM
He he he. I forgot that!

Blue_SV650S
04-02-08, 11:39 AM
The novelty on that worn off for me after about a minute!!

Should have bought the R6 :cool:

You were only watching a video, not playing with it though ... if I gave you a video of me riding an R6 (normally/sensibly) you would have got bored of that in 60s too ;)

pmapp
04-02-08, 11:47 AM
What cha need for it (once rebuilt) is a fail safe device, cost about £10 ish.

If there's interference (sp?) or signal loss, it cuts in and closes the carb and applies the brake.

I can't see the vis at work. what car is (was) it?


I did the exact same thing a couple of years ago, spent a fortune buying bits for it (fortune = full titanium chassis and shock towers, bigger engine, exhaust, filters.....................)

It's now sat in the shed looking sorry for itself needing a new clutch. We usually take 'em for evening entertainment at race metings (and to see how many of the little sprogs we can mow down).

pmapp
04-02-08, 11:48 AM
One o' these.........

http://www.storacingproducts.com/cgi-bin/trolleyed_public.cgi?action=showprod_2730

Blue_SV650S
04-02-08, 11:52 AM
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If there's interference (sp?) or signal loss, it cuts in and closes the carb and applies the brake.


I am assuming the sideways/glancing blow dislodged the batteries ... not sure your failsafe would work without power ;)

pmapp
04-02-08, 12:23 PM
Nope, they don't.

Blue_SV650S
04-02-08, 12:29 PM
Nope, they don't.

Looking back, I don't think I explained what happened ...

Basically I sideswiped one kerb (was trying to adjust transmitter and when I looked up it was further away than I expected), that I presume dislodged the batteries and it then was on full throttle and shot at full speed across the car park into a high kerb at the other end!!! BANG :cry:

Stig
04-02-08, 12:43 PM
And I was just thinking watching that vid that you needed more room. Lots more room. Seems I was right :sad:

I got bored of the 2nd vid after about 30 seconds.

Blue_SV650S
04-02-08, 01:48 PM
And I was just thinking watching that vid that you needed more room. Lots more room. Seems I was right :sad:

I got bored of the 2nd vid after about 30 seconds.

I took it to a much bigger carpark afterwards as I wanted to max it out ... that is where it was KIA, not in the same place as the vid ... :cry:

Blue_SV650S
06-02-08, 11:02 AM
Ok peeps, managed to find a place (http://www.blacksmithproducts.co.uk)that stocks the parts I NEED, I am taking a bit of a risk as it is not actually my car they list, but the one they do looks the same and its too coincidental all the part numbers match ;) … so assume it is the same thing just re-badged 8)

There are more bits broken, but I can either get away with them or fashion them myself … but I am not ?33 lighter*, but should have all the bits I need to rebuild her 8)

Assuming these parts fit and I haven’t just wasted ?33, she will live again!!! :)

*?33 isn’t a lot of money these days (i spend more than that every time I go to the supermarket or fill the car/van up!), but it was hard to spend that much on what was just a few spares for a ?94 car … it was a close run thing to abandon it! ;)

Blue_SV650S
06-02-08, 06:00 PM
Try ebay for parts (i used to use an ebay shop called RCboys) and i also used to import from Tower Hobbies in the states. Now you have a chance to upgrade to stronger parts so do some research or join a web forum that specialize in your car

Dude, parts are in the post already ;)

TC3
06-02-08, 06:01 PM
Dude, parts are in the post already ;)

Erm ok...i deleted that post as you posted this by the way LOL

lukemillar
06-02-08, 10:52 PM
You were only watching a video, not playing with it though ... if I gave you a video of me riding an R6 (normally/sensibly) you would have got bored of that in 60s too ;)

True! :lol:

Blue_SV650S
07-02-08, 11:01 AM
I have a box of buggy parts on my desk … bearing in mind I only rang up yesterday AM … hats off to blacksmithproudcts!! 8)

Let the rebuild begin :)

Blue_SV650S
08-02-08, 10:09 AM
Fixed it last night (boy it was a struggle to make stuff fit/go back together again!! :D).

Gonna give it a try at lunchtime 8)

Blue_SV650S
08-02-08, 07:35 PM
Played with it on the way home today .... it works fine!! \\:D/

I think it looks cooler with the yellow bodyshell!! 8)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/blue_sv650s/buggy_rebuilt.jpg

Speedy Claire
08-02-08, 07:47 PM
Right i`m ready for that race... it might be a few years since I was N.W. female champ but after seein that i reckon i`d still hammer you :D

Blue_SV650S
08-02-08, 07:51 PM
Right i`m ready for that race... it might be a few years since I was N.W. female champ but after seein that i reckon i`d still hammer you :D

Ohh that is fighting talk that is ... all I can say to that gauntlet being dropped is ... BRING-IT-ON!!! :driving::smt065 :D

Speedy Claire
08-02-08, 08:04 PM
Sire... choose your weapon.

erm i don`t actually have one at the min but if anyone can lend me one :(

Mind you.. i could always just give you a display of how it should be done!

Blue_SV650S
08-02-08, 08:18 PM
Sire... choose your weapon.

erm i don`t actually have one at the min but if anyone can lend me one :(

Mind you.. i could always just give you a display of how it should be done!

To be fair, as they go mine is bound to be a bit plops as it was only a cheapie!! ;)

But it would be fun if you could get your hands on another cheapie and have a showdown!! ... :salut:

I better start thinking up excuses now ... :oops:

Speedy Claire
08-02-08, 08:21 PM
To be fair, as they go mine is bound to be a bit plops as it was only a cheapie!! ;)

But it would be fun if you could get your hands on another cheapie and have a showdown!! ... :salut:

I better start thinking up excuses now ... :oops:


Right... the challenge is on, i`ll see what I can do. My ex hubbie might still have his knocking about somewhere but it`d put yours to shame!!! this could be fun :smt077

Blue_SV650S
08-02-08, 08:24 PM
Right... the challenge is on, i`ll see what I can do. My ex hubbie might still have his knocking about somewhere but it`d put yours to shame!!! this could be fun :smt077

hehe 8)

monkey
09-02-08, 03:55 AM
Played with it on the way home today .... it works fine!! \\:D/


Blue if you can ride home AND drive one of those at the same time then I'm putting you in for the Nobel prize for multi-tasking. (By the way girls, the Times wrote a story once on how men can multi-task better than women! So there)

P.S. What was that plug in thing you use when starting it? I'm clueless.
:)

Blue_SV650S
09-02-08, 05:27 PM
Blue if you can ride home AND drive one of those at the same time then I'm putting you in for the Nobel prize for multi-tasking. (By the way girls, the Times wrote a story once on how men can multi-task better than women! So there)

P.S. What was that plug in thing you use when starting it? I'm clueless.
:)

hehe, as I am sure you are aware, I simply stopped off to play on the way home silly ;)

As for the plug thing, that is there to 'heat' the glow plug. Its a bit like a diesel car needs a glow pre-heat to start it, then the heat from combustion keeps it glowing form there on 8)

Blue_SV650S
23-02-08, 01:59 PM
Its broke again!!

http://planetsmilies.net/sad-smiley-384.gif

DoubleD
23-02-08, 02:30 PM
what happened???

Blue_SV650S
23-02-08, 04:16 PM
what happened???
Loss of radio AGAIN!! :rolleyes: ... nothing in particular caused it this time (i.e. didn't hit anything just prior) on investigation, the little plug that connects the battery box to the on switch had come out ... :shaking:

It bust the tank AGAIN, the steering parts AGAIN .. bodyshell AGAIN :rolleyes: .. and this time the top half of the alli chassis is broken - not just bent ...

Speedy Claire
23-02-08, 05:03 PM
:rolleyes:

Blue_SV650S
23-02-08, 05:53 PM
:rolleyes:

Friggin thing!! http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-1497.gif

I only just convinced myself to spend the cash fixing it last time ... not sure I can justify it again :(

Speedy Claire
23-02-08, 05:56 PM
Friggin thing!! http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-1497.gif

I only just convinced myself to spend the cash fixing it last time ... not sure I can justify it again :(

Boys an their Toys!! :-|

Wideboy
23-02-08, 06:17 PM
i might go buy one now, my mate lent me one of his for a while and we got into it, went to buy one then my eyes where averted by another heli, which i didn't buy:rolleyes:

Stig
23-02-08, 08:16 PM
Seems to be rather a fragile 'toy' if all it takes is one crash to break it so convincingly.

Blue_SV650S
23-02-08, 08:23 PM
Seems to be rather a fragile 'toy' if all it takes is one crash to break it so convincingly.

It takes/taken a fair bashing, some of the flips and rolls and cartwheels its done when hitting larger stones/rocks etc have been most impressive and the thing just drives on!! 8) But it certainly doesn't like bashing into solid objects head on at full chat!! :( Coming to that sudden stop - with the engine still driving hard to boot - That is what has killed it both times, what is most annoying is that both times its been terminated it was due to battery connection problems! http://planetsmilies.net/angry-smiley-1497.gif

monkey
24-02-08, 12:33 AM
Reckon you need to find a new hobby. Either that or make the battery terminals a bit more reliable!

DoubleD
24-02-08, 10:24 AM
is there not something you can buy that if radio signal is lost the survos return to '0' so to speak.

ie the car stops rather than heading off at full speed into the hardist thing it can fond.

Blue_SV650S
24-02-08, 11:06 AM
Reckon you need to find a new hobby. Either that or make the battery terminals a bit more reliable!

To be fair, I had actually put some tape on that exact connector as it was a bit dodgy ... but it was very cold and the tape didn't stick that well ... i think with a bit of burning about and probably a bit of fuel spraying about it had worked free ... allowing what happened to happen :( .. most annoying of all is that I was on my way home when it happened (and actually driving it on the road!! :D) ... had it happened down the dirt track I had just been, then it'd have just gone off into a bush/foliage and perhaps flipped upside down and conked out (or whatever, not an abrupt end) ... unfortunately as I said, I was on the road, so it hit a kerb AGAIN :rolleyes: (and no, its a little used road so there weren't any cars about!!) .. I was about 10 meters away from where I was going to stop it and pack it away, I would have seen the lost tape when I got home and undid/cleaned it ... sods law that ... :(

is there not something you can buy that if radio signal is lost the survos return to '0' so to speak.

ie the car stops rather than heading off at full speed into the hardist thing it can fond.

The only ones I know of are like has been mentioned before, i.e. when you have lost signal, if you lose power, you are still fecked!! ;) I could always put a massive spring on the throttle .. not sure the servo would like fighting that in operation though!! :D

monkey
24-02-08, 09:50 PM
If there's voltage on a particular connector when the radio's talking and then it goes when it's not could you wire in a relay so that when the power goes it cuts power to the drive? (Haven't got a clue about the insides of these).

Blue_SV650S
25-02-08, 09:28 AM
If there's voltage on a particular connector when the radio's talking and then it goes when it's not could you wire in a relay so that when the power goes it cuts power to the drive? (Haven't got a clue about the insides of these).

You need to 'power' the throttle servo closed (little motor inside with gears) else it is left stuck on the last throttle setting (generally fully open ;)) ...

monkey
25-02-08, 09:48 AM
That's bloody teribble!

Blue_SV650S
25-02-08, 09:58 AM
That's bloody teribble!

Not really ... it was the same with my old RC planes ... I remember I accidentally caught the on/off switch on the side of one of my planes hand launching it once … much to my friends amusement seeing me running after this aeroplane on full chat holding the transmitter higher at it (like that was going to make any difference) …

Needless to say I caught up with the plane in the end …

I had to go back to the pits for the bin-bag to bring it back mind!! :D

monkey
25-02-08, 10:01 AM
Let me rephrase it:

That's bloody stupid! What a terible way to design them. Good for the industry though I suppose.

Is there onle one little battery in there Blue to power the servo doobries and the radio stuff?

Blue_SV650S
25-02-08, 10:07 AM
Is there onle one little battery in there Blue to power the servo doobries and the radio stuff?

Yes.

The only way I can see of doing it without getting overly complex or expensive is to use some sort of electro magnet device with variable power input to move the throttle. With it sprung SHUT obviously. That way you lose power, it returns to shut, not stays where it is!! ;)

Stig
25-02-08, 10:13 AM
My sons £ 9.99 radio remote control car stops driving when it gets out of range of the controller. Why can they not encorporate the same thing in expensive ones :?:

Blue_SV650S
25-02-08, 10:25 AM
My sons ? 9.99 radio remote control car stops driving when it gets out of range of the controller. Why can they not encorporate the same thing in expensive ones :?:

Oh FFS ... :rolleyes: It didn't go out of range!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: (but yes, if it did, we would have the same problem).

Stig
25-02-08, 10:29 AM
Oh FFS ... :rolleyes: It didn't go out of range!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: (but yes, if it did, we would have the same problem).

My bad. :oops: :lol:

BUT if it does go out of range, it does go mad right :?: Just like kids really. :lol:

Blue_SV650S
29-02-08, 10:50 AM
Ok, so I broke it again and couldn’t justify spending any more cash on it bearing in mind I had already spent over 1/3 of the NEW price fixing it last time ..

So I had 2 choices - the bin or bodge city …

I had nothing to lose by paying a visit to bodge city, so that is exactly what I did ..

I redesigned the steering/servo setup so it didn’t use the ‘crank’ mechanism that has proven so fragile (and expensive). Its now almost directly off the servo - this meant relocating the servo. Which meant that the front gearbox/diff had to go (didn’t matter anyway as it was mangled). So my 4WD car became a 2WD car …

I also used a fuel tank from my old RC aeroplane days as the replacement ‘proper’ one I bought for the car got obliterated in the last crash ..

I also cut up a bit of alli plate and did a drill and bolt job to fix the broken upper chassis plate …

Lots of duck-tape on the bodyshell and I am away!! :)

Gave it its first test this AM, but had a few teething problems (like the steering came a bit loose and I went though a puddle (receiver didn’t like that :oops:). Its all dried out and all works again now mind!! :)

I’ll tighten the steering up at lunchtime and then give it another crack after work 8)

So she lives!! 8) {Frankenstein voice on} “What have I created”??? :D

monkey
29-02-08, 11:30 AM
Can I suggest a big roll of bubble wrap around it too?
:lol:

Blue_SV650S
29-02-08, 08:32 PM
Well, gave it a crack after work and not more than 5 mins in and ....

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Na, na, not that this time, [-X :D but the batteries were too flat* to keep going!! :rolleyes: So I only got a shot test run, but it all seems to work now!! 8)

Being only 2WD now makes it a bit of a menace in the wet!! 8) ... also where the brake is now only on the rear, not all 4, you get the back end out on the brakes!! 8)

*Steering response and throttle response was slowing, a good sign the battery's are getting low.

Speedy Claire
29-02-08, 08:51 PM
My bad. :oops: :lol:

BUT if it does go out of range, it does go mad right :?: Just like kids really. :lol:


Yep... my petrol RC car went out of range and broke somebody`s ankle in 2 places :-(

Speedy Claire
29-02-08, 09:01 PM
Well, gave it a crack after work and not more than 5 mins in and ....

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Na, na, not that this time, [-X :D but the batteries were too flat* to keep going!! :rolleyes: So I only got a shot test run, but it all seems to work now!! 8)

Being only 2WD now makes it a bit of a menace in the wet!! 8) ... also where the brake is now only on the rear, not all 4, you get the back end out on the brakes!! 8)

*Steering response and throttle response was slowing, a good sign the battery's are getting low.



Sorry hun but i just don`t feel you`re competition enough for our challenge... you`re gonna have to do better than this




http://uploads.bikechat.net/Speedy Claire/Copy_of_kiss.bmp

Blue_SV650S
29-02-08, 09:20 PM
Sorry hun but i just don`t feel you`re competition enough for our challenge... you`re gonna have to do better than this




http://uploads.bikechat.net/Speedy%20Claire/Copy_of_kiss.bmp


I could always use your car and you could use mine?!!? ;)

Speedy Claire
29-02-08, 09:32 PM
erm................................ hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............. nope!

if i were to use your car i`d lose!!!

gettin2dizzy
29-03-08, 04:19 PM
I think someones caught him on film again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13YUVsL6gE0&eurl=http://www.videosift.com/top?pg=2
:lol:

Blue_SV650S
29-03-08, 05:05 PM
I think someones caught him on film again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13YUVsL6gE0&eurl=http://www.videosift.com/top?pg=2
:lol:


Although fun to watch, if you look at the detail of how it is done ... how cruel is that ... if you notice, there is a wire round the monkeys neck (hopefully with a fat collar), that is how the power is supplied (monkey sits on bike, the chap yanks the cable round his neck). Poor :monkey: :cry: