View Full Version : New riders out there in/near Thames valley area
ukrobuk
18-02-08, 11:56 PM
lol, my valentines day was on a buget due to being out of work at the mo, just meen her bday cost me loads instead.
How much your carbs cost to get balanced, think mine need doing soon, bikes a bit lumpy when idle but could just be old fuel, you go mikey wheelers?
ukrobuk
18-02-08, 11:58 PM
what side indys you need? i got some spaire you can have. Smashed some and replaced all with mini's
well hopefully nothing a bloke across the roas a tad hand in that department and gona show me how for future. i will go there for oil n pads but tend to get the opinion they think im some sort of clueless chav wen i ask for new spark plugs and 4t oil??? does an sv look like an rs50 all of a sudden?
nah im ok got mye eys set on some led ones but not too sure yet its just everything needs to be sorta legit for when i go to lemans in april
smegmunky
19-02-08, 02:27 AM
hey,
I'm in the TV area (live in wycombe, maidenhead or guildford depending on whether I'm being fed from home, girlfriend's or uni!)
Have had my SV for nearly a year, and have about 10k miles on bikes, but very little experience of riding with others.
Would love to join you guys, If you'll have me?
-one potential problem,, I am at present restrricted to 33bhp... it sucks.... in your opinion will this hamper me too much to join you?
(I dont think I'm too slow, I can rag my uncle on his kwak500, and dont seem to lose most bikes till about 80mph on straights)
Cheers,
Sam
hey,
Would love to join you guys, If you'll have me?
-one potential problem,, I am at present restrricted to 33bhp... it sucks.... in your opinion will this hamper me too much to join you?
(I dont think I'm too slow, I can rag my uncle on his kwak500, and dont seem to lose most bikes till about 80mph on straights)
Cheers,
Sam
yes we'll have you.....show u the right way of getting lost....
dont worry about top end speed u can allways catch us up on the rounderbouts.
there is a ride out for this saturday/sunday. coming ?
smegmunky
19-02-08, 02:46 AM
yeh this weekend sounds good, probs can only make sat though.
I'v read the thread about it, seems they'v nt decided where/when?
Sam
its majority rules, but dont worry, there some who will go on both days...
any day is play time..
any day - any time, as long as its raining,cloudy,or cold..........:smt037
smegmunky
19-02-08, 02:54 AM
ha, alright. Cheers, well looks like i'll be there. I'll follow that thread for details
Sam
hey,
Would love to join you guys, If you'll have me?
-one potential problem,, I am at present restrricted to 33bhp... it sucks.... in your opinion will this hamper me too much to join you?
Bring it on. If there's someone on a ride-out with only 33bhp, it gives me an excuse to use the RGV instead of the SV. And an excuse is all I need...
KnightRider
19-02-08, 02:50 PM
ha, alright. Cheers, well looks like i'll be there. I'll follow that thread for details
Sam
Reckon it will be a Saturday ride this week as I cant make it on Sunday :cool:.
33bhp is no problem. We use a marker system which ensures that the whole group gets lost at different places throughout the ride :D
Reckon it will be a Saturday ride this week as I cant make it on Sunday :cool:.
33bhp is no problem. We use a marker system which ensures that the whole group gets lost at different places throughout the ride :D
I think the trouble is, no one sticks to any sort of system. :roll:
KnightRider
19-02-08, 04:23 PM
Not wanting to make anything too formal - but should we not have a quick catch up prior to every ride to cover the marker system? Most times we would just say use the marker system - but when new people join our rides it would be good to explain the rules so that everyone can have confidence that the group will wait.
It only takes 1 person to forget and the whole thing goes to sh*t
Not wanting to make anything too formal - but should we not have a quick catch up prior to every ride to cover the marker system? Most times we would just say use the marker system - but when new people join our rides it would be good to explain the rules so that everyone can have confidence that the group will wait.
It only takes 1 person to forget and the whole thing goes to sh*t
Well volunteered.
Warthog
19-02-08, 04:38 PM
We use a marker system which ensures that the whole group gets lost at different places throughout the ride :D
HAHA! Welcome to the new guys, hopefully see you at the meets and the ride-outs! I wouldn't say 33bhp is a big problem, so long as noone rags it in the straighs, restricted sv's should be able to corner just as fast!
HAHA! Welcome to the new guys, hopefully see you at the meets and the ride-outs! I wouldn't say 33bhp is a big problem, so long as noone rags it in the straighs, restricted sv's should be able to corner just as fast!
Yeah because those on faster machines than others always think about the ones that wont be able to keep up or may not actually have a clue where they are. :roll:
Not wanting to make anything too formal - but should we not have a quick catch up prior to every ride to cover the marker system? Most times we would just say use the marker system
What is this utter gayness?
Anyone who thinks they might not be able to keep up should make sure they know the route in advance. This isn't the IAM. Or CSM, for that matter. You'll be saying there's no jostling for the lead next.
What is this utter gayness?
Anyone who thinks they might not be able to keep up should make sure they know the route in advance. This isn't the IAM. Or CSM, for that matter. You'll be saying there's no jostling for the lead next.
I wouldn't worry to much. You need to attend a TV rideout to be able to jostle for the lead. :wink:
I wouldn't worry to much. You need to attend a TV rideout to be able to jostle for the lead. :wink:
<grabs can of easy-start and flask of coffee, heads to garage>
I may be some time...
ASM-Forever
19-02-08, 05:20 PM
What is this utter gayness?
Anyone who thinks they might not be able to keep up should make sure they know the route in advance. This isn't the IAM. Or CSM, for that matter. You'll be saying there's no jostling for the lead next.
Love it! +1 :cool:
ASM-Forever
19-02-08, 05:21 PM
Yeah because those on faster machines than others always think about the ones that wont be able to keep up or may not actually have a clue where they are. :roll:
So very bitter. :p
Get the SV OTR...until then you have no gripe. :smt026
So very bitter. :p
Get the SV OTR...until then you have no gripe. :smt026
Really. Well maybe I should have asked all those really slow so called sports bikes that were holding me up to get out of the way every time we got to the corners. :wink:
StreetHawk
19-02-08, 05:25 PM
Trouble with the last ride was that some were doing mirror system and some marker system.. Nobody really knew what was going on!
Marker system needs to be explained before the ride as there are variations..
StreetHawk
19-02-08, 05:26 PM
Really. Well maybe I should have asked all those really slow so called sports bikes that were holding me up to get out of the way every time we got to the corners. :wink:
:smt077
ASM-Forever
19-02-08, 05:37 PM
I would say to hell with the marker system. Its only really necessary on well attended rides.
I imagine we'll only end up with circa 5 on Saturday.
Trouble with the last ride was that some were doing mirror system and some marker system.. Nobody really knew what was going on!
Marker system needs to be explained before the ride as there are variations..
I'm a big fan of the "I'm not letting that swine in front of me out of my sight if it's the last thing I do" system.
ukrobuk
19-02-08, 05:59 PM
Hey has anyone been to the Crawley inn near Witney? I know it's bikers pub and just wondering if any of you lot been there? As it 5min walk from me.
http://www.crawleyinn.co.uk/
StreetHawk
19-02-08, 06:04 PM
Never been but it looks good.. Will have to check it out soon :-)
KnightRider
19-02-08, 06:27 PM
I'm a big fan of the "I'm not letting that swine in front of me out of my sight if it's the last thing I do" system.
You can ride behind me.
I always seem to have the slower rider behind me and end up having to wait at every junction.
KnightRider
19-02-08, 06:34 PM
I would say to hell with the marker system. Its only really necessary on well attended rides.
I imagine we'll only end up with circa 5 on Saturday.
The point I am trying to make is that we need to work out what we are doing before the ride. If the ride is only 5 people strong then mirrors are fine but we need to clarify that first.
Also, dont rule out markers for smaller groups. If you have newbies on the ride then it can be very handy. That way you can blast off and have a spirited ride and all you have to do is wait for the person behind you at each junction. That is what SDMF and Ape did on my first ride and it worked well.
It also takes the pressure off the newbie who might try to keep up with you and get into trouble round corners.
ASM-Forever
19-02-08, 06:36 PM
Marker system can work, but IMO best way is for everyone to know the route so noone feels pressured to keep up, as they know the rest will be waiting further on.
With 5 people i don't think we'll be strung out much anyway, should be compact.
"Tight like a tiger". :)
I give up...we'll use a marker system.
KnightRider
19-02-08, 06:46 PM
Marker system can work, but IMO best way is for everyone to know the route so noone feels pressured to keep up, as they know the rest will be waiting further on.
With 5 people i don't think we'll be strung out much anyway, should be compact.
"Tight like a tiger". :)
I give up...we'll use a marker system.
Case by case decision. Probably wont need it on Sat. But it worked well on the Brighton ride!
Just to poke my nose in. I think the mirrors work well if you are working in a tight small group with riders that work at the same speeds and styles. Where it breaks down is with a mix of different speeds on a ride which is typical with new groups.
The main problem with the mirror system it is that you are always looking in your mirrors...
Its a problem coming into junctions for example, where you should be looking for hazards in front of you, instead its looking in the mirror thinking where the hell is he, should I slow down, should I stop, get a move on you slow blah blah blah... ok I'll stop, oh crap I should have stopped here. No matter I'll just squeeze into this spot and hope ill be alright. Or you overrun a junction anyway continue and hope for the best.
The benefit with the marker system is that it takes all of this away. You pick the safest spots to stop on junctions and always the focus more on your own riding rather than others. Its also faster riding if you want it - you can chase down the lead rider from the back, overtake slower riders on the way, and if you dont want to mark - sit 2 behind the lead marker or at the back. If you are a slower rider - no drama you will never get lost as someone will be waiting ahead so no pressure to catch up if you dont want to go fast. Its also simple to pick up if everyone is briefed from the start.... which is a good opportuntiy for newbies to work out who the ride leader/tail ender is anyway. Overall a safer system to work with and the only one that needs to know the route is the ride leader.
Case by case decision. Probably wont need it on Sat. But it worked well on the Brighton ride!
guys,
sundays brighton ride the mirrors and marker system worked a treat..
from 11 riders we only lost 1............from guildford to brighton i would say thats not too bad.....
but where and why did that person get lost...the person in front should have waited at the turning, because the people infront of him would have been waiting for him....
lets try this weekend, it can olny get better...
ASM-Forever
19-02-08, 11:31 PM
Tony assuming you are talking about your mate, then he's a plonker for not looking where everyone went. They were visible!
True, sometimes even the best system wont work if the rider is just not paying enough attention. You can only do so much.
he said that when turned around and came back to the crossing, the marker had buggered off,
oh well which way now ? flipped a coin.
All i'm saying is that the marker should have stayed a little bit longer, instead of carrying on with ride.
lets try better guys.....:bball:
ASM-Forever
20-02-08, 12:09 AM
As far as i know noone marked that junction!
There was no need to as it was only 20 yards up the road and he must have seen everyone head up it. If not where the hell was he looking? Poor obs doesn't cover it. :)
As far as i know noone marked that junction!
There was no need to as it was only 20 yards up the road and he must have seen everyone head up it. If not where the hell was he looking? Poor obs doesn't cover it. :)
20 yards up the road ?
then it a no comment......
KnightRider
20-02-08, 12:13 AM
Just to poke my nose in. I think the mirrors work well if you are working in a tight small group with riders that work at the same speeds and styles. Where it breaks down is with a mix of different speeds on a ride which is typical with new groups.
The main problem with the mirror system it is that you are always looking in your mirrors...
Its a problem coming into junctions for example, where you should be looking for hazards in front of you, instead its looking in the mirror thinking where the hell is he, should I slow down, should I stop, get a move on you slow blah blah blah... ok I'll stop, oh crap I should have stopped here. No matter I'll just squeeze into this spot and hope ill be alright. Or you overrun a junction anyway continue and hope for the best.
The benefit with the marker system is that it takes all of this away. You pick the safest spots to stop on junctions and always the focus more on your own riding rather than others. Its also faster riding if you want it - you can chase down the lead rider from the back, overtake slower riders on the way, and if you dont want to mark - sit 2 behind the lead marker or at the back. If you are a slower rider - no drama you will never get lost as someone will be waiting ahead so no pressure to catch up if you dont want to go fast. Its also simple to pick up if everyone is briefed from the start.... which is a good opportuntiy for newbies to work out who the ride leader/tail ender is anyway. Overall a safer system to work with and the only one that needs to know the route is the ride leader.
I agree completely. The system used should depend on who you are riding with and the groups abilities. I also find it distracting trying to find people in my mirrors especially when alot of the newbies sit directly behind you rather than slightly off center so you can see them.
I also know what our lot are like - if you slow for the person behind there is no way anyone in front of you will notice that you are not there until they are long gone. I say this from experience - isnt that how we lost ASM when I took the group to Marlow on the first meet?
ASM-Forever
20-02-08, 12:13 AM
Yeh it was one of the ones that is right and then immediately left!
ASM-Forever
20-02-08, 12:15 AM
I agree completely. The system used should depend on who you are riding with and the groups abilities. I also find it distracting trying to find people in my mirrors especially when alot of the newbies sit directly behind you rather than slightly off center so you can see them.
I also know what our lot are like - if you slow for the person behind there is no way anyone in front of you will notice that you are not there until they are long gone. I say this from experience - isnt that how we lost ASM when I took the group to Marlow on the first meet?
If i'm honest i have to say that i didn't check my mirrors at all. Its only a few miles down the road to Henley(all one road) so i assumed you would all be right behind me/Phil. :D
As far as i know noone marked that junction!
There was no need to as it was only 20 yards up the road and he must have seen everyone head up it. If not where the hell was he looking? Poor obs doesn't cover it. :)
I marked it.
ASM-Forever
20-02-08, 12:24 AM
I marked it.
LMAO!
Then that guy has no excuse. :D
all i can and will say is lets do better......
The chances of new riders joing us are good, as summer is coming,
but we dont want to scare them off................
Is this a rufty tufty biker forum, or a kindergarten?
ASM-Forever
20-02-08, 12:34 AM
Is this a rufty tufty biker forum, or a kindergarten?
:smt048
DanAbnormal
20-02-08, 09:34 AM
Is this a rufty tufty biker forum, or a kindergarten?
It's an eel infested sausage factory by the looks of things.........:D
smegmunky
21-02-08, 09:41 PM
I cant make this sat now, gotta go see my parents to sort something out.
I'm well po'd about it tho, was looking forward to it!
Have a good ride, & I'll join you next time i hope
Cheers
I marked it.
Eeeeeuuuuuaaawwwww.
Oh - you sat there. I get it now. :p
Eeeeeuuuuuaaawwwww.
Oh - you shat there. I get it now. :p
Still warrants an Eeeeeuuuuuaaawwwww in my book, but an old grandad like that probably doesn't have the bowel control of a younger turk.
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