View Full Version : Green Lane ban?
Bluepete
30-04-08, 01:43 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article3842878.ece
Discuss.
gettin2dizzy
30-04-08, 01:51 PM
W4nkstains.
Here in the Peak District many lanes have got these new signs put up saying we are not allowed to ride them ....... but since when that has been the case I don't know .... one minute it was ok and the next minute the farmer was stopping us warning us that the police are using Enduros to follow people and then confiscate (spelling) their bikes. Life has become one long game of ' You cant do that ' It is driving me insane grrrrrrr
Gazza77
30-04-08, 02:14 PM
W4nkstains.
To play devil's advocate for a minute, whilst a blanket ban is out of order, perhaps, just perhaps, having somewhere for people to walk or ride without having motor vehicles causing noise and polution would be a good idea?
gettin2dizzy
30-04-08, 02:14 PM
I think it’s a shame that people take it upon themselves to prevent anyone from enjoying their hobbies, based upon their own inadequacies and nerurosisies.
The small number of ‘green laners’ who use a fraction of the available land for their sport are out to appreciate the countryside as much as any rambler. No country should be governed to the extent where the local people aren’t free to pursue their interests on public rights of way. It’s a sick example of how miserable we’re becoming as a nation and one factor in how our capitalist nation is progressively destroying life itself.
These sofa-complainers who have nothing to fill their lives with other than floral velour and doyleys, can shove their yappy Yorkshire terriers up their dysfunctional @rseholes.
gettin2dizzy
30-04-08, 02:16 PM
To play devil's advocate for a minute, whilst a blanket ban is out of order, perhaps, just perhaps, having somewhere for people to walk or ride without having motor vehicles causing noise and polution would be a good idea?
This is a story hyped out of all proportion. 98% of highways aren't available to motor vehicles, they're not terrorising anywhere.If the police came to stop me, they'd have to catch me first.
How can they justify the ?75,000 expense for this case?!
I think it?s a shame that people take it upon themselves to prevent anyone from enjoying their hobbies, based upon their own inadequacies and nerurosisies.
The small number of ?green laners? who use a fraction of the available land for their sport are out to appreciate the countryside as much as any rambler. No country should be governed to the extent where the local people aren?t free to pursue their interests on public rights of way. It?s a sick example of how miserable we?re becoming as a nation and one factor in how our capitalist nation is progressively destroying life itself.
These sofa-complainers who have nothing to fill their lives with other than floral velour and doyleys, can shove their yappy Yorkshire terriers up their dysfunctional @rseholes.
This is a superb post , I cant agree more. :notworthy::notworthy:
Gazza77
30-04-08, 02:21 PM
This is a story hyped out of all proportion. 98% of highways aren't available to motor vehicles, they're not terrorising anywhere.If the police came to stop me, they'd have to catch me first.
How can they justify the ?75,000 expense for this case?!
Where did I mention terrorising? ;)
Maybe it is hyped out of all proportion, but possibly you're reading the protection of "many parts of the countryside" to be more than it is too. The article does not quantify exactly how much green laning this could actually affect.
I was riding a legal green lane a few weeks ago. I wasnt riding fast, I was careful to stay on the route, I approached 2 female middle aged walkers, with their collie dog off the lead.
I slowed down, said good morning and one spoke to me, so I stopped. I realised she was busy telling me that I couldnt ride on here. She brought the worst out in me, I opened the throttle, and spun the back wheen past her and up the field, probably about 15 metres.
I am ashamed to say it DID damage part of the field and it DID cover her in mud ...... all something that wouldnt have happened had she just nodded good morning and allowed me to enjoy my Sunday. as I allowed her.
Well I'm sure you know then that that doesn't help our cause...
I certainly do, and I did say, and I genuinely mean, that I was ashamed of the damage done (well the field, not her brand new craghopper jacket ;))....... but these people take the pi$$ constantly with their ill informed opinions of where we are allowed to be
gettin2dizzy
30-04-08, 02:40 PM
Where did I mention terrorising? ;)
Maybe it is hyped out of all proportion, but possibly you're reading the protection of "many parts of the countryside" to be more than it is too. The article does not quantify exactly how much green laning this could actually affect.
By shutting one or two roads you're shutting access to the already tiny amount of countryside available to us by preventing any riding at all. Preventing people from riding on these few roads will result in :
1. Illegal riding everywhere
2. Concentrated riding on the few legal roads resulting in much greater damage.
I was riding a legal green lane a few weeks ago. I wasnt riding fast, I was careful to stay on the route, I approached 2 female middle aged walkers, with their collie dog off the lead.
I slowed down, said good morning and one spoke to me, so I stopped. I realised she was busy telling me that I couldnt ride on here. She brought the worst out in me, I opened the throttle, and spun the back wheen past her and up the field, probably about 15 metres.
I am ashamed to say it DID damage part of the field and it DID cover her in mud ...... all something that wouldnt have happened had she just nodded good morning and allowed me to enjoy my Sunday. as I allowed her.
'Damaging' a field is something I struggle to understand. What you can and can't do seems to depend entirely on the prerogative of the person who makes the rules.
gettin2dizzy
30-04-08, 02:42 PM
I certainly do, and I did say, and I genuinely mean, that I was ashamed of the damage done (well the field, not her brand new craghopper jacket ;))....... but these people take the pi$$ constantly with their ill informed opinions of where we are allowed to be
Next time just get off, and $hit on the ground in front of them. They're not exempt from the law either.
My only point being in all this is that I WAS being considerate and law abidding, but then they STILL had to pipe up! Grrrr
I would normally be able to be very nice and smile it off, but just this time I kicked up. It is not a regular loss of temper or respect, I promise;);)
On another point about all this, it seemed ironic that it was the actual FARMER warning us, and we were on his land! See they are not all bad!
Nuff said on my little experience :p
They should just put a banner up on the white cliffs of Dover saying
'BEWARE .... WE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO HAVE FUN IN THIS COUNTRY'
yorkie_chris
30-04-08, 02:59 PM
To play devil's advocate for a minute, whilst a blanket ban is out of order, perhaps, just perhaps, having somewhere for people to walk or ride without having motor vehicles causing noise and polution would be a good idea?
Footpaths, bridleways, right-to-roam land, pedestrian town centres...
The green-lanes are very few in number anyway
gettin2dizzy
30-04-08, 03:10 PM
If in the future there is an out-right ban (which I don't think there will be), I'll probably just continue to ride the old BOATS. It's not enforceable and it's not fair.
Just get good enough now that you can outrun them! An off-road police chase, now that sounds fun ;)
Bluepete
30-04-08, 03:37 PM
Just get good enough now that you can outrun them! An off-road police chase, now that sounds fun ;)
Be good, be VERY good. The lads who do this are all very experienced and get upset at people not stopping. It rarely goes well for the "subject being followed"
HTH! :D
yorkie_chris
30-04-08, 03:40 PM
Not many police off road bikes really is there though, seems that a ban just stretches them even further
Bluepete
30-04-08, 03:54 PM
Yep, agree with that Chris, there are less and less traffic cops in general these days. We have to loose 15 PC's by the 1st August and the motorcycle wing have no plans to take anyone on in the forseeable future.
Off road bike cops are even more rare.
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