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missyburd
30-01-08, 10:07 AM
See here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/7215298.stm)

But one parent, spoken to by the BBC near the school, said: "It would be teaching them to use firearms and encouraging them to go around shooting people." Do people think good/bad idea? I'd have liked to have the opportunity to learn at school but then I don't think I'd have trusted some of my then classmates with a spoon let alone a rifle....:smt068....:pale:

What do people think, good/bad idea? Is it a good idea to let the youth of today loose with this knowledge? Or do we think more and more kids are getting into the proper use of firearms?

Please feel free to discuss at leisure :)

Pedro68
30-01-08, 10:22 AM
It's an Olympic sport, so why shouldn't the kids be encouraged?!

You will always get good and bad kids ... the good may excel at the sport, whilst the bad may decide to take up the "sport" of shooting old ladies on the street. But I'm not entirely convinced that this alone will be the "trigger event" that causes those bad ones to commit any malicious acts, and I don't believe they wouldn't just do that anyway after constantly playing violent video games.

It's a controlled environment, and it may actually help to teach the youngsters the dangers of guns - might make a lot of them think twice.

My 0.02$ worth ... IMO

Pete

DanDare
30-01-08, 10:25 AM
Their not going to give anyone ago just like that.

When I was in the Cadets I had to wait a while before doing any rifle shooting. Cadets were some of the best times of my life, I learnt discipline and respect and all that.

Firing a .22 rifle is a far cry from kids in the street shooting each other with hand guns.

I think its a good idea!

timwilky
30-01-08, 10:57 AM
I have shot .22 rifle for my county before giving it all up for pistol shooting and fun.

It teaches, discipline, concentration, practice, to relax etc.

A 0.22 target rifle is as far as you can get from a street weapon, the weight and being single shot make them impracticable. Security these days is over bearing to the extent that there is little opportunity to squirrel away ammunition or to borrow a rifle.

When I was at college, PE was compulsory, so we asked the question Any sport?. yes. so we me and a mate would sod off down the range for an hour twice a week.

stewie
30-01-08, 10:59 AM
I have shot .22 rifle for my county before giving it all up for pistol shooting and fun.

It teaches, discipline, concentration, practice, to relax etc.

A 0.22 target rifle is as far as you can get from a street weapon, the weight and being single shot make them impracticable. Security these days is over bearing to the extent that there is little opportunity to squirrel away ammunition or to borrow a rifle.


Wot Tim said

Sosha
30-01-08, 11:01 AM
Can't see the big deal.... what's the difference between having somewhere on site or bussing them to the nearest :confused:

Bah Media etc

Biker Biggles
30-01-08, 12:22 PM
I used to shoot all sorts of different rifles up to .303 and 762 bore,and was in a target shooting team.It turned me into a psychopathic serial killer and definitely should have been banned along with dissent and Enid Blyton.
They will be letting kids play Rugby next.:confused:

neio79
30-01-08, 12:30 PM
WTF why do people get hung up on this, its for the cadets and for sport.

I fired rifles in the cadets, i did not go on to wonder the streets and shoot strangers. I went one beter joined the army and got taught how to do it properly, shoot to kill and all that;)

but seriously, what would people rather their kids partaking in a sport and having fun or joining one of the cadet forces, learning lots of skills, have fun etc. Both of these gives the kids something to do and helps keep them of the street. OR would they rather their little darling wonder round in packs causing trouble all the time.

I thnk its a good idea and should go ahead. Its not like they are open shooting ranges you can just wonder on to blat some 9m off and go home. you would have to be part ofa club and in an organised supervised group.

Caddy2000
30-01-08, 12:32 PM
Apparently the Scouts have banned any of their members shooting a targets that are animal or human shaped - but they can still go to laser quest......

I think I can see several knee jerking in Bristol! 'Coz 0.22 rimfire is so much like a 9mm beretta to shoot innit.
I shoot, some of my mates shoot, others don't - you wont be able to tell who shoots and who doesn't out of all of us.

Pathetic!

wyrdness
30-01-08, 12:39 PM
But one parent, spoken to by the BBC near the school, said: "It would be teaching them to use firearms and encouraging them to go around shooting people."
I wonder how many people the journalist had to interview, in order to get that reactionary quote.

missyburd
30-01-08, 05:00 PM
It'd be a nice change to circuit training and netball I suppose :lol:

Obviously shooting a rifle isn't the same as a handgun but that doesn't mean kids won't get a taste for it.


It's a controlled environment, and it may actually help to teach the youngsters the dangers of guns - might make a lot of them think twice.


+1. You'd hope it would teach them something anyway.

Can't see the big deal.... what's the difference between having somewhere on site or bussing them to the nearest :confused:


Laziness?

I wonder how many people the journalist had to interview, in order to get that reactionary quote.

probably not very many, you know what mothers are like :rolleyes:

yorkie_chris
30-01-08, 06:02 PM
Obviously shooting a rifle isn't the same as a handgun but that doesn't mean kids won't get a taste for it.

Can't really see somebody trying to mug someone with a 12 pound .22LR target rifle either :-P

A taste for shooting is completely different from a taste for killing people.

IMO it's a great idea, if people are brought up with guns then there's no "cool" factor about them when all the jigs are "singing" about shooting people. You see a gun as a tool, a powerful one, but nothing special.

missyburd
30-01-08, 06:06 PM
A taste for shooting is completely different from a taste for killing people.

You don't have to have a taste for killing people, more like human target practice...:scratch: Not everyone shoots with the direct intention of killing. Not that I speak from experience of course, but I should think people mainly like to scare others. And the image thing :rolleyes:

But yeah I think getting the point across that guns are still potential weapons and not to be played with would be worth it.

Ed
30-01-08, 06:13 PM
I was in the Army Cadet Force and fired rifles... I don't go around killing people.

What a load of tripe.

squirrel_hunter
30-01-08, 07:49 PM
I grew up near to Hartcliffe, Withywood, Knowle West, and know quite well of the problems that these areas have. Frankly the kids need something to do, but I don't know if this is the answer regardless of the type of activity. It all looks a bit like recruiting from the poor to fight the rich mans war if you ask me, "get 'em when their young".

Personally I'm more concerned about the private money that is going into the education system in the form of City Academy's; who the hell are the Merchant Venturers anyway?

But back to the shooting aspect, I suppose the extra practice is only a good thing; stops the innocent being hit in the cross fire.

Biker Biggles
30-01-08, 07:55 PM
Exactly so.There really is nothing worse than scrotes with guns that cant shoot straight.
Ask any Met Officer from North West London.:D

Flamin_Squirrel
30-01-08, 07:57 PM
Obviously shooting a rifle isn't the same as a handgun but that doesn't mean kids won't get a taste for it.

No more than someone who uses a knife to prepare meat for dinner is likely to go around butchering people, I'd wager.

missyburd
30-01-08, 08:06 PM
No more than someone who uses a knife to prepare meat for dinner is likely to go around butchering people, I'd wager.

lol and they teach Food Technology freely enough :rolleyes:

yorkie_chris
30-01-08, 08:08 PM
Found it amusing a while ago when they had a gun amnesty, the big display laid out with some smug looking copper talking about the evils of firearms ... the gun at the top of the display was a BSA air rifle :D