Costing Up A Rebuild

[squirrel_hunter]

I was given the sad news that me SV was terminal a couple of weeks ago. So I went out and bought another one.

This has left me with an SV thats currently not safe for the road. Thus I was told I should sell it as spares/ repair.But I need to wait until I get a couple of bits sent up to me to put it back to standard so I can sell it.

So its been sitting in the garage for a couple of weeks. No harm in that you might think, but every time I go in the garage I remember the good ol days and while the new one is settling in I long for a familiar machine. Thus I am considering rebuilding it meself. But to make a decision I need some prices, and thats where you guys come in. I'm after estimate or firm prices (linky linky preferred) for the following...


Engine (if the spare is goosed)
Exhaust (down pipes)
Carbs
Wiring Loom (new)
Rear Caliper
Front Brake Overhaul (piston and seals)
Front Brake Lines
Throttle Cables
Choke Cable
Rear Shock
Swing Arm (if a clean shows anything up)
Swing Arm Bearings
Front Wheel Bearings
Sub Frame (can you say rusty?)
Full Frame Powder CoatIgnore consumables like oil and coolant but feel free to make suggestions on all aspects. The bike is a '99 plate with 70,000 on the clock use that as a guide to condition. Body work is considered out of scope, cause if I do this I have a little idea from up in the garage rafters.

[Lozzo]

Engine (if the spare is goosed)
Exhaust (down pipes)
Carbs
Wiring Loom (new)
Rear Caliper
Front Brake Overhaul (piston and seals)
Front Brake Lines
Throttle Cables
Choke Cable
Rear Shock
Swing Arm (if a clean shows anything up)
Swing Arm Bearings
Front Wheel Bearings
Sub Frame (can you say rusty?)
Full Frame Powder Coat

Call it a day, break it for spares - you'll get more for it that way and save yourself a bundle in future bills.

[yorkie_chris]

Front brake overhaul is a few ££

http://shop.wemoto.com/index.dyn?oid=1915475

Post them to me and I'll do them for you cheap if you want

[Red Herring]

Looks like a big list to me. Is this accident damage (sounds like a fire) or just wear and tear? Reason I ask is I notice you have left off the forks and wheels, and these are the bits likely to get you the most money if you break it. If they are Ok I'd break it, in fact if they are not then it definately isn't worth rebuilding!

[Dangerous Dave]

Re look at your list and decide which is really vital to get the SV back on the road again, I doubt the powder coating is a must have for the frame!!! You can get the SV back on the road first and then consider the looks of it.

Search Flea Bay for some of the items but in my opinion look at new throttle cables. You can do the brakes yourself, follow step by step instructions in a manual if you have to (there is no shame in that as we all have to learn form somewhere), it is s simple job. I wouldn't say no to Chris' offer also if you do not feel confident to do it, he's a very good mechanic from what I have heard.

For SV spares try www.svspares.com (http://www.svspares.com), they are based in Bristol but they ship nation wide and have a variety of parts from a little tatty to mint.

[Ceri JC]

Call it a day, break it for spares - you'll get more for it that way and save yourself a bundle in future bills.

What he said. Try to overcome the emotional ties to it, I don't think it makes sense financially to fix it. Even if you'll run it till it goes bang (again) and never intend to sell it, it'll start to get expensive soon to repair given the mileage, even after these current repairs are carried out. If you really like the aesthetics of the old model, sell this one as spares and buy a circa 30,000 mile bike of the same year/colour. A 30K curvy will be fairly cheap and should last longer than fixing this one would.

[yorkie_chris]

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=103356&highlight=suzy+nekkid

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=103561&highlight=suzy+bares&page=2

It can be done... What do you want, Cheap, quick or good? Pick any 2.

[JonnyBoy]

I'd say that it depends what you what to build:
If you have a mad special project in mind (streetfighter, trackbike...) go for it. It will be more cost effective to break it or sell it as it is (breaking the bike yourself also requires loads of time) but bikes are not about reason.

To my opinion, if you want to bring it back to the way it was - don't bother. The SV is a rock solid bike and there are plenty of great bikes in great nick from the old models.

[Viney]

Engine (if the spare is goosed) - Approx £400 on ebay
Exhaust (down pipes) - Just the fornt down pipe? £30 Brakers
Carbs - £40 approx - Ebay £60 breakers
Wiring Loom (new) - Dunno
Rear Caliper - £30 Breakers
Front Brake Overhaul (piston and seals) - Aboput £30 a caliper (Weemoto/Suzuki spares)
Front Brake Lines - £around £50 depending on type
Throttle Cables - £13 each Suzuki spares
Choke Cable - £29 Suzuki spares
Rear Shock - New £400 for an Ohlins Used? £50 from ebay/breakers
Swing Arm (if a clean shows anything up) £100 Breakers
Swing Arm Bearings - £30-50 ish Suzuki spares
Front Wheel Bearings - £20 suzuki spares
Sub Frame (can you say rusty?) - Yes, £50 or there abouts
Full Frame Powder Coat - Lots Say £100-£150 depending on colour and company etcTry these palces
www.weemoto.co.uk (http://www.weemoto.co.uk) - Shop
www.sparesdirect.co.uk (http://www.sparesdirect.co.uk)
www.svspares.com (http://www.svspares.com) - Breakers

[jambo]

So you're happy with the headlight, clocks and handlebars then....

I'd decide what you want it to be at the end, if you wat to replace all of the duff parts and make it perfect, I really wouldn't bother it'll be a massive job.

Jambo

PS: At some point it becomes a bit like "Trigger's Broom" as in you've replaced everything anyway, so what was the point in restoring the bike?

[yorkie_chris]

Or... better the devil you know?

If you rebuild a bike then you know exactly whats on it etc

[Sosha]

I'd say not worth it unless you fancy a project... and the spare engine's a goer can you cull the list?
Carbs - ?
Wiring Loom (new) ?
Rear Caliper - ?
Front Brake Lines -?
Throttle Cables - consumable
Choke Cable - consumable
Swing Arm (if a clean shows anything up) - ?
Sub Frame (can you say rusty?) - paint it....
Full Frame Powder Coat - tart :p

[yorkie_chris]

I'd say pull it to bits and see what you can get away with leaving off and still have a runner.

That or give it to me :-P

[northwind]

This'll sound like a joke, but with the number of parts there the most economic way to sort that one would be to buy another one and use it as a donor. Dead serious- a lot of carbed SVs are worth more in parts now than complete.

[dizzyblonde]

Well as my lovely suzy is coming back to me, I'd say if you love the bike a lot then go for it, but I will say that cause I've just rebuilt mine...coughs....chris rebuilt mine. Its cost me an absolute arm and a leg, really has, and I really don't care cause i love that bike to pieces. Yes I have another that I could donored from or vice versa, but, they're both decent.
She is never going to be a minter, shes still got a lot of warts, but, my budget couldn't stretch to full on bling mobile.





Oh and its just cost me around about a grand to put her back to....not as rusty.
HTH

[yorkie_chris]

A grand, but please note it could have been done FAR cheaper.

[dizzyblonde]

yes..sorry luv, that wasn't how much the basic rebuild cost, it was the bling bits, and new shocks front and rear etc. Chris was paid a very reasonable amount, but TBH his services were worth a lot more, as she was an absolute cow to dismantle......oh and the calipers...now thats another time consuming event

[phil24_7]

I got some pointy brake lines you can have cheap.

[squirrel_hunter]

Thanks for the replies. I consider myself mechanically (in)competent so will be doing all the work myself with the occasional help of the MoFo Mechanical Expedition (guys thats a hint). So that why I'm not costing labor.

Thanks for the links and the prices. There are also some PM heading back soon. But now to answer some spesifics...

Looks like a big list to me. Is this accident damage (sounds like a fire) or just wear and tear?

Now thats funny. I have been practicing dismounts on this bike so thats part of the reason. But the current engine is Foobar, plus there is a lot of wear due to the millage.

So you're happy with the headlight, clocks and handlebars then....


Yep, they've escaped (mostly). Though if I do rebuild I have a second phase headlight idea.


PS: At some point it becomes a bit like "Trigger's Broom" as in you've replaced everything anyway, so what was the point in restoring the bike?


Would it surprise you if I tell you your not the first one to make that comparison?

[squirrel_hunter]

I've got no project idea in mind for this but I think Chris is thinking what I'm thinking with the below...

Or... better the devil you know?

If you rebuild a bike then you know exactly whats on it etc

[squirrel_hunter]

Now as I haven't decided fully what to do, would like to rebuild but know I shouldn't I am wondering one other thing...

Considering the major fault list above (probably forgot a few things like the chipped rims, and every panel including the tank being damaged etc) what is worth?

[21QUEST]

Now as I haven't decided fully what to do, would like to rebuild but know I shouldn't I am wondering one other thing...

......

The important but as folks have said, is to decide exactly what you want from the bike. I'll agree that, if wanting to put it back to standard/original spec, then it's more than prolly not worth bothering.

From what I've taken from your posts, best is to loose all the plastics anyway. Use clipons if you must but rid of plastics.

You can get a bike looking pretty good without unnecesary expense of tartyfication(yeah I know, I'm one to talk :lol:).....wee dents add character anyhoos...no? :) .

The most important bits are chassis and engine. If you need a new engine, then that's a big part of any budget taken up. I'll say, any decision you make will hinge largely on, if you have a good engine.


As the crazy hehe Chris says, it is very possible to do it cheaply(again IMO depends on if you have a working engine). Looking at Vineys prices(some a touch pessimistic), I reckon well under ?400/?500will see a bike that goes as it should and still look, not shabby.

Leave out the powder coating unless you really go to school on it......if that is the case then any thoughts on economics have to largely go out of the window ;)

Regards what it's worth, prolly not much it seems. From your posts, it would appear any money from breaking it, will be from
Forks
Wheels
Discs
Front foot pegs hangers
gear shift and brake levers
Front subframe(if straight)

What you wuld actually get from the above, will depend on condition(obvious I know) and time you have available....ie , do you have enough time on your hands to tell someone offerring you, say, a ?10 for the forks to 'feck off' :mrgreen:

Hmmm, the more I think about it, prolly best to just split it and then keep an eye out for another one(perhaps in winter). You possible only need to add a couple of squid by then to ge something in better shape and also leaving you without the aggro of spending loads of time(we all know how we can end up spending silly amount of time mincing with the bleeding things lol)

That said by the time winter is here, you may have fallen in love with a pointy :sick: :lol:

Anyhoos , enough waffling from me ;) . If and when you decide what you want from the bike, post up as you have and we may have more to suggest. The key here as I said , is the engine being okay.



Ben

[hlaf_lyfe]

ill buy it off you, how much you after?

[TSM]

make it a track bike, look at my sv for pointers or just drop it a few times

[jambo]

Dear God Ric,
9 months on from the last post, that's worth a little something:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/102/threadnecromancyns1nf0.jpg

:mrgreen:
Jambo

[TSM]

ahh woops, duno how i did that, i did not search for anything