C1 Motoczysz motogp bike

[zunkus]

http://www.motoczysz.com/images/photos/bike/rear_3_4.jpg
http://www.motoczysz.com/images/photos/bike/rear_shock.jpg
http://www.motoczysz.com/images/photos/07c1/c1_07_side.jpg
http://www.motoczysz.com/images/photos/vegas5.jpg
http://www.motoczysz.com/images/photos/knee_lvms.jpg
Last night DISCOVERY CHANNEL showed a documentary about the C1 Motoczysz motogp bike.
Don't know if you've ever heard of this project but it's a single man's dream who with his help of his father built his own bike. This he started in his own garage using simple equipment and tools but later hired professionals to build up a super racer with the intention of finally taking on the big boys, HONDA, YAMAHA, DUCATI, SUZUKI in motogp. If you want to know more about this go to the links below...

http://www.motoczysz.com/club/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKvXuRXYyxw

http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=home

Hope they do manage to end up competitively racing it. Its a great looking bike.
Innovative technology.

[ThEGr33k]

What class did this race in? Not MotoGP...

[Dan]

How the hell do you pronounce it, is what I'd like to know.

[Alpinestarhero]

A motogp bike needs to compete in motogp to be a motogp bike

This hasnt been in motogp yet....

I remain sceptical until I see it race established fast bikes (MotoGP or superbikes). Also, isnt the inline four engine arranged so the cylinders are front to back, not side to side?

Matt

[zunkus]

A motogp bike needs to compete in motogp to be a motogp bike
This hasnt been in motogp yet....
I remain sceptical until I see it race established fast bikes (MotoGP or superbikes). Also, isnt the inline four engine arranged so the cylinders are front to back, not side to side?
Matt
These guys are working hard to get it to a fighting chance so credit should be shown lads. Aren't we all tired of seeing the same brands at the paddock? They've recently broken the 220BHP barrier so things are looking up. Check out their site for more information. Jeremy McWilliams rode it, loved it and raved on its handling. Yes the engine is also a strange beast, its got twin cranks that revolve one against the other to neutralise vibration and gyroscopic forces.

...taken from MOTORCYCLE.COM

Jeremy McWilliams easily the most experienced test rider in the industry rode the MotoCzysz 07 C1-990 for the first time in a private test at the Miller Motorsports Park in Tooele, UT June 20, 2007. McWilliams, whose test and development experience includes the Aprilia cube MotoGP bike, both KR 3 cylinder 2-stroke and 5 cylinder 4-stroke machines, BMW's 990 and 800 MotoGP prototypes, the Buell XB9RR and the Ilmor 800 MotoGP machine.
Jeremy told a journalist after his ride that the C1 was "the best turning bike ever".
MotoCzysz has become increasingly confident that Czysz's theories were actually resulting in a better turning motorcycle.
"We can now consider the design the frozen for the first model and focus entirely on finial engine development and prepare the bike for production. Listening to Jeremy talk about how easy it was to turn or transition our bike in comparison with everything he has ridden was simply one of the best things I have ever heard" said Michael Czysz.
Jeremy went on to say;
"I thoroughly enjoyed my outing on MC's prototype, firstly I was surprised at how nimble the bike turned, steered and changed direction. My feeling was that this Motorcycle easily took the least amount of effort for a bike of this capacity to fire it into a turn, to steer into the apex of that turn needed little effort. It really came into its own when I was pushing through the Chicane at Miller, in this type of turn the MotoCzysz changes direction with minimal input and I always found that I had room to push harder."
"It was refreshing to work with such enthusiastic designers and the future has to be good for one of the best looking sport bikes I've had the pleasure to test..."
For additional information and photos from the test with McWilliams, please visit the MotoCzysz blog at www.motoczysz.com/club (http://www.motoczysz.com/club)

[shonadoll]

I saw that documentary too, it was fascinating. Kudos to that guy, he's really putting his all into this - it would be great to see some different competition.

Interesting about the gyroscopic effect too, that is a great idea.

[shonadoll]

How the hell do you pronounce it, is what I'd like to know.


Moto-sizz

[Dangerous Dave]

I know the prototype ran a cut up and rearranged production (GSXR I think) engine and thats not aloud in MotoGP now, it must all be prototype in the engine department! Any one know if this version is running a completely scratch built engine?

The it must all be prototype rule came in the year after the WCM got banded briefly for having R1 casings!

[zunkus]

I know the prototype ran a cut up and rearranged production (GSXR I think) engine and thats not aloud in MotoGP now, it must all be prototype in the engine department! Any one know if this version is running a completely scratch built engine?
The it must all be prototype rule came in the year after the WCM got banded briefly for having R1 casings!

I think you're a bit confused DD. What they did do is fit an R1 with their own innovative front suspenssion which uses only one shock and spring set between the fork legs, so they could test the system out before fitting it to the actual bike. At the time their engine was still in the making. The system worked and ended up fitted to the actual bike.

MotoCzysz made their own Engine
Configuration: Twin Crank/ Triple OHC/Wet Deep Sump
Type: Z-Line 4

Nothing like it mate, so as prototype as you'd like.

[ThEGr33k]

Erm... Is that 220BHP on a 800 or the 990?

I dont mean to try and put out the fire but most of the bikes jeremy have riden havnt been competative. Aprilia cube MotoGP bike failed misurably :(, both KR 3 cylinder 2-stroke Good but still no where near modern and 5 cylinder 4-stroke machines Erm..., BMW's 990 and 800 They are hard to comment on but the fact they arnt racing must mean something MotoGP prototypes, the Buell XB9RR Hmmm another one which is hard to comment on, it hasnt done well in races but that might be down to the engine and the Ilmor 800 No need to comment. So all in you cant really tell till it hits the motogp Padock. But all the luck to the fella's. Even if they are yanks :p

[ASM-Forever]

Fair play for the effort, but i can't ever see it in MotoGP. Ilmor folded as they couldn't get enough sponsorship...so how the hell will these guys?

Personally i don't like the look of it either.

[laMon]

How the hell do you pronounce it, is what I'd like to know.

motochysh;)

[zunkus]

I dont mean to try and put out the fire...

All your comments are fair and practical I must agree. Something gives me the impression though is that there is a technological barrier allright but more so there are money issues involved. Somethings not right. Great amounts of money seem to be needed for a team to stay there. I think if there is a good foundation in a bike things can improve for a it by time. Kenny did prove that although relatively small he did give the big boys a run for their money now and then given half a chance. I'm worried that MotoGp is turning too much into another Formula1 (boring) circus. Same old manufacturers. Where are the good old days where you had all sorts of bikes adding romanticism and glamor to it all?

[Spike1105]

saw it, loved it, was inspired lol

it wasnt an r1 with the sizz front end it was a mv agusta f4, and i think the engine was there own cos they had cosworth engineer's designing it and problems with the initial castings, thats fairing is nevre gona be slipery enough for gp, that will need 2 be redesigned, love all the inovative things in it tho, front and rear suspension especially

[Stu]

Also, isnt the inline four engine arranged so the cylinders are front to back, not side to side?

Matt
No!


HTH :)