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Well, after a £17.30 fill up this morning (118.9p), i have done the math, and if petrol gets to the £1.30pL mark, then it will be cheaper to get the train into work. Technically its cheaper now if i take tax, insurance and maintaince into account.
A sad day where they win and we lose.
So, at what point would it be financailly not viable to ride to work and get on the sardine express?
A grey day in the life of commuting
Bluepete
30-05-08, 08:19 AM
Shifts and house - work locations would make it impossible to commute. Just drive/ride really slllowwwwww...
SoulKiss
30-05-08, 08:19 AM
Well, after a £17.30 fill up this morning (118.9p), i have done the math, and if petrol gets to the £1.30pL mark, then it will be cheaper to get the train into work. Technically its cheaper now if i take tax, insurance and maintaince into account.
A sad day where they win and we lose.
So, at what point would it be financailly not viable to ride to work and get on the sardine express?
A grey day in the life of commuting
NEVER !!!!
Think of the cost to your soul, the frustration of missed trains, or ones so full you cant get on.
Caddy2000
30-05-08, 08:19 AM
This is the reason I want to get my job re-classified to 'work from home' so I can claim all my commuter mileage back!!!
SoulKiss
30-05-08, 08:19 AM
MODS!!!!
Please delete this - was a dupe caused by the system messing up :P (Got a database error and EVERYTHING!!!!!)
I would technically need to either
a) - Get a bus/taxi to the train station
- Catch two seperate trains
- Get the bus/taxi to the office
or
b) - Catch 4 seperate buses
But then theres the potential that I would need to carry out a visit at the drop of a hat whilst in the office and need my car/bike....so I would always need my car on standby, so technically it would never be possible.
This is the reason I want to get my job re-classified to 'work from home' so I can claim all my commuter mileage back!!!
If the traveling cost became to much I could work from home.....add that to the fact that soon the centre of nottingham is likely to get a ?4.70 (Each way) congestion charge in the near future.
This isnt a time issue, purley financial. I know that it will take me longer to get to work (Actaully 10 mins more) but thats the joy of living and working in london and living a stones throw from the station.
NEVER !!!!
Think of the cost to your soul, the frustration of missed trains, or ones so full you cant get on.
Ah ok mr kiss. I agree but if you are on a very tight budget, like myself, and it comes down to food, rent, or riding to work, then im sure something will have to go, and i need to eat and live somewhere.
petevtwin650
30-05-08, 08:24 AM
Well, after a ?17.30 fill up this morning (118.9p), i have done the math, and if petrol gets to the ?1.30pL mark, then it will be cheaper to get the train into work. Technically its cheaper now if i take tax, insurance and maintaince into account.
A sad day where they win and we lose.
So, at what point would it be financailly not viable to ride to work and get on the sardine express?
A grey day in the life of commuting
But isn't this better for the people in general. Providing the transport system doesn't collapse under the strain.
We have gotten used to using our cars for every little thing. I know commuting isn't neccessarily little, but it is perhaps time to reassess our dependence on cars.
JamesMio
30-05-08, 08:30 AM
I've been seriously considering a little CG125 or similar for commuting on. 100mpg, pittance to insure etc etc.
Granted, it'll probably be slower than getting a train but still...
I've been seriously considering a little CG125 or similar for commuting on. 100mpg, pittance to insure etc etc.
Granted, it'll probably be slower than getting a train but still...
An option I had been looking at if things ever became desperate.
What mpg do 125's really get though?
Flamin_Squirrel
30-05-08, 08:34 AM
But isn't this better for the people in general. Providing the transport system doesn't collapse under the strain.
We have gotten used to using our cars for every little thing. I know commuting isn't neccessarily little, but it is perhaps time to reassess our dependence on cars.
:shock:
A Labour party member has infiltrated our ranks, burn him!
For the past 3 weeks I have been cycling to work - got a cycle computer last weekend and this week have been logging the miles - its a 15.2 mile round trip - by car this is usually costing me £15-20 - yes its not great in the rain but its not that bad and certainly not as bad as you might think...
Cycling is the way forward if you live <7-ish miles from work IMO...
I live in Brum and work in Rugby, costs are £8.10 return on train, a little bit more in petrol on the bike, and quite a bit more in petrol in the car. So at the moment train is cheaper and I do about half and half between train and vehicle.
I enjoy taking my bike on days when it's nice and I go 'the long way home' but otherwise I'm just straightlining it up and down the M6 so it's not the most enjoyable ride. In the car it's not too bad unless some muppet has a crash.
Train is officially cheaper for me but I couldn't do it everyday :shaking:
Warthog
30-05-08, 09:01 AM
I work in the middle of nowhere, there is no public transport anywhere near it so I have to ride. It is 16 miles each way too, so I can't really cycle. Not much I can do, I would love to be able to walk or cycle to work.
timwilky
30-05-08, 09:04 AM
It is near on impossible for me to get to my office (Only 40 miles away) by public transport. It would involve bus from home to Chorley. Train 05:26 train Chorley to Manchester 30 wait in Manchester. First train out to Knutsford and 2 mile walk.
However, in order to get to Chorley railway station I need to catch the last bus the night before as the first one only gets there at 6:55am. So do you fancy dossing down on a railway station for 6 hours.
I can do it in 30 minutes in the car. Public transport is a joke. It is not co-ordinated. The Royal Preston Hospital require nursing staff to start their shift at 7.00 am. The first bus to Preston station on a Sunday arrives at 08:43am and then you need to catch a bus from the station to the hospital which leaves at 9am. What nursing staff work on a Sunday!. never. I would have thought they would have a lie in like the bus drivers. Sorry patients no staff on a Sunday until at least 9:30.
petevtwin650
30-05-08, 09:05 AM
I work in the middle of nowhere, there is no public transport anywhere near it so I have to ride. It is 16 miles each way too, so I can't really cycle. Not much I can do, I would love to be able to walk or cycle to work.
Leave earlier.
HTH. :cool:
You didn't mention jogging either.:p
Leave earlier.
HTH. :cool:
You didn't mention jogging either.:p
+1 if you bought a half decent road bike, you could do that trip in under an hour and get healthy whilst doing it. I have considered buying a pushbike in the past for my 18miles each way.....last time i did that though for just a 2 mile commute I seemed to get punctures constantly.
yorkie_chris
30-05-08, 09:21 AM
An option I had been looking at if things ever became desperate.
What mpg do 125's really get though?
With the 2nd engine in my CG I reliably got 95 mpg, that was caning it everywhere. Way quicker than a train, all the commuter 125's now will do 70mph just and will be quick enough up to 30 to use in traffic.
I'd have a yam SRX6 as a commuter.
Warthog
30-05-08, 09:22 AM
+1 if you bought a half decent road bike, you could do that trip in under an hour and get healthy whilst doing it. I have considered buying a pushbike in the past for my 18miles each way.....last time i did that though for just a 2 mile commute I seemed to get punctures constantly.
woah there, I am not cycling 34 miles a day!! I'd get all fit! All my gut would disappear! I'd live longer!!
I have dusted down my pushbike:cool: I guess you use different muscles for cycling than for running - I'm reasonably fit but hell I struggle on the pushie.
rictus01
30-05-08, 10:19 AM
Cycling is the way forward if you live <7-ish miles from work IMO...
You are of course forgetting the pre-requisit of working knees though :(
Cheers Mark.
Electric push bikes for the wonky knee club?
They have a range of 20miles most of them and a 3hr charge time. The cost of the charge/energy probably wouldnt ofset any saving.
I'd cycle to work if it was all downhill there and all downhill on the way back
rictus01
30-05-08, 10:29 AM
Electric push bikes for the wonky knee club?
They have a range of 20miles most of them and a 3hr charge time. The cost of the charge/energy probably wouldnt ofset any saving.
Good idea, in fact I already had it, although I'm using a 900cc engine instead :cool:
:mrgreen:
Reckless Rat
30-05-08, 10:36 AM
You need to factor in the cost of your time..
as long as it's quicker by bike :rolleyes:.
Increase the hourly rate till it's cost effective!
RR
You are of course forgetting the pre-requisit of working knees though :(
Cheers Mark.
Yes that is kind of important :(
gettin2dizzy
30-05-08, 10:49 AM
I lift share ; it makes a world of difference :) (especially when your daily commute is 70+ miles ;))
arenalife
30-05-08, 10:57 AM
I commuted on a 125 for the first half of the year while I was deciding which next big bike to get, lost my Dad so everything was on hold for a while. It was a load of fun and saved lots of fuel money but when you factor in extra insurance, tyres, mot, tax and outlay for it etc, an extra 100mpg bike doesn't save over a single 50mpg bike yet.
The train costs only a little more than my 50mpg bike now but takes about 1hr 10 mins, the bike is about 35mins anytime. So the bike saves me an hour a day, can you put a price on that?? How much would you pay to have an extra hour a day with your kids and special one (or maybe away from them lol). The bike is mucho worth it to me anyway.
It would cost me £64 a week to commute to work on the train. Riding the Dullsville to work and back I can get 20 litres to last a week (about 200 miles). Petrol is going to have to rise a lot more before it's more financially beneficial to take the train. Even then the additional 45 minutes travel time would mean I'd still take the bike.
I'd have a yam SRX6 as a commuter.
Why ???
Just googled it & found http://www.geocities.com/srx34/index.html
Which quotes fuel consumption of 7 litres per 100 km, in real money I calculate that to be 40mpg. I have just filled up my ZX7R yesterday after commuting for 2 days on it (147 miles) (after breaking my SV :roll:) the engine wasn't running for much more than an hour :oops: and yet I still got 40 mpg (45mpg is usual for my SV)
?17.80 is the absolute cheapest return ticket I can get which assumes I cycle to the station & cycle through London to avoid the tube. Petrol is ?7.80 so petrol would have to go up to ?2.50 a litre before the train breaks even. Please, save me from that [-o< :shaking:
Notice not many londoners answering this question. Probably because they have done the math and decided that, hang on he's right. As i said, its a sad situation.
I will be on the train next week as im working at another site, and it works out at ?11 a week cheaper (Docklands CHARGE you for bike parking). It takes less time by train as well. Somethings not right. Im off to shoot ken livingstone and a fuel oil barons!
wyrdness
30-05-08, 02:41 PM
Notice not many londoners answering this question. Probably because they have done the math and decided that, hang on he's right. As i said, its a sad situation.
I haven't worked out the costs, but I'm not swapping my <30 minute bike journey for 2 hours by public transport. Cost isn't the only issue.
I haven't done the maths, but I'd doubt Viney's wrong for a lot of people in London. To get to my office though I need to go from Purley to London Bridge, then get the Northern line to Old St. This means on any given day buying a travel card for Zone 1-6. For a Peak day card that's £13.50 currently for the day. Clearly weekly and monthly tickets are cheaper but it's costing me about £20 in fuel a week at the moment. So for me It's still cheaper on the bike. But if I was to get a bus or cycle to East Croydon, and walk from London bridge I reckon I could save quite a bit off that. If I cycled the whole lot it's about 14 miles each way, and I'm not sure the food bill needed to sustain me would come in under budget.
Jambo
I haven't done the maths, but I'd doubt Viney's wrong for a lot of people in London. To get to my office though I need to go from Purley to London Bridge, then get the Northern line to Old St. This means on any given day buying a travel card for Zone 1-6. For a Peak day card that's £13.50 currently for the day. Clearly weekly and monthly tickets are cheaper but it's costing me about £20 in fuel a week at the moment. So for me It's still cheaper on the bike. But if I was to get a bus or cycle to East Croydon, and walk from London bridge I reckon I could save quite a bit off that. If I cycled the whole lot it's about 14 miles each way, and I'm not sure the food bill needed to sustain me would come in under budget.
Jambo
I'm sure Siq Squid could do it on £10 ;)
fizzwheel
30-05-08, 03:18 PM
You are of course forgetting the pre-requisit of working knees though :(
Depends on the level on wonkyness, in terms of exercise, cycling is very low impact compared to say running, its also good in terms of people with a low level of fitness.
I dont know for example though somebody with limited movement in there knee such as yourself would get on, it'd probably be impossible TBH.
In general though its not something IMHO that you reject out of hand if you only have a mildly wonky knee.
A guy at work has worked out that cycling to work is saving him not far off ?1000 a year.
Trouble is you have to factor in the cost of buying the pedal bike in the first place, and whether or not theres facilities to shower and change at your work place once you arrive there.
Getting your company to engage with the cycle to work scheme is also a good idea as you can buy the pushbike at a subsidised rate.
I cycle to work and now I have a good level of fitness its OK I enjoy it. But by god was getting started hard !!
Flamin_Squirrel
30-05-08, 03:23 PM
I used public transport to get to work. But, it only costs ?3 a day and isn't that much slower or more expensive than a bike would be when changing and the expense of tyres etc is taken into account. So for me fuel prices already discourage me.
Plus, having to wear a suit, public transport makes looking presentable much easier.
I'm sure Siq Squid could do it on ?10 ;)
Don't encorage him!:rolleyes: But yes using an Ian does save petrol money. Unfortunatly being cack handed means I get through more juice than him
And the jets on my bike are larger than his as standard. I checked. Not that it bothers me, oh no, not at all!
Jambo
SoulKiss
30-05-08, 03:33 PM
Notice not many londoners answering this question. Probably because they have done the math and decided that, hang on he's right. As i said, its a sad situation.
I will be on the train next week as im working at another site, and it works out at ?11 a week cheaper (Docklands CHARGE you for bike parking). It takes less time by train as well. Somethings not right. Im off to shoot ken livingstone and a fuel oil barons!
Well my commute is 4.5miles, @ 20 mins door to door
Allowing for 9 miles to the litre, thats ?1.15/day or ?5.75/week
By Bus its ?1.80/day or ?13/week and will take about an hour each way and be on a crowded bus.
By Tube the timing is down to 30 mins, but the price is up to ?4/day or ?24.20/week based on using an oyster card, and I can guarantee that on the way in, I wont get a seat.
So I have a way to go before its cheaper, or better to use public transport.
mr.anderson
30-05-08, 03:53 PM
Cost is a factor. And having a new ZX6R (insurance, fuel, etc etc) is definitely not for free. I believe that the tube is actually slightly cheaper in my case.
BUT, no matter the cost, I just cant put a value on not having to fight my way onto a packed tube and then to have some guys dandruff fall on you with someone else's briefcase is shoved up you ar5e admist a haze of McDonald's flavoured fart.
Thanks, but just not my thing.
with someone else's briefcase is shoved up you ar5e .
A lot of people pay good money for that!
They take the tube :roll:
wyrdness
30-05-08, 04:20 PM
Well my commute is 4.5miles, @ 20 mins door to door
Allowing for 9 miles to the litre, thats ?1.15/day or ?5.75/week
By Bus its ?1.80/day or ?13/week and will take about an hour each way and be on a crowded bus.
By Tube the timing is down to 30 mins, but the price is up to ?4/day or ?24.20/week based on using an oyster card, and I can guarantee that on the way in, I wont get a seat.
So I have a way to go before its cheaper, or better to use public transport.
4.5 miles? You could do that by bicycle :D
20 mins for 4.5 miles seems pretty slow to me. Even in London traffic.
SoulKiss
30-05-08, 04:22 PM
4.5 miles? You could do that by bicycle :D
20 mins for 4.5 miles seems pretty slow to me. Even in London traffic.
Thats cos I is slow, innit. :P
Or maybe thats the time to get to the bike bay and then walk to the office.
plus loads of traffic lights - and Price William St is murder at that point in time.
Blimey SK, 4.5 miles in 20 mins!! I used to, when i lived at home, done 10 mile sin that time, 25 mins at the most!! My current journey is 35 mins, same milage, just more difficult route!
plus loads of traffic lights -.
Defo bicycle then - they won't hold you up :razz:
I ride to work.....2.1miles and half the time of walking. I save approx 20minutes a day by riding as opposed to walking :D.
Thinking about a little 100cc scooter (well...an Aerox100) for winter.
At this moment in time I have no real financial commitments (still living at home n all) so not all THAT fussed about price of petrol.
Also, riding = more smiles per mile than walking ;)
fizzwheel
30-05-08, 06:53 PM
4.5 miles? You could do that by bicycle :D
20 mins for 4.5 miles seems pretty slow to me. Even in London traffic.
I can beat that time on my pushbike no problem.
( Yes Soulkiss I know you hate us :D )
Trouble is you have to factor in the cost of buying the pedal bike in the first place, and whether or not theres facilities to shower and change at your work place once you arrive there.
I cycle to work and now I have a good level of fitness its OK I enjoy it. But by god was getting started hard !!
I pulled my old mountain bike out and spent £100 on thin tyres, a helmet, a lock, a rack and a cycle computer and getting it all back up and running by a local bike shop - it was tough at first (15 mile round trip) but now I enjoy it and still cycle even if its raining - I am saving £15-20 a week so thats £60-80 a month I could put to a much better use - thats enough of an incentive to keep peddling!!
I would love to know what the increase in the price of fuel has done to the volume of sales. Is there any way of finding out?
Seeing as fuel taxes are supposed to have an environmental benefit of reducing consumption, yet I don't notice the roads any quieter after a 25% increase in the price of fuel.
It's just pain for us & stealth tax for the Govt.
plowsie
02-06-08, 03:25 PM
Once i get my pushbike fixed, I will be using that to get to work but we are moving away soon and I am seriously considering getting a scooter!
I pulled my old mountain bike out and spent £100 on thin tyres, a helmet, a lock, a rack and a cycle computer and getting it all back up and running by a local bike shop - it was tough at first (15 mile round trip) but now I enjoy it and still cycle even if its raining - I am saving £15-20 a week so thats £60-80 a month I could put to a much better use - thats enough of an incentive to keep peddling!!I would love to cycle to work, but i have Crystal palace in the way. Its steep on the way there, and steep on the way home, not a good combination.
I would love to know what the increase in the price of fuel has done to the volume of sales. Is there any way of finding out?
Seeing as fuel taxes are supposed to have an environmental benefit of reducing consumption, yet I don't notice the roads any quieter after a 25% increase in the price of fuel.
It's just pain for us & stealth tax for the Govt.Diesels broke the 50% of sales target last year apprently
Diesels broke the 50% of sales target last year apprently
You mean 50% of new car sales are diesel engined?
I meant how much has the volume of fuel sold fallen due to people using there vehicles less - you know all that driving people do for pleasure that harms the environment.
Well, as you all know I am a picture of health and fitness and not a fat b'stard who ate all the pies, then the pie maker and his house too...
Just started cycling the 15 miles too and from work once or twice a week, and it's (nearly) as much fun as going by motorbike.
It is, I admit, slower. I'm thinking tho, I need to lose about 5 stone, or 25% of my body weight. Surely that'll give me a couple of (almost) free BHP (effectively, as the bike will have less of me to lug around) therefore in the long run it'll make me faster, if you see what I mean...
I've got a new pushbike which retails at (prepare yourselves) £550. Got it through cycle to work, which means I don't pay VAT on the bike in the first place. Then the price of the bike comes from my gross, not net pay, meaning I claw some cash back from the Westminster gangsters and get the bike for an effective 43% discount.
That means it costs about £290. I figure that 50 days of cycling saves me on petrol, tyres and wear and tear on the kwak enough to pay for the Marin quite effectively, plus I get fit!
Although it does mean that I become the bane of Soulkiss' existence...
viney cant you sleep under your desk monday to thursday night and just go home at weekend. you will save a fortune on travelling and food (you could live on pot noodles during the week)
markmoto
02-06-08, 05:32 PM
Ok so who would buy a diesel motorbike?
Ok so who would buy a diesel motorbike?
Me me me! :cheers:
think of the Torque :twisted: Diesel boats sound fantastic, so I don't see why with the right can they can't sound OK.
Problem is they are so expensive to buy/no 2nd hand ones available.
& the same problem as a 100mpg small capacity petrol - you don't save enough to justify extra costs.
Bear cycle to work sounds fantastic to get a cheap bike (& upset SK - Bonus :razz:) suppose it depends on your employer operating it????
yorkie_chris
03-06-08, 10:27 AM
Ok so who would buy a diesel motorbike?
Me.
Sign me up for one of those diesel KLR's the military are getting, 100mpg and you can throw it at cars for fun and it looks like it'd be right.
markmoto
03-06-08, 10:34 AM
Me.
Sign me up for one of those diesel KLR's the military are getting, 100mpg and you can throw it at cars for fun and it looks like it'd be right.
Yeah they are an interesting proposition, hdtusa are are/where meant to be putting a civilian version into production but i dont think its happened yet, personaly i think they are missing out on alot of sales. If the price is right they will sell well. Would like to have a ride on one to see how it rides. I want one in army olive drab :D
Me me me! :cheers:
think of the Torque :twisted: Diesel boats sound fantastic, so I don't see why with the right can they can't sound OK.
I had a turbo diesel 306 for a couple of year that I spent WAY to much money on.
It ran at about 130bhp and had a special one off exhaust made up, it sounded like nothing else, absolutely amazing. It had a massive turbo whistle because of the boost it was running and the burble sounded like a subaru boxer engine.
diesel most definetly can sound good........look at lemans cars even, those diesel audis and peugeot sound unbelievable.
yorkie_chris
03-06-08, 10:38 AM
Run it on red/veg oil/any crap ... can't see vosa dipping bikes any time soon :-P
markmoto
03-06-08, 10:40 AM
The thing about turbo'd diesels is that they dont realy need a silencer because the turbo acts as a very efficient silencer so you get to hear the turbo whistling :cool::cool:
DanAbnormal
03-06-08, 10:44 AM
For me it would have to be at about the ?2.20 mark. Not so far away I bet.
JamesMio
03-06-08, 10:53 AM
Run it on red/veg oil/any crap ... can't see vosa dipping bikes any time soon :-P
Great minds etc, which bikes out there are Diesel, I've only seen the Royal Enfield Bullet so far.
It costs me 258 quid a month for a season ticket to work, and I've no idea what it'd cost me to do it by bike. I've never even really considered it.
I can leave home, walk 5 minutes to the station, buy a paper and zone out for the next hour til I get to work. The journey home is much the same. OK, so I have to stand a bit, but if I want a cheeky pint or 10 I can, and I don't watch a bike depreciate due to stratospheric mileage.
"A sad day where they win and we lose". What a load of rubbish. 4.5 miles. You could bleedin well walk that!
plowsie
03-06-08, 10:59 AM
"A sad day where they win and we lose". What a load of rubbish. 4.5 miles. You could bleedin well walk that!
I did it yesterday :D Walked to work 4.5 miles :D Was good.
"A sad day where they win and we lose". What a load of rubbish. 4.5 miles. You could bleedin well walk that!
I dont do 4.5 miles, and that was my quote. Mines more like 20 miles a day, and i have agree, Soulkiss could walk the 4.5 miles :)
You mean 50% of new car sales are diesel engined?
I meant how much has the volume of fuel sold fallen due to people using there vehicles less - you know all that driving people do for pleasure that harms the environment.
Ah, i see, yes i meant new car sales, probably why derv has gone through the roof
SoulKiss
03-06-08, 11:26 AM
It costs me 258 quid a month for a season ticket to work, and I've no idea what it'd cost me to do it by bike. I've never even really considered it.
I can leave home, walk 5 minutes to the station, buy a paper and zone out for the next hour til I get to work. The journey home is much the same. OK, so I have to stand a bit, but if I want a cheeky pint or 10 I can, and I don't watch a bike depreciate due to stratospheric mileage.
"A sad day where they win and we lose". What a load of rubbish. 4.5 miles. You could bleedin well walk that!
Yes I could walk it, or any of the other choices.
However that would eat into the one commodity we are all short on.... time.
Even without assigning a value to an hour of my time (but if you must, ?40/hour will do (not the most I have been paid for an hours work, but will do) but an extra hour+ at home every day is worth more than money.
Its not about being lazy, its about best use of my time.
DanAbnormal
03-06-08, 11:35 AM
Yes I could walk it, or any of the other choices.
However that would eat into the one commodity we are all short on.... time.
Even without assigning a value to an hour of my time (but if you must, ?40/hour will do (not the most I have been paid for an hours work, but will do) but an extra hour+ at home every day is worth more than money.
Its not about being lazy, its about best use of my time.
I see where you are coming from. I could not be arsed with walking 5 miles each way to work. I mean, it rains all the bloody time.
gettin2dizzy
03-06-08, 11:42 AM
search for '800 diesel motorcycle'. I'm at work so can't get the link, but a Dutch company have put a 800cc turbo diesel from the smart car in to a bike. It's got more torque than a 'busa and does 120mpg! I'd love one but they're around 14,000 Euros :( There's even a switch to change it to run on veg oil ;)
Yes I could walk it, or any of the other choices.
However that would eat into the one commodity we are all short on.... time.
Even without assigning a value to an hour of my time (but if you must, ?40/hour will do (not the most I have been paid for an hours work, but will do) but an extra hour+ at home every day is worth more than money.
Its not about being lazy, its about best use of my time.
Not a good enough excuse. I reckon you could cycle the 4.5 miles faster than you can ride it. I do part of your journey, and it is the slowest part of mine.
Get a push bike ;)
SoulKiss
03-06-08, 02:16 PM
Not a good enough excuse. I reckon you could cycle the 4.5 miles faster than you can ride it. I do part of your journey, and it is the slowest part of mine.
Get a push bike ;)
push off :P
MrMessy
03-06-08, 09:41 PM
I can get a free bus upto work from the end of the road. But still use bike unless weather is bad.
Bear cycle to work sounds fantastic to get a cheap bike (& upset SK - Bonus :razz:) suppose it depends on your employer operating it????
If anyone's interested Evans Cycles (www.evanscycles.com I think) run it through their website. Pretty sure if you go into work with all the details they probably wouldn't say no?
Its a government sceme apprently. The company get tax relief so its all good.
gettin2dizzy
04-06-08, 10:39 AM
HM Revenue and Customs have published new fuel only mileage reimbursement rates. With effect from 1 June 2008 employees should claim the following rates:
Company Car Users – Essential users, Executive cars and executives in receipt of a Car Allowance
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fizzwheel
04-06-08, 10:50 AM
If anyone's interested Evans Cycles (www.evanscycles.com (http://www.evanscycles.com) I think) run it through their website. Pretty sure if you go into work with all the details they probably wouldn't say no?
As Viney says its a government scheme, despite this and the benefits of it our company are refusing to join the scheme as they say that the can't cope with the admin overhead.
As Viney says its a government scheme, despite this and the benefits of it our company are refusing to join the scheme as they say that the can't cope with the admin overhead.
Thats what ours said too...
fizzwheel
04-06-08, 11:01 AM
Thats what ours said too...
Its frustrating, we get moaned at all the time about not parking on the road, about how we should walk to work etc etc. The company have shelled out a lot of money and bought land for an overflow carpark that nobody uses because its 2 or 3 minutes walk to the office from the overflow carpark, yet they cant find a bit of time to run a scheme that would ease the parking issues.
its crazy.
Its frustrating, we get moaned at all the time about not parking on the road, about how we should walk to work etc etc. The company have shelled out a lot of money and bought land for an overflow carpark that nobody uses because its 2 or 3 minutes walk to the office from the overflow carpark, yet they cant find a bit of time to run a scheme that would ease the parking issues.
its crazy.
Sounds familiar - our motorcycling parking area quite often has cars on it for the same reason - the overflow car park is about a minute walk on the opposite side of the road. I asked about having it clearly marked out but the guy who can make it happen is one of the worst offenders... :rolleyes:
I just let them get on with it now and come in by pushbike!
fizzwheel
04-06-08, 11:06 AM
Ours is messed up the pushbike and motorbike parking is in the same place. I've asked about dedicated motorbike parking as I dont want gsxr being scratched and was told no.
So now I park in a car space when I come to work on the GSXR and it really p*sses people off. Security sent an all users email out about motorbikes not parking in a car space so I replied very politely saying that when I was provided with a secure safe place to park my motorbike I'd use it, as they hadnt provided me with such as space what else was I supposed to do.
Nobody has moaned at me since !!
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