Indicator Problem

[Side MS]

Attempted to fit replacement rear indicators to my Sv650 sport k8 today. Bought some indicator leads form Hein Gericke which seemed a lot easier then cutting and soldering or crimping. (I no its lazy).

I connected one of the rear indicators to make sure it was working. But when I turned my datatool off I herd a pop and the indicators didnt flash like they do when I turn the alarm off. I turned the ignititon key the lightings came on however nothing came up on the instrument panel and the bike wouldnt start.

It turns out the fuse labelled fuel in fuse box had blown. I replaced the fuse and attached the standard indicator and everything was fine. I then tried again and the same happened.

Anybody know why this happened. The replacement indicators are 21w buld indicator type from J&S.

Thoughts appreciated.:confused:

[arenalife]

My guess is you've reversed the polarity to the indicator from the bike and when the alarm is trying to flash it it's going straight to earth and popping the fuse.

[Side MS]

How can I prevent that from happening

[kwak zzr]

My guess is you've reversed the polarity to the indicator from the bike and when the alarm is trying to flash it it's going straight to earth and popping the fuse.

the indicator should work both ways round shouldnt it?

[thefallenangel]

the indicator should work both ways round shouldnt it?

nope. It won't. Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't Black + white ground on the bike with Black being live.

With my mini-indys i just connector blocked then with 5a connectors and black insulation tape and hid them as best i could under pillion seat. Not difficult just means if you want to go back to normal you'll have to do the same.

Funny that electrics on a 3.3kv motor are a damn site simpler than on a little motorbike with a 12v supply.

check you've connected it up correctly (silly thing but can be easily done on cables this small and fiddly.)

[kwak zzr]

i thought live and earth to a bulb would light it no matter what way round, but i am a divvy when it comes to electrics.

[Side MS]

The indicator leads and the indicators are connected with the black + white wire connecting the black + white wire of the bike and the black wire for the leads and indicators connecting to the black wire of the bike. Not sure what other way of connecting them. I could do it the other way round on purpose but thought it was pretty unlikely that the wiring in the new indicators was back to front.

Really confused here. Have now gone through 5 10amp fuses. Help.

[thefallenangel]

do the normal ones pop the fuses?

[Side MS]

No this is the thing. All im doing is simply unplugging the standard indicator lead which connects into the bikes main wiring system beneath the seat (the little grey connector beneath the pillion seat). Then connecting the new indicator leads which connect into the exisitng connector one end and the bullet type connectors the opposite end for the new indicator.

The datatool resets itself so in order to test the indicator i turned the alarm off but it goes pop. Even before i turn the ignition on. The thing is if i put the standard ones back on the indicators work fine however the bike wont start coz of the fuse for the fuel system being blown. If any fuse would be blown i thought it would be the one for the indicators. Am i just being thick.

[thefallenangel]

when did you have the datatool put in? Have you moved anything which could of snagged a cable somewhere and caused it to earth to the frame?

[Side MS]

The datatool was put on when I first bought the bike. Never had a problem until fitting the new smaller indicators. I did have a look for that but cant find anything the only way i could have done something was knocking the wires under the pillion seat. But the originals are still fine. I've the standard ones back on and there after changing the fuse of course everything works fine. Just doesn;t make sense.

[thefallenangel]

got a funny feeling if you search the boards something on a resistor needing to be placed across the indy comes to mind.

[Side MS]

I have had a look at that thought the resistors were only really needed for LED indicators. Coz mine are bulds and are 21w thought there wouldn't be any need for it. I mite get a couple of in line resistors which can be clipped straight in. Im no thinking there could be fault with the indicator unit they were only a tenner for the pair.

[thefallenangel]

check with where you bought them from.Mine were £15 for reflective ones and slotted straight on.

[Side MS]

Will do. Thanks for your thoughts. When you say they slotted staright on did they not have the 2 bullet type connected.

[thefallenangel]

well i cut the original connections and ripped the bullets off and 5a connector blocked them.

[Side MS]

Oh rite i follow you. Alrite then back to the drawing board. Any other thoughts appreciatted.

[thefallenangel]

take the indies back and explain and see what they say.

[kwak zzr]

resistors arnt needed with 21w bulbs, the indy wiring sounds like its wired faulty to me and both connections inside the unit are touching hence blowing the fuse.

[thefallenangel]

resistors arnt needed with 21w bulbs, the indy wiring sounds like its wired faulty to me and both connections inside the unit are touching hence blowing the fuse.


i thought that because resis are for slowly down the flash rate. Well i can't say anymore as i can't see whats happening.

[Side MS]

Think your right will take them back down the shop and see what they say. Out of interest what is the wattage for the standard indicators thought they were 21w as well.

I thought i would go for the simplest way to change the indicators that will teach my for thinking it will be a five minute job.

[Side MS]

Ignore that just checked the book they are 21w as well. Gotta be the dodgy indy's.

[kwak zzr]

gotta be i'd say.

[Side MS]

Cheers guys.