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Warthog
17-03-08, 10:23 PM
Philbut's insurance allows him to ride any other bike third party apparently for no extra cost. I want to try out his bike but I can't for the life of me find on my policy or the web whether Bennetts bike insurance allow you to ride other peoples bikes third party? Anyone know? Is it a common thing?

rictus01
17-03-08, 10:26 PM
did you ask for it ? I've found on alot of policies it's not there, one of the ways they save premium costs, if it's not on your policy then you don't have it.

Cheers Mark.

tigersaw
17-03-08, 10:39 PM
My C Nash says it right there on the insurance certificate in plain english - so if you can't see it I doubt its there

dizzyblonde
17-03-08, 10:44 PM
carol nash supply it as standard anyway don't they( if you've a full license) its always been on mine. Bennets are funny oniions, so they'd probably not let you, unless you pay em 50 million groats for the pleasure

Lozzo
17-03-08, 11:11 PM
It's wise to check to see if you'll be covered. I found that some insurers that CN broker don't give any bike cover, and most of Bennetts don't. E=bike don't offer it at all.

ASM-Forever
17-03-08, 11:13 PM
Im with CN, insurer axa and i can ride other bikes. Not that its relevant or helpful to you Nick. ;)

Warthog
17-03-08, 11:21 PM
Its not on my policy specifically so I guess no luck :(

tigersaw
18-03-08, 05:21 AM
E=bike don't offer it at all.

Which is a turn around, as they used to make a big thing out of 'ride your mates bike'

rictus01
18-03-08, 06:10 AM
Which is a turn around, as they used to make a big thing out of 'ride your mates bike'

I'd guess that resulted in to many claims then :smt103

Cheers Mark.

Durbs
18-03-08, 07:41 AM
Just phone them up and give them the reg and they shouldnt charge you owt. Done this a few times with my car policy when i've had to borrow motors and they just ask how long i'll be driving it for and add it temporarily. Never been charged for it.

Lozzo
18-03-08, 10:01 AM
I'd guess that resulted in to many claims then :smt103

Cheers Mark.

Taken from E-Bike's FAQ pages
Q: Can I ride other bikes? Am I covered third party to ride any bike? Can I ride a friend?s bike? Can I get temporary cover on someone else?s bike?
A: No.

We do not provide a 'Riding Other Bikes' extension on the policy.

The 'Riding of any bike not belonging to the policyholder' cover was originally designed for emergency use only and misuse has resulted in an increase in claims due to riders having a go on an unfamiliar bike and then crashing it (eg, someone who has just passed their test riding their mate's R1).

This in turn would have a knock on effect to all policy holders and increase insurance premiums - which is something we all want to avoid!

At eBike, we are trying to minimise costs to provide realistic premiums - if we introduce this cover across the board, premiums will go up for everyone.

We are however looking to introduce a scheme whereby people who want this cover can pay an extra premium to have it - this is still some way off though.

DanAbnormal
18-03-08, 10:04 AM
I was with Bennetts up until this year and was always told that they will not insure you on other bikes. I doubt that has changed.

Warthog
18-03-08, 12:14 PM
Taken from E-Bike's FAQ pages
Q: Can I ride other bikes? Am I covered third party to ride any bike? Can I ride a friend?s bike? Can I get temporary cover on someone else?s bike?
A: No.

We do not provide a 'Riding Other Bikes' extension on the policy.

The 'Riding of any bike not belonging to the policyholder' cover was originally designed for emergency use only and misuse has resulted in an increase in claims due to riders having a go on an unfamiliar bike and then crashing it (eg, someone who has just passed their test riding their mate's R1).

This in turn would have a knock on effect to all policy holders and increase insurance premiums - which is something we all want to avoid!

At eBike, we are trying to minimise costs to provide realistic premiums - if we introduce this cover across the board, premiums will go up for everyone.

We are however looking to introduce a scheme whereby people who want this cover can pay an extra premium to have it - this is still some way off though.

Ah see I thought things like this would happen, I was surprised to hear Phil was still allowed.

timwilky
18-03-08, 12:23 PM
Which is a turn around, as they used to make a big thing out of 'ride your mates bike'


They do this by requiring you to put your m ates bike on a multi bike policy. The premium is based on the most risk bike and a sort of admin fee for the lesser bikes.

Lets be fair. You could try to insure your CG125 for a couple of shekels and then ride your mates busa 351 days a year. It would make a mockery of the risk and associated premiums etc. The e-Bike way, ensures you have the same level of cover on your mates bike as you have on your own.

Also check your small print if you do have 3rd party cover to ride other bikes. Do you have to advise your insurer in advance of the bike you intend to ride etc.

Sosha
18-03-08, 12:48 PM
Its not on my policy specifically so I guess no luck :(

Ring and ask, It's not on my policy either - despite the fact it was for the previous - I rang and asked (slightly miffed) and was told I was covered (because I was insured on a bike of over something or other). Then I decided I'd ring and ask again and got the same answer slightly more convincingly.

I'd get it in writing though if it was going to be a regular thing - I haven't because after spending so long on hold I couldn't face going through the whole thing again only more so on their customer service line.

Then I forgot about it.

edit: possibly irrelevant cos that's MCE - been with them a while but it's guaranteed they'll make 2 mistakes on the docs they send out first time around.

edit2: It is third party only cover

Alpinestarhero
18-03-08, 12:51 PM
Bennets probably dont let you breath without insurance.

However, carol nash allow me to ride any machine with third party insurance (as long as the machine is legal...so I cant ride my dads GSXR, unless he kindley restrictes it first)

Matt

Paws
18-03-08, 07:27 PM
same here, i could rode treacles zx10 if i wanted :),you can also add riders to your policy.

neio79
18-03-08, 07:31 PM
same here, i could rode treacles zx10 if i wanted :),you can also add riders to your policy.

But Paws, once you go Kwak you never go back, so you would then have a 675 you no longer wanted to ride ;)

Paws
18-03-08, 08:02 PM
But Paws, once you go Kwak you never go back, so you would then have a 675 you no longer wanted to ride ;)

had kwacks (kdx 125 and a 99 zx9), and il never not wanna ride the 675, it just gets shared between me and treacle :) (joy of having 3 v different bikes between us)