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Why is it sooooo damn hard?
I have been with my current employer for 2 years now, but I'm now incredibly bored and often find myself on the internet like on this forum which will inevitably get me in trouble sooner or later.
The good things of this job are.....
Prospects are good, could be a director in 4 years.
Experience is good.
Company car.
Just got a 21% pay rise.
Some of the people are OK.
They have served me well and added very good things to my CV.
The bad things are.....
I'm bored beyond belief.
I could get a better company car.
I could get more money.
The boss is expanding quick and employing complete idiots as we are desperate, and they make us all look stupid and drag us all down.
There is no one my own age (everyone 40+, some of the recent new starter have been 60+ we are that desperate) or with even remotely the same interests.
The problem is I just cant get myself together for the fear that the grass is not always greener. The people that come for interviews here are complete retards yet they are doing jobs more senior than me, so the competition at job interviews would be crap.
But in some respect I feel the need to be loyal :( I know that leaving would stich the business up abit and **** a few people off considerably.
I didnt apply for a job with the Coal Authority the other day that is on my door step and I could have done very well in the interview and the role is no different to what i do now.....I have just found another one that is equally perfect, but abit further away, yet I cant bring myself to actually apply, for that same old fear that the grass isnt always as green as it looks once you have swam across the river :(
Such a tough decision and not easy to do.........I really dont know what to do.
But in some respect I feel the need to be loyal :( I know that leaving would stich the business up abit and **** a few people off considerably.
I'm sort of similar to you, but I have no quarms about telling an employer where to shove it. It wasn't that long ago I took 4 months off work completely. I was bored, so quit, took 4 months off, then found work again when money started to run low.
I think you need to work out why you feel so endebted to the people you work with/for. Afterall, it's business. You're there to work, not to make friends.
_Stretchie_
08-05-08, 03:03 PM
I'm sort of similar to you, but I have no quarms about telling an employer where to shove it. It wasn't that long ago I took 4 months off work completely. I was bored, so quit, took 4 months off, then found work again when money started to run low.
I think you need to work out why you feel so endebted to the people you work with/for. Afterall, it's business. You're there to work, not to make friends.
That could be your shortest post ever Baph ha haa
;)
I think you need to work out why you feel so endebted to the people you work with/for. Afterall, it's business. You're there to work, not to make friends.
I think its because they helped my career develope so quickly and provided me with a fair bit of very good experience.
But things have gone down hill recently throughout the company, not just my particular business unit.
Another major problem is they are offering good money to attract new people, but the new people are rubbish. So they are coming in on better money than existing people, and then most existing people (not me) have just been told they arnt getting payrises as we lost a big contract.The atmosphere is just horrible and has been for months now.
Why is it sooooo damn hard?
I have been with my current employer for 2 years now, but I'm now incredibly bored and often find myself on the internet like on this forum which will inevitably get me in trouble sooner or later.
I used to feel like that, so I retired.
Flamin_Squirrel
08-05-08, 03:18 PM
What's your boss like? Talk to them maybe?
What's your boss like? Talk to them maybe?
He is a very dry sense of humored bloke, his office is off the main office and he always used to have the door open and you could talk openly to him and have a bit of banter.
Now the door is always shut, Partly because he has employed a bloke who NEVER shuts up (but we have to put up with it), and partly because he is sick of listening to people who are unhappy with the way things are going and try to talk to him about it :(.
He takes everything personally.......He employeed someone from the local authority who was crap and used to doing no work as they worked for the council......So they came here and couldnt cope with the workload and left after 3 days. Its been going down hill from then onwards.
I think its because they helped my career develope so quickly and provided me with a fair bit of very good experience.
But things have gone down hill recently throughout the company, not just my particular business unit.
Another major problem is they are offering good money to attract new people, but the new people are rubbish. So they are coming in on better money than existing people, and then most existing people (not me) have just been told they arnt getting payrises as we lost a big contract.The atmosphere is just horrible and has been for months now.
The words, "rat, ship, sinking, jump" come to mind.
Stretchie, see the "defragging RAID volumes" thread. :)
_Stretchie_
08-05-08, 03:50 PM
The words, "rat, ship, sinking, jump" come to mind.
Stretchie, see the "defragging RAID volumes" thread. :)
:salut:
Flamin_Squirrel
08-05-08, 03:57 PM
He is a very dry sense of humored bloke, his office is off the main office and he always used to have the door open and you could talk openly to him and have a bit of banter.
Now the door is always shut, Partly because he has employed a bloke who NEVER shuts up (but we have to put up with it), and partly because he is sick of listening to people who are unhappy with the way things are going and try to talk to him about it :(.
He takes everything personally.......He employeed someone from the local authority who was crap and used to doing no work as they worked for the council......So they came here and couldnt cope with the workload and left after 3 days. Its been going down hill from then onwards.
Time to leave then. You're not happy and you're not going to get it resolved. Moving jobs is a gamble, yes, but if you stay you're garunteed it'll never improve.
Graeme,
Perhaps the grass is greener on the other side? You'll never know till you explore.
If you find it isn't, you may have to eat humble pie and return to your current job. Sounds like your boss would be desperate enough to re employ you?
try developing somthing in your spare time. set up a small business or even just chat the ladies up by emials???
Ask for a 50% pay increase an audi tt sports company car and a mahognay desk with a full size pinball table and atari arcade machine in the office.
You wont be bored then!!!!!......(my dream job)
Graeme what is it you do?
Wayluya
08-05-08, 09:34 PM
When you say "boss"........is this a local office?, head office?, the only office?! and does he who own the Company? If their is a Head Office, yer need the Chairman or a Director (even if listed), otherwise yer need the owner / principal shareholder.............
Cos' bearing in mind you are borderline leaving anyway and seem confident in lining something else up why not take a "sh#t or bust" approach to the "BIG boss" with a written report stating how things are at the company, what is not working and why and projections as to how things will go if things carry on as they are (employing morons in crucial positions = lost business = big clearout (including of Bosses) or closure......yer don't need an MA in Rocket Science to see all that coming down the pipe.....a furough so often plowed :salut:)..........AND presenting a plan to sort things out, with projections for the future......obviously you will be a major player in this plan ;).....depending on timescale / amounts involved I would try and get performance related bonuses for yourself.......tell him that unless he takes onboard that the Status Quo is not an option and can show you changes (for the better!) that you know are needed in very short order (even if he does not follow your exact plan - give you everything yer want / dream about!).......that otherwise you will be leaving because you are not going down with the sinking ship.
Remember that where there is Chaos their is often opportunity.....not always, but often enuf........
However, unfortunately some folk can only see the Abyss.......once they hit the bottom, simply because it is too scary to contemplate :salut::salut:
Remember that you can apply for other jobs to test the water. Even if you get offered the job, you don't have to take it. Either way, the interview practice will be useful for you.
Regarding loyalty, I also found it hard to leave my first real job, but when I eventually did, it made me realise just how misplaced my loyalty was. (Second job change was much easier!) Ultimately you are employed to add value to the company bottom line, and should be rewarded appropriately for what you do. If the balance isn't right then you should feel no guilt about trying to change it.
Wayluya
08-05-08, 10:43 PM
Ultimately you are employed to add value to the company bottom line, and should be rewarded appropriately for what you do. If the balance isn't right then you should feel no guilt about trying to change it.
Loyalty WAS a two way street..........one side of that dissapeared longgggggggggg ago, if it ever really existed in business.
When you say "boss"........is this a local office?, head office?, the only office?! and does he who own the Company? If their is a Head Office, yer need the Chairman or a Director (even if listed), otherwise yer need the owner / principal shareholder.............
Boss....the person I report directly to is the managing director. It is a local office to be fair, but we have about 30 offices in the UK and loads internationaly so prospects are long term quite interesting, most of the parnters and directors are based in my office though.
I have had it out with them once when I got headhunted by another large competitor, which is the reason I got the 21% payrise. But even then in reality my pay is not inline with what I could get elsewhere.
There is 2 other guys in my office who feel exactly the same way, and worse, as they didnt get payrises so it will be interesting to see what happends at the end of the month. It was dicussed about starting up on our own in jest, but that really could work however is unlikely due to their age and commitments/not wanting to take risks:(.
As it stands at the moment I spent an hour last night updating my CV which I'm definately going to be sending off....something has given me a kick in the **** and I actually got abit excited about it last night :smt035:smt110. Change is needed.
CV is now 100% and has been sent off to a job I'm particularly interested in. :D Feel loads better already.
I accidently stirred the big wooden spoon at work today. I came across an advert with a recruitment consultancy which looked remarkably like it had been written by my work.
The pay they were offering for a very intermediate role was a fair bit more than I get and about the same as what the executives doing my role get.....they were not happy. :smt054
CV is now 100% and has been sent off to a job I'm particularly interested in. :D Feel loads better already.
I accidently stirred the big wooden spoon at work today. I came across an advert with a recruitment consultancy which looked remarkably like it had been written by my work.
The pay they were offering for a very intermediate role was a fair bit more than I get and about the same as what the executives doing my role get.....they were not happy. :smt054
kepp it stirring mate.! they may give u more money
kepp it stirring mate.! they may give u more money
I stirred and got a 21% payrise recently.....I honestly dont think another payrise would make me feel any better.....the money isnt a major factor, i dont enjoy working here and the atmosphere is horrible and getting worse.
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