whats ur biggest gripe about the uk?

[kwak zzr]

i heard this on the radio today so whats yours? i'll start with a favorite-

PETROL PRICES!

[Shellywoozle]

Weather !

[DoubleD]

I'm with Shelly... THE WEATHER

[tigersaw]

Weather and Tax

[Lozzo]

Chavs

[ThEGr33k]

TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sv-robo]

Don't get me started!!!!:)

[Balky001]

weather and cost of living.

[shifter]

Mine would have to be the weather, taxes, speed cameras, ott health and safety, the fact we are massively over crowded, benefit cheats, sick note mentality, the fact immigrants needs seem to be much more important than tax paying patriots needs, criminals are given all sorts of benefits that honest people aren't, you can get an asbo for a noisy zorst when 200 hundred strangers have told you it sound wicked and nobody has complained!
Then there's the fact that when my band plays in a pub we might have 100 people loving it, but if 1 person complains we have to stop. Oh and the fact the governments answer to every problem is to introduce some form of tax!
Other tahn that I really like it:-)

[mister c]

Don't get me started!!!!:)
+1

[Messie]

People who constantly moan about the UK :cool:

It's not perfect but it's pretty good really. I love it and wouldn't live anywhere else

[neio79]

Our bend over backwards for anyone minotiry or not native attitude, whilr we f**k over the decent law obiding tax paying majority!!! and our ever increasing PC pink and fluffy outlook on life!

[rick0361]

Tax, fuel prices and the corrupt politicians who have it all saying that we've never been better off. Don't make me laugh

[Rich]

My biggest gripe is the weeks wages that get taken from me each month. A weeks hard earned wages going to sick note Britain. I see first hand the people my money goes to, and it sickens me to know my wages are helping families of so called poverty pay for Sky TV and Laptops, broadband, nice cars and massive plasma screen TV's.

I think the benefit system needs a big shake up, it seems they are handed out willy nilly. It's partly the governments faulti know but there are jobs for these people and perhaps if they got off they're @rses the polish wouldn't get all these jobs that supposibly we don't want. I like how they have a choice to take these jobs, benefits or work. emmm benefits it is then.

[DanAbnormal]

Tax.

[Jester666]

Don't get me started!!!!:)

+2

Tax.

Especially the so called "stealth" ones!

[Dicky Ticker]

P.C.Prats-immigration-health and saftey when it suites-tax-low pensions and a government so far up its own "R"s-being taken for a sucker by the rest of Europe

-BEING TO OLD TO EMIGRATE-

[WestleyTDPR]

People who are happy to spend their lives whinging but won't actually make a complaint

[Dicky Ticker]

WHO LISTENS---where is the EEC referendum---land of broken promises that wastes billions of public money

[kitkat]

Lack of discipline in schools. Thugs ruling the streets and nothing we can do about it. Benefit cheats.

[dizzyblonde]

Kids that need a jolly good slap, because they're parents aren't allowed to discipline them properly...you know the sort that when they get to teens scream....we've nothing to do, lets binge drink and be a bunch of w44nkers.

Tax

Too many folk coming in and all the English leaving( me being one of them in a couple of years...i hope)

Tax
And funnily enough, ignorant English gits, because compared to other countries i've been in or heard about, we compare abismally, we are collectivly awful. There are nice folk among us, the people we associate with, and friends, but those in faceless streets, close doors in your face, wlak in front of you, rush, rush ,rush in their car, run you over blame you...sit on their backsides all day, don't work, pretend they can't
.you know the sort


ooooo I could go on all day, but for now........

[tigersaw]

Too many folk coming in and all the English leaving( me being one of them in a couple of years...i hope)

...

Where to? Europe or further? I've looked at OZ, NZ and Canada so far and none have inspired me sufficiently, (nor would thay have me without a struggle)

[dizzyblonde]

whereever a design engineer will be needed i think. Im Indoors finshes uni this year, already has a lot of experience in the work aspect but needs some more for a couple of years wthin his field.( hes a mature student) He wants Oz or NZ, and as I've got some friends that have just moved over there i can get hold of some first hand thoughts and advice for future reference......................me I'd prefer to live in my best mates garden in the depths of very rural mid france, but theres not much work there am afraid!

[MR UKI (1)]

People who find it all too easy to get benefits and the fact they make it almost impossible for those who do need them to get them. Oh and the weather, snowing again today :mad:

[Razor]

Love it or leave it, but you'll be back!

[Rhiwbina_Squirrel]

Our lovely fluffy PC world that's being rammed down our throats, the way police are more likely to act if you're an ethnic minority or have a particular sexual orientation, busy bodies, the OTT human rights campaigners who think illegal imigrants who murder should stay in Britain because they're own country is too dangerous but force innocent people, who are on their death beds, out. I'll not bore you anymore :)

[Moffatt666]

Nanny state!!!!

[tigersaw]

Love it or leave it, but you'll be back!

Most people do come back - they miss their family and the colour green. Myself, i'm not fussed about either

[John 675]

i dont blame the polish that apparently take all the jobs.. the reason they get these jobs is because the Majority work all the hours they can, they work hard and deserve better from some employers, because they know if they work their Ar$es of for 5 years and go back home they will live extremely well... IMO they dont take all of the jobs they just work the jobs that benefit/sick note scoudrals cant be ar$ed to do.. i know if i had a company i would treat them fairly and employ alot of them.. ever wondered who packs your pre packed sandwhiches? or puts your luggage on to a plane? or makes sure your FEDEX/DHL/UPS stuff is delivered on time.. its usually the hard working polish...

[scooby]

This dammmm weather. Went out in lovley sun on dry roads 40 miles from home sleet n snow n wax cotton over mitts leaving a deposite of wax all over the visor. made for a rough ride home. Washed the bike to get the salt off now its drying outside in the sun Oooooh. And the cost of living

[melody]

Being blamed for just about everything that is wrong with the UK because I'm an immigrant.

The weather.

[John 675]

no only the daily star reading simple people actually blame the indevidual.. anyone that understands blames the government for not having correct equal policys

besides.. everyone is an imigrant at some point in time im 1/4 irish 1/4 scotch 1/2 english...

say no more

[shifter]

no only the daily star reading simple people actually blame the indevidual.. anyone that understands blames the government for not having correct equal policys

besides.. everyone is an imigrant at some point in time im 1/4 irish 1/4 scotch 1/2 english...

say no more

+1

[Gordon B]

While I agree that there are far worse places to live two things get my goat.

1. Our lack of winning attitude. We always seem to cheer the underdog and celebrate people who don't win as national heroes. We'll never have a winning sports team as long as this attitude continues. And none competitive sports days......:confused:

2. The fact that we are ashamed to be English. I am personally proud of my heritage and history and will tell anyone who cares to listen how great it is to be from this country, even if our football/cricket teams suck. (See point 1). We produce possibly the best music in the world presently, the Premier League is the most watched league in the world with all the cream of the worlds footballers falling over themselves to come here, James Bond would kick Indiana Jones ass any day of the week. Alot of the best video games are made in this country. Cup of tea anyone....I could go on.....

[northwind]

People who moan on and on about the nanny state :D

[hovis]

Our bend over backwards for anyone minotiry or not native attitude, whilr we f**k over the decent law obiding tax paying majority!!!

+1

[kwak zzr]

mmmm looks like TAX is a biggy, i wonder how much of you hard earnt cash is used up on paying tax? income tax should be enuf but NO everything else u buy has tax on too? i know i speak the obvious but i bet 50% net pay is tax.

[Ed]

The problem is that after many years of successive Tory governments successfully dismantling government, we have had 11 years of this shower making government grow faster than anything else. This is why tax is so high - it's needed to pay for it all. What makes it worse is that we are so used to all the lies that have been peddled to hide it that we don't listen any more.

It's actually my biggest gripe too. Overbearing and mendacious government.

[Alpinestarhero]

Petrol prices are one thing, but I wont complain until it costs me more than £15 to fill my bike up from when the light comes on.

I dont like the feeling of speed camera's everywhere, I dont trust their calibration.

ANd I HATE THE STATE OF THE ROADS!!!!! most are falling apart

[plowsie]

Tax

[Welsh_Wizard]

I hate the lack of respect younger generations have these days. Not all, just some.. Makes for worrying times future-wise.

[DanDare]

Wales! :-dd8-[




* Runs for cover *

[G]

Mine is the goverment/tax/running of the country.

I'm in no doubt thats its a hard job to do, but the current goverment has gone massively in the wrong direction.

Why should I loose so much of my income on income tax, and why should i then loose 17.5% on nearlly everything else that i do, and then theres all the local authority taxes....the list of taxes goes on and on Its scary when you think about it.

I would love to ask for an itemised bill of where it all goes, as I'm pretty damn sure I dont get ANY benefit from my wages dissapearing. You see it all when you walk onto a council estate and they have better cars than you, better 50" TV's than you and apparently money to burn, yet they dont work but have 4 kids...........when I probably couldnt even afford to look after 1 kid to a decent standard.


Below is an entertaining read into migration......although I would quite like to migrate

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article2326687.ece

[Welsh_Wizard]

Mine is the goverment/tax/running of the country.

I'm in no doubt thats its a hard job to do, but the current goverment has gone massively in the wrong direction.

Why should I loose so much of my income on income tax, and why should i then loose 17.5% on nearlly everything else that i do, and then theres all the local authority taxes....the list of taxes goes on and on Its scary when you think about it.

I would love to ask for an itemised bill of where it all goes, as I'm pretty damn sure I dont get ANY benefit from my wages dissapearing. You see it all when you walk onto a council estate and they have better cars than you, better 50" TV's than you and apparently money to burn, yet they dont work but have 4 kids...........when I probably couldnt even afford to look after 1 kid to a decent standard.


Below is an entertaining read into migration......although I would quite like to migrate

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article2326687.ece

Can't stand reading Clarkson - he waffles almost to the point of complete make believe.

This sentence :
And then came the latest migration figures, which showed that while Britain received 5.4 billion west African pickpockets last year, we lost what the Daily Mail calls 196,000 British citizens.

5.4 billion migrants in a single year ?? That's complete and utter tosh. If he had put the true figure against the ex-pat one, it would still make the same impact as people would be able to see it for what it's really worth..I know its tongue in cheek sometimes but he goes so far left and right it's like reading a kids diary.

[G]

Its called humor, you either find the style amusing or you dont unfortunately. It gets a point across which is the overall goal.

[Alpinestarhero]

Why should I loose so much of my income on income tax, and why should i then loose 17.5% on nearlly everything else that i do, and then theres all the local authority taxes....the list of taxes goes on and on Its scary when you think about it.



I wonder what the goverment does with my road tax that I pay.

There's so many potholes and poorly surfaced roads, and also patchy roads where repairs have been attempted, that I can only speculate that my road tax, and most peoples road tax, is spent on other stuff...like war

[Pedrosa]

I love the UK!

[2mths]

Our bend over backwards for anyone minotiry or not native attitude, whilr we f**k over the decent law obiding tax paying majority!!! and our ever increasing PC pink and fluffy outlook on life!

Pretty much +1

[cuz]

today's weather it's to cold kwak

[2mths]

I wonder what the goverment does with my road tax that I pay.

There's so many potholes and poorly surfaced roads, and also patchy roads where repairs have been attempted, that I can only speculate that my road tax, and most peoples road tax, is spent on other stuff...like war

Road tax never was and never will be about the roads. The government doesn't spend fuel duty on fuel, or income tax on income. The name is about what is being taxed, not about where the money raised is spent.

I've no problem with people complaining about the quality of roads - that's their right. But the reality is that most roads are funded by local government not central and in the grand scheme of things the quality of road surfaces is very low down on the agenda.

Personally I hate seeing dangerous road surfaces (potholes, worn out white lines, bad or missing signs, loose surfaces etc) and I think these should be seen as a priority (and if reported they mostly are).

Fair taxation is a difficult thing to achieve. It would also not be effective. I belive approximately a 1/3rd of govermment spending goes on the NHS - there's no way I've had a 1/3rd of my life time taxation spent on my healthcare. But beyond wishing to see the NHS made more effecient and less burocratic (sp?) I don't have a problem with this situation.

Hmm - that was probably a rant - it wasn't meant to be though.

[blueto]

my gripe about the UK is the amount of illegal immigrants.

They come to the uk, get a house, loads of dosh, never work and then feel hard done by!

WTF is that all about

[glsuk1970]

I love the UK!
:---)




;)

[plowsie]

I love the UK!
You bloody would :smt044

[Welsh_Wizard]

Its called humor, you either find the style amusing or you dont unfortunately. It gets a point across which is the overall goal.

Thanks for the heads up...

[krhall]

it is the fact that the people who try to help themselves and be less of a burden on society, by having their own house, jobs etc. are penalised for it and get no tax breaks or benefits. Despite the fact that their living costs far exceed anyone who has a council house.

Then when they get a second job to try and help themselves further, they pay a basic rate tax and more national insurance which means that they have to work even more hours to try and make ends meet.

The country is stacked against law-abiding hard-working individuals! That is simply not fair..........

[Ed]

I love the UK!

Only cos you're not here:cool:

###

Few comments above on council tax. Yes I live in a nice house but it's no mansion. £2,060.83 this year, it has more than doubled under the thieves we call a government. TWO BLOODY GRAND.

[kwak zzr]

the thieves we call a government.

i totally agree Ed :smt076

[-Ralph-]

Crap education, crap healthcare, rip off taxes, weather, a society that no longer knows how to discipline it's kids, governments that do wtf they want regardless of how the public they are supposed to be serving feel about it, and governments departments that haemorrage money on unneccessary "consultants and project managers" that achieve nothing more than arguing and inventing red tape, and making government contractors very rich. (how come it costs us ten times more to build a mile of motorway or build a hospital than our Europeaan neighbours?)

Please don't tell me to vote for somebody else 'cos if the opposition gets into power they will do wtf they want too! It's the political landscape we live in.

[Razor]

Have I mentioned I love it here and wouldn't have them change a thing?

[metalmonkey]

it is the fact that the people who try to help themselves and be less of a burden on society, by having their own house, jobs etc. are penalised for it and get no tax breaks or benefits. Despite the fact that their living costs far exceed anyone who has a council house.

Then when they get a second job to try and help themselves further, they pay a basic rate tax and more national insurance which means that they have to work even more hours to try and make ends meet.

The country is stacked against law-abiding hard-working individuals! That is simply not fair..........

yup agree, I can't get by without overtime I try to get as, much as I can or to the point where I can't take working anymore, which I have reached I'm about to have some time off, thank god.

It used to what i earnt was a good amount of pay, but now I have no hope of buying somewhere or it does feel like that, I have live reasonably close to where I work casue of what I do.

What really ****es me off, is the people that do nothing that get a house THAT WE PAY FOR!! AlSO people coming coming into our country and get given a house, then some of them go against the very state that suppourts them.

It really winds me going out there dealing with people about moaning how they haven't got there benfits, or walking in someone house that is paid for them out right, and don't work. The fact I will never see 1/3 of what I earn at least!

While you have the rest of us doing 40+ hours a week just to get by, how is this right?

[tigersaw]

Tax and weather I mentioned.

I want to add Pikies.

[chakraist]

i dont blame the polish that apparently take all the jobs.. the reason they get these jobs is because the Majority work all the hours they can, they work hard and deserve better from some employers, because they know if they work their Ar$es of for 5 years and go back home they will live extremely well... IMO they dont take all of the jobs they just work the jobs that benefit/sick note scoudrals cant be ar$ed to do.. i know if i had a company i would treat them fairly and employ alot of them.. ever wondered who packs your pre packed sandwhiches? or puts your luggage on to a plane? or makes sure your FEDEX/DHL/UPS stuff is delivered on time.. its usually the hard working polish...

Damned straight. Couldn't agree more. There are some people who come here, work their arses off and are some of the nicest people you could meet.

It's the companies that employ illegal immigrants faults, as if they paid the same amount for everyone there would be no need for the poles to 'steal our jobs'. Give the illegal immigrants a LEGAL minimum wage and you eliminate this problem overnight, and rat out some rotten companies in the process.

[Davi1033]

I find this thread very interesting. I'm an outsider for this group...I'm in the US. Your complaints are the same that we have here. Taxes are too high, with honest, law abiding people never getting anything in return. Its only lazy types and immigrants from Mexico that get to live off the governmental (.)(.)
Im in northern US, Michigan, and my weather is about the same as the UK. We still have snow today.
My only other gripe is.....the whole world thinks everyone in the US is a conceded jerkoff. That's not true, but our government likes to push its weight around the world, giving the impression that all of its citizens want them to do it. Most of us just want to play nice with the rest of the world.
Ok...im off my soapbox now. If any of you get a chance to come to the US, bring your bikes and go to Michigan in summer time. Its some great riding with very few law enforcement officers with radar guns.

[gettin2dizzy]

The give / take social divide

The endless montioring / banning

The open dishonesty of the Government in addition to their 'blameless' actions

Freedom of religion but not freedom FROM religion

The complete disregard; and resulting suicide of the UK's economy

'Holier than thou' media-created British attitude

Poorly educated majority

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Please don't tell me to vote for somebody else 'cos if the opposition gets into power they will do wtf they want too! It's the political landscape we live in.

Not so. Governments get increasingly tyrannical every subsequent term they win.

Fact of the matter is, despite the gigantic cataloges of government cockups, lying, and generally ignoring the electorate on matters such as ID cards and Europe, we keep voting them in. We only have our selves to blame.

[tigersaw]

Give the illegal immigrants a LEGAL minimum wage and you eliminate this problem overnight, and rat out some rotten companies in the process.

A lot of them do, but still can't attract british workers. Harvest picking anyone? Over ?7 hour but no british takers - offered the opportunity on TV they just sneered and opened another tinny.

[Ed]

A lot of them do, but still can't attract british workers. Harvest picking anyone? Over ?7 hour but no british takers - offered the opportunity on TV they just sneered and opened another tinny.

I once had a job picking strawberries. I didn't last very long. It is such hard work - for a pittance. And I never wanted to see another strawberry again.

[Skip]

A lot of them do, but still can't attract british workers. Harvest picking anyone? Over ?7 hour but no british takers - offered the opportunity on TV they just sneered and opened another tinny.
I saw that - he needed shooting on the spot!

All they were after were well paid driving jobs so they can sit on their asses all day! :evil:

[Demonz]

The weather. If it was better people would be happy. Maybe this would solve all the other problems too.

[sinbad]

That we're a nation of complainers.

(How ironic)

[Needsy]

It's not so bad, not when compared to a lot of other places in the world.

Sure we've got chavs, workshy benefits parasites and crappy weather, but I'd rather live here than some war torn hellhole.

No wait... I live in Slough....:smt100

[nutty]

well, since i now live in washington, d.c. to the ranter who complained about immigrants, tax and the health service, just try living in the united states, mate...the weather in d.c is a lot better (except august when it's a sauna) but as for going to a doctor or a hospital, i promise you, the UK is a thousand times better.

but there are some great roads out here if you can avoid the idiot drivers and their huge SUV's and pick-up trucks.

[Sosha]

The lack of any sense of personal responsibility.

When was the last time you saw a politician hold their hands up and say "Mea culpa, I made a mistake"?

oh... and the London Assembly/mayor whatever - how much does that all cost?....

What is it about politicians - give them a bit power and they all seem to develop God complexes.

Sounds like I'm bashing Politicians but it's just the whole "It's not my fault" thing.

Grrrr.

[tigersaw]

but as for going to a doctor or a hospital, i promise you, the UK is a thousand times better.


So its not like House MD then?

[Rog]

I am amazed at the amount of reteric in the thread which appears to be a direct repeat of many a red top. If you actually dig deep into the figures of monies spent in this country, the figures spent on immagration and dealing with the same are really miniscule. What do we think that the government do with the tax? With any large organisation there will always be wastage and **** ups and apparent money pits, but every country in the world struggles with this conumdrum.

We have a basic choice in the this country; Tories equals less tax but slowly reduced service higher rates of privatisation but less bureaucracy. Labour equals more tax increased service but increased bureaucracy. To much of either of these models will hurt us in the end.

Our actually tax burden, is comparable with many modern western countries if you dig deep enough.

I love the UK and it deeply saddens me to see the red top reteric being regurgitated in this way trying to blame all of the countries' apparent ills on one section of society. All societies have there layabouts and scumbags, but they are across all sections of soceity and do not rest all in one place. Is'nt the ?100,000 a year worker dodging taxes through loopholes and a good accountant, just as bad as the chav who trys it on with the benefit system? they are both effectively stealing off the majority, but hey, thats human beings for you.


By the way I have recently moved to a small bunker on Mars. :) (for tax reasons obviously)

[Flamin_Squirrel]

What is it about politicians - give them a bit power and they all seem to develop God complexes.

Sounds like I'm bashing Politicians but it's just the whole "It's not my fault" thing.

Grrrr.

Anyone who wants to be a politician already has a God complex ;)

Our actually tax burden, is comparable with many modern western countries if you dig deep enough.

I'm pretty sure that's not the case anymore. I believe we're now into the relms of officially having a high tax economy.

Is'nt the ?100,000 a year worker dodging taxes through loopholes and a good accountant, just as bad as the chav who trys it on with the benefit system? they are both effectively stealing off the majority, but hey, thats human beings for you.

Absolutely not. Someone who earns a lot of money is obviously economically produtive - they generate wealth through the company they work for which in turn pays taxes. They will pay tax in their income even if at a reduced rate through dodges, and will be taxed again when they spend it. I can't remember the figure but I believe the top 20% of earners make up 80% of income tax. Something like that anyway. For working the hardest they're penalised the most, so trying to minimise how much the tax man robs them is perfectly understandable.

The chav on benefits contributes nothing. They're economic parasites, and the only people who benefit from them are those who work for the gigantic beaurocrasy required to look after them, who are scarcely any better than the chavs themselves.

[Caddy2000]

People who constantly moan about the UK :cool:

It's not perfect but it's pretty good really. I love it and wouldn't live anywhere else

People who are happy to spend their lives whinging but won't actually make a complaint

^^^^^^^

Damn right!

[-Ralph-]

I find this thread very interesting. I'm an outsider for this group...I'm in the US. Your complaints are the same that we have here.

My French relatives say the same, but it's all about perspective. They don't have the social issues we have with youngsters, but they think they have, they just have it on a much smaller scale and only really in deprived areas.

As for economics, fuel as a particularly sore point here and so easy to quote as an example, but the principal remains valid with other things such as alcohol and cigarettes, if not to the same extent. Diesel is about 112 pence per litre = 509 pence per gallon = 10.18 USD per Gallon. Petrol is 9.46 USD/Gal 2/3 of that is Tax.

Tell that to folk in the US who are shocked that it has just hit 3.26 and 4.06 USD/Gal respectively.

In the UK you can't directly compare visible taxes such as income tax or VAT, we have so many other so called "stealth" taxes that actually double our tax bills. Perhaps you guys do in the US as well, but you pay nothing like what we pay for major purchases such as houses, cars, etc.

I sat down with my father-in-law one afternoon and did the maths, he was shocked and soon conceeded that the UK was much more expensive than France.

[-Ralph-]

Not so. Governments get increasingly tyrannical every subsequent term they win.

Fact of the matter is, despite the gigantic cataloges of government cockups, lying, and generally ignoring the electorate on matters such as ID cards and Europe, we keep voting them in. We only have our selves to blame.

So lets just completely destablise the country by changing the government every 4 years for some other bunch of tyrannical dishonest incompetents who don't have a realistic agenda, nor any idea of how they will pay for what they promise, nor politicians with any practical experience of running a country. All this just so we never have to put up with any more than 4 years of tyrannical ego development?

Voting for me is always a case of choosing the lesser of the available evils.

[tigersaw]

Tell that to folk in the US who are shocked that it has just hit 3.26 and 4.06 USD/Gal respectively.



Although, relatively, their prices have risen staggeringly compared to ours. It still may seem laughably cheap to us, but it has doubled in price over there in just a few years

[gettin2dizzy]

Voting for me is always a case of choosing the lesser available elvis.
:confused:

[Ablazze]

People who toss themselves off of road bridges, im glad there out of the gene pool, but dont they realise there probly going to put up a speed camera where they fall.


Jas...

[sv-robo]

People who toss themselves off on road bridges,

..
oo-er,sticky windsceen:)

[Flamin_Squirrel]

So lets just completely destablise the country by changing the government every 4 years for some other bunch of tyrannical dishonest incompetents who don't have a realistic agenda, nor any idea of how they will pay for what they promise, nor politicians with any practical experience of running a country. All this just so we never have to put up with any more than 4 years of tyrannical ego development?

You obviously have a fundamental misunderstanding of how government works, and I'm too lazy to explain.

[northwind]

I'm too lazy to explain.

Lazy people are my second biggest gripe now, after griping people :D

[-Ralph-]

You obviously have a fundamental misunderstanding of how government works, and I'm too lazy to explain.

I'll just ignore that insult. I'm too lazy to bother arguing with the likes of you.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

I'll just ignore that insult. I'm too lazy to bother arguing with the likes of you.

It wasn't an insult. Simply put, there's much more to government than the ministers, which is why it's wrong to assume that changing them will have a destablising effect.

[Blapper]

What @shifter said, plus poxy road surfaces!

[Swin]

Necro...

[andrewsmith]

Zombie apocalypse resurrection

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[Red ones]

People who toss themselves off of road bridges, im glad there out of the gene pool, but dont they realise there probly going to put up a speed camera where they fall.


Jas...



People who have no sympathy for others with mental health issues.


And more seriously... People who think it's worth getting upset and ranting about Chris Evans, or even giving a toss about a TV show past its sell by but dismiss Brexit because they can't be bothered to care.

People who dismiss politicians out of hand. If the job was straightforward then civil servants would be doing it. Politicians exist because of tricky problems. There not all Johnson or Gove. Think of Tony Benn, Franl Field or Dennis Skinner and dare I even say John Major?

And threads with very long posts.

[Bibio]

junkie scum and louts. you cant walk anywhere these days without seeing the zombies and then at night the pub louts come out and spoil a good night out.

[dizzyblonde]

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

[carelesschucca]

People still actually read The Sun, and seem to believe the constant lies...

[Sir Trev]

People still actually read The Sun, and seem to believe the constant lies...

I'm not a footie fan in any way shape or form but after a Scouse lass on my course at Uni explained what The Sun did with the Hillsborough coverage I never bought it again.

I also hate pompous and self important a-holes in cages who don't think they have to queue on the roads like the rest of us.

[Messie]

Wot Dizzy said up there!

Some names from the dark ages....

[Mrs DJ Fridge]

The kids at work who are "sick" every Monday because they have been cage fighting over the weekend, surely they have better options than getting into a cage and beating each other to a pulp.

[BanannaMan]

I am not living there. :(

It could be worse, you lot could be living in the US!

[SV650rules]

I don't like the fact that the white working class taxpaying male (and to a lesser extent female) is now an endangered species and the bleeding heart do-gooders are leaning over backwards to suck up to minorities and economic migrants - that's not how this country should work, whatever happened to 'the one who pays the piper calls the tune'.

[Red ones]

I thought the piper was calling the tune. Isn't that why we all grumble about city bankers?


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