Need a new chain and sprocket... Which?

[sv_rider1990]

Right its come the time where i need a new chain and sprocket. I am after a good quality one that will last me a while and i can get maximum use out of it. Also i would like to increase the acceleration by getting a smaller front sprocket or whatever you have to do to increase acceleration. I have seen a Tsubaki chain and sprocket set: http://www.intobikes.co.uk/products?detail=product&id=001012&sg=OR&st=pt&pt=0041&i2bcam=adwds&i2bkid=power%20chain%20sprocket%20kits&gclid=CMeq6LW7uZICFQyrQwodplS6cg&search=

Is this any good. Also could anyone else reccomend and give me links to an alternative and if anyones got any experiance with this ^^ chain and sprocket if its any good??

Thanks

Ash

[Scoobs]

Tsubaki chain and Renthal sprockets are good. I have used that combination before. May also want to compare prices from B&C Express.

[sv_rider1990]

I know renthal stuff is good my dad used some of their stuff on his old bandit.... Have B n C Express got a website?

[Scoobs]

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/

[Dangerous Dave]

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/
+ 1, B&C is what I use

[northwind]

Renthal sprockets are aluminium though, they need a bit more TLC and won't last like steel can usually- if you baby them they do last very well, far better than most ally sprockets, but a stif chain will tear them apart in no time.

Really steel makes more sense, they're cheap and very tough, and the weight difference isn't much- you won't notice it. I use Renthal sprockets essentially because I'm a moron and because I'm on an ill-conceived weight-loss crusade :rolleyes: but if I wasn't I'd use the OEM set. Though on that thought, OEM is an endless link which means removing the swingarm. Most people don't want to do that, I always think it's a good idea since otherwise nobody ever lubricates their swingarm linkages :mrgreen:

[Dangerous Dave]

I always think it's a good idea since otherwise nobody ever lubricates their swingarm linkages :mrgreen:
+ 1

[sv_rider1990]

I think i'll go for the kit that ive put a link to... I've got a scottoiler fitted so hopefully it'll last a long time.

[ezrider111]

Hey whats up guy's i just bought driven 525 chain and rear sprocket i haven't even got it on my bike yet but i heard really go0d things about it so that's what i went with. now i have a question is SV 650s 2005 a 525 or do i need to change the front sprocket as well or will stock SV front sprocket be fine with my new driven 525 rear sprocket

Thanks in advance

[jambo]

Hey whats up guy's i just bought driven 525 chain and rear sprocket i haven't even got it on my bike yet but i heard really go0d things about it so that's what i went with. now i have a question is SV 650s 2005 a 525 or do i need to change the front sprocket as well or will stock SV front sprocket be fine with my new driven 525 rear sprocket

Thanks in advance
I'm a little lost. The SV650 uses a 525 chain as standard, changing the number of teeth on the sprockets will alter the final gearng on the bike making it feel different though.

[ezrider111]

I'm a little lost. The SV650 uses a 525 chain as standard, changing the number of teeth on the sprockets will alter the final gearng on the bike making it feel different though.

i got a 525 chain and sprocket i wasn't sure if i had to get a front sprocket as well, i didn't know the SV was already 525 :confused: that's why i didn't put it on yet so i hope that's a little clearer and that's why i joined this forum don't know much about bikes i just see so many people getting help on here:riding:

[Dangerous Dave]

You always want to replace both Sprockets and chain all at the same time, a worn chain will wear new sprockets or warn sprokets will wear a new chain!

[Ruffy]

You always want to replace both Sprockets and chain all at the same time, a worn chain will wear new sprockets or warn sprokets will wear a new chain!
+1. And this wear will be much faster than a new chain & sprockets wear together. It's a false economy not to replace all at the same time.

[ezrider111]

You always want to replace both Sprockets and chain all at the same time, a worn chain will wear new sprockets or warn sprokets will wear a new chain!

ok co0l thanks bro when i ordered it online i seen Driven 525 sprocket SET when it got here just had the rear sprocket :smt018 so i guess i need to order one :rant: man i wanted to put it on

Thanks guys cheers

[Dangerous Dave]

Sprocket set usually implies a pair, front and rear. Ask the seller/supplier and see if you were supposed to get both sprockets.

[Spanner Man]

I think i'll go for the kit that ive put a link to... I've got a scottoiler fitted so hopefully it'll last a long time.

Morning all.

The kit above contains an AP/Apx grade chain, which Tsubaki recommend for the SV.
I have found that their SG/SGX premium chain lasts appreciably longer & is well worth the extra £. Ask Derbybiker.

Cheers.

[thedonal]

All this is good- intobikes do a kit for about £80-90 for Tsubaki chain and steel sprockets. I shall be purchasing at the end of the month, as I've got a tight spot and it's getting to changing time anyway...

[philbond07]

Renthal sprockets are aluminium though, they need a bit more TLC and won't last like steel can usually- if you baby them they do last very well, far better than most ally sprockets, but a stif chain will tear them apart in no time.

Really steel makes more sense, they're cheap and very tough, and the weight difference isn't much- you won't notice it. I use Renthal sprockets essentially because I'm a moron and because I'm on an ill-conceived weight-loss crusade :rolleyes: but if I wasn't I'd use the OEM set. Though on that thought, OEM is an endless link which means removing the swingarm. Most people don't want to do that, I always think it's a good idea since otherwise nobody ever lubricates their swingarm linkages :mrgreen:

Yes that's what I think too. I think I'll go for the genuine front sprocket (with rubbers on the side for chain soft-landing & low-noise) and the genuine or aftermarket rear sprocket, plus a 525vm2 did chain.
Wonder though if there is much quality difference in the steel rear sprockets between afam, jt, renthal, ... ?

[petevtwin650]

Yes that's what I think too. I think I'll go for the genuine front sprocket (with rubbers on the side for chain soft-landing & low-noise) and the genuine or aftermarket rear sprocket, plus a 525vm2 did chain.
Wonder though if there is much quality difference in the steel rear sprockets between afam, jt, renthal, ... ?

Buy the kit from a suzuki dealer. Only about 110 quid all in. Only thing extra you'll have to buy if you're picky is the locktab for the front sprocket nut. The chain is endless but comes with a soft link in the box.

[sv_rider1990]

Right ordered a renthal front sprocket 1 tooth less on the front.... Renthal alluminium lightweight rear sprocket and a gold Iris chain also while taking the rear wheel off i shall replace the rubber bushes in the wheel with new ones.

I was going to get the tsukabi kit but thought id spend abit extra.

[petevtwin650]

I put a 14 tooth sprocket on then went back to a 15. Felt it was wearing the chain quicker. I think a few others on here may have done the same, but not sure.

[Spanner Man]

Buy the kit from a suzuki dealer. Only about 110 quid all in. Only thing extra you'll have to buy if you're picky is the locktab for the front sprocket nut. The chain is endless but comes with a soft link in the box.


Morning all.

Beware some O/E kits, as sometimes they contain a lesser grade of chain than standard.
Most of the Nips have chains supplied with different numbers on them, making it hard to determine how the chain compares with the aftermarket grades the chain manufacturers supply.

I've never thought that the original SV chain was much cop, I usually find that a Tsubaki SG & JT sprockets will outlast the original on the same bike, with the same rider. This could be due to the rider taking better care of it, for they know they'll get an earbashing from me if they don't!:D

Cheers.

[philbond07]

Buy the kit from a suzuki dealer. Only about 110 quid all in. Only thing extra you'll have to buy if you're picky is the locktab for the front sprocket nut. The chain is endless but comes with a soft link in the box.

well the genuine drivechain kit comes with an older 525v o-ring did. Would still be ok for the price you state, but not in Benelux I'm afraid. Kit costs 200E here, which is about 160gbp :(

Genuine sprockets only will be at 63gbp. But I think they are very good, 22000km and nearly no visible usage.

[sv_rider1990]

Well ive researched and the iris is a X ring gold chain and i have a scottoiler so it should prelong the wear. This is its first new chain after 21000 miles and the bikes 10 years old so it cant be bad at all.

My local garage wanted 120 quid for it using oem parts ive bought after market better quality stuff for 130 quid and that includes the chain breaker and a paddock stand. I will be reffering to hear and the Haynes manual if i get stuck as me and my dad are going to tackle it ourselves.

[sv_rider1990]

This is the description:
Iris 525XR-108 X-RING Gold Chain. [HL647109] ?58.95


You can buy with confidence. At bitzforbikes we only list and sell chains of a suitable quality for your bike. The dearer of the chains listed for your bike would be the OEM chain (quality of chain when your bike was new). But all chains listed are capable of doing the job. It all depends on the amount of money you would like to spend, and the type of chain you would like.
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Bitzforbikes have been selling Iris chains for many years with no complaints. Iris chains are of excellent quality and offer great value for money.
. Iris X - ring chains have dirt and watertight links, this has been achieved with a special seal with four lips. Due to its lower level of friction, its operation is softer and cooler than an O - ring chain because it engages better. Furthermore, X?Ring increases the lifetime of the chain considerably. Specially designed to be used on high powered as well as touring bikes. The benefits of the X?Ring chains over standard O?Ring chains are substantial. http://www.bitzforbikes.co.uk/photo/iris%20x%20ring.JPG

[Spanner Man]

[quote=sv_rider1990;1464748]This is the description:
Iris 525XR-108 X-RING Gold Chain. [HL647109] ?58.95


You can buy with confidence. At bitzforbikes we only list and sell chains of a suitable quality for your bike.]


Not that you're biased or anything! (Mr salesman):D

I have found Iris chains to be considerably inferior to any of the makes that are fitted to Japanese bikes as original equipment. end of.


Cheers.

[glang]

one thing guys - never ever be tempted to use the clip link that often comes with new chains, join it with the rivetted link (needs a special tool) as I had a very nasty experience with a chain comin off at speed down here in spain in the middle of nowhere! :shaking:

[jambo]

one thing guys - never ever be tempted to use the clip link that often comes with new chains, join it with the rivetted link (needs a special tool) as I had a very nasty experience with a chain comin off at speed down here in spain in the middle of nowhere! :shaking:
The spring link is useful to fit the chain yourself and ride carefully to the local garage so they can rivet link it if you don't have the tools, but is certainly not recommended as permanent fitment

[steveg]

I have found Iris chains to be considerably inferior to any of the makes that are fitted to Japanese bikes as original equipment. end of.+1

My iris did 8k & it was scotoilered & it was completely gone , never had less than 15 k out of any other chain or less than 20k when scotoilered.....

Get a Tsubaki chain & steel sprockets

Cheers Steve

[glang]

The spring link is useful to fit the chain yourself and ride carefully to the local garage so they can rivet link it if you don't have the tools, but is certainly not recommended as permanent fitment

Your right but the trouble is everybody uses them 'temporarily' and like me never gets round to gettin the rivet link fitted! I still cant figure out how my spring link came undone after about 10k (the chain was at the end of its life) as it was installed correctly but still shot out the back of the bike at about 90mph. Luckly I was able to retrieve it from the autovia and having the rivet link, which I had kept on the bike, managed to rivet it by the side of the road using stones. It cost 2 hours of hard labour though!

[philbond07]

haha back to the stone age :farao:

[sv_rider1990]

My dad bought the chain link tool so we can fit it properly minus the spring link.

So are you guys saying Iris are pants then?

[Dangerous Dave]

So are you guys saying Iris are pants then?
Very Pants!!!

[sv_rider1990]

Well i havent got the cheap one ive got the better quality 1 and its an X ring one. They cant be that bad can they?