View Full Version : Why are some people so stupid??
Yesterday i saw what to me was one of the most dangerous things i have seen on a bike.
Some complete idiot was riding in the wet and cold with his 5/6 yr old as pillion (nothing wrong in that on its own). But this clown had not given the kid any protective kit other than a helmet and gloves, and to top it all off had a box of something wedged between him and this poor lad,who was leant over this box struggling to hold on to his dad!!! :smt067:smt067
made me so angry that someone would be that complacent with their kids life.
this kid must have been freezing and hanging on for dear life!! It begers belief!
I have no issue with kids as pillion, but for gods sake give them decent protective kit!
the_lone_wolf
23-03-08, 09:04 AM
maybe the kid had fallen out of the protective box and was trying to get his dad's attention?
i completely disagree with taking 5 OR 6 YEAR old as a pillion anyway.
Jesus at that age they are so prone to wanting to look about and will forget all about hanging on.
Somne people are just so god dam thick
phil24_7
23-03-08, 10:17 AM
Perhaps it was a midget and not a 5 year old!
Perhaps it was a midget and not a 5 year old!
take it your an optimist? lol:D
Perhaps it was a midget and not a 5 year old!
OI...............you weren't thinking of anyone in particular I hope!
OI...............you weren't thinking of anyone in particular I hope!
If the XXXS size cap fits, wear it :D
If the XXXS size cap fits, wear it :D
:D:thumleft:
OI...............you weren't thinking of anyone in particular I hope!
Well it wasent you Lissa, this was in Southampton and aon a Fireblade. And i think he was a bit taller than you ;):p
Well it wasent you Lissa, this was in Southampton and aon a Fireblade. And i think he was a bit taller than you ;):p
Ooh.................you're gonna be sorry!:D
Defender
23-03-08, 10:33 AM
i completely disagree with taking 5 OR 6 YEAR old as a pillion anyway.
Jesus at that age they are so prone to wanting to look about and will forget all about hanging on.
Somne people are just so god dam thick
I agree.
Ooh.................you're gonna be sorry!:D
Hey no Ankle biting on NW3 ;) LOL
I agree.
Ok what would be the concensus for a sensable age to let a child go pillion?
My daughter is almost 9 and i migh concider it this summer, obviously she will be kitted out in full leathers, good helmet and back protector.
sv-robo
23-03-08, 11:23 AM
I have no issue with kids as pillion, but for gods sake give them decent protective kit!
Like this?
My eldest son (7)been going on the back of me here&there for around a year or so now,loves it....a great little pillion.:D
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee120/sv-robo/ca86e131.jpg
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee120/sv-robo/b6d1b973.jpg
Yeah like that, fully kited up.
i dont feel its up to anyone what age a parent takes their child pillion. Accidents happen whether they are 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 ...
as long as the parent is happy to take the child and the child is happy to go and behave then its nothing to do with anyone else.
they should wear the proper kit though but then I think everyone should - yet they dont.
the rider with the 5 year old earlier was adhering to the law ie helmet.
maybe the child was older, my son is tiny and is 11.
anyway Ill pass the soap box back.
Speedy Claire
23-03-08, 12:09 PM
One totally irresponsible parent... pity the police didn`t spot him!
i dont feel its up to anyone what age a parent takes their child pillion. Accidents happen whether they are 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 ...
as long as the parent is happy to take the child and the child is happy to go and behave then its nothing to do with anyone else.
they should wear the proper kit though but then I think everyone should - yet they dont.
the rider with the 5 year old earlier was adhering to the law ie helmet.
maybe the child was older, my son is tiny and is 11.
anyway Ill pass the soap box back.
i agree kitkat, its up to the parent and child, as long as they can reach the pillion pegs and grip either the rider or grab rail properly as well. And like you they should be wearing the right kit .
One totally irresponsible parent... pity the police didn`t spot him!
I was hoping he would get pulled and got a telling off, surly it can be legal to ride with unsecured item between you and the pillion??
Wideboy
23-03-08, 12:17 PM
Well it wasent you Lissa, this was in Southampton and aon a Fireblade. And i think he was a bit taller than you ;):p
argg be gone with you!!!, out of towner's
wasn't me :lol:
argg be gone with you!!!, out of towner's
wasn't me :lol:
Visiting Parent in Marchwood mate, the rest of my family are all form So'ton. Millbrook, Lordshill, Totton, Lyndhurst, Romsey, Hedge end.
So not really an out of towner LOL
argg be gone with you!!!, out of towner's
wasn't me :lol:
Visiting Parent in Marchwood mate, the rest of my family are all form So'ton. Millbrook, Lordshill, Totton, Lyndhurst, Romsey, Hedge end.
So not really an out of towner LOL
Wideboy
23-03-08, 12:29 PM
i'll let you off this time then, but the ler will be informed :lol:
sorry de-reail over :)
dizzyblonde
23-03-08, 12:29 PM
I'm glad my six year old doesn't have any interest in getting on any of my bikes. It makes it easier for me, as the answer would be no. My friend regularly travels from Durham to Halifax and back with his 10 year old daughter on the back, and she loves it. So do the lads of my best mate in France. I think 10 years is about right, and have never seen any of the kids mentioned having any difficulty or been silly
yorkie_chris
23-03-08, 12:43 PM
I was on the back of my dad at age 9 or 10 and never did anythign daft, just loved it.
Still think the guy in the OP is a muppet though, using a child instead of bungie cords for a parcel is a tad silly
shifter
23-03-08, 01:03 PM
I was riding pillion with my dad as soon as I could reach the footpegs, and wouldn't change it for the world.
We had a lid to lid intercom and he used to talk me through everything that was going on with riding the bike and with the road. Because of this I probably could have passed the theory test you have to do now by the time I was 9.
You never know, perhaps learning some road sense at such an early age has played its part in the fact that I have never had an accident or a conviction, and I drive all day for work!
Its not the rider your pillion with i don't trust. Its all the other road users that dont pay attention to anything but the end of their noses.!
If anything were to happen on the road with your child on the back, and it WAS NOT your fault but someone else's, would peeps ever forgive themselves?
Its not the rider your pillion with i don't trust. Its all the other road users that dont pay attention to anything but the end of their noses.!
If anything were to happen on the road with your child on the back, and it WAS NOT your fault but someone else's, would peeps ever forgive themselves?
and if you were involved in a car crash that was not your fault and your child was injured would you forgive yourself (I think eventually yes)
you let your child walk to school and get hit by a car - again not your fault.
you cannot protect your kids for ever. get them the proper kit. talk to them about how to sit on bike and what to do when going round corners etc and get out there and have some fun. life is too short to think - what if!
sorry to rant but this talk of parents being irresponsible for taking their kids pillion really annoys me.
and if you were involved in a car crash that was not your fault and your child was injured would you forgive yourself (I think eventually yes)
you let your child walk to school and get hit by a car - again not your fault.
you cannot protect your kids for ever. get them the proper kit. talk to them about how to sit on bike and what to do when going round corners etc and get out there and have some fun. life is too short to think - what if!
sorry to rant but this talk of parents being irresponsible for taking their kids pillion really annoys me.
No kitkat you cant protect your kids forever.
BUt like yourself mate, I do have an opinion as well. And threads like these air different opinions.
People agree to disagree. So u think its ok and i dont! Theres no need to get annoyed in subjects. Just honor your view and i will mine.
The guy was just sharing a view with us all about how he saw something dangerous. We comment. There are no rights or wrongs just views.
OK
sv-robo
23-03-08, 02:36 PM
People agree to disagree. There are no rights or wrongs just views.
OK
+1
So lets not be falling out then.:)
(Get's coat and runs for cover)
phil24_7
23-03-08, 02:56 PM
OI...............you weren't thinking of anyone in particular I hope!
Your not short, your still growing!!!
If the XXXS size cap fits, wear it :D
I think you fell short on a few X's!
Your not short, your still growing!!!
I think you fell short on a few X's!
Just because I probably won't see you until AR08, don't think you'll be safe by then. I won't have forgotten!:D
phil24_7
23-03-08, 03:15 PM
There's a saying about something not forgetting but I shall refrain!!! :-D
There's a saying about something not forgetting but I shall refrain!!! :-D
See, you blokes just can't make your minds up.................I'm either a midget or an elephant..............I can't be both:p
See, you blokes just can't make your minds up.................I'm either a midget or an elephant..............I can't be both:p
a baby elephant?? :rolleyes:
a baby elephant?? :rolleyes:
You'd better bring shin pads and ankle protectors to NW3:smt077
phil24_7
23-03-08, 03:21 PM
Neio, that's a little close to the line.
Damn funny though!!!
Gene genie
23-03-08, 03:24 PM
i saw a young chap on the pillion of a gsxr on my way out of belle vue speedway on good friday (in which we won for once). the rider was colour co-ordinated in alpinestars kit, the youngen had an evel kneivel lid on made in 1973 and stuffed to fit with yesterdays newspaper. why are some people so ignorant to others i will never know.
arenalife
23-03-08, 07:30 PM
Hein Gericke are doing a pet carrier for bikes now, maybe he could have put the kid in there?
No.
Children should always be carried in a suitably sized top box. It makes as much sense as not putting them in the boot of a car or on a roof rack.
and if you were involved in a car crash that was not your fault and your child was injured would you forgive yourself (I think eventually yes)
you let your child walk to school and get hit by a car - again not your fault.
you cannot protect your kids for ever. get them the proper kit. talk to them about how to sit on bike and what to do when going round corners etc and get out there and have some fun. life is too short to think - what if!
sorry to rant but this talk of parents being irresponsible for taking their kids pillion really annoys me.
No kitkat you cant protect your kids forever.
BUt like yourself mate, I do have an opinion as well. And threads like these air different opinions.
People agree to disagree. So u think its ok and i dont! Theres no need to get annoyed in subjects. Just honor your view and i will mine.
The guy was just sharing a view with us all about how he saw something dangerous. We comment. There are no rights or wrongs just views.
OK
I can understand people who dont like bikes having this view but bikers having this view surprises me. If a child is injured on the back of a bike or in a car or crossing the road it makes no difference. I just dont think guilt should be loaded onto the parent for being irresponsible.
Neios original post was about kid having inappropriate clothing and having a box stuck in front of him, not once did he say taking the kid on the bike was a bad idea yet some others jumped onto that bandwagon.
anyway im mellow again, :flower:
I can understand people who dont like bikes having this view but bikers having this view surprises me. If a child is injured on the back of a bike or in a car or crossing the road it makes no difference. I just dont think guilt should be loaded onto the parent for being irresponsible.
Neios original post was about kid having inappropriate clothing and having a box stuck in front of him, not once did he say taking the kid on the bike was a bad idea yet some others jumped onto that bandwagon.
anyway im mellow again, :flower:
just intrigued why? There must be some things u view out there as dangerous you undertake and others may have the same opinion.
So as per neios post... the [parent who is also a biker is just so irresponsible.. Obviously has no regard for the child's safety. Leading to all the other posts.
And breathhhhhh:smt080
just intrigued why? There must be some things u view out there as dangerous you undertake and others may have the same opinion.
So as per neios post... the [parent who is also a biker is just so irresponsible.. Obviously has no regard for the child's safety. Leading to all the other posts.
And breathhhhhh:smt080
i dont know really - probably why im surprised. I dont undertake anything remotely interesting far less dangerous - boring boring boring :(
:D
Wayluya
24-03-08, 11:30 AM
It's all relative........
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/newsletter/images/2002-11-01_Maron-Thailand.jpg
You will note that "Mum" is taking the photo - she'll hop on after.........with the shopping :p
where did they say the biggest death rate for bikers was again?
the picture clearly shows y!!!!!!!
plowsie
25-03-08, 09:33 AM
The law is, as long as they cant have their feet on the pegs its illegal. Is very irresponsible that the guy has thrown his kid on the back without any kit, fair enough if he gets on without correct kit on (who am i to slag someone off for wearing incorrect kit) but throwin his kid on without kit on is irresposible (I would never put anyone on back who didnt really know the risks of being on the back of the motorbike...)
21QUEST
25-03-08, 11:38 AM
It's all relative........
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/newsletter/images/2002-11-01_Maron-Thailand.jpg
You will note that "Mum" is taking the photo - she'll hop on after.........with the shopping :p
One of the best posts(if not the best)..........;)
Ben
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