the cold

[kwak zzr]

went out today and did 30ish miles but when i got back i was soooo cold it hurt:( any tips for keeping hands warm? i got alpinestars gp pro gloves. i need to sort something out before nw3, if 30 miles hurt whats 300 gonna feel like?

[flymo]

thicker thinsulate gloves may be the answer

[kwak zzr]

i try'd some of those a few years ago but i still got froze up quick? i've even try'd latex gloves under my alpinestars? roll on global warming!

[jumjum_0214]

Heated grips?? Or a cheaper quicker alternative Hein Gericke do those waterproof over glove jobbies for about £20.... might help keep the wind out?

[kwak zzr]

its me i'm just a girl (sorry girls :) ) dont like the cold :(

[jambo]

Warm body helps keep warm hands, did 150 miles over the weekend in rather chilly conditions. I believe I was wearing:

T-shirt, EDZ base layer top & bottom, thin jumper, 2 piece leathers, Bulson winter boots, cheap waterproof trousers, Old winter bike jacket with thermal lining in. Neck tube, Lid & HG Master IV winter goretex gloves.

The above keeps me happy down to about 3 degrees or so, much below that heated kit is king. I don't currently have any though :D

Jambo

[jambo]

Hold up, Alpinestar GP Pro, as in:

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Alpinestars_GP_Pro_Racing_Gloves--622557.html
"Perforated leather panels for added ventilation. "



You daft begger, get yourself some winter gloves if you're going to ride in winter!:smt044

[Luckypants]

Good Thermals next to the skin work a treat. Then make sure your neck and wrists stay warm, as blood vessels are close to the skin there. If cold hands are your thing, then keep wrists warm is a must as are something like Thinsulate gloves. My gloves are £30 HG jobbies and worked fine to about -3 C.

[kwak zzr]

Hold up, Alpinestar GP Pro, as in:

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Alpinestars_GP_Pro_Racing_Gloves--622557.html
"Perforated leather panels for added ventilation. "



You daft begger, get yourself some winter gloves if you're going to ride in winter!:smt044

yep thems the ones but the old model of em :smt087

[fizzwheel]

30 miles in Vented Summer Gloves, no wander your hands were cold. I'd never go out in the winter in mine, I get cold hands on summer evenings sometimes let alone the sodding winter !!!

Go and buy some winter gloves man !!!

Dammit - beaten to it by Jambo

[Luckypants]

yep thems the ones but the old model of em :smt087

That's quite silly Kwack old man. Get some thermals and proper gloves old fruit!

[kwak zzr]

:( gotta get sum :( all the rest of me was toasty and warm :)

[kwak zzr]

That's quite silly Kwack old man. Get some thermals and proper gloves old fruit!


did'nt think it would be that cold:( see i'm not used to riding in sleet :p

[plowsie]

I ride around in GP pros kwak :D Me and you is ard! Admittedly I went out with Sean C, did around 60-70 miles and my hands were freezing by halfway, we stopped had a coffee, he went on his way, I hooned it as quick as I could back and I was warm again :D All this in a Jacket with removable lining removed, scarf, jeans and trainers.

If it is a tad cold I use these (http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/6_145/products_id/3780) and if it is raining or snowing or absolutely stupid cold I use these (http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/6_144/products_id/3688).

[kwak zzr]

u is ard mate! i is a girl :)

[mister c]

Check out the Winter gloves at Aldi Kwak. I bought some yesterday, I think that they will keep your numbers warmish.

Years ago I bought heated grips & Handlebar Muffs, they might look a bit Courierish, but they definately work, you wont have cold hands again :)

[plowsie]

u is ard mate! i is a girl :)
I recomend the latter of my post for you then mate :)

[kwak zzr]

I recomend the latter of my post for you then mate :)

fankoooo matey! i need to go shopping :)

[plowsie]

fankoooo matey! i need to go shopping :)
Lol good idea, those ones are about £40 on the site, I think other places do them for cheaper, but maybe in the shop they will be cheaper too. Your nearest HG isn't the one in brum is it?

[kwak zzr]

Lol good idea, those ones are about £40 on the site, I think other places do them for cheaper, but maybe in the shop they will be cheaper too. Your nearest HG isn't the one in brum is it?

our nearest is dudley mate.

[plowsie]

our nearest is dudley mate.
Argh crikeeeeyy, nearest is Dudleyyyyy (crappy b'ham accent), theres the one down near the city centre now, near my nannys :D I love it, can ride down there with gramps in 5 mins and we go on a spree :)

[Mark_h]

A nice pair of DL650 handguards. Look slightly 'orrible but work a treat. I use those and manage to ride in summer gloves all year round. However I took them off at the weekend thinking spring was on the way and it has not stopped snowing since.

They fit perfectly on a 650 but the clutch bolt is too fat for the hydrolic clutch lever on the thou. I just fitted it with the bar end clams adapter thing it comes with and wedged it over teh clutch pivot mounting bolt on the underside and it stayed put for about 1,500 miles over the winter until I took them off last weekend.

Make sure you iorder the set for the DL650, not the DL1000 as the 1000 set do not come with fixings due to the DL1000 coming with guards as standard so they assume you already have the fixings. Should cost about 20-30 quid.

[markmoto]

I did about 80miles on sunday and i was warm apart from my hands, when i got back i realised i had my vented gloves on :-) not the best choice of handware this time of year :rolleyes:

[Jay1]

I've got a pair of very cheap kevlar fabric summer gloves that I had been wearing with a pari of under gloves for ages, and they kept my hands warm enough most of the time. I bought a pair of A-Stars SP1's at the weekend which aint too dissimilar to the pro's and after about 20 miles my hands were absolutely frozen, even with the inners on and heated grips on. Didn't help that they aint warn in and a little tight on the tips, but christ they are well ventilated. My Old very cheap very thin gloves had to go back on for the last 70 miles or so of the journey and were warm enough even at about 1 or 2 degrees.

Leather race gloves really are not good when it gets cold. This I never realised and might have paid the extra 30quid for the goretex version had I known.

[kwak zzr]

i going shopping with cuz for gloves this afternoon :)

[Dangerous Dave]

Try some of the under gloves on the market, if you can get them to fit under your gloves. I personally use a pair of those disposible gloves you can get from a petrol station, they block the wind!!!

[TEC]

If you really must wear vented gloves at this time of year :rolleyes: then a pair of cold killer under gloves wont go amiss (assuming they fit), pair of decent winter (or at least not vented) will be a good option as well ;)

Then if you really want to stay warm on a long run get a heated waist coat, not unusual for me to do long runs (350+) in the following, leather trousers, light rain trousers, T shirt, sweat shirt, Widder, HG touring jacket, thermosport gloves and boots :)

[kwak zzr]

i got winter gloves :)

[-Ralph-]

As Jambo said!

Your body redirects blood flow away from your limbs and extremities when it detects a drop in temperature in the torso.

Your body is like a home central heating system, your torso is the combi boiler, your hands are the radiators and your blood is the water. If the combi boiler is struggling to get up to temperature, there's no way you'll get hot radiators. When the water passes through the radiators it looses heat, the body is an intelligent combi boiler which knows when it's struggling to get up to temperature, so it cuts off the hot water supply to the radiators to conserve heat.

Thats why in the cold it's your fingers, toes, nose, ears, etc that suffer first.

Keep the torso toasty and you'll notice a big difference in your hands and fingers as your body will naturally pump a constant supply of warm blood around them keeping them warm.

Unfortunately to keep the torso warm enough in close to freezing weather, at prolonged speed on a bike, means wearing enough gear on top to mean that you would be uncomfortably hot at a standstill or when filtering traffic, but if you can keep on the move during your commute, invest in a thermal vest to put under your clothes, and a fleece to put under your textiles, not more expensive gloves.

[zunkus]

DL650: Handguards Factory (Suzuki) handguards: The part number is 57300-27820-291.
http://perljam.net/motorcycle/dl650/handguards/

They won't look great but if you ride in winter, very effective and if you'll have warm hands while riding you won't mind the daft comments. Very effective in the rain too and will keep your gloves dry. Got a pair on my Supermoto used for daily commuting and are a great addition. Recommended.

[philbut]

HG Panthans are cheap and work well. Did 200 miles in the snow and cold this weekend and could still (just about) feel my fingers. heated grips are fine, but you still get cold finger tips I find - better off going for the heated gloves and then you don't have to have ugly chunky grips either. (its gettin towards the end of winter now so might get some cheap deals on ebay. I'm looking out for some to go touring in.

[TEC]

Unfortunately to keep the torso warm enough in close to freezing weather, at prolonged speed on a bike, means wearing enough gear on top to mean that you would be uncomfortably hot at a standstill or when filtering traffic,.....
Eh :confused:

...not unusual for me to do long runs (350+) in the following, leather trousers, light rain trousers, T shirt, sweat shirt, Widder, HG touring jacket, thermosport gloves and boots :)
As you said, keep the torso warm etc etc but you don't have to dress michelin man to do it :)

[Lissa]

Try some of the under gloves on the market, if you can get them to fit under your gloves. I personally use a pair of those disposible gloves you can get from a petrol station, they block the wind!!!

+1 on Pete's behalf, as he's gone to bed:D

[gettin2dizzy]

went out today and did 30ish miles but when i got back i was soooo cold it hurt:( any tips for keeping hands warm? i got alpinestars gp pro gloves. i need to sort something out before nw3, if 30 miles hurt whats 300 gonna feel like?
300 wasn't too bad. I did Newcastle - Cardiff yesterday leaving at 4pm; which totalled about 340 miles. Was cold at times - I was a little annoyed when it started snowing ;) If only my SECOND set of heated grips hadn't stopped working before winter had started....again.

[gettin2dizzy]

HG Panthans are cheap and work well. Did 200 miles in the snow and cold this weekend and could still (just about) feel my fingers. heated grips are fine, but you still get cold finger tips I find - better off going for the heated gloves and then you don't have to have ugly chunky grips either. (its gettin towards the end of winter now so might get some cheap deals on ebay. I'm looking out for some to go touring in.
No thanks to falling off with Pathans

[-Ralph-]

Eh :confused:


As you said, keep the torso warm etc etc but you don't have to dress michelin man to do it :)

Depends what you class as Michelin man doesn't it.

T' Shirt, Sweatshirt, Touring Jacket (which I assume has a quilted winter lining zipped in underneath), but thats 4 layers, IMO you are dressed like michelin man mate! ;) (not sure what a Widder is so I haven't counted it).

For my 15 mile motorway run to work I just throw my touring jacket with quited lining, over my cotton shirt, so 3 layers, shirt, lining and jacket. Once your on the move, it's not warm when it's 5 degrees or below, especially around the front zip, but it's not uncomfortably cold either, hands would get cold if I tried to do more than 1/2 hour like that though.

For longer runs I put on either a thermal vest under my cotton shirt or a fleece under my touring jacket, or if it's below freezing I use both (that is fat Michelin man but only on the odd occasion!). That keeps my hands from getting cold, but in the time it takes me between putting the stuff on and getting the bike out of the garage, I'm boiling! Get slowed to 30mph for any length of time, and I'm boiling too.

Basically do whatever you need to do to keep your torso the same as it would be at normal room temperature whilst travelling at speed, and you won't get such cold hands. Sufficient clothing to do that IMO does mean your boiling at a standstill though.

[TEC]

....Touring Jacket (which I assume has a quilted winter lining zipped in underneath),...
Has a liner but its pretty rubbish IMO, only covers to small of back :(

(not sure what a Widder is so I haven't counted it).
Heated jacket :)

but thats 4 layers, IMO you are dressed like michelin man mate!
5 if you count the widder ;) but thats not my early morning commute, that is just a light office shirt and the jacket (with its liner) :)

hands would get cold if I tried to do more than 1/2 hour like that though.
Which is where all this started, my hands may get cold but they don't feel cold

.....Sufficient clothing to do that IMO does mean your boiling at a standstill though.
All I will say is the Widder has an off switch ;)

[thedonal]

I've got a pair of Richa Baltic gloves- thinsulate lining and nice and thick- I also got them a size larger, so there's a little bit of airspace around the fingertips to insulate further. That also leave space for a pair of inner gloves- I've often heard that silk is the best material for this.

As said above, if you keep your core temperature higher, then your fingers will freeze slower. Porridge before you leave? :)