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Davies
16-02-08, 01:09 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7247470.stm


Next Ken will be charging us for the emissions that our fags give off depening on their strength.



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glsuk1970
16-02-08, 06:24 AM
It'll probably cost ?100 to produce each permit so an increase in tax will soon follow.

Stig
16-02-08, 07:24 AM
Now that is funny. This country really has gone down the oppressive route. It'll not be long before we are turned into a communist country and will not be able to do anything at all for fear of repercussion.

Fizzy Fish
16-02-08, 09:03 AM
Honestly WTF is that about?! :roll:

Jester666
16-02-08, 09:14 AM
Two simple solutions if it does come in.....

1 Buy all your tobacco overseas. Its cheaper anyway!

























2. REVOLUTION!! :twisted: Maybe sneaky stuff like in V for Vendetta! :lol:

Fizzy Fish
16-02-08, 09:16 AM
2. REVOLUTION!! :twisted:

you're just looking for an excuse for a bit of fighting & anarchy ;)

Stig
16-02-08, 09:18 AM
you're just looking for an excuse for a bit of fighting & anarchy ;)

No change there then. :lol:

Kinvig
16-02-08, 09:20 AM
If they want to stop people smoking surely they should make it harder for them to start in the first place - how about increasing the age limit to 18 like booze & voting?

the_lone_wolf
16-02-08, 09:42 AM
If they want to stop people smoking surely they should make it harder for them to start in the first place - how about increasing the age limit to 18 like booze & voting?
or make it a controlled substance...



**stands well back**

Paul the 6th
16-02-08, 09:49 AM
I'm all for it. And while we're at it, bring back the head tax. And window tax. And why not introduce a breathing permit at a reasonable price of around 10 quid a year to carry on breathing... *****s

Frank
16-02-08, 09:50 AM
If they want to stop people smoking surely they should make it harder for them to start in the first place - how about increasing the age limit to 18 like booze & voting?
the age limit for buying them is now 18.The problem now,is that most shops ask for proof of age if you look under 21.Sara got refused last week in Asda and she is 29.:confused:

Fizzy Fish
16-02-08, 09:56 AM
the age limit for buying them is now 18.The problem now,is that most shops ask for proof of age if you look under 21.Sara got refused last week in Asda and she is 29.:confused:

being refused sucks bigtime. the last time it happened to me i was 21 and had just split up with my then boyfriend 10 mins before and they would not sell me any fags grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! :lol:

Dicky Ticker
16-02-08, 10:06 AM
Very few people die of a one off session overindulging in fags which cannot be said of booze,it is just another hair brained scheme to fleece us. ALCHOHOL on the other hand can kill not just the partaker but the innocent by overindulging as is quite apparent by the alchohol fueled crime rate,so if we are going to have one lets have both,may even help to reduce drunkeness in the underage drinking fraternity,whereby reducing crime

[Perhaps not,as our Ken likes his midmorning tipple]

wyrdness
16-02-08, 10:47 AM
Honestly WTF is that about?! :roll:

It's about discouraging people, especially kids, from starting to smoke.
Which, IMO, is a good thing.

Fizzy Fish
16-02-08, 10:55 AM
It's about discouraging people, especially kids, from starting to smoke.
Which, IMO, is a good thing.

hmmm, I'm all for stopping kids from starting (and now you point it out, this would probably help), but they aren't talking about it in those terms - it seems to be more aimed at existing adult smokers.

My point is that if they want to make people stop that much, why aren't they banning it entirely? If they want to raise more money, why aren't they raising tax on cigarettes?

I can't see it making poeple stop who are existing regular smokers, but it will serve to be a hassle for them. Plus having done a lot of work with elderly people I know that some really struggle with this kind of admin faff, and really should we be forcing someone who's 90 to stop just because they don't understand how this all works?

I don't smoke myself anymore and am all for encouraging people to give up, but this just seems daft. Rather put the funding into more of the stop smoking clinics, which have helped several of my friends to quit.

Lissa
16-02-08, 10:58 AM
Maybe if all the stopping smoking aids weren't so prohibitively expensive, more people would stop.

A months supply of nicotine gum would cost me 7x what a months supply of tobacco would:rolleyes:

Fizzy Fish
16-02-08, 10:58 AM
Maybe if all the stopping smoking aids weren't so prohibitively expensive, more people would stop.

A months supply of nicotine gum would cost me 7x what a months supply of tobacco would:rolleyes:

exactamundo!

Xan173
16-02-08, 11:09 AM
How about some alternative ways to discourage smoking.....

Packets of fags should be packaged in the same way as small electrical items. You know, that plastic casing that needs an angle grinder to open it.

Or,

How about limiting the time when they can be sold (a bit like the old licensing laws). Mondays (excliding bank holidays) between 09:00-11:00.

Or,

How about a gun cabinet approach? Cigarettes have to be stored in a locked and fireproof box (like a little safe) making them difficult to carry away from home.


No, I'm not serious.

Flamin_Squirrel
16-02-08, 11:10 AM
It's about discouraging people, especially kids, from starting to smoke.
Which, IMO, is a good thing.

It's crap idea. It's usually poorer kids with rubbish parents that start smoking, meaning it's an indication of wider social problems which are far more serious.

But just like everything the f**kwits in the Labour party come up with it's just another poorly thought out exercise in trying to treat the symptom not the cause.

Fizzy Fish
16-02-08, 11:15 AM
How about limiting the time when they can be sold (a bit like the old licensing laws). Mondays (excliding bank holidays) between 09:00-11:00.


watch out for the resulting surge in violent crime on a Sunday evening!! :lol:

Ping
16-02-08, 12:52 PM
If that actually makes it into law I'm leaving. And I don't even smoke (anymore).


... If there are any aliens visiting the planet atm... Please...


TAKE ME WITH YOU............

yorkie_chris
16-02-08, 01:08 PM
Two simple solutions if it does come in.....

1 Buy all your tobacco overseas. Its cheaper anyway!



2. REVOLUTION!! :twisted: Maybe sneaky stuff like in V for Vendetta! :lol:

Already do! ?10 for a pack of tobacco, they're taking the pi$$.

I'm up for some general carnage, lets play :-D

It's about discouraging people, especially kids, from starting to smoke.
Which, IMO, is a good thing.

It's total b0llocks though, and heading toward a totalitarian state.

They've already got on their way to banning biking with this new test that makes it ridiculously expensive and difficult to get a license.

Personal freedom's are very rarely given back once they are taken.

Set of spineless, lying, money grabbing commie ba$tards need setting on fire.

metalmonkey
16-02-08, 03:40 PM
+1 Chris totally agree most of the laws in this country are knee jerk reactions, we don't need most of them and serve to undermine the people.....having been studying parts of law you wonder why, the law is an ass.

I don't think banning it would work, would just create a black market in it right now I would have though. Smoking not in pubs yes good idea, this is totally a wrong idea. I don't smoke it makes me ill, but I see as way of removing another freedom.

As for bikes, we are an easy target we have no big lobby groups so they do what they want, but I would hope they would never try to get rid of bikes, the new test is like why do we need it? What we have is fine now, its a form of control.

I don't enough about it, but has this come down from europe to standrised the test, or is our government at work again? Why are we of the only countries that does what europe says? We should attach our warships to this island and pull far away from europe its nothing but greif, along the way push a few a few people off, I would start with the government;)