Can I

[timwilky]

Park behind a scamera van and open my tailgate so that it obscures his line of sight.

Assuming it is a public highway, with no parking restrictions. Do I not have the right to park there. It is not my fault he cannot see out the back of his van, whilst I try to find the cause of the annoying rattling sound from within my boot area. It may be something dangerous and I would hate to have a breakdown/accident because of that strange noise from the back of my car.

[the_lone_wolf]

try it and see

i'll visit you at armley...

[Luckypants]

Some guys I know did this with large vans whilst on exercise. It was a public parking place, a lay by. He had just enough room to get out, they parked tight to him either side. Nothing has ever been said and it was one of Brunstrum's talivan.

[neio79]

nothing they can do as far as i can see, you are parking legally and leaving plenty of room for him to move.

[timwilky]

Why then should he say I was perverting the course of justice.

[arenalife]

I'm not so sure, they might have you for interfering with a police officer doing their duties or some such as a motorist was in South Wales after driving up and down a road at 30 to prevent road users being caught by a hidden camera, even though he was legal and licensed etc.

[neio79]

Why then should he say I was perverting the course of justice.

To scare you. you should have said ok orificer, arrest me , lets go down the station and waste your day and mine while my soliciter tell you to stop being a **** and let me go for doing nothing wrong.

then when i am released without charge, you can not get home to your wife because you have the paperwork to fil in , see if he was so keen then.

He was trying to scare you. If you had got out a sign warning others then yes he could have done you, otherwise he knew full well there is nothing he can do.

[Blue_SV650S]

To scare you. you should have said ok orificer, arrest me , lets go down the station and waste your day and mine while my soliciter tell you to stop being a **** and let me go for doing nothing wrong.

then when i am released without charge, you can not get home to your wife because you have the paperwork to fil in , see if he was so keen then.

He was trying to scare you. If you had got out a sign warning others then yes he could have done you, otherwise he knew full well there is nothing he can do.

You haven't had much dealings with coppers have you ;)

[neio79]

You haven't had much dealings with coppers have you ;)


yes, i sleep with the enemy every night LOL ;)

But seriosly am confident enough to know they cant / wont do anything as they know they will end up with egg on their face. And yes i am more than happy to sit in an interview room knowing that ill be out soon while they spend the day tied up in paper work!!

Why do you think you have to push a copper so far to get arrested, they dont like the red tape that goes with an arest!!

As long as you remain calm and polite they get wound up, its greatto watch especially if they know there is nothing they can really do, as in the case above.

The perverting the course of justice would not stick anymore than jelly to the ceeling in that case. Its a public layby you can stop there if you want, the CPS would not even bother processing it.

[Luckypants]

Why then should he say I was perverting the course of justice.

IMHO to scare you, because if you were legally parked and were looking for something in your boot you have done nothing wrong. Some coppers seem to think the uniform gives them the right act like they are rulers of the universe.

A better course of action would have been to give you 5 minutes, then check everything was OK (e.g. you were not having an asthma attack and looking for your inhaler) - he would have found out what you were doing and could have just taken a break for 10-15 minutes while you sorted out your problem.

After that it might have been construed that your reason for being there was to frustrate him in his pursuit of revenue generation (oops enforcement) and give a hint to move on. Threatening folks with the law at every turn makes the cops look like a bunch petulant school boys.

[Blue_SV650S]

yes, i sleep with the enemy every night LOL ;)

But seriosly am confident enough to know they cant / wont do anything as they know they will end up with egg on their face. And yes i am more than happy to sit in an interview room knowing that ill be out soon while they spend the day tied up in paper work!!

Why do you think you have to push a copper so far to get arrested, they dont like the red tape that goes with an arest!!

As long as you remain calm and polite they get wound up, its greatto watch especially if they know there is nothing they can really do, as in the case above.

The perverting the course of justice would not stick anymore than jelly to the ceeling in that case. Its a public layby you can stop there if you want, the CPS would not even bother processing it.

In my experience, a copper won't take any lip ... and why should they!! .. at the end of the day, all this paperwork they are filling in, they get paid to do that ... you have to waste 6hrs down the police station ... and you can rest assured they will process you slowly if you have made an @ss of yourself!! ;) .. admittedly, I haven't had that many interfaces with the pigs, but every time they have wanted to rip me a new one :( (motoring offences only I might add, I hven't been out beating up grannies or selling drugs!!).

[Luckypants]

admittedly, I haven't had that many interfaces with the pigs, but every time they have wanted to rip me a new one :( (motoring offences only I might add, I hven't been out beating up grannies or selling drugs!!).

Attitude is everything! ;)

[timwilky]

Not even a copper, one of their civilian scamera van operators. Safety partnership people

[neio79]

In my experience, a copper won't take any lip ... and why should they!! .. at the end of the day, all this paperwork they are filling in, they get paid to do that ... you have to waste 6hrs down the police station ... and you can rest assured they will process you slowly if you have made an @ss of yourself!! ;) .. admittedly, I haven't had that many interfaces with the pigs, but every time they have wanted to rip me a new one :( (motoring offences only I might add, I hven't been out beating up grannies or selling drugs!!).

I did not say be lippy to them did I, I said stand there and be polite keep calm and they get frustrated as they know you are not doing anything wrong.

They cant force you to leave a public place unless you are causing a disturbacce to the public, its all about knowing what rights you have and what rights they don’t have my friend. They hate it trust me!!!

[Blue_SV650S]

Attitude is everything! ;)

I have always been polite and answer any questions directly, but slightly nonchalant about what they have to say as I don't want to hear the bollox that comes out.

Just pull me, tell me what I have done wrong and then book me or let me go. Don't give me a friggin lecture like I am 5 years old and you are 'better' than me!! Who do you think you are you w4nkers ... do your job (book me if you are gonna) then feck off!! :rambo:

[squirrel_hunter]

I asked the guy who ran Bristol 'Safety' Camera Partnership the same question a couple of years back. His response was that it was perfectly fine to do to the point of him encouraging me to do it. After all he said they're not coppers, they're civilians. At most they will try and tell you you're breaking the law and all that but if you persist they'll just give up and move on.

However as a disclaimer, I've not done this one. I'm not a lawyer its up to you to make your own decision, your old enough, don't blame me... But photos please!

[neio79]

I asked the guy who ran Bristol 'Safety' Camera Partnership the same question a couple of years back. His response was that it was perfectly fine to do to the point of him encouraging me to do it. After all he said they're not coppers, they're civilians. At most they will try and tell you you're breaking the law and all that but if you persist they'll just give up and move on.

However as a disclaimer, I've not done this one. I'm not a lawyer its up to you to make your own decision, your old enough, don't blame me... But photos please!


A new thread i feel, you and your car blocking a camera van!! :D

[mattSV]

Park behind a scamera van and open my tailgate so that it obscures his line of sight.

Assuming it is a public highway, with no parking restrictions. Do I not have the right to park there. It is not my fault he cannot see out the back of his van, whilst I try to find the cause of the annoying rattling sound from within my boot area. It may be something dangerous and I would hate to have a breakdown/accident because of that strange noise from the back of my car.

I guess we are not talking 'hypohtetically' here then ;):p:p:thumright::smt038

[timwilky]

No we are not. But I did move on when he started to get stroppy

[Biker Biggles]

My take on it is that you are entitled to park where you like if legal,but could be done for obstruction if you didnt move on when told to do so by a copper.You might get done for stalking if the scamera van moved and you followed it.