Anti-Pinch Pin

[gettin2dizzy]

Anyone used one? As with all security; it's only as safe as the weakest point so I don't want to spend a fortune on an Almax chain and then hook it to a piece of crap!

Cheers,

Rob.

[gettin2dizzy]

http://www.torc-anchors.com/anti-pinch-pin.php
may help

It's just a pin that can be pushed through the frame.

http://www.torc-anchors.com/prodimages/anti-pinch-pin-gsxr-0.7m-right-side-rear-view-lrg.jpghttp://www.torc-anchors.com/prodimages/AntiPinchPin-3DView-lrg.jpg
http://www.torc-anchors.com/prodimages/anti-pinch-pin-plus-wheel-rvf-1.5m-left-side-lrg.jpg

[muffles]

Ooh that's an interesting idea, haven't seen one of those before. No idea how good they are but I'm interested in one!

[Dangerous Dave]

Seems a clever idea, will it fit under seat though???

[Alpinestarhero]

That looks like a great idea, i could do with one of those

Matt

[600+]

People in Spain have been using these (or similar) on Vespas for years :)

[gettin2dizzy]

Well I've just bought a 2m and a 1.5m Almax Series 4 chain. That in conjunction with my Oxford Monster, Datatool system 4 and a lampost will have me sleeping well this weekend :)

I hate having things nicked ;)

[Dangerous Dave]

and a lampost
They are buggers to carry around with you on the bike though!

[gettin2dizzy]

Just need more torque ;)

[gettin2dizzy]

this makes for interesting viewing!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck&feature=user

[Alpinestarhero]

this makes for interesting viewing!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck&feature=user

The vid that made me buy the series IV almax :cool:

Let us know how you get on with the pin thingy, pics and all :D

Matt

[Ceri JC]

I take it you just slide these through the frame to give you somewhere to chain a big chain to other than the wheels? I presume it doesn't stay in place when you're actually riding the bike?

[muffles]

I take it you just slide these through the frame to give you somewhere to chain a big chain to other than the wheels? I presume it doesn't stay in place when you're actually riding the bike?

That's the one! I'm going to look at my new bike before I buy one, not sure if it fits yet.

[Ceri JC]

Has anyone used one of these on a pointy? I am giving very serious thought to buying one, but can't see any reference being made to SVs on the site.

[hovis]

how strong is the pin?

as its no good having a 200quid chain if the bolt can be cut in a few mins?

[Mr Speirs]

Good point hovis. Would like to see some sort or testing on it similar to what Almax show you. (that vid is what made me buy an Almax chain)

[Mr Speirs]

Ceri JC there is a fella by the name of GordonM on here that has one, he recommended it to me see 'Rate My Security' Thread he is using it on a K8 pointy through the frame underneath the tank. Dont know what length tho maybge he'll see this and enlighten us with more info.

[muffles]

how strong is the pin?

as its no good having a 200quid chain if the bolt can be cut in a few mins?

It's a lot thicker than the Almax links, so I think it's strong enough - because it doesn't need to move around like a chain it can be made stronger. That's the problem with chains, they are physically big but it's not a solid lump of metal, because it needs to bend round stuff, etc. Chances are it would take longer to angle grind through, due to sheer volume of material.

Having said that I haven't tried it. Btw if the Almax links only just fit in a bolt cropper (from the videos I've seen) you're unlikely to be able to fit the pin itself in a bolt cropper.

[GordonM]

It was this thread that I first learned about the anti-pinch pin and made me join sv650.org, thanks gettin2dizzy :D

I bought the 490 mm long Anti-pinch pin which seems fine, the ends of chain fit on comfortably without pressing against the fairing.

I put the pin through the small triangular hole in the frame under the tank. I have to be careful to avoid some wires and pipes though. There's a pipe which I think is the coolant going into the rear cylinder of the engine that can't be totally avoided. The pin is partly resting on this and partly resting on the frame at the right hand side of the bike.

I have my chain through my ground anchor and coming up each side of the bike to the pin, then padlocked with the Squire SS65CS padlock. My chain is an Almax Series IV 19mm chain. The ground anchor is a Colossus concrete-in type flush with the ground.

It works great and I feel my bike is much safer now than when I just had a chain through the back wheel. Though I know anything can be destroyed with the right equipment.

Photo time....


This is the hole in the frame where I put the pin. The bit of light you see above the hose is where I put the pin. When the bike is tilted to the left on the side stand, the frame at the right takes part of the weight of the pin and chain.
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_1.jpg


Chained to ground anchor:
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_2.jpg

http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_3.jpg

2 metre chain, 3 links unused. I had to cut slits in the cover at the 4th link to allow the pin to pass through. This makes the chain tight around the ground anchor and onto the pin.
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_4.jpg
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_5.jpg
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_6.jpg

Err, I hope no one is still on dialup with all these images.

[hindle8907]

can some one tell me where to get this pinch pin for a sv650n K6 i have the ALMAX 19mm IV as well 2meter
cheers

[Mr Speirs]

torcanchors.co.uk

[hindle8907]

what size do i need :P i dont have my SV yet so i cant measure it lol ...i get it next week at some point !

[Mr Speirs]

Ill just go measure mine now. Thats what she said ooooh missus.

[hindle8907]

Ill just go measure mine now. Thats what she said ooooh missus.

lol cheers

[Mr Speirs]

Mine is 490mm

[hindle8907]

kool they dont have any stock of the 490mm at the moment would a 440mm fit ?

[Mr Speirs]

It should be okay. Mine is on a curvy but I can't see it being that much different.
On mine I would say that it is about 5cm too long anyways so a 440mm should be fine. It'll probably be a better and safer fit also.
Tell you what you should have bought the chain and lock from them also as the Anti-Pinch Pin comes waaaaaay down in price if you do.
They seem to have increased the price on them I paid £40 for mine last year.

[xXBADGERXx]

Don`t forget this only works with the Squire Stronghold lock as well , has anyone had a bad experience with these things ?

[Mr Speirs]

I haven't had a bad experience with these. The sheer amount on material to get through needs a pretty massive angle grinder :)

Will be getting another one for my ducati also.

[xXBADGERXx]

Mine arrived today . It was a 490mm version and to be honest is a tad too long , but seeing as I have the 2.5 metre Almax chain I decided to put the chain one side of the bike , thread the pin through that , thread the pin through the frame , pulled the chain through the Ground Anchor til it was off the floor then measured the next link tight to the other end so all of the chain is now off the deck . I cut a hole through the covering on the chain and put that link on the free end of the Pinch Pin , with a little bit of Pin showing I managed to also hook the very end of the chain on as well so no Pin is showing and managed to get the lock on the end . I reckon I can chain my bike up with minimum fussage now and it is a hell of lot more secure than it was before . Anyone touches it my other security measures will let me know in a jiffy and it is "Long Pointy Iron Bar" time :smt077

I got mine from http://www.elitesecuritysupplies.com/security_chains_antipinchpin.html as it worked out slightly cheaper than getting it from the manufacturer funnily enough .

[yorkie_chris]

You mean your snoring isn't enough to scare off any potential thieves?

[xXBADGERXx]

It`s a recording to lull them into a false sense of security , they think I am asleep then , instead of realising I am waiting by the door with my nose pressed to the glass and eyes open for the slightest "Mouse fart" of movement :)

[Lozzo]

I chose to move to a less pikey area and haven't had my bikes or property messed with since.

[xXBADGERXx]

I`ve only ever had one bike stolen due to no security whatsoever , it was a local lad and his dad used to work with me . I was told it was him and went around the house with a Saw and knocked on the door . His dad answered and I said "I know your boy did it and when I catch him , I will saw his fingers off on his right hand so he never rides a bike again" . The lad skipped town and I have not seen hide nor hair of him in 4 years . Other than that , we rarely have bikes stolen around here by Equipped van gangs , just scrotes nicking scramblers and such like .

[Malice19]

It was this thread that I first learned about the anti-pinch pin and made me join sv650.org, thanks gettin2dizzy :D

I bought the 490 mm long Anti-pinch pin which seems fine, the ends of chain fit on comfortably without pressing against the fairing.

I put the pin through the small triangular hole in the frame under the tank. I have to be careful to avoid some wires and pipes though. There's a pipe which I think is the coolant going into the rear cylinder of the engine that can't be totally avoided. The pin is partly resting on this and partly resting on the frame at the right hand side of the bike.

I have my chain through my ground anchor and coming up each side of the bike to the pin, then padlocked with the Squire SS65CS padlock. My chain is an Almax Series IV 19mm chain. The ground anchor is a Colossus concrete-in type flush with the ground.

It works great and I feel my bike is much safer now than when I just had a chain through the back wheel. Though I know anything can be destroyed with the right equipment.

Photo time....


This is the hole in the frame where I put the pin. The bit of light you see above the hose is where I put the pin. When the bike is tilted to the left on the side stand, the frame at the right takes part of the weight of the pin and chain.
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_1.jpg


Chained to ground anchor:
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_2.jpg

http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_3.jpg

2 metre chain, 3 links unused. I had to cut slits in the cover at the 4th link to allow the pin to pass through. This makes the chain tight around the ground anchor and onto the pin.
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_4.jpg
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_5.jpg
http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_6.jpg

Err, I hope no one is still on dialup with all these images.

THANKS ALOT FOR YOUR POST/TIME UPLOADING PICS :mrgreen:
Just answered my Thread http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=196034 Cheers :grin:

[Malice19]

kool they dont have any stock of the 490mm at the moment would a 440mm fit ?

It should be okay. Mine is on a curvy but I can't see it being that much different.
On mine I would say that it is about 5cm too long anyways so a 440mm should be fine. It'll probably be a better and safer fit also.
Tell you what you should have bought the chain and lock from them also as the Anti-Pinch Pin comes waaaaaay down in price if you do.
They seem to have increased the price on them I paid £40 for mine last year.

Im looking to buy this Anti pinch pin but a bit stuck as not sure what size i should get as some of you have said 490 is a bit too long so just want to make sure that if i do go for the 440mm that it will fit through the same triangle part of my SV650s frame along with my Almax Immobiliser Series IV Uber + Squire SS65CS Lock?

Please advise cheers :cool:

http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_2.jpg

[Malice19]

Im looking to buy this Anti pinch pin but a bit stuck as not sure what size i should get as some of you have said 490 is a bit too long so just want to make sure that if i do go for the 440mm that it will fit through the same triangle part of my SV650s frame along with my Almax Immobiliser Series IV Uber + Squire SS65CS Lock?

Please advise cheers :cool:

http://marcusarcus.co.uk/anti-pinch-pin/SV650SportK8_2.jpg

Revecived a quick reply from Steve : D
But better check and measure it myself :rolleyes:

Hi,

Thanks for your enquiry.

We have several people with SVs using the Pin and a mixture of 440mm and 490mm lengths. Nobody has used the term 'full fairing' before so I can't tell whether the 440mm Pin will be OK on that or not, I'm afraid.

From my notes, we have two that mention the 440mm Pin but they are both somewhat vague in the description of the bike:

SV650 440mm Pin "Fits Perfect" through the small triangular hole in the frame under the tank.
SV650 "pointy" 440mm Pin

We always suggest that you measure for yourself, following the guidance on our web site. Remember to add up to 90mm for the chain links (19mm x 2) plus the lock.

Yes, the heatshrink is there to protect the paintwork etc on the bike.

There is more info on our web site:

http://securityforbikes.com/anti-pinch-pin.php

(the heatshrink is described near the bottom of that page, under "Protecting your Bike").

Thanks,

Steve.

[Ceri JC]

They're great, used one on my SV (through the frame) for a couple of years living in a really rough area. Vastly more secure than a chain through the back wheel.

[Malice19]

They're great, used one on my SV (through the frame) for a couple of years living in a really rough area. Vastly more secure than a chain through the back wheel.

What size are you using? 440 or 490?

[Malice19]

Just to confirm that the 440mm Anti pinch pin fits great on my 2009 SV650s : D
All locked up with Almax Immobiliser Series IV Uber + Squire SS65CS Lock :D

[Ceri JC]

What size are you using? 440 or 490?

490. It's snug, but it fits (K4 SV650s, without fairings). Using an 2.0M Almax III Series chain.

I also used the same cement in Anchor as in GordonM's pics.

[madmanRAB]

Me thinks it's time to upgrade from a chain (and a crap one at that!) through the rear tyre. I've always wanted a garage.. lol

[EmptyBit]

Sorry to dig this thread up but has anyone got photos of this installed?

It looks like anti pinch pin would be kinda loose in the triangle below fuel tank but I'm trying to imagine the photos that once existed in this thread!

[yokohama]

I don't have photos of it on my SV but it fitted through the frame of a pointy fine. I'm not sure what you mean by loose ... it's attached to a chain at either end and looped through a ground anchor. I'm still using it on my Yamaha. The APP goes through the frame lower down, above the clutch cover. Can give you pics of that if any use.

[EmptyBit]

I don't have photos of it on my SV but it fitted through the frame of a pointy fine. I'm not sure what you mean by loose ... it's attached to a chain at either end and looped through a ground anchor. I'm still using it on my Yamaha. The APP goes through the frame lower down, above the clutch cover. Can give you pics of that if any use.

Pics would be useful. I put it through the triangle marked on photo below. I just felt like the APP is swimming in there and I might be at risk of damaging hoses with it resting there. I can wiggle it around quite a lot. Probably can't pull it through because of the chain like you say but it just feels less than optimal.

https://i.imgur.com/ugUpnVl.png

[yokohama]

Yep, that's where mine went. It's the 440mm length pin. I don't know if it makes a difference but mine was a K4 naked and I think I managed to poke it through at an angle avoiding all the hoses and resting on metal. See if you can move your hoses. The APP will move a little in situ but because of the head, it won't push through the gap in the frame and the padlock on the other side makes it impossible to pull through.
I'll take a few pics of it on the Yamaha tomorrow when it's light.

EDIT: Actually, I just found an old photo of my SV and here's a crop of the left side view. You can see the pipework and a gap to the other side where it's possible to place the pin without resting on top of the hoses.

https://dub01pap001files.storage.live.com/y4mP_ljGtO1ja005FY7mEhGUJwLsYn6M4TyhV2N6sKKTpw6yUe-uf8KbLHDqmCPUUgrpDdA708mmkWGwNsA6R5NW7fPU9myAXuPpC _2rijWnFDyyKsMKAhOQJxX1eT-ikcFlRfNDytGuUfWllhy7E-9f6LmEW5hISdnUcbns9BA7uOJwWxjX35TzOZpvOp8aX1d?widt h=1022&height=1024&cropmode=none

[EmptyBit]

I got a better pic of inside.

https://i.imgur.com/FUeRw9x.png

It's the arrow marked hose and connector that are mostly in the way. I either have to rest the APP on them or would have to put pressure on the hose if I put APP underneath. Not too confident on either method really.

Like this (resting on top of hose) is only real way at the moment.
https://i.imgur.com/5zijZML.png

[yokohama]

I think that would be OK. I may be wrong but if that's a coolant hose, it'll be pretty strong anyway. All I can say is that I put the APP through there and never had any problems in the 4 years I owned the SV.

[EmptyBit]

Fair enough. It does seem like it wouldn't be a huge issue as long as placed carefully. Just a shame it doesn't quite fit under the hose.

I guess a thief trying to remove it could cause some damage but the alternative is through the rear wheel which they could just remove... Seems silly buying nice chain and anchor only to lock the rear wheel :)

[yokohama]

Here's how I'm using it on an XSR900. (old sock to protect the frame) Its unlikely a thief would attack the APP, it's a solid lump of steel. They'd be much more likely to go for easier options like the lock or the chain.
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