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cyphertheory
15-04-08, 08:34 AM
im looking at getting a new bike, and i was wondering if there are any supersports that offer the same kind of riding position as the SV?

im 6'5" so its important that i get a comfortable bike as im touring scotland this summer

ive tried my other halfs 02 ZXR636, but it was to high, and the clipons were too low

any advice?

plowsie
15-04-08, 08:39 AM
Same as the S or the N you mean?

My CBR is pretty much the same as I was on the SV. Then again its not really a SS.

philbut
15-04-08, 08:46 AM
If you don't mind having an older bike, yeah like Plowsie says, try an older 600. The riding position was more relaxed "back in the day". If you do want to go for the latest and greatest, why not try the GSXF, its got some great reviews and I think is a fair bit more roomy than a full on ss600 - but of course not as fast and with slightly cheaper components. Its a tough one.

cyphertheory
15-04-08, 08:48 AM
ah yeah sorry i should have said the pointy S model :D

neio79
15-04-08, 08:50 AM
NONE of the new SS600 at all. The older ones before they went anorexic would be better. but why would you want an older bike?

I would say, anything before 2000 would be ok and better than the newer ones.

plowsie
15-04-08, 08:51 AM
Yeah +1 on the GSX650F, try and get hold of the Bike review on it. Very good review.

$tevo
15-04-08, 08:51 AM
I reckon you'll be stuck with looking at the type of gear that Shelley was looking at if you're going SS - basically, retro fitting standard bars

T0mm0
15-04-08, 09:02 AM
I test rode a new R6 on Saturday and can say the riding position is similar to the SV. I expected to be hunched over the tank and my wrists aching but i wasn't. The seat is a little harder and found I could just about touch the ground (confortably) which surprised me. I really nice ride, totally different from riding a vtwin. The brakes are unbelieveable, so much better than the SV. I gave it lots of respect, didn't really chuck it about as the roads were alittle wet but it still managed to make me grin like a Cheshire cat.

Very tempted to switch but i'm not sure how commuting to London will suit such a bike. Plus the dealer was only prepared to give me £1000 for mine :(

Dangerous Dave
15-04-08, 09:23 AM
The most all round/touring comfortable SS600's are the CBR (non-RR), TT600 and the 98-02 ZXR's (G and J models I think). Thats not to say that you won't find the others comfortable though, try and get some test rides or at least get to sit on them!

fatneck
15-04-08, 11:37 AM
The most all round/touring comfortable SS600's are the CBR (non-RR), TT600 and the 98-02 ZXR's (G and E models I think).

Mine is an 01 ZX6R (J2 model) as in the pic, and as SS 600s go its quite big and not too 'head down ar53 up' as the current trend seems to be. Maybe look at the 900cc version though?!

Dangerous Dave
15-04-08, 11:40 AM
Mine is an 01 ZX6R (J2 model) as in the pic, and as SS 600s go its quite big and not too 'head down ar53 up' as the current trend seems to be. Maybe look at the 900cc version though?!
Oop's... thanks for that, the E model is the ZX9 and the J was the successor to the G model.

Original post updated....

fatneck
15-04-08, 12:05 PM
I'll be wanting the E then :-)

fizzwheel
15-04-08, 12:09 PM
K4 / K5 GSXR - they are wristy, but they are also physically big, so that might be worth a look at or the older 954cc Blades.

I know Jelster went from a K4 GSXR 600 to a Blade because the blade was easier on his back.

Might be worth a look at ?

ThEGr33k
15-04-08, 02:54 PM
TBH I think youll struggle with a SS600. You are better looking at the bigger older V-twins. RSV-R is supposed to be very good for taller people. Insurance on a RSV will probably be cheaper too! Which is odd imo... ha ha. Things like the older IL4's might also be ok for you. But modern stuff wont be comfortable for you. :(

You could go for other bikes which arnt quite as focused, Falco, SV thou, Fazer, etc etc.

plowsie
15-04-08, 03:24 PM
TBH I think youll struggle with a SS600. You are better looking at the bigger older V-twins. RSV-R is supposed to be very good for taller people. Insurance on a RSV will probably be cheaper too! Which is odd imo... ha ha. Things like the older IL4's might also be ok for you. But modern stuff wont be comfortable for you. :(

You could go for other bikes which arnt quite as focused, Falco, SV thou, Fazer, etc etc.
Here he goes, Mr V Twin biased :p:smt025:jocolor::smt046

neio79
15-04-08, 03:45 PM
. You are better looking at the bigger older V-twins. RSV-R is supposed to be very good for taller people. But modern stuff wont be comfortable for you. :(




why would he want to get an RSV-R its just as focused as a SS600, but bigger!

My ZX6R is actually more comfy than the SV use to be.

ThEGr33k
15-04-08, 11:02 PM
why would he want to get an RSV-R its just as focused as a SS600, but bigger!

My ZX6R is actually more comfy than the SV use to be.

Ive seen lots of reviews of the Nice (older) models being good for taller riders. For a sports bike... The new RSV-R then yea id agree its very sporty. :)

Yes Plowsie I love V-twins... with the way so many people seem to be going (IL4's) we need the local fanatic :smt037.

yorkie_chris
15-04-08, 11:42 PM
TLS, something that's an un-sanitised "proper" bike. :D

Lozzo
16-04-08, 12:28 AM
Same as the S or the N you mean?

My CBR is pretty much the same as I was on the SV. Then again its not really a SS.

I think the SV is more radical in riding position than the steel-framed CBR, or at least mine feels that way.

My CBR became a little more uncomfy today, fitted the clip-ons below the top yoke so I can get lower down on track. Have to make some lock stops now cos the control levers hit the clocks, but that won't restrict steering range too much.

Dangerous Dave
16-04-08, 07:03 AM
TLS, something that's an un-sanitised "proper" bike. :D
Hmmmm... lovely bikes!!!!

Dicky Ticker
16-04-08, 07:40 AM
If you are looking for a touring bike buy a tourer not a SS. I have a 955 Sprint
and it is even more comfortable than the SV,similar MPG[50ish]21.5lt tank giving 250miles before the fuel light, 500mile days no problem,fitted hard luggage[Removable] a bit heavier to handle but feels more planted[Not so light on the front end]. The triple engine gives you the same torque as the twin and pulls well from as low as 2000rpm so less gear changes,capable of cruising at 80 all day long[5000rpm with 9200max] with a similar performance two up as a SV one up and when you go above 6000rpm it feels like somebody has kicked it up the backside. Plenty of lowmileage i.e below 20,000, about at very reasonable prices.[955 cheaper than 1050]
It may feel like a tank but I can assure you that it is well capable of keeping up with most SS600 but the big difference being at the end of the day when the SS rider is knackered you feel like you could carry on due to the easier ride and comfort.
As an example I was out with a Z1000 and a 675Tona yesterday for 200miles and it was no problem having a "spirited" ride

Hope this is a little help if you intend doing some serious touring.

ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 08:34 AM
If you are looking for a touring bike buy a tourer not a SS. I have a 955 Sprint
and it is even more comfortable than the SV,similar MPG[50ish]21.5lt tank giving 250miles before the fuel light, 500mile days no problem,fitted hard luggage[Removable] a bit heavier to handle but feels more planted[Not so light on the front end]. The triple engine gives you the same torque as the twin and pulls well from as low as 2000rpm so less gear changes,capable of cruising at 80 all day long[5000rpm with 9200max] with a similar performance two up as a SV one up and when you go above 6000rpm it feels like somebody has kicked it up the backside. Plenty of lowmileage i.e below 20,000, about at very reasonable prices.[955 cheaper than 1050]
It may feel like a tank but I can assure you that it is well capable of keeping up with most SS600 but the big difference being at the end of the day when the SS rider is knackered you feel like you could carry on due to the easier ride and comfort.
As an example I was out with a Z1000 and a 675Tona yesterday for 200miles and it was no problem having a "spirited" ride

Hope this is a little help if you intend doing some serious touring.


My old man like's his too. Good bike. Any of the 955i Range would be good for you. Maybe the sportier Daytona if that's what you like? :cool:

yorkie_chris
16-04-08, 09:40 AM
See Rictus' speed triple if you want to see something "interesting" with one of those engines in :-D

rob13
16-04-08, 09:45 PM
If Nick Sanders can go around the world on an R1, then im sure any bike is suitable for touring on.

ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 09:50 PM
If Nick Sanders can go around the world on an R1, then im sure any bike is suitable for touring on.

True... But arnt the 600's a little smaller?

Dicky Ticker
17-04-08, 10:56 AM
Was he travelling light or touring with a pillion-----horses for courses

fatneck
17-04-08, 11:00 AM
Credit card and mobile phone only this time I think? Awesome!!!

ThEGr33k
17-04-08, 11:41 AM
Credit card and mobile phone only this time I think? Awesome!!!

Huh?

fatneck
17-04-08, 11:45 AM
Ignore me, I'm talking b0ll0cks. As usual. Sorry!

ThEGr33k
17-04-08, 11:56 AM
Ignore me, I'm talking b0ll0cks. As usual. Sorry!


To be honest Id say you deffo win the random comment of the Year award! :smt045

yorkie_chris
17-04-08, 12:02 PM
Made sense to me :-P

ThEGr33k
17-04-08, 12:06 PM
Made sense to me :-P

I have had my suspicions for a while now but I officially think you are MAD! :smt077 :smt045

gettin2dizzy
17-04-08, 12:06 PM
and me :)

yorkie_chris
17-04-08, 12:07 PM
Well someone asked if he was travellign light on the R1, fatneck was on about the credit card and mobile phone method of travel, where you don't bother packing anything, just stay in hotels and stuff. See, perfectly sane. Wibble.

ThEGr33k
17-04-08, 12:57 PM
Well someone asked if he was travellign light on the R1, fatneck was on about the credit card and mobile phone method of travel, where you don't bother packing anything, just stay in hotels and stuff. See, perfectly sane. Wibble.

Ok... Still think your mad... ha ha. :smt041

gettin2dizzy
17-04-08, 01:07 PM
He just takes powernaps on the bike at fuel stops for a few days and then camps. Sounds ace!