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hi has anyone got any basic settings for the zx10 rear shock, or settings that have worked well on theres. cheers in advance mark.:D
Luckypants
12-03-08, 05:16 PM
I put all the damping adjustment to baseline (center) and set the sag to 35mm. Worked well for the short time before I crashed. (about 1.5K miles) I am not a good enough rider to feel differences the adjustment made. My riding is on the road, so does not push the shock that hard (although I am lardy)
Dunno if that helps!
Robw#70
12-03-08, 11:52 PM
Set it up in the bin and save for a proper shock intended for the bike
21QUEST
13-03-08, 12:07 AM
Set it up in the bin and save for a proper shock intended for the bike
:scratch: :lol:
Ben
yorkie_chris
13-03-08, 12:48 AM
Set it up in the bin and save for a proper shock intended for the bike
When the interest on ?40 worth of ZX10R shock gets up to the ?400 odd quid for an ohlins, WP or maxton shock then I doubt there'd be an SV left to put it on....
Bodging can work very well on the road, we're not all ragging SV's round a track with a massive budget.
21QUEST
13-03-08, 01:11 AM
When the interest on ?40 worth of ZX10R shock gets up to the ?400 odd quid for an ohlins, WP or maxton shock then I doubt there'd be an SV left to put it on....
Bodging can work very well on the road, we're not all ragging SV's round a track with a massive budget.
Granted I found Robs reply funny but good point and well made.
End of the day SV is a bike that does pretty well(IMO) with OE suspension ie does what it say on the tin.
In saying that, it's funny how peeps will spend millions(okay slight exaggeration there :mrgreen:) on tartifying :-s their bike but yet think spending £400 or what ever on the suspension is too much...funny thing the human brain hehe.
To be honest , most of the peeps who will scoff at the use of a shock from another bike are selling/working on bouncy bits....lets just say, they have been spoilt but that is not to say the 'bodges' errr sorry, 'redesign of original specification' ;-) don't work.....no matter what anyone says.
Ben
fit it and take it to your local friendly bike tuners to have it set up for you, prob only cost a few quid.
I am thinking of taking my Kwak to JHS to have it done.
Set it up in the bin and save for a proper shock intended for the bike
wow im glad i asked now!:why:
due to the fact that not all of us have up to £400 quid to spend on a rear shock i think ill stick with the zx10 shock, but thank you so much for your intelligent input to this thread!:D
thanxs for the usefull (not useless) replys
cheers mark.
yorkie_chris
13-03-08, 09:34 AM
In saying that, it's funny how peeps will spend millions(okay slight exaggeration there :mrgreen:) on tartifying :-s their bike
It was only a fiver for a can of black spraypaint! :-D
Set the sag properly, for you, that is the rear should be sat about 25-33% down it's travel when you're sat on it with a mate holding the bike.
For most bikes there's something like 10cm of travel from top to bottom travel when measured at the rear wheel axel.
For the damping set both rebound and compression somewhere in the middle and work from there ;)
Robw#70
13-03-08, 01:49 PM
my point is that kwak shocks have been bad for years with no consistancy, one will have way too much rebound the next not enough and the same on compression.
there are good shocks about for £300 and the difference is dramatic, the spring may be in the ball park but noone takes in to consideration the leverage ratio of the linkage which will effect the damping higher up the shocks stroke, with too much or not enough high speed damping.
just cant see the point of doing a half job when doing it right is so much better
I have my Ohlins on the way Rob (thanks for your help over the phone by the way) but it wont be here until April 10th at least apparently ! aaaargh.
So I have a race to do before then on the GSXR1000 shock. I was going to go with mid settings on damping all round and see where we go from there until the nice kit turns up.
Good thing is that I'll be able to compare back to back in a around 4 weeks.
Altho i should be flamed, banned, tarred and feathered for asking this.
The GSXR1000 shock, i assume this will only fit the Sv1000.
I'd be some what interested in replacing my back shock, it's stock, and acceptable, but if i could upgrade it to some thing else with out splashing a fortune much like the OP i would.
Altho i should be flamed, banned, tarred and feathered for asking this.
The GSXR1000 shock, i assume this will only fit the Sv1000.
I'd be some what interested in replacing my back shock, it's stock, and acceptable, but if i could upgrade it to some thing else with out splashing a fortune much like the OP i would.
not at all, it will fit the SV650 pretty easily too. There are a few minor mods required such as the bottom of the battery box but other than that no problem.
not at all, it will fit the SV650 pretty easily too. There are a few minor mods required such as the bottom of the battery box but other than that no problem.
I may consider taking your one off you if the price is right ;)
once you get ure new ohlins, assume you want.
The battery box mod is pretty common, and i assume the gsxr shock is in general quite good, as they do say, those gixers stick to the road quite well.
d.
I may consider taking your one off you if the price is right ;)
once you get ure new ohlins, assume you want.
The battery box mod is pretty common, and i assume the gsxr shock is in general quite good, as they do say, those gixers stick to the road quite well.
d.
of course, was going to pop it on here for sale first as soon as my race shock arrives. Only reason I'm changing is that the GSXR shock is not up to the job of racing on an SV650.
of course, was going to pop it on here for sale first as soon as my race shock arrives. Only reason I'm changing is that the GSXR shock is not up to the job of racing on an SV650.
Exactally and i believe thats the OP's point also, if you';re not racing then there no point in splashing out £400+ for a shock when chances are you wont notice the diff.
yorkie_chris
13-03-08, 05:30 PM
my point is that kwak shocks have been bad for years with no consistancy, one will have way too much rebound the next not enough and the same on compression.
there are good shocks about for £300 and the difference is dramatic, the spring may be in the ball park but noone takes in to consideration the leverage ratio of the linkage which will effect the damping higher up the shocks stroke, with too much or not enough high speed damping.
just cant see the point of doing a half job when doing it right is so much better
Yeah you've got a point, but I can't afford £300. How much would a revalve be? or is that getting to the point where you might as well pay for a designed-for-purpose aftermarket shock?
What's the 636 shock like?
northwind
15-03-08, 04:13 PM
my point is that kwak shocks have been bad for years with no consistancy, one will have way too much rebound the next not enough and the same on compression.
It is quite funny that for a long time the favourite shock for the curvy SV- 03-04 636- was also the absolute worst shock fitted to any of the supersport bikes, by a country mile... Though to be fair, having ridden that 636 and an SV with the shock in, the shock seemed to suit the SV better than the donor bike! I'd like to try this with the more recent 636 shock though.
My advice for any sort of suspension setup is- set the sag right, stick it in the middle, fanny about with everything else. You can get some horrible results with a fully adjustable shock doing this (particularily as for the inexperienced, which is what I am, it's very easy to adjust the wrong setting- for instance mine was squatty so I increased the compression damping, but the problem was that it had far too much rebound damping so the shock would "pack" over bumps and still be compressed from the last one when it hit the next. So, now I had too much rebound AND too much compression damping 8-[)
So, if that doesn't sound like fun to you, consider taking it to a pro- but remember a lot of places aren't going to be too happy to work on such a compromised setup.
No matter what, any shock swap like this will always be a compromise, in fact even with a mass produced bike the suspension is always a compromise- and don't think that just because it's adjustable you'll get a perfect setup. The idea of the swas has never been to do it perfectly, it's to do a ?40 job reasonably well. Which I think it does, personally- I have Ohlins and WP shock for the SV but I could be happy enough on a 636 one.
BlackMage23
27-03-08, 08:36 PM
This seemed like a good place to post.
What year zx10 shocks will go on a curvy SV?
I have seen an 04 one on ebay, and wondered if it would fit. or is there a better non Ohlins shock to use.
Also have anyone got a pic of what needs to be cut away on the battery box? and how much do you need to raise the battery up?
04 or 05 will fit a curvey i've just picked up one from flebay for a princely sum of 60 of your english monies... i'm not sure off hand what needs to be cut off.. and i'd say the zx10r is prob the best, as it's the same length shock as the stock one.
basically about an inch square of the left hand front side of the battrey tray as you sit on the bike, you have got to make room for the reservoir. i raised my battery up about 2-3 cm, you can see what needs to be removed when its on the bike.hth
cheers mark.
Mike2165
28-03-08, 07:09 AM
You also need a new nut and bolt for the bottom mounting, the curvey shock has a threaded mount. Available from Kwak dealer for about £2. I got a zx10r shock on mine, feels better than the standard, but not set up as such, so should feel even better when it is
Blue_SV650S
28-03-08, 09:44 AM
It is quite funny that for a long time the favourite shock for the curvy SV- 03-04 636- was also the absolute worst shock fitted to any of the supersport bikes, by a country mile... Though to be fair, having ridden that 636 and an SV with the shock in, the shock seemed to suit the SV better than the donor bike! I'd like to try this with the more recent 636 shock though.
+1, the B1 shock works surprisingly well!! 8)
Ok, so the SV and ZX636 ARE different bikes, so the OE shocks intended for both will have characteristics to suit. This may or may not translate well in a different bike. However, in this instance, the fact it wasn’t right for the intended fitment, may well have actually fluked out that it seems pretty good in the SV i.e. it was wrong for the ZX, but by sheer luck just right for the SV!! 8)
I can only speak for the ZX636B1 shock as that is all I have tried, the GSXR and ZX10 shocks could well be a mare :shock: – but lets face it, there is a pretty good chance they will be fine/good, certainly better than the OE SV shock!! 8)
Fact is the SV rear shock is so basic, it is not hard to find a shock that will out perform it. ;)
But when all is said and done, my SV has stock shock and stock forks (bar the 13w oil I put in them) and sure, its not perfect, but perfectly rideable!! :)
GSXR1000 Shock bolt and mount £5 incl postage, part No’s:
Bolt - 10x55 part # 09103-10143
nut - part # 08319-31107
Stolen info from another thread
markmoto
15-04-08, 02:49 PM
Another point to note that because bikes come from the factory with springs hard enough to also cope with a passenger so this is a big compromise i have always founds most bikes are way to hard on the rear when ive been riding solo i,e 99.9% of the time. a cheap compromise would be a gsxr or zx10r shock with a spring to match your weight.
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