has anyone ended up hating thier job so much they cant face it any more

[454697819]

Im rapidly heading that way..

Im holding on as I am moving hopefully by september, however if the house goes on the market and doesnt look like it will sell I will HAVE to change jobs.

I know the construction industry can be a hard nosed industry but i didnt realise it was full of complete IDIOTS... and I mean IDIOTS.... complete thicko's the kind of ppl that your supprised actually rember to keep brething.

I have tried oh so many times to change my attitude i case it was me, Iv tried everything but alas I know have no option but to blame this setup here..

I spend my entire days answereing stupid questions which I have already answered twice but due to changes ins taff I have had to answer a third time, then they build somethign else because it was esier or because they had a cuppa and decided differently...

Im through.. I've had it... and I pray ill be out of here so soon... I dont even care if the grass doesnt look greener... im frapped and dont even want to come here in the mornings any more..

any way rant mode off...

need lunch...

[Jayneflakes]

Im rapidly heading that way..

Im holding on as I am moving hopefully by september, however if the house goes on the market and doesnt look like it will sell I will HAVE to change jobs.

Im through.. I've had it... and I pray ill be out of here so soon... I dont even care if the grass doesnt look greener... im frapped and dont even want to come here in the mornings any more..

Yeah, been there. Still dealing with it.

See my pride page on here and my reason for marching.

At the start I loved my job, but then it turned and I ended up stressed, violated and depressed.

A quick tip, don't go into education. It sucks. :smt076

[fizzwheel]

Yes, I left.

[mary]

Yes, I left.

same here. I was really fed up doing the same stuff every day but it took me ages to make the decision to leave and act on it. It was worth it though, 3 weeks into a new job and the grass is definitely greener. (crosses fingers)
i'd recommend a change

[custard]

yup! done it before and want to do it now. dont work for the police!

just got turned down for a job today so i feel great! on the plus side some old biddy has just handed what appears to be a hand grenade into the station so the whole place is shut until they can make it safe! 2 hour lunch break. sweet!

[Baph]

Yes, I left.
+1.

I approached my then manager, and raised my concerns. They said things would be looked into but this would take time etc. Understandable.

Then a couple of months later, the straw that broke the camels back, I was blamed for something beyond my control, when I'd complained about that very thing happening a few months before. Nothing had changed.

I had a meeting with the same manager, but this time included the MD responsible for my department.

The meeting was along the lines of "This is wrong, that is wrong, I was promised this would be sorted out. It's just happened again, and I'm leaving. Immediately. My resignation has already been emailled to the both of you. Good bye!"

Needless to say, on the ride home that day, I felt very free!

[Filipe M.]

I'm contemplating, and thinking about thinking...

[Baph]

I'm contemplating, and thinking about thinking...
Go on... up sticks, you know you want to. :D

[cuffy]

I'm in the same boat myself, the company i'm working for is ran by incompitent bufoons, there's no direction, leadership, everyman/woman is out for themselves.
Doesn't help that they're laying off half the shopfloor in order to move our product line out to Turkey (staff will be next hit :pale:), so morale is at an all time low.
I'll just keep plodding away until something better turns up :D

[Ed]

Yes - at my last job. I hated it, the shareholders didn't have a clue and had removed the MD thinking that some new bloke would change things overnight. I was looking for another job when they made the decision for me and sacked me without warning or notice. I made them pay for it though:D

[G]

I often feel that way.


Construction is so full of bureaucracy, people who (think they) know to much, and people who really do know nothing and sometime you just have to wonder how they manage to keep going in their profession without people realising they are a retard.

You have to keep at it, earn a living, and leave work at work.

[Filipe M.]

Go on... up sticks, you know you want to. :D

Time will tell.

[Iansv II]

You should try the printing industry, never known anything like it.. clueless isn't the word...

I too hate my job but its reasonable money which has been paying my debts which is the only reason i've stayed

My future should be resolved one way or the other early next year though as my job is being outsourced, I'll either get a new job with the outsourcing company or a nice cheque which will pay off my debts and get me a new bike... so happy either way

Until then though, i'll stay thoroughly fed up

[454697819]

I am leaving soon, but its got to the point of not being able to face it in the mornings... thats gotta be bad...

ah well... smile and wave boys smile and wave..

[SoulKiss]

I am leaving soon, but its got to the point of not being able to face it in the mornings... thats gotta be bad...

ah well... smile and wave boys smile and wave..

Go to your doctor, get signed off for Stress and Depression.

Then you can sit at home instead and not have to face it.

Works for many people :)

[Iansv II]

Go to your doctor, get signed off for Stress and Depression.

Then you can sit at home instead and not have to face it.

Works for many people :)

I've thought about doing that many times... seen it done by a few people in the past..

I just don't think I could look myself in the mirror after though, quite a moral person really :-$

[dizzyblonde]

come and work where I work...you'll be sooooo depressed within a weekend on nights( or any other shift) that you'll run straight back to your old job.
I hate my job, but, can't jack it in. Its quite a good wage for what I do. I couldn't get that amount for working inbetween school hours, so i have to grit my teeth and get on with it.
In fact my other half hates it there so much he went to the docs with pain in the hip, to get time off for his final exams.....on the one hand it worked, cause hes off permanently, on the other came the reality that hes fooked and will be in surgery next week:neutral:
but hey, when hes well again, we''lll be running as far away from the place as possible

[redbouy]

I get fed up with the job about every 2 years and change boats. So yes just dump it. there is tonnes of work out there if you want it.
Pete

[Viney]

No, But verna has, and she got made redundant in the end anyway

[Stig]

Yes twice. Changed jobs twice and not just changed companies, changed careers completely.

It can be daunting and stressful, but at the end of the day, why stick doing what your doing just because that's what you know how to do?

First change was a the worst as it was when I left the Army after 12 years and had no idea what the hell I was going to do. Quite worrying as my family were dependant on me and I gave up a secure job and future. Turned out good in the end and I ended up with a career which doubled my income.

Next change was not so difficult as I got a new job whilst still in the old. But I sacrificed good pay for more home life. So money was short. Again, we got through it and I've been promoted so money is no longer such an issue.

Jo was working doing a job she really hated. We really needed the money but I wasn't prepared for to come home sometimes in tears. She quit and was much happier. We got used to the lack of income again.

Personally, I'd say never stay in a job your not happy with. Especially if you hate it that much. You may have to make sacrifices to get out of it, but if your prepared to work hard, it's worth it.

We shouldn't live to work, we should work to live. :cool:

[Filipe M.]

We shouldn't live to work, we should work to live. :cool:

So true...

[matt c]

I got shafted my my work and i'm in a pretty crap job with them at the moment. Same money, but it's boring as hell.

[mister c]

I'm in that boat at the moment. I have a General Plant Manager that asks me for ideas on certain elements of the job & then goes to the MD saying that he has a new Idea.
I dont want to blow my own trumpet, but have been in the Plant Hire industry nearly 30 years, he has been in it for 5 years, so he knows everything there is to know (or so he thinks) He worked on a farm before getting the job.
My drivers are earning nearly 20 grand a year (about 20 quid a week less than me) for delivering within a 10 mile radius of the shop in Transit vans & a 7.5 ton truck. If they have to go any further afield, they moan about why can't the customer go to another hire company closer to. They don't do anything else other than deliver, so stand around, or brush up when there is nothing to do. One of them doesn't even know his address & telephone number, he has to have it written on a piece of paper in his glasses case & the other one cant write (no I'm not joking).

They work 39 hours a week & get paid overtime if they do any hours over. I work 53 hours a week plus any other times as required for no extra.
My caring employer cut my wages by half while I was off ill & didn't tell me, so am now having trouble with cash (my fault I haven't got a contract).
I could go on & on, but won't. I'm looking at going back to stacking pallets in Morrisons Warehouse in Northwich, 45 hours a week, no hassle & about the same amount of money.

Sorry, rant over.

[rob13]

I got shafted my my work and i'm in a pretty crap job with them at the moment. Same money, but it's boring as hell.


I too got shafted by my employer. Changed forces and was immediately shifted into a boring desk job which I never wanted in the first place. Was trying to get out but since accident im long term sick and looks like im stuck in there for a while.

Believe me I have strongly considered changing careers totally, but then wonder if the grass is greener out there. Im well paid and Im getting paid full pay whilst im off work. A lot of people in my situation would be stuffed right now. I could still be stuffed if I go back to work and Occupational Health say Im not fit to perform the role.

[Stig]

I'm in that boat at the moment. I have a General Plant Manager that asks me for ideas on certain elements of the job & then goes to the MD saying that he has a new Idea.

That's how the system works mate.

A good friend of mine pointed out I needed to box clever when the same was happening to me. A written email to my manager with his manager cc'd in explaining my idea. Or waiting until his manager was within ear shot before giving my manager my idea. It worked. I got promoted. My manager is now not my manager, he is my equal. :wink:

[Jayneflakes]

Go to your doctor, get signed off for Stress and Depression.

Then you can sit at home instead and not have to face it.

Works for many people :)

I am signed off at the moment because I was assaulted at work. It is rubbish, My confidence is low, I feel like a sponger and the people who assaulted me got off totally free. My advice, never bother to work in education. :smt076

[sv-robo]

Yep,hated my last job(well not the job but the boss & his missus)i was a sprayer for 8yrs.The boss was a scottish bloke who was the most ignorant,arrogant tight fisted,underhand barsteward you could ever possibly meet,as was his missus who new nothing about the business as a whole but liked to stick her nose in all the time.

Anyways one day i'd had enough,the previous year or so they,d been trying to make my life hell as there were only around 10 of us worked there and i was the only one who would speak their mind,this he took exception to as he was also a bully who only employed young lads who he could bully and manipulate.

So to cut a long story short i had told the other employee's that the only way to get to him was to hit him in the pocket...i did exactly this,i wound his missus up at work(as she was also my boss & part owner as well as being the one who pi**ed e off the most) and she ended up slapping me across the face..that waswhat i'd been waiting for as my better half is a soliciter and she new the avenues to take....£8000 in compensation which wuold have hit him in the pocket just like i said to do.....RESULT.

I now have a better paid job for a lot less work and my work colleagues are sound,you could say ......jobs a good un:D

[Foxy]

I now have a better paid job for a lot less work and my work colleagues are sound,you could say ......jobs a good un:D

Yes same here, hated my last job but went for one I didn't think I would get and now earn nearly three times more money than I did before :D. Best move I ever made...:cool:

[Shellywoozle]

Yup I felt the same in the last 2 jobs I had, company got taken over by the French and they had no idea. Jumped ship to the competitors who were worse and had less of an idea. Managers couldnt manage their way out of paper bag making my job twice as hard and stressful as it needed to be.

One job my Marketin Manager left, I took on the Managers role to keep the dept afloat, they advertised the job and gave it to a guy on the shopfloor who had no idea of marketing and asked me to train him :(

Left to join the Police .... don't ask me if it's any better !!! But I know I won't have to go through the redundancy route I had been down 10 times in 4 years.

Hope things get better for ya hun, if you get to the stage I got to all the people you work with you will want to kill. (altho as a copper I advise against that bit)

[SoulKiss]

Quite funny that I am posting after the woozlebabe, as I was bitching to her about my work this afternoon on MSN :)

2 weeks ago it was announced my work was being bought out.

From what I can see they are a mostly Microsoft house, looking to heavily sell Microsoft products and become the #1 Microsoft Partner in the UK.

Which doesnt really fit in with my skill set.

Now there are whispers that the guy with the vision is being shortsighted from people that have the ability to effect change, but leaves me wondering whats going to be happening......

[sibbo]

if it helps
i thought the same way about my job fed up redundancy etc... so i bought the company(large share of) hahahaha sound familiar now i have to work even harder to pay my humungous over draft off
i cant really print wat i think now cause all people say is told u so hahahaha
lifes a biiiaaaaatch

[MR UKI (1)]

Yep every day. But it pays the bills, keeps us in food and pays for me bike. Could find summat else, but would have to commute, lose decent accrued holiday entitlement as a result of a few years service and find you have to deal with the same cr@p but in a different environment. Until a lottery win happens, work is just summat that happens between weekends and has to be endured :smt076

[Ed]

if it helps
i thought the same way about my job fed up redundancy etc... so i bought the company(large share of) hahahaha sound familiar now i have to work even harder to pay my humungous over draft off
i cant really print wat i think now cause all people say is told u so hahahaha
lifes a biiiaaaaatch

I'm about to go on hols for a few days (not weeks, days) and just to finish off and make sure nobody complains I started work today at 7.15 and I've only just got home. Being self-employed is damn hard work.

[BoltonSte]

Bleedin hell, there's a lot of unhappy folks on the Org, yeah I'm also one of them, been doing chemistry for 10 years now and need a change, I need something which actually has an end product like when I was in the States, not just plodding along in research. Well now the misses has got a job teaching so will get a good payrise in Sept. I think I'll start having a look around problem is I have no idea where to start or what I want to do.

Anyone know any good websites.

Ste

[Ping]

Yup, currently job hunting...... and I hate it too. Now, if life was fair I'd win the lottery and have to do neither.

:lol:

[timwilky]

Yes I am fed up of digging poo that is being sprayed by a big fan.




I have my own way of working. My last annual appraisal 3 years ago said. "Tim does not do teams. " My boss has not had the guts to do another since.


They leave me alone with projects that minimise my exposure to idiots and only get me out of the box when jobs are deemed too difficult for the idiots.

The last one was to resurrect a document management system that was scrapped despite there being contractual requirements on document retention.

Today I get upgrade of a hydraulic modelling system despite being instructed to sack all my c programmers 5 years ago, and why do IT need to employ a fluid dynamics specialist, chemical, electrical and mechanical engineers. sack them they are not required for us to supply MS office.

Slowly my bosses are learning parts of the organisation expect IT to supply them with specialist tools and not just office tools. Now where are the consultants who said we should be using Commercial Off The Shelf software. 500 copies of Microsoft Power Station designer please.

[wheelnut]

I'm in that boat at the moment. I have a General Plant Manager that asks me for ideas on certain elements of the job & then goes to the MD saying that he has a new Idea.

They all do that sir!

I dont want to blow my own trumpet, but have been in the Plant hire industry nearly 30 years, he has been in it for 5 years,

Sorry, rant over.

I dont want to blow my own trumpet either, but have been in the Transport industry over 30 years, she has been in it for 5 years,

Do you want to swap jobs?:)

[Baph]

Bleedin hell, there's a lot of unhappy folks on the Org,
I was unhappy with work - that's why I left. I then spent 4 months doing sweet FA and loving it.

Money running low enforces the need to return to work. Where I am aint perfect, but there's some decent perks, the pay aint too bad, and we're given free reign to have a good laugh so long as the work gets done.

Sure there's bad times & I have the occasional rant, but that's definately a minority.

[metalmonkey]

yup! done it before and want to do it now. dont work for the police!

just got turned down for a job today so i feel great! on the plus side some old biddy has just handed what appears to be a hand grenade into the station so the whole place is shut until they can make it safe! 2 hour lunch break. sweet!

So what was it, more important was up blown up:D So what you do then, civilain or officer?

Yup I have walked out of jobs before, had arguments with bosses before:rambo::smt094 I told one boss to shove his job up his:smt097 I felt so good that day, I then went with mates that night as I didn't have to work, I found a temp a week later. Thats how spent my last year before this job, just different projects some fun, others very dull.

So yeah if you hate your job leave, which I did changed careers, moved to London. So it can be done, but only you can do it!

[gerbrox]

The grass is never greener, I do actually hate my job at present but it ticks 9 out of 10 but the remaninig one is job satisfaction, the job I left I was really happy with but hell of unorganised adn lacked real prospects. Moved to my current employer and progression will be ok money better suits family life but job sucks. Almost phoned my previous employer to see if I'd get my old job back!!!!

Anyway given teh curent s.h.i.t.e. weather we're having might just pack up everything and kids and move to spain and work in a bar!!! sleep on the beach!!!

[redbouy]

Ok ogers how about starting a job going section of the site.
I will start

i for one will be looking for a tech mind person at the end of the year.

a (yes Im allowed to say it) female for the inside next year about march.

you will have to move here and live. Alls paid for by the boat and its tax free.

So who else has a job going ?
Pete

[Stig]

I need someone to do my shredding. I can't shut my pedestal without a fight. I'll buy you a coffee and a doughnut.

[gettin2dizzy]

Ok ogers how about starting a job going section of the site.
I will start

i for one will be looking for a tech mind person at the end of the year.

a (yes Im allowed to say it) female for the inside next year about march.

you will have to move here and live. Alls paid for by the boat and its tax free.

So who else has a job going ?
Pete
I'm pretty much decided to pop over and scout things out ;)

[redbouy]

did you want the first or second job :p

[fizzwheel]

I'll buy you a coffee and a doughnut.

I might be interested but it would depend on what sort of Doughnut you are offering ? :smt080

[gettin2dizzy]

did you want the first or second job :p
I don't look so cute in a dress :lol:

I'm working in mega-demolitions at the mo. If you've a fast boat....I hear there's some money carelessly lying around in safes in Monaco ;)

[startrek.steve]

Yeah, been there. Still dealing with it.

See my pride page on here and my reason for marching.

At the start I loved my job, but then it turned and I ended up stressed, violated and depressed.

A quick tip, don't go into education. It sucks. :smt076

It does...
I now work SUPPORTING education... I go in and out of schools looking after deaf/visually Impaired kids and I LOVE it! best job I ever had (no Jane Mansfield in sight!)
Steve

[mattSV]

I'm contemplating, and thinking about thinking...

It's over rated - just get another drink in.

[Nostrils]

Been there myself, a couple of years ago I left a very secure job in a design / cad department because working towards becoming the department manager always turned into a dangling carrot, 3 yrs of that I resigned to work as a sales rep for the first time.

My first day in the new job, first impressions and all that....on the drive home from Nottingham all I could say is "Oh S H I T" - but the job was easy money on salary and commission. Thankfully visits to Head Office were few and far between and working from home was a plus. 1st year target ?300K, actual ?420K (only 7 months), 2nd year (oh no, I stayed this long already) target ?500K, actual ?720K and for both years I was 'top' salesman....which actually annoyed me so much as the other 6 had been in the business for over 20yrs. Anyway, I was called to meeting at a London Hotel because I had told someone how demoralised I was through lack of office support etc. and was on the phone to the MD who was asking for my continued support over the next year......in that split second and in front of the sales director I said no and resigned there and then. The plus points were that I managed to pay off all my debts bar the mortgage with my commission - back with design / cad and after 2 years I want out, but not quite at the Cya Later stage! Blimey sorry about the essay!

[Stig]

I might be interested but it would depend on what sort of Doughnut you are offering ? :smt080

Err Apple, Jam, Custard. What ever you like. I'm still watching me weight so tend to leave the cakes on the table. Damn it's bloody hard to go make a coffee and see all them cakes screaming at me and not eat all the f'kers up. =P~

[ThEGr33k]

yes I get very depressed when I have to come to work. Horrible feeling. Worse is that its going to be 16 months before I get out of it. :(

BAH!

[Lozzo]

I hated my last job which was trying to teach delinquent teenagers. They didn't want to be there, didn't want to learn anything, and spent most of the time being disputive, abusive and mostly stoned, so I resigned and at the age of 45 decided to retire. My boss at the time was trying to tell me what lovely lads they all were really, but I never saw any indication of that from the vast majority of them. When I left I told the boss that another week and I would have ended up inside for a serious assault against at least two or three of them

Nowadays I do a bit of bike servicing and repair, housework, and generally taking it easy. I don't claim a penny from the state, and cba to start my bike repair business properly because I don't advertise or do work for anyone I don't know personally. Life is good - I have enough money in the bank to see me through a few years of doing nothing at all if I wish and my blood pressure has returned to a safe level. There's no stress at all, and the only things that upset me now are the odd broken bolt or sticky throttle cable.

[Paws]

Had my ups and downs at hein gericke, mustve loved it really though as i went back 4 times lol
current job-rapidly not enjoying it at mo have to say, but way things are going for jobs id rather be safe and stick it out.

[Wayluya]

Sometimes I am tempted to go back and work for someone else, simply because it is easier and the money is in me bank account at the end of the month whether I "earn" it or not.....but I know me, will end up trying (and failing) to do the job properly when it is not actually possible......and going mad trying - like others on this thread.

I have several of those T-shirts from years gone by........and the stories I could tell :smt074. One place I even looked for hidden cameras, convinced it was a Beadle / reality TV set up. It wasn't.

PS just went back to the Bike Dealer (got a s/h 2003 ZZ1200 for sale I had a looksee over last week).....to chat about service history etc and suss out how much movement in the price their is - no decision to buy at the moment, but tempted...............Closed Saturday afternoon!

[caz650s]

I hated my last job which was trying to teach delinquent teenagers. They didn't want to be there, didn't want to learn anything, and spent most of the time being disputive, abusive and mostly stoned, so I resigned and at the age of 45 decided to retire. My boss at the time was trying to tell me what lovely lads they all were really, but I never saw any indication of that from the vast majority of them. When I left I told the boss that another week and I would have ended up inside for a serious assault against at least two or three of them

Nowadays I do a bit of bike servicing and repair, housework, and generally taking it easy. I don't claim a penny from the state, and cba to start my bike repair business properly because I don't advertise or do work for anyone I don't know personally. Life is good - I have enough money in the bank to see me through a few years of doing nothing at all if I wish and my blood pressure has returned to a safe level. There's no stress at all, and the only things that upset me now are the odd broken bolt or sticky throttle cable.

I have just done the same thing ..although I am 49 ...Worked flat out since the day I left school .. Payed for the house don't want for much so just going to take it easy maybe a couple of part time jobs just to pay the bills !

I only left my NVQ Automotive Assessors job (nightmare job !! ) Yesterday and have already been offered some part time CBT training and some part time MOT testing ...Life is sweet :D

One thing ,,,how can I get offered two jobs in one day and others are on the dole for ever ? :confused:

[instigator]

454697819 (http://forums.sv650.org/member.php?u=1598) - Are you not in the same industry as me, building services engineer?

I had the worst time with my previous employer, stayed with them for a total of 8 months, working so many god damn hours and not getting any overtime. I put in 70-80 hours weeks easy which, for a graduate, is just silly. The manager at the time had absolutely no idea how long the requests he made actually look to carry out and as such, I was working every weekend, albeit using building simulation software so a lot of it was sitting around, waiting to get some results.

Took one trip back home (scotland) and came back to the office at 8pm, the day before I was due back to check up on emails. And it just twigged, life isn't supposed to be like this, this is at a time when I should really be travelling, enjoying life to the full etc. So I wrote out a resignation letter and sat it on his desk. Went home, turned my alarm off, turned my phone off and went to sleep.

I'm still in the same line of work now as a design engineer but work with fantastic people who I get along with really well. And I go home at 5pm too! Woohoo!!

[Jayneflakes]

I have just done the same thing ..although I am 49 ...Worked flat out since the day I left school .. Payed for the house don't want for much so just going to take it easy maybe a couple of part time jobs just to pay the bills !

I only left my NVQ Automotive Assessors job (nightmare job !! ) Yesterday and have already been offered some part time CBT training and some part time MOT testing ...Life is sweet :D

One thing ,,,how can I get offered two jobs in one day and others are on the dole for ever ? :confused:

I am desperately searching for a new job, I am prepared to try almost anything. But there are so many people here chasing the few technical jobs going. It is driving me insane.

I just want to work somewhere, where I will not be beaten up, verbally abused and treated with contempt. I thought Education was the place to make a difference, but I am leaving feeling very disillusioned. :smt010

[gerbrox]

454697819 (http://forums.sv650.org/member.php?u=1598) - Are you not in the same industry as me, building services engineer?

I had the worst time with my previous employer, stayed with them for a total of 8 months, working so many god damn hours and not getting any overtime. I put in 70-80 hours weeks easy which, for a graduate, is just silly. The manager at the time had absolutely no idea how long the requests he made actually look to carry out and as such, I was working every weekend, albeit using building simulation software so a lot of it was sitting around, waiting to get some results.

Took one trip back home (scotland) and came back to the office at 8pm, the day before I was due back to check up on emails. And it just twigged, life isn't supposed to be like this, this is at a time when I should really be travelling, enjoying life to the full etc. So I wrote out a resignation letter and sat it on his desk. Went home, turned my alarm off, turned my phone off and went to sleep.

I'm still in the same line of work now as a design engineer but work with fantastic people who I get along with really well. And I go home at 5pm too! Woohoo!!

I totaly agree, used to run commissioning engineers who used to call me a 01.30 in the morning drunk telling me they weren't coming in to work as they were sick, lots of work and nothing back,company totally unorganised but believe it or not it did feel quite rewarding without the huge pay packet. if you seen my last post I'm working for a design firm BH but really unsatisfying, but everything else is great.

[northwind]

I left mine when it got like that... Though I stayed in the company. I realised I was hanging on just out of bloody-mindedness, because I hated my boss and I was enjoying making her life a misery, but that's no way to spend your days. Once I realised that, I would honestly have left and done anything else, didn't matter what. I'm quite bad for this, things need to be pretty terrible before I'll sort myself out.

[Frank]

love my job.Been doing it for over 20 yrs(oh dear)Self employed ,different place everyother day ,work extra hard some days to finish early others .
And NO boss

[Kinvig]

love my job.Been doing it for over 20 yrs(oh dear)Self employed ,different place everyother day ,work extra hard some days to finish early others .
And NO boss

burglary?

[Frank]

burglary?
you got me