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ljharmitt
10-03-08, 11:45 PM
Ok so after reading this thread
here (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=106020&page=8)
I know that the sv is no good for wheelies because of the oil starvation, so what would be a good bike to get on one wheel?
Obviously something with a lot of torque, probably a twin. What about the rsvr?
What are your suggestions?
Ok so after reading this thread
here (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=106020&page=8)
I know that the sv is no good for wheelies because of the oil starvation, so what would be a good bike to get on one wheel?
Obviously something with a lot of torque, probably a twin. What about the rsvr?
What are your suggestions?
Some of the Buell's are a popular bike amongst stunt riders due to the fact that they do not suffer from oil starvation.
ASM-Forever
11-03-08, 12:56 AM
Anything can be wheelied, its just a question of technique. The local scooter chavs demonstrate that with their 50cc peds.
You can always fiddle with the sprockets to make things easier as well.
Bike did a 5 most monotastic machines in an issue a while back. I'll see if i can dig it up for you.
gettin2dizzy
11-03-08, 07:53 AM
Speed triple. Could be expensive to drop though
the_lone_wolf
11-03-08, 09:36 AM
supermoto, doesn't matter which, they all have antigravity front wheels
dizzyblonde
11-03-08, 09:39 AM
Some of the Buell's are a popular bike amongst stunt riders due to the fact that they do not suffer from oil starvation.
its not hard to wheelie a Buell, a mate has got 2 and he only has to set off slow and its rearing up. Sure he does it on purpose, he is a bit of an animal!!
STRAMASHER
11-03-08, 09:51 AM
A Triumph RocketIII.
....if you are Kevin Carmicheal. See YowTube.:cool:
plowsie
11-03-08, 10:15 AM
With a bit of effort I can wheelie the CBR in first with a great big hefty pull up :D lol.
Personally I vote a Supermoto, they look a lot of fun :D :lol:
ASM-Forever
11-03-08, 01:47 PM
Anything can be wheelied, its just a question of technique. The local scooter chavs demonstrate that with their 50cc peds.
You can always fiddle with the sprockets to make things easier as well.
Bike did a 5 most monotastic machines in an issue a while back. I'll see if i can dig it up for you.
I couldnt find it, but from memory:
SV650n
Superduke
BMW K1200S
BMW R1200GS
Husqvarna SM450R
KTM 950R super enduro
KTM 950 supermoto
Kawasaki ZX6-R
2003 Fireblade
Buell Lightning
Street Triple
2002 Fazer 1000
Kawasaki Versys :eek:
My bike,
Husaberg FS650e,
Just pick any of the first four gears and twist the throttle!!
Only weighs 112kg and has 60bhp, Managed to get the front wheel in the air at 70mph in third or fourth gear off the thottle with no clutch! 8)
sv-robo
11-03-08, 03:25 PM
Anything can be wheelied, its just a question of technique.
You can always fiddle with the sprockets to make things easier as well.
i.
+1:smt045
yorkie_chris
11-03-08, 03:33 PM
Easiest to wheelie, or best stunter?
Get last months streetfighters, they had a big feature on it, the CBR600F did very well on account of its crashability. That's as a proper stunter though, not one for outside the local girls only 6th form. :-P
Dave The Rave
11-03-08, 03:37 PM
My Hairnet is keen to lift the front (on private roads only obviously).
DanAbnormal
11-03-08, 04:57 PM
My Hairnet is keen to lift the front (on private roads only obviously).
With a pillion it becomes almost impossible not to (at 7k rpm :D)
Anything with a clutch.
If you're buying a bike purely to do straight line wheelies, just buy a whopping great 1000cc and away you go.
If you wanna get serious with it, get a CBR 600 F, they're damn near bulletproof.
ethariel
11-03-08, 10:58 PM
1200 Bandit, one of the original ones with the screwed gearing, had to work at keeping the front wheel down not trying to get it up :P
yorkie_chris
11-03-08, 11:00 PM
That or a triallie, they're absolutely ace for it .... pick a gear, any gear ... what's a clutch for then?
-Ralph-
12-03-08, 11:57 AM
Tuono not been mentioned. No good then?
-Ralph-
12-03-08, 12:07 PM
With a pillion it becomes almost impossible not to (at 7k rpm :D)
Yeah, my wifes only 9 1/2 stone and with her on pillion the SV picks up its front wheel easily in first and second. Even in third into fourth if you accelerate into that 7-9k power band where the SV starts to put most of its power and torque down, in third, it'll lift an inch or two, sits down again whilst you change up gear, and then lifts again for a few moments at peak power/torque in fourth.
ljharmitt
15-04-08, 05:43 PM
How does the sv1000s work for wheelies?
How does the sv1000s work for wheelies?
When I first got mine I had all sorts of problems keeping the front end down as I was still using the throttle the same as on the 650. I don't set out to do wheelies however I have noticed it does tend to lift a little in the lower gears when you give it a hand-full especially when showing some boy-racer what real acceleration from the lights is all about.
basically:
V-Twin = good torque, but oil problems
IL4 = more power, less oil problems
SV = Good torque, really bad oil problems
Basically if you're just doing insanse pow pows then get whatever you want. if you wanna hold a wheelie for miles in one gear, get an IL4 (cough cough cbr600 cough)
Which bike to wheelie? Someone else's. That way you don't lose money when (not if) you stack it!
Wayluya
15-04-08, 09:19 PM
Big 4 stroke single trail bike......with no cr#p bodywork all over it.
I had an old (even at the time!) Honda XL500S
http://www.4strokes.com/guests/uploadpics/Xl_02.jpg
I have always been cr#p at wheelies - this thing made me look like Evel Kneival - just a matter of twisting the throttle as to how high yer wanted to be - and length was a matter of boredom.......
Big 4 stroke single trail bike......with no cr#p bodywork all over it.
I had an old (even at the time!) Honda XL500S
I have always been cr#p at wheelies - this thing made me look like Evel Kneival - just a matter of twisting the throttle as to how high yer wanted to be - and length was a matter of boredom.......
When I had my Gixer thou I used to call the throttle the 'wheelie height control device'
gettin2dizzy
16-04-08, 06:30 AM
When I had my Gixer thou I used to call the throttle the 'wheelie height control device'
I bet you got some funny looks :rolleyes:
ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 06:33 AM
basically:
V-Twin = good torque, but oil problems
IL4 = more power, less oil problems
SV = Good torque, really bad oil problems
Basically if you're just doing insanse pow pows then get whatever you want. if you wanna hold a wheelie for miles in one gear, get an IL4 (cough cough cbr600 cough)
V-twin in some cases.
If you go for the V990 armed bikes then youll be fine, the aprilia V1000's, RSV-R, mille, Falco, Tuono etc etc you can wheelie all day without any issues. With the dry sump they are always getting oiled :D.
+ All you have to do is wind on :cool: 4KRPM power wheelies? :smt042
the_lone_wolf
16-04-08, 07:20 AM
large capacity sportsbikes - great to get the wheel up, frustrating when you blow another fork seal after chopping the throttle shut because the powerband is too peaky...
single cylinder SM, 10"+ suspension travel, light engine dumping plenty of torque into a light chassis just a few rpm from tickover, chop the throttle? who cares, it's basically an MX bike... drop it/loop it? just pick it up and try again
funny this thead should pop up again, i spent most of yesterday practising getting the front wheel up off the clutch, easy and painless on the DRZ, but i wouldn't want to abuse my SV suspension like that, or pick up the bill when i drop it...
raptor 1000 seems to want to do it - im too scared to let it
GSXR Carlos
16-04-08, 02:45 PM
Any bike will wheelie, but v-twins are no good due to oil starvation, it depends if you're looking for balance point wheelies, or just picking the front end up when you feel like it
any sports 6 will be good, try and find a cheap F-Sport to practice on, they're indestructable and cheap for parts
Alpinestarhero
16-04-08, 06:00 PM
Any twin will have oil starvation at the front cylinder, I assume.
A bandit would be great for wheelies
I used to get some good ones from a C90
Matt
ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 10:43 PM
Any twin will have oil starvation at the front cylinder, I assume.
A bandit would be great for wheelies
I used to get some good ones from a C90
Matt
No Aprilia's V60 Rotax engine doesnt get oil starvation problems thanks to its Dry sump. ;)
yorkie_chris
16-04-08, 10:47 PM
I wouldn't say a dry sump completely eliminates it, the scavenge pump still has to pick the oil up from somewhere :-P
ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 11:04 PM
I wouldn't say a dry sump completely eliminates it, the scavenge pump still has to pick the oil up from somewhere :-P
It carries 4 liters in its external sump... Id be getting worried if none of that gets put back into the sump once its left.
Dry sump lubrication, for a more rigid and compact sump than wet sump engines, with no risk of lubrication failure under near-the-limit track conditions (fierce acceleration and braking, wheelies). The RSV Mille engine is equipped with a second trochoidal pump on the return line, a separate oil reservoir, and an oil cooler mounted in front of the engine.
Here is the site I managed to get from... (http://forums.sv650.org/=[URL=)
any sports 6 will be good, try and find a cheap F-Sport to practice on, they're indestructable and cheap for parts
cheap for parts? Yeah if you can find them! seat units and rear seats are like hen's teeth.
the_lone_wolf
17-04-08, 06:56 AM
I wouldn't say a dry sump completely eliminates it, the scavenge pump still has to pick the oil up from somewhere :-P
not if the design keeps the oil in the front of the frame when the bike is running
well designed oil system = long wheelies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvTRZADFKAM
gettin2dizzy
17-04-08, 07:19 AM
Just get a traverse mounted V-Twin
yorkie_chris
17-04-08, 09:48 AM
CX500 stunter lmao!!
GSXR Carlos
18-04-08, 09:24 AM
CB500 would be worth a shot, but i've never tried one
TheStudent
25-04-08, 10:34 PM
I've been riding my curvy about a year, it's my first bike and is unrestricted. Lately i do admit i have been toying with the throttle seeing if the front wheel wants to lift, i know... I'm an organ donor not a biker blah blah.... but the front wheel has come up at some traffic lights once before about two weeks after i got the bike, lets just say i made a fool of myself and nearly ended up in a hedge. Hence i think it would be useful to know how to wheelie so I could deal with one to be honest?
My main question is, can some kind of oil pickup be purchased to sort the starvation issue? Where from, prices etc.
Tom :)
Dave The Rave
25-04-08, 10:44 PM
I've been riding my curvy about a year, it's my first bike and is unrestricted. Lately i do admit i have been toying with the throttle seeing if the front wheel wants to lift, i know... I'm an organ donor not a biker blah blah.... but the front wheel has come up at some traffic lights once before about two weeks after i got the bike, lets just say i made a fool of myself and nearly ended up in a hedge. Hence i think it would be useful to know how to wheelie so I could deal with one to be honest?
My main question is, can some kind of oil pickup be purchased to sort the starvation issue? Where from, prices etc.
Tom :)
Unless you are doing standing up wheelies for miles there is no issue with the oil starvation IMO.
You can't get one for the sv, just run the oil to the top of the sight glass and you'll be fine for what you're doing.
v-twin luke
26-04-08, 12:36 PM
no,no,no guys get a superduke
dirtydog
26-04-08, 01:09 PM
raptor 1000 seems to want to do it - im too scared to let it
The Raptor pretty much eggs you on to do it, or maybe that's just me? :smt077
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