Idiot Woman in a 4x4s! Grrrr!

[Steve_God]

Just feel the urge to rant... ignore if you don't feel like listening! :p

What is it with idiots in 4x4s who can't drive! A woman driving through Leicester CITY CENTRE nearly had me off TWICE with 3 separate stupid bits of driving in the space of a minute!

The scene: Normally I would be hooning around through traffic at this time of the morning (9:15am), but for once, I'd got the missus on the back dropping her off at work, and when she is pillion, I ride as safely as possible - wouldn't be able to live with myself if she got injured while on the back. So... there I was following traffic and a nice 28 mph round the ring road, St Georges Way is anyone knows it...

FIRST: I'm in the left hand lane following traffic, she's in the right, indicates to come in and just started to barge her way in less than a foot away from my front wheel. I use my horn to get the point across that I'm there incase she hasn't seen me. She keeps going across so I make a bit of room. I see that there's a junction coming up and that she's still indicating left, fair enough, she needs to get across to turn off, I'm happy with that.

SECOND: She DOESN'T take the exit... and the indicator remains on. So she pulled across for NO REASON! GRRRR!!!!
She then cancels her indicator, obviously has made a mistake and didn't need to take that exit, fair enough. The road then opens up to 3 lanes, with a new lane appearing at the left. She then filters into this left lane. Ok, she needed that exit instead of the other one, fair enough, although no bloody indication this time!! I then came along side her and gave her a quick pip of the horn, and she waved sorry. Ok, she knows I'm there, made a mistake, and will hopefully learn from it.

THIRD: I then get back to cruising speed and the 4x4 slowly pulls just ahead in the other lane. The left lane is quite a long one (200 metres) that then filters off to another road to the left. Then with no indication again, she pulls straight in front of me AGAIN as she now doesn't need that filter line!
Now had I already not been wary of her and left her a bit of space, I wouldn't been right alongside of her and she would've most likely wiped me out, as she didn't even look when she pulled across!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

Rant over! :D

[Luckypants]

With you on the rant, but that is just bad driving. Having a 4x4 or being a woman has nothing to do with it. She would have been as bad in a Nissan Micra.

There are some right numpties on the road.

[Baph]

Solution:

Loud horn (really does make a difference)... as soon as wheel hit the white line (dashed or not), honk. It really wakes people up.

Also, titanium knuckles for wing mirror readjustment purposes :)

[Samnooshka]

With you on the rant, but that is just bad driving. Having a 4x4 or being a woman has nothing to do with it. She would have been as bad in a Nissan Micra.

There are some right numpties on the road.

+1.... although us good 4x4 women drivers, who actually use them for what they are meant to be used for are given a bad name by the chelsea tractor types just dropping the kids off to school... usually in a Range Rover or Discovery, or on of those X5 thingies (but then i just put them into the crappy BMW driver bracket)! Oh and heaven forbid that they get a bit of dirt on them!!!

Took my 4x4 to the dealers for a service and they also valet it at the same time.... i went to pick it up and the guy tutted at me for the state it was in LOL!! They valeted the driver and passenger areas... but didn't go near the back with Lupo's mud and slobber stains LOL!!

[Steve_God]

I was very careful to put woman and not women, as there are some VERY good lady drivers out there! :p

[Samnooshka]

I was very careful to put woman and not women, as there are some VERY good lady drivers out there! :p
LOL yes i noticed you used woman not women lol

Was just having a rant at them myself LOL!!!

[chris8886]

Solution:

Also, titanium knuckles for wing mirror readjustment purposes :)

a favourite of mine too though not had to use em yet thankfully!!

[yorkie_chris]

Steel plated toes on your boots ... if you see any cars round leeds with big gouges out of the door then watch out, they're retarded :-P

[Jools'SV Now]

Ah, that's where you're going wrong.

You're seeing these 4x4s as vehicles.

Everybody else knows they're not vehicles, they're fashion accessesories.:money:

as such they aren't driven, they're worn.
they're not for looking out of, but for being seen in.

I take it she had the regulation 'Rachel' haircut, fake tan and large rimmed black sunglasses?:smt045

Not a traffic victim - a fashion victim.

If all else fails, follow until they have to stop at lights, get off your bike (parked behind - so can't see numberplate;)) bang on the window ridiculously hard(head butting it would probably be most effective), shouting 'CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?':smt077

[fatneck]

Also, titanium knuckles for wing mirror readjustment purposes :)


+1

[shifter]

It cracks me up. When I go swimming, I hardly ever see anyone in the pool who can't swim. So why when I go out on the road, do I see so many people who can't drive?

[yorkie_chris]

One once SMIDSY'd me on the 125, I stopped about 6inches from the front wing, daft slag with 2 kids in the back, I was tempted to punch her on the jaw like the last posh idiot who pulled out on me at the same junction but settled for a few choice words instead :-P .... I would have loved to have heard her response to the kids "mommy what does that word mean?" questions!!

[Balky001]

Also, titanium knuckles for wing mirror readjustment purposes :)

Doh! Doesn't that just make it worse for the next biker coming past i.e. no wing mirror at all? If anything you should stick another one on ;)

[ukrobuk]

A 4x4 is a persons way of saying they can't drive.
(Excludes drivers that NEEEEEEEEEED a 4x4)

[the_lone_wolf]

points lost for forgetting to claim your free wing mirror...

[yorkie_chris]

Doh! Doesn't that just make it worse for the next biker coming past i.e. no wing mirror at all? If anything you should stick another one on ;)

If you stuck an entire squadron of mod modded lambrettas to the side, they still wouldn't bother to look.

I say all agree on a colour, and any vehicle being a knob gets a good burst from a spray can on the door or rear quarter so as to warn the rest of us "warning, spastic at wheel"

[dizzyblonde]

:wink:One once SMIDSY'd me on the 125, I stopped about 6inches from the front wing, daft slag with 2 kids in the back, I was tempted to punch her on the jaw like the last posh idiot who pulled out on me at the same junction but settled for a few choice words instead :-P .... I would have loved to have heard her response to the kids "mommy what does that word mean?" questions!!

much as car dirvers should be told orf for just being there, a woman with 2 kids in the back is probably tearing her hair out,and come on chris you know its hard enough in my house concentrating with one kid around......couldn't imagine driving with one in the back too.

This doesn;t mean I am condoning all female drivers with kids in cars to drive without due observation and care......but to be sworn at and verbally abused in front of children isn't very nice, so before you open your mouth....have a peep first....oh and if its a giant mahooosive black Landrover.....I might let you off.......once;)

[yorkie_chris]

a woman with 2 kids in the back is probably tearing her hair out,

if its a giant mahooosive black Landrover

Tearing hair out: I don't care.

If you can't control your kids or at least ignore them then you shouldn't be on the road! Pull over, or muzzle them or something.

As for a bit of verbal abuse, it never killed anyone, and if it takes that, or maybe the slap round the chops I would have preffered, to get these morons to sort their heads out and realise other peoples lives might be more important than dropping the brats off in time to get to the salon, then so be it. It'll have expanded the kids' vocabularies anyway lmao.

[fatneck]

Would she rather get shouted at or have to sleep at night knowing her stupidity had ran over a biker?

I vote she gets shouted at and maybe that will make her think twice next time.

[dizzyblonde]

YC come back to me in ten years time when you've got kids and read your post prior to mine.....think you may feel a tad embarrassed....i know you better and you jest a lot about stuff like this, if its not this time, this sort of aggression etc to me is unacceptable.....I now bow out of the discussion gracefully before I give you a slap:-)

[yorkie_chris]

...that must be a nerve :-P

[dizzyblonde]

I'm a mother and a biker...............enough said

[chakraist]

I had a bloke pull out on an unlit 60mph road once, I saw him coming and avoided him by about an inch or two, my leg almost brushed his front headlight. At the traffic lights at the end of the road, I just stared at the ******* and he raised a hand to say sorry in a very embarrassed way, I think it scared the **** out of him but my first instinct was to get off the bike, drag him out of his car and beat him, literally just pound him into the ground- I guess that's my fight or flight instinct decided, but does anyone else feel the same way when this happens?

[Malfunctioning-eddie]

I guess that's my fight or flight instinct decided, but does anyone else feel the same way when this happens?

sometimes - although I'm quite often just so utterly baffled by some of the things drivers do on the road that I'm simply stunned speechless!

I remember one instance not too long ago - just outside of Thatcham on the A4 towards Newbury - the roads were fairly clear ahead and behind me, and about 200 yards away the lights changed to red at a busy junction. I knew the road well so knew it would be a while before they changed, rather than hoon up to the lights and stop suddenly - I eased up on the throttle and just let the bike roll up to the lights. All of a sudden, when I'm only about 20 or 30 yards from the still red lights and rolling at about 10mph, I heard an engine being tanked and a car comes screaming past me on the right and then pulls in in front of me just in front of the lights (yes, they were STILL red) - they had so little space they couldn't even pull in straight!

I was so completely gobsmacked by such a completely ****ing pointless maneuver that I was rooted to the spot

ps it was a mummy with kids in a mummymobile (4x4) - quelle surprise!

[Jasonr]

Appreciate that this is slightly off topic but

We had a great one a few years back a group of about 10-15 of us were on a ride out with the IAM. Speed limits were being observed throughout. A lady in a Merc then pulls out in front of leaders and proceeds to accelerate to approx 45 in a 30. At the nationals all 15 of us overtake as this lady is still doing 45 the next 30 comes along lady in merc catches up again and I would guess was still travelling about 45 mph. Eventually she catches up and is right up the back side of the tail end. Next national limit we all scarper. Next 30 limit this lady up tail end again and decides to do an overtake of all 15 bikes in a village type high street area. So she boots the merc there are left hand and right hand road turnings ahead and the inevitable happens, a car emerges lady in merc decides she is not going to make it and pulls in mid group. Did not worry that we are all staggered 2 a breast formation. Luckily we all saw it coming and all left a gap but my mate had to take avoiding action as he was almost pushed into the kerb. Next national comes along and we all overtake again needless to say a few kicks and words were aimed at the shiny merc.

To balance the argument I also had a gentleman decide to pull up next to me apply handbrake while car tyre is resting on my foot yep he parked on my foot! (ok it was a horrible snarl up around bow on the commute home it I have seen nothing like it but still)

[SoulKiss]

If you stuck an entire squadron of mod modded lambrettas to the side, they still wouldn't bother to look."

Thing is, if they took them out, would you be bothered?

[Balky001]

As for a bit of verbal abuse, it never killed anyone

maybe, but the reaction to it has. Just be careful, you never know what sort of nutter you are dealing with. It's fine until you find someone has just stuffed your titanium gloves up your **** :D

[Baph]

Doh! Doesn't that just make it worse for the next biker coming past i.e. no wing mirror at all? If anything you should stick another one on ;)
I said readjustment, not removal. Bending a mirror always gets noticed, and is easily rectified by the owner. :)

points lost for forgetting to claim your free wing mirror...
My boss just asked me why I was laughing. :(

[Balky001]

I said readjustment, not removal. Bending a mirror always gets noticed, and is easily rectified by the owner. :)
:(

Baph, that's pretty considerate in a weird and bendy way :D;)

[the_lone_wolf]

My boss just asked me why I was laughing. :(
then my job here is done;):smt024

[Lou M]

Tearing hair out: I don't care.

If you can't control your kids or at least ignore them then you shouldn't be on the road! Pull over, or muzzle them or something.

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I'm with you on this one, and I've been there, when little she sat in the back and kept quiet, if played up she got a good telling of when we got to our destination.
If your child is going to distract you then pull over.

Safety on the road comes first.

[Jools'SV Now]

It seems that dizzyblonde is saying and/or confirming that kids are a huge distraction and make driving dangerous.
more dangerous in fact than say; using a mobile phone.

perhaps they should be banned?
3points and a fine per child in car?
sound proof box in the back?
if they play up - make 'em walk!!!!!!

If driving with kids is so difficult - don't drive.
Driving whilst blind is difficult - so guess what? the blind don't do it!:smt095

ie if you know you're going to be a hazzard - why do it?

people have permission to drive not the right to - maybe that permission should be taken away more often.

for the record: no I don't have kids
& my mate was killed on the road riding his bike (pedal racing bike, wearing fluro clothing, in daylight) by a bloke chastising his kids on a dual carriageway.

[Baph]

I'm with you on this one, and I've been there, when little she sat in the back and kept quiet, if played up she got a good telling of when we got to our destination.
If your child is going to distract you then pull over.

Safety on the road comes first.
I'm slightly different when driving the car. if the kdis are acting up I'll tell them to pipe down.

If they don't listen, I find somewhere safe, and pull over. Engine off & I go for a walk. I'll come back when they've worked it out of their system. :)

[the_lone_wolf]

Driving whilst blind is difficult - so guess what? the blind don't do it!:smt095
you've obviously never been to the isle of wight then...;)

[SoulKiss]

Driving whilst blind is difficult - so guess what? the blind don't do it!:smt095

Oh yes they do

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5335802.stm

But it is recognised as Dangerous Driving :P

[454697819]

Steel plated toes on your boots ... if you see any cars round leeds with big gouges out of the door then watch out, they're retarded :-P


oh eck.. i wondered where that scratch came from

[yorkie_chris]

Thing is, if they took them out, would you be bothered?

I meant just stuck the scutters mirrors to it :-P

[dizzyblonde]

I'll re-enter this discussion to put this light upon my view....

maybe, but the reaction to it has. Just be careful, you never know what sort of nutter you are dealing with. It's fine until you find someone has just stuffed your titanium gloves up your **** :D

Exactly..not only that but constant chatting about walloping car drivers, shouting abuse and generally being a neanderthal **** paints a picture of the bike community as a whole in a very bad light......I will freely admit I will give any user of the road a hand signal consisting of the knobhead, w44nker,variety, if they are in the wrong. I have had so many near misses over the years I am quite paranoid these days...not only for deers, but BMW trying to collide in my lane, head on at warp speed, women with 'distracting' kids rear ending...alsorts, but I don't condone a violent solution...one day you'll get bit.

It seems that dizzyblonde is saying and/or confirming that kids are a huge distraction and make driving dangerous.
more dangerous in fact than say; using a mobile phone.

perhaps they should be banned?
3points and a fine per child in car?
sound proof box in the back?
if they play up - make 'em walk!!!!!!

If driving with kids is so difficult - don't drive.
Driving whilst blind is difficult - so guess what? the blind don't do it!:smt095

ie if you know you're going to be a hazzard - why do it?

people have permission to drive not the right to - maybe that permission should be taken away more often.

for the record: no I don't have kids
& my mate was killed on the road riding his bike (pedal racing bike, wearing fluro clothing, in daylight) by a bloke chastising his kids on a dual carriageway.


I don't drive, but my son is a good lad in the back of a car, he has learnt to be good, all parents should be the same, to teach them to behave. But kids are no more distracting than a mobile, a passenger next to you, your radio, your mates in the back etc etc.

What I haven't noticed in this discussion is any of you admitting when you have a lapse in concentration and cause another road user offense, just like someone I know on the motorway recently heading a group of bikes, they had a lapse of concentration and started veering into the car to the right of them...I didn't see said car driver ramming them off the road with a rage of violence.
Nor when you happen to not see that car coming towards you and you come out of a junction to near for comfort.....oooops.
At the end of the day there are too many cars and vehicles on the road these days, common courtesy and manners goes a long way........a lot better than aggression. And before you lot jump on the bandwaggon and slate me, I'm perfectly aware this post is written naively, but, I have values....something that is getting diluted more and more these days

[Scoobylou]

as a mum of 3 I am well used to my kids playing up... but thats what I have a stereo for. I used to have rangerover( and yes it went offroad too) but mostly used to tow track cars....

I think that there are bad drivers out there in all forms, some I think shouldnt be allowed in a mini let alone a 4x4. I once wrote off some guys car in my rangerover but he was trying to FORCE me over and there was a bus to my left hand side so I let him drive into my rear wheel.. He killed my alloy..

But seriously if your kids are going to make you not notice the road then you should pull over and chill a bit and calm them down. I have only ONCE nearly had a scooter rider off and thats because he came up my offside as I was turning left and indicating.. He got some right verbal off me...and my kids repeated it for weeks.. :D

[missyburd]

It cracks me up. When I go swimming, I hardly ever see anyone in the pool who can't swim. So why when I go out on the road, do I see so many people who can't drive?

Bit of an odd comparison :scratch: I am learning to swim and I go to a pool to do so, otherwise how will I learn properly without the practice needed? How will people learn to improve their driving skills without being out on real roads, there's only so much one can learn on a private car park....Not that I am condoning the woman's driving of the 4x4 at all, she sounds dangerous :rolleyes:

maybe, but the reaction to it has. Just be careful, you never know what sort of nutter you are dealing with. It's fine until you find someone has just stuffed your titanium gloves up your **** :D

Unfortunately I think that would have to happen before he stopped telling 'em what for, and he wouldn't go down willingly either :rolleyes: :lol:



IMHO kids should be seen and not heard in the back of the car, strapped in with a book or something to keep them occupied, they need to have it drilled into them from a very early age that the car is one place you do not mess about in [-(

[Steve_God]

points lost for forgetting to claim your free wing mirror...
LOL!!! :D
Better luck next time eh? ;) hehe

Ps. She didn't have kids in the back... or look distracted/lost in the slightest, which made it worse!

[Davido]

If someone cuts me up or causes me danger in any way, provided they give a hand signal or acknowledge the fact that they were in the wrong then I'm not about to jump off my bike and go beating in people's windows.

If after commiting said dangerous manouvere (sp) driver refuses to acknowledge my existence, we (me) are not a happy bunny and does something about it.


Short story:

There was an accident on a dual carriageway with traffic rolling about 5-10mph. I filter down the middle and see the traffic in the right lane start to merge with the left lane.

I see a transit ahead indicating to pull in so i slow up, at this point his passenger signals me to pass them (very blatant signal, couldn't possibly have meant anything else) and I slowly start to go round.

it is at this point transit man decides he doesn't want me to pass afterall and slams into the side of me, kocking me off in front of everyone.

Luckily I was on the stunt bike, so the crash cage took all the damage, and left a nice dent in his wing. I was fine as it was such a slow off and was ready to just pick the bike up and carry on.

I pull over to the side and the driver gets out and the very first thing he says to me...



"You shouldn't be coming on the inside"

At that point we had the red mist scenario going on, and a few choice words regarding idiot passengers, mirrors and blindness were said.

However afterwards as there was no damage (and I had been filtering and acted on a signal from someone other than the driver) we shook hands and went our seperate ways.

I'm not sure what the point of that story was, but I know I'm glad I shook the guys hand rather than punch him.