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gettin2dizzy
26-06-08, 09:14 AM
Parents cleaning out their child's lunchbox at the end of the school day could be in for a nasty surprise — a scolding note from teacher alongside the half-eaten sandwiches and empty crisp packets.
The School Food Trust wants teachers to send out warning letters to parents who fail to comply with school healthy-eating policies. And in advice that could be seen as patronising, the government-funded body suggests further that they send congratulatory letters to those who pack healthy lunches for their children.
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I wonder how much taxpayer's money the 'school food trust' soak up to come out with these 'gems'.
I'd be tempted to send a letter back telling them what their failings are as teachers. ;)
They can nob off, I use to eat all sorts of crap at school as I'm the fussiest eater on the planet.......my mum literally had to give me what I would eat as there wasnt much I would eat bless her.....I was a right pain in the **** :(
I have started eating carrots recently though.......the only veg I eat :)
gettin2dizzy
26-06-08, 09:19 AM
You big fanny! Eat some bloody veg ;)
dizzyblonde
26-06-08, 09:20 AM
I'd send em a letter back saying F off, my son ain't fat and never will be....its genetic;-)
he gets school meals paid for by me anyway...even then he don't eat much and is a waste of money...lunchboxes are worse
where is this think tank, and how much do they pay em?? bloody idiots
ArtyLady
26-06-08, 09:26 AM
Nanny state nonsense - Im just glad my kids are grown up!:rolleyes:
My youngest's day nursery (half day) refuse to let the kids eat anything they don't deem as 'healthy' - that's a pretty effective way to deal with it. Send healthy food, or your child brings it home again & doesn't actually have a snack in the mornings.
That said, there is some food we class as healthy that the staff don't. Like the organic fruit bars from Tesco...
The eldest two have breakfast and lunch at school, subsidised by the LEA.
The kids are always eating healthy food anyway, the favourite at the moment is peas, taken fresh from the pods, raw.
If they took the time to send us a "congratulations" letter, I'd be sorely dissapointed that they wasted their time, and politely ask the school not to bother again. Their time can be better spent elsewhere IMO.
gettin2dizzy
26-06-08, 09:37 AM
A quick google gives their funding
http://www.schoolfoodtrust.org.uk/UploadDocs/Contents/Documents/sft2007financial_statements.pdf
£15 million to start up with an additional £7 million a year to run, their greatest expense being 'issue profiling and campaiging' (£2million)
Start up recruitment costs £581,000
and a Chief Exec taking £80k/year (with 20k /year pension contribution)
We are passionate about our task and have set ourselves four key goals that we will strive to achieve over the next three years:
Ensure all schools meet the food based and nutrient based standards for lunch and non-lunch food
Increase the uptake of school meals
Reduce diet-related inequalities in childhood through food education and school based initiatives
Improve food skills through food education, and school and community initiatives
Sounds like a breeze to me! I think I need to start looking for a job in the Government sector. That's your money folks ;)
That's your money folks ;)
It's not though really is it?
We'd have to pay the same taxes regardless of where it's getting spent. It's just the office jockey who decides where to spend it that should get shot!
IMO, there should be the death penalty brought back, and anyone who works in finances for the govenment should be given the choice:
- If you sign that contract, and don't make a visible improvement to the economy based on this set of criteria, you will be deemed guilty of breach of contract, which for public sector work carries a sentence of death.
That should sort the men from the boys :)
My youngest's day nursery (half day) refuse to let the kids eat anything they don't deem as 'healthy' - that's a pretty effective way to deal with it. Send healthy food, or your child brings it home again & doesn't actually have a snack in the mornings.
I simply dont understand what right they have to do that.
If a parent gives their child something to eat at lunch, the school/nursery have no right to take that food from the child. It completely undermines the parent and their decisions.
Very wrong in my opinion.
gettin2dizzy
26-06-08, 09:59 AM
It's not though really is it?
Well it could be diverted to take care of the huge debt that NuLabour has drummed up, so I'd say it was. The government spent over £100 billion on these quangos last year [here (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3953922.ece)]. A huge turn around is needed to halt the crazy spending; work for works sake just doesn't work (ironic ey?;))
I simply dont understand what right they have to do that.
If a parent gives their child something to eat at lunch, the school/nursery have no right to take that food from the child. It completely undermines the parent and their decisions.
Very wrong in my opinion.
What about the right of the child to have a healthy diet and to receive good nutritional food? The child has its adult life to eat whatever it wants to and so abuse the body accordingly. Surely it is the parents/guardian responsibility to ensure that the child receives the healthies diet possible. All the school are doing are ensuring that this is the case. Good idea in my opinion. There are too many people who wish to divulge responsibilty with one hand and disown it with the other. With constructive nurturing and positive encouragement, kids will actually enjoy a healthy diet - mine do!
... lack of school rights...
...rights of child...
You both have a point, but it doesn't really affect us. All 3 of the kids always go to school with healthy snacks - usually fruit/yoghurt etc, and the eldest 2 take a bottle of water, whereas the youngest gets free milk.
It's a case of a policy that we would naturally adhere to even if it weren't there.
Well it could be diverted to take care of the huge debt that NuLabour has drummed up, so I'd say it was. The government spent over £100 billion on these quangos last year [here (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3953922.ece)]. A huge turn around is needed to halt the crazy spending; work for works sake just doesn't work (ironic ey?;))
IMO opinion, whoever is in power will spend millions on the various quangos - it makes no difference. Perhaps if we feed our kids right, they'll come up with a new system - one that doesn't need quangos and think tanks....on the other hand monkeys might fly out of my butt!!
IMO opinion, whoever is in power will spend millions on the various quangos - it makes no difference. Perhaps if we feed our kids right, they'll come up with a new system - one that doesn't need quangos and think tanks....on the other hand monkeys might fly out of my butt!!
I'm sure that's the point that I just made a few posts back... ;)
I'm sure that's the point that I just made a few posts back... ;)
Hmm...just re read it...similar i suppose;)
Anyways...since they could eat solids, my kids have been encouraged to partake of a whole range of veg and fruit etc. Macca D's is a once a month treat. Lunch boxes have a healthy appeal about them...etc etc...don't want to get into a willy waving competition about it though.
There probably are more worthy causes where public money could be spent but how do you sort that out? I know - lets set up a think tank to sort out all the think tanks...that'll be a vote winner!!:smt120
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=105880&highlight=krispy+kreme
Check my previous thread............
gettin2dizzy
26-06-08, 10:25 AM
IMO opinion, whoever is in power will spend millions on the various quangos - it makes no difference. Perhaps if we feed our kids right, they'll come up with a new system - one that doesn't need quangos and think tanks....on the other hand monkeys might fly out of my butt!!
It's inevitable as you say, and it saddens me that people view David Cameron as the solution to Labours failings. He's merely next in the queue of bad leaders with equally dismal followers seeking ways to fill their own pockets and desires for seconds in the medias attention.
Children do need to eat healthily and a better way of doing this would be to put more funding in to decent school dinners. Follow in the footsteps of europe and teach children to enjoy food by providing freshly prepared, wholesome meals. If that means banning snacks throughout the day then so be it, but leave that to the individual school to decide.
Invoke passion and appreciation for food in children at a young age, make it part of their education. When I was at school we made cookies and muffins from kits! or pizza with preprepared bases for a whole term...?! What nonsense! Screw that, take them to a farm, get them starting a recipe book by showing the staple british meals, teach them to try something new every week. So many solutions, such little creativity or funding required.
timwilky
26-06-08, 10:58 AM
I had to laugh in Asda the other day. Met my next door neighbour. As they went into the crisp/snack aisle.
Dad asks Lewis (5 yr old) what crisp he would like for his school lunch. Lewis says. "We are not allowed crisp and chocolate at school, because some boys and girls have not go them. And it wouldn't be fair if I had some.
I then hear Craig (dad) say. Well I ain't buying them for the whole school just so you can have some. He sees me and says bloody political correctness.
True children have to learn about good food, where it comes from. How it is prepared, how to cook it etc. But surely that should come from home.
True children have to learn about good food, where it comes from. How it is prepared, how to cook it etc. But surely that should come from home.
+1. :)
Kate Moss
26-06-08, 11:09 AM
So what happens to the kids that are needing a little extra in their diet? At age 11 i was barely 4 stone and encouraged to eat a little more fat etc. If this was the case for my child (if i was to have one) would the schools say my kid couldn't have the fattier food as it wasn't their policy?
Surely it ultimatly comes down to the parents to decide what their children are eating. I guess in some very sad cases where the parents don't care what they are feeding their kids, the schools would intervene?
At age 11 i was barely 4 stone and encouraged to eat a little more fat etc. If this was the case for my child (if i was to have one) would the schools say my kid couldn't have the fattier food as it wasn't their policy?
In that case, a letter from your GP would have the school running to check they were covered for lawsuits. :)
Kate Moss
26-06-08, 11:14 AM
In that case, a letter from your GP would have the school running to check they were covered for lawsuits. :)
Was never diagnosed with a medical condition as far as I know. Just high motabolism i guess.
So was their a vote as to say who gets to tell the children what to eat?
Was never diagnosed with a medical condition as far as I know. Just high motabolism i guess.
So was their a vote as to say who gets to tell the children what to eat?
Even so, a letter from a GP stating that you & the child have had medical advice to eat more fatty foods would probably do the trick.
I know all the GPs at our local surgery's are happy to write to anyone, about almost anything.
As for a vote... you're having a laugh, right?
Pedrosa
26-06-08, 11:18 AM
Nanny State interference one might call it. But look around out there. Obesity is rife today. Parents looking for the easy option and pampering to children0s fads of inapropriate "food"choices.
It is a sad comment on society when any kind of authority has to even contemplate such action being called for.
Those who criticise this campaign,what considered and inobtrusive alternative do you suggest in order to protect the children of today,who will in large numbers become a strain on the health service and benefit system of the future due to their weight related problems.
:lol: so they are telling you what YOUR own children can and cannot eat.
Mr Brown, my new dad it seems?
I will not let anyone tell me what to do with my children when it comes to it. Especially a school.
Pedrosa
26-06-08, 11:23 AM
:lol: so they are telling you what YOUR own children can and cannot eat.
Mr Brown, my new dad it seems?
I will not let anyone tell me what to do with my children when it comes to it. Especially a school.
I understand where you are coming from Daimo. But just look around and see where this kind of parental attitude has led many youngsters today. I am not talking of food related issues in their isolation,but rather in so many areas of society where acceptable levels of behaviour and perception have reached dire levels.
I am afraid if a parent has a bad attitude or behaviour,they are less likely to help mould a reasonable and responsible youngster.
I had a huge reply ready, about how kids/parent seem to be idiots these day, no lifes, no clues, but "dey iz cool innit"
But then i realise, im not like this, my child will never be brought up like this, and its the interent, so no-one cares really anyway :lol:
But yeah, your totally right, half the problem IS the retarded "im right your wrong, i'll kick your head in" type parents anyway. 90% of the UK :lol:
gettin2dizzy
26-06-08, 11:42 AM
Only 90%?! ;)
Flamin_Squirrel
26-06-08, 02:27 PM
I understand where you are coming from Daimo. But just look around and see where this kind of parental attitude has led many youngsters today. I am not talking of food related issues in their isolation,but rather in so many areas of society where acceptable levels of behaviour and perception have reached dire levels.
I am afraid if a parent has a bad attitude or behaviour,they are less likely to help mould a reasonable and responsible youngster.
You're not going encorage people to be more responsible if you remove their choice to make their own decisions though are you.
Besides, as dumb and irresponsible as some people can be, I'd still trust your average Joe to make better decisions than your average idiotic MP.
You're not going encorage people to be more responsible if you remove their choice to make their own decisions though are you.
Besides, as dumb and irresponsible as some people can be, I'd still trust your average Joe to make better decisions than your average idiotic MP.
When it comes to people making decisions, they often need encouragement and guidance to make the right or better on...there are a few wrong ones that can be made, but there are even more 'easy' ones...it is these easy one IMO that are the dangerous and misinformed ones.:-k
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