View Full Version : Wwooooooooooo!!! Go Boris!!!
the_lone_wolf
02-05-08, 05:02 PM
Who else is watching?:cheers:
yeah sad i know:rolleyes:
Go Boris!!!
Go Boris!!!
Go Boris!!!
CoolGirl
02-05-08, 05:13 PM
Who else is watching?:cheers:
yeah sad i know:rolleyes:
shurrup - you won't have to live with the consequences! :eek:
Won't have to pay ?25 per day for Congestion charge!
the_lone_wolf
02-05-08, 05:19 PM
shurrup - you won't have to live with the consequences! :eek:
exactly, it'll be heeeeeelarious
BORIS, BORIS
HE'S OUR MAN
IF HE CAN'T DO IT
FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T RE-ELECT RED KEN
;)
Supervox
02-05-08, 05:50 PM
Debs - Ok I know I don't live in London, but surely Boris can't do any worse than Ken, can he ?
I'll just be interested to see if he keeps to his ideas about bikes being to use bus lanes & getting rid of the bendy buses etc !!
timwilky
02-05-08, 06:06 PM
What will Ken learn from Mugabe.
Wait for the recounts and beatings
chris8886
02-05-08, 06:18 PM
What will Ken learn from Mugabe.
Wait for the recounts and beatings
haha, that's good, it wouldn't surprise me either!
i'd like to see boris win just for a change, plus i'm starting to get annyoed with some of the stuff livingstone is doing to london.
northwind
02-05-08, 06:30 PM
These are not compelling reasons to vote for him though are they :smt085 I like Boris, I really do, I think his writing can be excellent, he's unafraid to speak his mind even when it's obvious to everyone else that he's talking absolute crap, and he's the only british politician I can remember who's ever admitted to changing his opinion on anything (in one of his books, he made a point of printing old articles right beside new ones on subjects where he'd had a change of heart, like the israel/palestine wall, for instance) He's also someone I'd like to have in government, not as a leading element but hanging around in the background being awkward.
I also like the way he's a lightning rod for complete tossers- reading the Guardian the other day, they'd put together a 4 page article on why Boris is evil, and just about every comment was a deliberate misquote (like his sarcastic Blair In Africa comments, quoted as if they were serious). It's good to have someone that'll draw these people out of cover.
But in a position of actual personal responsibility? No.
Flamin_Squirrel
02-05-08, 07:27 PM
These are not compelling reasons to vote for him though are they :smt085 I like Boris, I really do, I think his writing can be excellent, he's unafraid to speak his mind even when it's obvious to everyone else that he's talking absolute crap, and he's the only british politician I can remember who's ever admitted to changing his opinion on anything (in one of his books, he made a point of printing old articles right beside new ones on subjects where he'd had a change of heart, like the israel/palestine wall, for instance) He's also someone I'd like to have in government, not as a leading element but hanging around in the background being awkward.
I also like the way he's a lightning rod for complete tossers- reading the Guardian the other day, they'd put together a 4 page article on why Boris is evil, and just about every comment was a deliberate misquote (like his sarcastic Blair In Africa comments, quoted as if they were serious). It's good to have someone that'll draw these people out of cover.
But in a position of actual personal responsibility? No.
The questions is however, as is often the case in politics, is not who's best, but the least worst.
Do you honestly think he'd be worse than Ken?
getting rid of the bendy buses etc !!
TFL have recently bought some new ones, but I have it from a good souce that they will never buy any more, so its a matter of time till they break.
Ch00
northwind
02-05-08, 07:36 PM
Do you honestly think he'd be worse than Ken?
I haven't really had the first hand experience of ken to judge. But I think Boris could be very bad indeed.
Flamin_Squirrel
02-05-08, 08:08 PM
I haven't really had the first hand experience of ken to judge. But I think Boris could be very bad indeed.
:(
Certainly things can always be worse than you thought, but I'd be very disappointed if Boris was worse than a lunatic communist.
skidmarx
02-05-08, 08:12 PM
how very sad, at least ken was a humanitarian, now the selfish greedy
bufoons have the reigns of power. The congestion charge and bikes
in bus lanes is but a drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things. Boris is an ass, and the media are sitting pretty as they will have so much to write about now, possibly for years to come. I'm very disappointed in londoners. We should look out for us all not be divided by frivolous stuff like being able to ride in a bus lane ffs....
Flamin_Squirrel
02-05-08, 08:25 PM
how very sad, at least ken was a humanitarian
I gotta ask, what on earth makes you think that?
Fizzy Fish
02-05-08, 08:26 PM
it's depressing that they are the best that the parties could come up with to represent London. And it's even more depressing that from next week i will be in the service of whichever one wins! :lol:
However, having spent a whole day riding round town in traffic, looking longingly at empty bus lanes policed an army of cameras, i am starting to get warm fuzzy feelings about Boris getting in... :rolleyes:
Living nearly 200 miles away, it makes little if any difference to me who becomes Mayor.
But after the country, there can be no doubt that London is the most glittering jewel in the crown, a fantastic political prize.
I want to see Brown get a bloody nose. He said on the TV this evening that his job was to listen and learn - oh yeah, he's had 12 years to do that, he wasn't listening then and he isn't listening now. Leopards don't change their spots.
And I hope that there will be bloodletting, a leadership challenge, with the whole lot of em squabbling and alienating the voters even more.
northwind
02-05-08, 09:16 PM
Certainly things can always be worse than you thought, but I'd be very disappointed if Boris was worse than a lunatic communist.
What are the 5 worst things he did as mayor? Not talking here about GLC history, judge him by his recent actions.
Flamin_Squirrel
02-05-08, 09:36 PM
Congestion charging, low emissions zone are two things I disagree with - his general far left views. Just can't stand the guy, and he seems to have the economic nous of a bag of peanuts.
Nothing disastrous I s'pose - but then as I say, I don't see how Boris could do worse.
skidmarx
02-05-08, 10:20 PM
I gotta ask, what on earth makes you think that?
well as a London teacher in some very deprived schools for the last 18 I've been on the sharp end of many of kens initiatives to stand up for those who
have no voice, whilst the world has moved towards an evermore selfish and
materialistic world
He's done it. Well done Boris:cheers:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7380947.stm
MiniMatt
02-05-08, 11:52 PM
I'll say it again, at least Ken ran (as much as any politician does these days) on policy, and you could make your choice dependent on whether or not you agreed with that policy. Sian Berry had some well reasoned and argued policy statements too, again, regardless of whether you agreed with them, at least you knew what they were. Besides a couple of populist waffle points Boris ran on "personality", and his "personality" was shaking his foppish hair about, and saying "oops! crikey!".
Congratulations on voting in Tim, Nice But Dim. I suspect this will actually play out right into Labour's hands. Boris has now got two years to make a tit of himself and I suspect he'll do just that, the public school boy "golly gosh chaps!" act will cease to be funny pretty quickly and come the general election the Conservatives will once again have the image of baffoonery unfit for government.
For the record, I'm not pro-Labour or pro-Conservative right now, I'm pro-democracy. Democracy needs a strong opposition and policy based politics rather than personality based politics. I fear we have neither :(
Fact is London needed a change, Ken is so full of poop at times that it's scary. whoever thought that long and bendy buses are a good idea for narrow London roads?
I recon they can sell them to Abramovich, who can the start his own bus company in Moscow. NOW they have streets big enough for them there:p.
I'm waiting to see what will change:D. it would be nice to get the traffic moving:rolleyes:.
I voted Boris BTW. He can't do any worse then Ken:rolleyes:.
All politicians are full of $$hit anyway:rolleyes:
All politicians are full of $$hit anyway:rolleyes:ain't that the truth.
Sod all this thought, but the BNP have a seat on the london Assembly. Now that should be interesting!!
Right, im off down the hairdressers to 'get a boris' :lol:
Iansv II
03-05-08, 10:35 AM
London was always screwed either way....
Boris is bad news, glad I don't live in london
Flamin_Squirrel
03-05-08, 10:47 AM
I'll say it again, at least Ken ran (as much as any politician does these days) on policy, and you could make your choice dependent on whether or not you agreed with that policy. Sian Berry had some well reasoned and argued policy statements too, again, regardless of whether you agreed with them, at least you knew what they were. Besides a couple of populist waffle points Boris ran on "personality", and his "personality" was shaking his foppish hair about, and saying "oops! crikey!".
Congratulations on voting in Tim, Nice But Dim. I suspect this will actually play out right into Labour's hands. Boris has now got two years to make a tit of himself and I suspect he'll do just that, the public school boy "golly gosh chaps!" act will cease to be funny pretty quickly and come the general election the Conservatives will once again have the image of baffoonery unfit for government.
For the record, I'm not pro-Labour or pro-Conservative right now, I'm pro-democracy. Democracy needs a strong opposition and policy based politics rather than personality based politics. I fear we have neither :(
I've read articles written by Boris before and they seemed very intelligent. I'd certainly not call him stupid.
As for Kens policies, I don't even see the point in considering what his plans were. He's had 8 years to make a difference and I for one can't think of anything that he's done thats had a positive effect on the majority if people living in London.
Perhaps Boris will be bad, perhaps he won't. I certainly think he deserves a chance before we judge him though.
evermore selfish and
materialistic world
Don't you think that's been happening in London and country wide anyway, despite having a socialist government and London mayor for the past decade?
TFL have recently bought some new ones, but I have it from a good souce that they will never buy any more, so its a matter of time till they break.
Ch00
How long did the Routemasters stay in service? 100 years?
Bring them back!!!
Routemasters didnt as far as I know burst into flames whilst on the move.
Ch00
Iansv II, you beat Viney to the hairdressers;)
northwind
03-05-08, 12:06 PM
How long did the Routemasters stay in service? 100 years?
Bring them back!!!
Routemasters were s**t, the only people who liked them hadn't been on modern buses I reckon. The bendy buses were rubbish too of course, that was just mad, but ordinary modern buses do the same job the routemasters did, faster and with more people on. Come to edinburgh and have a go on the LRT fleet to see what a bus service looks like...
Fizzy Fish
03-05-08, 12:25 PM
Routemasters were s**t, the only people who liked them hadn't been on modern buses I reckon. The bendy buses were rubbish too of course, that was just mad, but ordinary modern buses do the same job the routemasters did, faster and with more people on. Come to edinburgh and have a go on the LRT fleet to see what a bus service looks like...
Routemasters had their pros but they also had their cons - grumpy conductors, cold and draughty, hard to move around on while on the move, esp if you had a load of shopping or were elderly, etc. as northy alludes to, nostalgia has a habit of being rose tinted...
from a bus users perspective I really like bendy buses (nicer than double deckers IMO), and from a riding perspective i can work around them - their existance doesn't really bother me tbh. i think while there are a few genuine issues on certain routes/roads, the press just wanted something to get their teeth stuck into on a dull news day. I think I'm right in saying Boris will be scrapping them. To do that immediately is gonna cost a lot of money, which IMO could be better spent elsewhere :rolleyes:
and yes, after all is said & done London does have a pretty good bus service. now whether that was Ken's legacy is another matter - he would like to think so, and he has supported the investment - but many would say some of the key improvements were planned and being implemented before he came along ;)
timwilky
03-05-08, 01:46 PM
Give Boris time to prove himself.
Transport Policies. Well London has always been a law unto itself. We live in hope of buses that run after 10:30pm or before 9am. National transport policy has always been made by individuals who think the whole country has the infrastructure London has.
Although I do hope he quickly implements the ride in bus lanes and the rest of the country then follows. BTW, what is a bus lane?. We don't have them round here. Then again we don't have buses
yorkie_chris
03-05-08, 01:55 PM
complete tossers- the Guardian
And I hope that there will be bloodletting, a leadership challenge,
Is this going to be weapons restricted, or can I bring me axe? Does the head need to be safety wired for scrutineering? :-P
Congestion charging, low emissions zone are two things I disagree with - his general far left views. Just can't stand the guy, and he seems to have the economic nous of a bag of peanuts.
Nothing disastrous I s'pose - but then as I say, I don't see how Boris could do worse.
I don't really see how a drunk spacker could do worse, at least that would be random rather than malicious :-P
Warthog
03-05-08, 05:35 PM
Hmm, people seem to think he has never been in charge of anything before! I has been MP for Henley for a long time and they seem to like him. Anyway, you can't argue with his policy on bike (bicycle) theft:
"put decoy bicycles throughout Islington and send Navy Seals in through the windows of thieves."
:lol:
GO BORIS!
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