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Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 08:31 AM
Seems to have vanished :shock: Weird. Perhaps it didn't belong in the section I put it?? :scratch:

Anyway, to report back 2 days after doing my innovative self repair. (not going to mention what it was in this thread as that might have been why whoever deleted it got the hump? as they don't see it as a valid repair?! :smt102).


Anyway - for those that are/were interested, 2 days later now, the tyre has only lost 1psi (was losing ~20psi/day with the original slow puncture), and to be honest, I think the 1psi could prolly down to temperature and gauge variance as I have done ‘spit tests’ and not a single bubble, so I don’t think it is losing anything!! 8)

I have done the spit test before and after riding, so cold and hot testing, not a single bubble! 8)

I have also speed tested it now and it held 110 fine (for legal reasons I’ll say 110KMH ;)).

As I said when I started this, I’ll keep a close eye on pressure/spit tests, but at day 2 I can’t see any negative/worrying signs to make me re-think!! :)

Oh and I intend to keep the tyre at ~38psi to minimise tyre deformation when in use :)

flymo
16-04-08, 08:47 AM
Seems to have vanished :shock: Weird. Perhaps it didn't belong in the section I put it?? :scratch:

Anyway, to report back 2 days after doing my innovative self repair. (not going to mention what it was in this thread as that might have been why whoever deleted it got the hump? as they don't see it as a valid repair?! :smt102).


Anyway - for those that are/were interested, 2 days later now, the tyre has only lost 1psi (was losing ~20psi/day with the original slow puncture), and to be honest, I think the 1psi could prolly down to temperature and gauge variance as I have done ‘spit tests’ and not a single bubble, so I don’t think it is losing anything!! 8)

I have done the spit test before and after riding, so cold and hot testing, not a single bubble! 8)

I have also speed tested it now and it held 110 fine (for legal reasons I’ll say 110KMH ;)).

As I said when I started this, I’ll keep a close eye on pressure/spit tests, but at day 2 I can’t see any negative/worrying signs to make me re-think!! :)

Oh and I intend to keep the tyre at ~38psi to minimise tyre deformation when in use :)

now I'm intrigued with the repair. What was it? A bit of last weeks Apple Crumble pasted into the gaping hole :cool: and left to go hard in the sun.

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 08:50 AM
now I'm intrigued with the repair. What was it? A bit of last weeks Apple Crumble pasted into the gaping hole :cool: and left to go hard in the sun.

I'll PM you. :)

fizzwheel
16-04-08, 08:51 AM
After taking advice and a few PM's I removed it.

simesb
16-04-08, 08:55 AM
After taking advice and a few PM's I removed it.

Boo!! While not something I would do myself, it was an interesting discussion.

ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 08:57 AM
What could be so bad!? You make love to it? :S

fizzwheel
16-04-08, 08:59 AM
Boo!! While not something I would do myself, it was an interesting discussion.

And also potentially dangerous. We get alot of new riders on here, Some of them very green where it comes to stuff like this.

I have no doubt Blue is fully aware of the risks involved, but somebody new to riding might think this is a good idea and TBH if the worse happens and as a result of them following blues lead they hurt themselves, wreck their bike or potentially even worse... well it doesnt bear thinking about, especially with recent events....

Kinvig
16-04-08, 09:00 AM
bluetack? Superglue? Prittstick?

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 09:04 AM
bluetack? Superglue? Prittstick?

Now I know the reason for the first thread getting deleted, I am not going to post waht it was in this one am I!! :rolleyes:

flymo
16-04-08, 09:22 AM
Now I know the reason for the first thread getting deleted, I am not going to post waht it was in this one am I!! :rolleyes:

Animal, vegetable or mineral :rolleyes:

Nah, thats fair enough. I'ld probably best not talk about repairing my swing arm with an old walking stick and two bits of gardening wire then :(

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 09:24 AM
Fiz, and anyone that PM'd Fiz in secret, simply straddling a bike and venturing out on the road is dangerous/has inherent risk. We are all capable of making our own risk assessments! I consider simply being out on the road fighting my way through traffic, many times more potentially ‘dangerous’ than anything like this risk element that I’d consider introducing myself ...

As for the original post, I was careful to just make it a report on what I was doing and then a discussion about potential problems, NOT advice. It turned out that no one could actually come up with a valid reason why the repair itself suddenly made the tyre ‘highly dangerous’.

If you think about it, my repair risk assessment was only a bit like letting the tread run low/down on your tyre and still choosing to run it. Not wise, but you know the implications!! ;)

Just my 10p! ;)

Stu
16-04-08, 10:22 AM
I'll PM you. :)
If you've taken the effort to already write the pm, wanna send it my way too?
er... poor show old chap for someone to have a thread deleted & not be told? but then maybe he doesn't read his pm's? :neutral:

ThEGr33k
16-04-08, 10:54 AM
LOL my guess was as far out as it gets.... I guess... he he

Warthog
16-04-08, 10:56 AM
I saw your original post, you are one silly guy blue haha but glad to see it works so far! Just for the record, I am all for the thread being allowed; it was clearly a bad idea but he only wrote it as a report rather than advice. I still like to think people have their own responsibility and free will and can make their own mind up.

But blue, when it wears and hits the *repair*, you will be straight off is my guess, just a warning ;) or it might pull a bigger hole if it catches hehe

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 11:26 AM
But blue, when it wears and hits the *repair*, you will be straight off is my guess, just a warning ;) or it might pull a bigger hole if it catches hehe

I don't think it will - in fact, given the counter arguments I stated in the other thread, I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion at all!! - but lets not discuss the ins and outs else we will get this thread deleted!! :rolleyes:

:nomore:

husky03
16-04-08, 12:07 PM
Think that by now everyone will know that blue makes his own choices and backs them up with his point of view-right or wrong (in your own view) but thats his choice-i'm of the opinion that his post being removed is wrong-any normal minded(sorry blue but your not normal mate:))person wouldn't repair a puncture with an "object" other than a normal plug.

Things seem to be a bit off on this forum at the moment:(

husky

Ed
16-04-08, 12:30 PM
Think that by now everyone will know that blue makes his own choices and backs them up with his point of view-right or wrong (in your own view) but thats his choice-i'm of the opinion that his post being removed is wrong-any normal minded(sorry blue but your not normal mate:))person wouldn't repair a puncture with an "object" other than a normal plug.

Things seem to be a bit off on this forum at the moment:(

husky

Entirely disagree.

This is like threads that say 'It's OK to wear jeans, I came off at 30mph and I wasn't hurt, so it must be OK.' Well maybe you didn't get hurt, but it sends the wrong message to new riders.

In this case I agree that whilst Blue is hugely experienced and no doubt knows what he's doing, others not so skilled might try to copy, with disastrous results.

BTW I didn't send a PM.

husky03
16-04-08, 12:40 PM
Entirely disagree.

This is like threads that say 'It's OK to wear jeans, I came off at 30mph and I wasn't hurt, so it must be OK.' Well maybe you didn't get hurt, but it sends the wrong message to new riders.

In this case I agree that whilst Blue is hugely experienced and no doubt knows what he's doing, others not so skilled might try to copy, with disastrous results.

BTW I didn't send a PM.

Its your opinion to entirely disagree and i respect it, but if posts are gonna be removed incase a less experienced person copies do we then start removing threads where people do wheelies etc-the thing with blues post was that he gave his side and the response from the other posts were that it was a bad idea in there opinion-i'm saying that where do you draw the line in which post to remove?

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 12:59 PM
Its your opinion to entirely disagree and i respect it, but if posts are gonna be removed incase a less experienced person copies do we then start removing threads where people do wheelies etc

Or how about they say how they have removed their indicators/mirrors (or whatever) or put smaller/mini ones on coz it looks cool!! Should those sort of posts be removed as it has an inherent/potential danger aspect?

If people are talking about getting their kneeedown and ways to do it, KD virgins will read that and try it for themselves should that be removed?

At the end of the day my ‘repair’ method is actually only the same situation as something that every rider might come across naturally in their riding career.

It is likely at some point you will get a puncture/something in your tyre. What I suggested is no different (really) to something that might occur naturally and the rider to not realise, or even potentially never know/notice ride quite happily unawares for 1 miles or 1000+ miles!! ;) .. when you actually think about/rationalise it, me posting what I had done wasn’t really all that bad a thing to say in the scheme of things was it!?! :D

I actually have a lot of respect for Fiz and unlike some others, he seems like a ‘well rounded’ person. I am sure he acted predominately at the request of others, and as a mod that is what he has to do I guess?!!?

I don’t want the original thread reinstated, but just think it is a shame the people that PMd are so close minded! ;)

flymo
16-04-08, 01:06 PM
glad I'm not a mod :-(

Tara
16-04-08, 01:15 PM
to be honest does it really matter in the grand scheme of things

its been removed - deal with it- the idle banter mods have enought rubbish to sift through without worrying about a thread thats been deleted - Fizz has given you his reasons - if your still not happy PM him

go and worry and moan about something else

and i didn't complain either

Ed
16-04-08, 01:16 PM
Seems to me Blue that it's a matter of fact and degree, someone somewhere has to decide.

Viney
16-04-08, 01:20 PM
I actually have a lot of respect for Fiz and unlike some others, he seems like a ‘well rounded’ person. I am sure he acted predominately at the request of others, and as a mod that is what he has to do I guess?!!? Oi fizz, it hink he called you Fat! :lol:

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 01:22 PM
Oi you lot, this thread was started to report on my progress with the repair, it wasn't a moan!! :rolleyes: (as these things tend to do, it has started to de-rail/go off intended topic mind).

So back on topic:- 2 days in and it is all looking good, no adverse effects or the like! :)

Oi fizz, it hink he called you Fat! :lol:

:smt064 :lol:

fizzwheel
16-04-08, 01:24 PM
Oi fizz, it hink he called you Fat! :lol:

I think he did to, cheeky barsteward :D

kitkat
16-04-08, 01:26 PM
glad whatever you did is working for you blue

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 02:16 PM
glad whatever you did is working for you blue

Seems ok so far :)

When I need to make a repair, with a bit of thought, I can make something out of nothing every time ... If you have a problem and you can find him, call the Blue_ team!! :D

kitkat
16-04-08, 07:10 PM
you couldnt make a raptor chain could you?

Blue_SV650S
16-04-08, 07:13 PM
you couldnt make a raptor chain could you?


Have you got some duck-tape and cable ties?!!? Oh and a packet of screws!?! :D

flymo
16-04-08, 08:53 PM
you couldnt make a raptor chain could you?

No, but I can make a sausage roll.....punch line to follow.

lukemillar
17-04-08, 04:31 AM
bluetack? Superglue? Prittstick?

Now I know the reason for the first thread getting deleted, I am not going to post waht it was in this one am I!! :rolleyes:

baby batter!? :shock:

K
17-04-08, 06:37 AM
When I need to make a reply, with a bit of thought, I can make something out of nothing every time.

:mrgreen:

Blue_SV650S
17-04-08, 08:40 AM
"
When I need to make a reply, with a bit of thought, I can make something out of nothing every time.
"

:mrgreen:

Hummm .... so thinking about it, are you saying you want to sleep with me K?!? .. cheeky minx!! :smt045

:smt044

Blue_SV650S
17-04-08, 05:48 PM
3 days in and what must be ~100 miles now ... 0.1psi down (lets face it, I prolly let that much out testing it :oops: :D ) and still passes spit-test with no bubbles at all 8)

So far so good :)

I did end up having to elbow my way off the side of a van when filtering on the way home mind* :shock: ... but that was hardly the tyres/repairs fault ;)

*That is the kind of thing that is gonna finally 'get' me one day, not a home made repair :cry:

DoubleD
17-04-08, 06:34 PM
I did end up having to elbow my way off the side of a van when filtering on the way home mind* :shock: ... but that was hardly the tyres/repairs fault ;)

*That is the kind of thing that is gonna finally 'get' me one day, not a home made repair :cry:

DUDE! extream filtering or what.

Good to hear your tyre repair is still good.

Blue_SV650S
17-04-08, 06:50 PM
DUDE! extream filtering or what.

Good to hear your tyre repair is still good.

Meh, it happens from time to time ... most of the time you can see them readying a lane change/drift ... but sometimes a lane change sudden dash/dart by a driver it is pretty sudden/unpredictable I tend to keep it nailed and just elbow my way off the side if necessary. On this occasion, either the driver was eating his sarnies and drifted/swerved over or was picking up his prono mag/copy of the daily sport and drifted/swerved over right as I was past the point of no return passing him!! :smt103

For some reason when this sort of thing happens it fires me up and I start riding like a total c**t afterwards - until presumably the adrenalin subsides a bit and I resume to normal speed?!!? :scratch: :D

Blue_SV650S
21-04-08, 09:18 AM
Ok, so after about a weeks worth of riding (now wet and dry) and a weekend sat in the garage, the tyre has not actually lost any pressure (well up 0.2psi this AM actually, but that has to be due to ambient temp when checking ;)).

So a week on and all is well :)

As it has stayed up for a week now without loosing any pressure, I am not going to test the pressure with a gauge every day now. I WILL do a finger press check before every ride though.

But I have to say, as it stands it is very promising :)