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sv-robo
29-06-08, 02:59 PM
Who will you be cheering for?

My head says germany:(,but my heart says Spain:D

Since the first ball was kicked i've been cheering for the matadors,for various reasons.
A/being a Liverpool fan theres a connection there Torres/Alonso/Arbeloa/Reina...even though only Torres will probably start.

B/like England,Spain have some of the best footballing talent around yet always underachieve at the big tournaments.

C/Spain have arguably played all the best football + can't stand the krauts.

GO SPAIN:smt041.....DAMN NOW WHY DID'NT I PUT A BET ON?

Dave The Rave
29-06-08, 03:43 PM
I am not sure cheering is the right word but I hope the Spanish Brigade will do it this time. Surely no one can be cheering for Germans (not even Germans I think).

jumjum_0214
29-06-08, 05:09 PM
SPAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the way!!!!!! :-)

dissuade
29-06-08, 05:31 PM
can't stand the krauts.





Surely no one can be cheering for Germans


I happen to be German. And just because we are both white doesn't mean that's not offensive. Racial slurs are not endearing.

mrsgid
29-06-08, 05:40 PM
I am not sure cheering is the right word but I hope the Spanish Brigade will do it this time. Surely no one can be cheering for Germans (not even Germans I think).
i will be

mrsgid
29-06-08, 05:41 PM
I happen to be German. And just because we are both white doesn't mean that's not offensive. Racial slurs are not endearing.
i am half german so i hope they aren't being racist

sv-robo
29-06-08, 06:07 PM
i am half german so i hope they aren't being racist
Nope,definately not being racist......it's just a football thing.

(now lets not turn this into a heated debate:roll:)

Lissa
29-06-08, 07:07 PM
Spain.

Even before the tournament started I intended to support them because of the Liverpool connection. Then I drew them in the sweep at work:D

tone64
29-06-08, 07:31 PM
1 - 0 come on:smt003

hovis
29-06-08, 07:36 PM
watching top gear

tone64
29-06-08, 07:39 PM
damn , forgot to press the sky+ bummer, is it still repeated tomorrow:(

Miss Alpinestarhero
29-06-08, 07:49 PM
Germany all the way!

Maria

Pedrosa
30-06-08, 09:49 AM
The weakest German side I can recall were soundly played off the park by a Spanish team that stayed to their game plan of passing football. The Germans tried to hustle the Spaniards out of their game for the first 15 minutes but that effort could never be sustained. Once the Spanish players began to get hold of the ball the Germans had very little in answer.

Cleverly on occasions the Spanish utilised a good old English tactic of the long ball to great effect. Why? This allowed Fernando Torres to terrorise the two lumbering centre backs with his pace, a goal came from such a play.

I have never seen a more convincing 1-0 victory. A score of 4-0 would not have flattered the Spanish on the night. It was clear on their faces and the body language as they waited to go to collect their losers medals, that the German players knew they had been soundly beaten.

Luis Aragones was subjected to a hate campaign over racism generated by the English press. The same guy was the first Spanish coach to cap a black player,(Marco Senna) That master stroke saw Marco easilly play the man of the match role last night.

Michael Ballack? A string of cynical fouls, constant badgering of the officials, slow and well past his best.

Well done Espaņa!

Warthog
30-06-08, 11:42 AM
I happen to be German. And just because we are both white doesn't mean that's not offensive. Racial slurs are not endearing.

I am half German as well, I also find the pointless anti-German sentiment stupid. Am I offended? Nope, I just think less of anyone that speaks like that. "It's just a football thing". How does that justify it? Just proves that football is a violent and racist game too. We have had 1 and a half pages about a football match and already had two racial slurs and one comment about a manager also being vilified under racist pretences. Why can't anyone in football just concentrate on the game??

Give me rugby any day. No chair-throwing, supporters from both teams standing side by side and no cynical professional fouls and diving antics.

Warthog
30-06-08, 11:46 AM
And by the way the Germans played atrociously, it was very good to see Spain triumph with their optimistic and beautiful football.

Dave The Rave
30-06-08, 12:02 PM
I am not sure cheering is the right word but I hope the Spanish Brigade will do it this time. Surely no one can be cheering for Germans (not even Germans I think).

OMG ... surelly NO ONE can say this is racist?

They had the worst team Germany ever fielded. Slow, no creativity yet they still go to final. I was furious last EURO when Greeks won it. No talent and double helping of luck. Amitedly the German site as marginary better than the Greeks, but still no match for anyone else. I would prefer to see the Turks in as it would surelly be more entertaining to watch?

Hope I am not offending any Germans/Half Germans etc. :shaking:

Pedrosa
30-06-08, 12:33 PM
Reality check.

Spain last won the Euro Championship in 1964,they were finalists in 1984 but lost. Over 40 years of under achievement and in that time fans full of hope but never of any real bravado to suggest they had a world beating team.

The Euro Championship only lacks Argentina and Brazil in order to make you realise how BIG a thing it is to win it. Then again the South Americans do not normally perform too well when the World Cup is held in europe.

The Spanish attitude has been far different from that of English fans,who have forever clung to the fact that they won the World Cup. Yes they did but it is so long ago that it has almost no relevance at all.

So what realistic hope is there for England in the next World Cup. How would they have contributed to Euro 2008? Was the tournament poorer for their absence?

Discuss.;)

arc123
30-06-08, 01:17 PM
I happen to be German. And just because we are both white doesn't mean that's not offensive. Racial slurs are not endearing.

Dissuade - Because you're fit I reckon you're not included in ther Krauts he can't stand :smt045

gettin2dizzy
30-06-08, 01:23 PM
Is it just me or did the cameras keep panning to gorgeous german women?!
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not that I noticed..:rolleyes:

sinbad
30-06-08, 01:26 PM
Throughout the whole thing Germany played crap football. No neutral is going to support any team playing like that, nobody wants to see a team win with brute force and good fortune. I was delighted Spain won and I would have hated to see Germany win. It's a victory for football, I just wish they'd really stuck the knife in and made it 4 or 5.

I hope that Spain become a new dominant force in international football.

@El Pedro: England? Hope and expectation are two different things. I hope they qualify, I hope they play good football, I hope they'll reach the final, I hope they win. I realistically expect them to qualify but not get far in the finals. Capello needs to give them some self belief, or a kick up the ****, or something. All of the players compete at arguably the very highest club level. There must be a certain amount of potential there, at least equal to that of teams like Russia, Germany, Croatia. I'd just like them to be regular contenders, in with a chance against anybody.

keithd
30-06-08, 02:51 PM
So what realistic hope is there for England in the next World Cup. How would they have contributed to Euro 2008? Was the tournament poorer for their absence?

Discuss.;)


hope for england in the next world cup? well, of course depends on seedings, but anything further than the 1/4's has to be considered an achievement. of course the red tops will be whipping the nation (of single iq holders) up into a frenzy of expectation. and when we dissappoint as will inevitably will, there'll be the usual outbreak of good old english violence.

was euro 08 poorer for england not being there? i dont think you could get one team which qualified for the finals to think that was the case. from what i saw - and admitedly it wasnt a great deal - but it was pretty good quality, couldnt see how we could have improved it any. and i quite enjoyed not giving a monkeys who won/lost/drew for a change.

Hockeynut
30-06-08, 03:42 PM
Was cheering on Germany, but Spain definately deserved to win.

sv-robo
30-06-08, 04:58 PM
I am half German as well, I also find the pointless anti-German sentiment stupid. Am I offended? Nope, I just think less of anyone that speaks like that. "It's just a football thing". How does that justify it? Just proves that football is a violent and racist game too. We have had 1 and a half pages about a football match and already had two racial slurs and one comment about a manager also being vilified under racist pretences. Why can't anyone in football just concentrate on the game??

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Ok as far as (the can't stand the krauts)thing goes ,maybe that was a bad choice of words so if i offended anybody i apologise .

Basically as a Liverpool fan i hate manchester utd,that does'nt mean i hate people from manchester(i don't)likewise when i commented i can't stand the krauts,again i mea'nt the football team,not the country as a whole.

Hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding.

Wish i had'nt started this thread now......sometimes i wonder why i bother on here anymore.:thumbdown: