Slow??

[SV PILOT]

Hey everyone! I went out on a little play about with my girlfriends step-dad. He has a Ducati 916 and I have the trusty SV 650 S. I felt SO slow. I'm not that fast anyway as I don't lean heaps. He reckoned that the SV should have kept up a lot better and I agree but surely it wouldn't beat the Ducati?? Any thoughts??
Cheers,
Dustin.

[yorkie_chris]

Ahhhh yes, it's probably the squishy bit in the middle thats leading to the problem there ;-)

[Woz]

You're never going to beat it for pure power. My mate rides a 748 and when he decides it's 'playtime' I can't stick with him at all.

If he's pushing you to keep up with him, beyond where you feel in control, stop riding with him now. He should respect your limits because if you do try to keep up it will probably end in tears... and pain... and surgery etc etc.

[SV PILOT]

Aye, he has been riding about 30 odd years! He was trying to say he is slow but he was on a faster bike and about 30 yrs experience on me. Fair enough he absolutely dusted me but to be expected? +1 to staying in control.(comfortably). I'm not writing myself off over a bike.(Even though I love them, I love my life better). I think I do have a little problem with trusting my tyres. Anyone else have this problem?

[dizzyblonde]

Tyres are like shoes, if you find em uncomfortable get rid. I have tyres on my two that i trust, and they are so confidence inspiring. Just got in tonight from a ride out with im Indoors and even he noticed how well I'm doing( although the new suspension has something to do with it too)

[philbut]

Faster bike plus 30 years experience. If he wasn't quicker than you then he should be looking carefully at his riding. Just take it at your own pace. are your tyres squared off or coming up for renewal? If so, chances are that is what is taking away your confidence. Good tyres make a world of difference. My SV feels twitchy round corners at the mo, and I'm pretty sure it's bacause my back tyre is sh*gged. Give yourself a chance and get some decent rubber fitted. It's maybe not a great idea to ride with people who are much faster unless they are prepared to chill out a bit - as people have said already, it's very easy to come unstuck playing the catchup game! Maybe you should lead and he could give you a few pointers, that way you won't be pushing to keep up with him.

[ThEGr33k]

TBH it depends on the roads. I mean if they are streight or long sweeping corners then no you wont have a chance due to power but if they are on heavy breaking and throw it in like a mentalist roads then yes you do have a chance.

TBH he sounds like a bit of a Nob to me from what you say... Wonder if he gets off on making you feel small?



No offence like i dont know the guy.

[yorkie_chris]

Yeah sounds about right.

Tell you what, try the same thing again when it's raining, then the motto can be "it's not about how fast you can go, it's if you get there" :-D

[ThEGr33k]

Yeah sounds about right.

Tell you what, try the same thing again when it's raining, then the motto can be "it's not about how fast you can go, it's if you get there" :-D

Indeed. :rolleyes: LMAO Just out of interest how many miles does he do a year?

**Not a hit at those who dont do many miles its just if he dont do many then give it some time and youll ride rings around him... as with out constant praccy the only thing youll be fast at is going in a stright line. :p**

[petevtwin650]

Some good advice there.

Depends on how he said his demoralising statement, but it sounds pretty poor to me in black and white.:mad:

Sounds a better idea to let him follow you and give you pointers, although just cos he's got 30 years experience doesn't mean he knows it all, or any of it.;)

[Alpinestarhero]

You justneed some more time to understand riding in order to keep up; however, you're always gonna have to push comparitivly harder. Don't ride faster than you feel comfortable; make your mate(s) wait for you down the road! I do.

Matt

[the_lone_wolf]

The more i ride, the more i realise that going fast is OK, but gets a bit boring after a while, not to mention the likelihood of having the fuzz take your license off you in this obsessed culture about speeding. oh, and the obvious downsides to coming off at high speeds. you can have way more fun without topping the ton at every opportunity, you just need to find the right roads and the right bike (added bonus, the right roads will very rarely have any coppers on them). It's all about the corners:smt035

[Griffo]

I've yet to top 70mph - though I have only been doing my DAS so that is kind of expected I suppose! - but having great fun on the sweeping bends etc, love the lean!

[Biker Biggles]

The Duke 916 is a totally different class of bike and should eat an sv for breakfast.More power and a race bred chassis with top quality suspension all round.Dont worry about it and most important,always ride your own ride and sod what anyone else does.

[Blue_SV650S]

I think he was probably trying to say that although he does have a bike advantage, you could have pulled your finger out a bit more than you did, nothing more, nothing less. ;)

I don't know how slow you were going, but it might have been frustratingly slow. To my mind as long as a rider is keeping to the speed limits (when safe) then why grumble ... if they were doing say max 30 in a NSL, then it'd get a bit tedious ;) But if he was doing a ton plus everywhere and you were doing the speed limits (or there abouts) it's his problem, not yours ;)

[yorkie_chris]

Yup that's about my take on it.

give it a couple of months and get a few thousand miles under your belt and you'll be able to stick with the guys who do 100 miles a year on supersports bikes no problem ;-)

[sv-robo]

TBH it depends on the roads. I mean if they are streight or long sweeping corners then no you wont have a chance due to power but if they are on heavy breaking and throw it in like a mentalist roads then yes you do have a chance.

.
+1
Beaten many so called superbikes that have ever bothered to race on country twisties especially the gisburn to settle road.

Extra power means sod all if....
A,you donn,t know how to use it(and i find this applies to many a superbike power-ranger)

B,simply to scared to use it except on straights.

[ThEGr33k]

+1
Beaten many so called superbikes that have ever bothered to race on country twisties especially the gisburn to settle road.

Extra power means sod all if....
A,you donn,t know how to use it(and i find this applies to many a superbike power-ranger)

B,simply to scared to use it except on straights.

Also when I went out with the SV crew over some North yorkshire roads they were so bumpy and with quite a few hills that it ment I couldnt use much power or id spend all day on the back wheel Wasnt nice. :mad: Was difficult to keep up with the SV's on that road (was liturally the 2nd worse surfaced road ive EVER been on :() as their softer power and suspension made it a lot better for them... That my excuse anyway :p

[sv-robo]

Also when I went out with the SV crew over some North yorkshire roads they were so bumpy and with quite a few hills that it ment I couldnt use much power or id spend all day on the back wheel Wasnt nice. :mad: Was difficult to keep up with the SV's on that road (was liturally the 2nd worse surfaced road ive EVER been on :() as their softer power and suspension made it a lot better for them... That my excuse anyway :p
:roll::lol:

[ThEGr33k]

:roll::lol:

:mrgreen:

Honestly there was so much salt and it was wet. I either had wheel spin or the front wheel up with the bumps... I got over taken by one of the guys cos my wheel just spun LOL. Was fun... But I prefer nice surfaces tbh. :cool:

[chakraist]

On the way back from the Hastings rally I was with a chap on an SV and a bloke on an R6, couldn't keep up at all! I have since adjusted my suspension and altering rebound has given me about 8000% more confidence, approximately. There's no real way he could have expected you to keep up. When it comes to trusting tyres, I reckon if you'd been over the roads 3 or 4 times before you went out you'd have more confidence. There are many times when I slow down way too much for a corner and then nail the throttle all the way through and think 'why was I going that slow?'

It's all about confidence really, you probably have a lot more riding ability than you think you do, it might just take one thing to make you realise it. I get especially nervous on left handers as I'm constantly afraid of running wide onto the other side of the road as I did this once before. Consequently I have about 1cm strip on the right hand side and about an inch on the left of the tyre. Reading a twist of the wrist 2 helped out a fair bit by making me try and analyse my riding.