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timwilky
21-07-08, 02:26 PM
Teenage biker killed by 'booby trap'





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Published Date:
21 July 2008
By Jenny Simpson (jenny.simpson@lep.co.uk)
A teenager died after being flung off his trail-bike by a booby trap wire strung between two trees on a Lancashire track.
17-year-old Ryan Acaster, from Brinscall, Chorley, was riding the motorcycle on a dirt track at Martin Mere, near Burscough, when he collided with the wire just before 2pm yesterday. ((SUN))

Detectives were today investigating how the wire came to be strung between the trees at the remote rural path, off New Lane.

The boy's dad, who is from the Southport area, found the youngster lying badly injured when he went to search for him, after noticing he had been gone for some time.
It is understood the teenager was not wearing a crash helmet and suffered serious head injuries.

A crew from the North-West Air Ambulance secured the boy's airways and then airlifted him to Royal Preston Hospital.

He was given emergency treatment at hospital but died soon afterwards.
The scene was cordoned off last night while officers combed the area for clues as to how the wire came to be there.

Insp Peter Upton, force incident manager at Lancashire police, said: "We do not know who has put the wire there yet.

"All we can say is a 17-year-old boy has died as a result.

"CID are involved in an investigation to find out the full circumstances as to how it came to be across the path.

"We have got it cordoned off."

An air ambulance spokesman said: "We were first on the scene. The boy had suffered massive head injuries and we took him to Royal Preston Hospital."

A Lancashire Police spokesman said there is no indication at the moment that the wire had been deliberately set up to cause harm, although investigations are continuing to try and establish who manages the land.

A post mortem examination was due to take place today.

It is believed the farmland where the accident took place is a popular haunt for traill bikers.

Trail bikes are lightweight, two-wheeled motorcycles designed for off-road riding. Also known as dirt bikes, they have special tyres and suspension for riding on unpaved roads and over rough terrain.




Looks like somebody is in for trouble big time.

They need to find the clown who did this fast before others think "What a good idea", Nasty motorcycles destroying our peace and quiet etc.

gettin2dizzy
21-07-08, 02:43 PM
Ouch! There are some vile vile people out there. Lets hope he's caught pronto

ThEGr33k
21-07-08, 02:43 PM
Disgusting! Though he really should have had an helmet... That was stupid to allow him on it without one! :(

Nobbylad
21-07-08, 02:56 PM
Disgraceful! And not too far from me :(

OK kids razzing around on bikes can upset people (esp. farmers with livestock etc etc), but this is beyond comprehension if it is a deliberate act.

pmapp
21-07-08, 03:47 PM
Sad news indeed.

Unfortunatly though it is nothing new. We had a spate of this a few years back local to us when we used to go biking in the woods. Luckily nobody was injured due to it, but potentially we could have had the same outcome.

G
21-07-08, 03:50 PM
Metal spikes in the ground is a favourite around here, we have a place called the desert which is apparently legendary in the off road world.

custard
21-07-08, 03:55 PM
poor sod! RIP. responsibility probably lies with local residents who are fed up of kids whizzing round and the police not doing anything about it.

Al_Sweetman
21-07-08, 04:07 PM
My bet is residents, or ****ed off walkers.

THe amount of times I've come accross logs over paths, barbed wire over tracks etc. when going down *designated* mountain bike routes is ridiculous, you get even worse on 'joint' routes....

One recent trip to Coed-y-Brenin I had to bail just after a 6ft or so drop (run out was bermed) and as I flew round the berm low and behold there was half a f*cking fence in the middle (not a bunny-hoppable one sadly) - you could see the drag marks from where it had been pulled over...

ChrisCaveman
21-07-08, 04:47 PM
There's a village near me, Holt, where some kids tied rope across the road between 2 trees, and it almost totalled a friend of mines Citroen 2CV.

I mean, the 2CV is pretty much made of tin foil anyway, but what a load of little b4stards!

Demonz
21-07-08, 04:59 PM
Premeditated Murder?

tanis34
21-07-08, 06:19 PM
they ought to give him the noose when they catch him/her

dizzyblonde
21-07-08, 06:45 PM
I had personal experience of clowns that tie ropes across roads last year, one dark winter night after work. Luckily I come round the bend on my street very slowly as tied from one lampost to the other was a nice length of blue rope.......the kids in the house ran rather quick when they saw my headlight round the bend

What they didn't expect was for me to park the bike outside the house, and proceed to nigh on beat the door down.
I'm not one to get overly ****ed off to someones face,but If they weren't kids I'd have choked em to death.
As for a country lane, this is bang out of order, they must have been absolute w$ankers to tie wire from trees. ****es me off to know end this sort of stuff.

rob13
21-07-08, 06:49 PM
This happened a few years ago in Teesside. Same result unfortunately. Poor kid.

Nobbylad
21-07-08, 06:55 PM
On the local news tonight, not a country lane, police reckon wire was put up to 'restrict access to a private area'...not sure if they have to say that until they prove it was put there on purpose or if it is genuine and the poor lad just made another mistake (as well as not wearing his lid).

Very sad :(

svrich
21-07-08, 08:43 PM
I remember something like that round this way the other year. A guy on his trails bike ran into some barbed wire accross the track of a well known off roading area. He survived but had(s) a nasty scar on his lower neck. Better than losing his head though!

timwilky
22-07-08, 08:36 AM
OK people, I have just had an update on this.

The poor lad concerned, Ryan works for one of my relations in Brinscall. His parents are devastated obviously, my (sort of uncle/aunt :- as in sister of my err step mother) went up to see Ryans mum yesterday.

However, it was NOT the land owner, he has been letting people ride there for years. Somebody has admitted responsibility to the police yesterday

G
22-07-08, 09:28 AM
Landowners also do this with barbed wire fences across rivers to stop canoeist.

Luckypants
22-07-08, 10:23 AM
Landowners also do this with barbed wire fences across rivers to stop canoeist.

Sometimes, but normally these are stock fences to stop animals wandering off up the river at times of low water. They can only use single wires as anything more may block the river at times of high water. Not everyone is out to get you....

G
22-07-08, 10:28 AM
Sometimes, but normally these are stock fences to stop animals wandering off up the river at times of low water. They can only use single wires as anything more may block the river at times of high water. Not everyone is out to get you....


I know thats what they say, but on the Upper Section of the river Dart there always used to be a particular farm owner who didnt actually own any sheep putting fencing up.

stuartyboy
22-07-08, 04:51 PM
Heart goes out to the boy's family.

Don't know if it's the same down south but in Scotlalnd there's a total ban on trail bikes and quads on walk paths, forestry commission and public rights of way. Bikes are confiscated up here if caught and if the rider is injured then usually charged to add insult to injury.

yorkie_chris
22-07-08, 10:56 PM
Premeditated Murder?

Something like.

If the landowner had given permission for people to ride there then there's no crime been comitted by the victim.

My condolences to the family.

Daimo
23-07-08, 11:24 AM
Sorry, not fussed.

Yes the wire is BAD BAD news...

But then if the lad had been wearing a lid, he'd probably be alive still.

At 17, if you can't work out that its not a good idea to ride without a lid, then i have no sympathy. Another hooligan off the beaten track/road as far as im concerned.

Although the person/people who done the wire should have their balls cut off with blunt siccors.

timwilky
23-07-08, 11:47 AM
why do you think he was a hooligan? Apparently bikes have been riding there with the owners permission for years.

The wire was apparently at waist height. and caught up in his bars throwing him off.

yorkie_chris
23-07-08, 05:08 PM
At 17, if you can't work out that its not a good idea to ride without a lid, then i have no sympathy. Another hooligan off the beaten track/road as far as im concerned.

Ok so riding without a lid is a bad idea. Don't see how this makes him a hooligan since he was riding in a perfectly legal way, as far as what we've read says.

In fact, a lads been murdered and you're comment basically says "nice one". *****.

Daimo
23-07-08, 05:20 PM
If you read the lad died from serious head injuries. Only hooligans (phrase with pinch of salt) would be the kind of people to be riding around on a bike with no lid, fast enough to hit a wire, and die of head injuries.

If he was wearing a lid.....................?

Don't know them so can't feel any sympathy really. I see young lad bombing around on a bike, and killed by someone (im sure the wire wasn't intending to kill someone, only injure).

Im not saying at all (its not murder), im just saying from what i've read, although the issue of the wire is terrible, shocking in fact, but the rider wasn't exactly being safe on a motorcycle either.

yorkie_chris
23-07-08, 05:30 PM
Probably half of everyone who's ever ridden a bike has learnt on a heap of a field bike belting round some bit of out of the way land. Why does wearing a helmet change anything except the risk, which is your own lookout.

Hooliganism = anti-social behaviour, annoying people, doing harm.

He was riding his bike, in a place with permission. You can die of head injuries at quite low speed.

A wire is hardly the most visible thing, especially if it's woodland.

ging6996
23-07-08, 05:48 PM
Sorry, not fussed.

Yes the wire is BAD BAD news...

But then if the lad had been wearing a lid, he'd probably be alive still.

At 17, if you can't work out that its not a good idea to ride without a lid, then i have no sympathy. Another hooligan off the beaten track/road as far as im concerned.

Although the person/people who done the wire should have their balls cut off with blunt siccors.



you stupid t*at. no 1 deserves to die how would you like it if it was 1 of your kids.

show some respect!!!! he was in a field not on a public road with kids people etc.

graham

ging6996
23-07-08, 05:49 PM
the artical dosnt rely say if bikes were alowwed on the field or not.

still some 1 needs to be punished.

wat a shame.

graham

timwilky
23-07-08, 08:15 PM
It was Ryans employers that told me that he was riding there with permission. This may be or not the truth. It would appear the wire was put there to stop unauthorised access to the fields.

Ryan apparently knew this dirt track well and rode it regularly when ever he visited his dad. However, his visits were fortnightly. I would not be surprised to find out the wire was placed there since his last visit. That it was not placed maliciously and it was a terrible accident.

Biker Biggles
23-07-08, 08:27 PM
You dont have to wear a lid on private land.Until quite recently it was common to see official ACU trials riders wearing cloth caps and no gloves.I suppose they were all hooligans who deserve to be killed as well?
The last fatal bike crash I saw was wearing proper gear,but no chest protector.It was the chest impact that killed him.His fault as well?:rolleyes:

Flamin_Squirrel
24-07-08, 08:44 AM
If you read the lad died from serious head injuries. Only hooligans (phrase with pinch of salt) would be the kind of people to be riding around on a bike with no lid, fast enough to hit a wire, and die of head injuries.

That's some seriously ignorant ******** right there.

Red Herring
25-07-08, 06:33 AM
I read a report that says the wire was put across the track to support a sign saying "private road" because motorcyclists riding illegally on the adjacent woodland kept turning in there, both of which tend to suggest that perhaps the lad shouldn't have been riding there. It also went on to say that the lads father found him after he didn't come home, which indicated he knew where to go and look for him.
What happened was tragic and i do feel for the family, but this is an accident that is waiting to happen again all over the country. Kids will be kids, that's why they have parents to look out for them.

timwilky
25-07-08, 09:06 AM
Talking with Ryans employers last night. they had been to see his mum yesterday and took them his last wage packet. Apparently the police have also interviewed the brother of the guy who admitted placing the wire as he was supposed to have helped him fit it.

Again they said that the farmer who owned the land allowed the local lads to ride that track. Other reports have said the wire was there to prevent access to a field. Not until the enquires are complete can the suppositions be turned in to fact.

Whoever did place it, probably never intended to harm any one. It is all to reminiscent of the lad who was killed hitting a chain on his bike on Bolton Wanderer car park (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4529065.stm)

Warthog
25-07-08, 09:34 AM
enquires are complete can the suppositions be turned in to fact.

Whoever did place it, probably never intended to harm any one. It is all to reminiscent of the lad who was killed hitting a chain on his bike on Bolton Wanderer car park (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/4529065.stm)

In the light of this, should the thread title not be changed as it is rather misleading and evokes a lot of anger that is perhaps misplaced?

Daimo
25-07-08, 01:43 PM
you stupid t*at. no 1 deserves to die how would you like it if it was 1 of your kids.

show some respect!!!! he was in a field not on a public road with kids people etc.

graham

Its not though, so I have no respect. From what I have read, the lads in the blame too.

Quite frankly, im amused at the replies of some. Yes, its fine to ride a motorcycle without a skid lid. Clever thinking there people :lol:

Don't know them, don't really care, and i find it comical so many "dedicated" people defending someone they don't know and isn't even alive anymore. In fact, Tim is the only one who has any real connection in any way, yet he has not slandered me for having an opinion, mearly posting the facts he knows. But all those that don't even know the lad, well, its easy to fire insuls behined a keyboard I guess. I guess these people think its ok to ride without a lid too. No matter WHAT bike your on. My mini moto was only 5" off the floor and only done 25mph, should I have not weared a skid lid on that??? Its only small, slow, I mean, it doesn't break collar bones, skulls at all do they :rolleyes: Get a grip some of you, wake up to smell the coffee.

I guess you all knew the lad well enoguh to make such valied opinions?

I am writing my opinon from what was written. Hard time reading it, then tough titties im afraid. Lifes full of hard times :lol:

Yes, I am a stupid "tw4t" for having my own opinion and not following the crowed :lol: Hmmmmmmm

Also, I wonder if you all would be so kind if this were an adult rider pulling a wheelie and being killed by someone/thing if the rider wasn't wearing a lid? No, you'd all flame them to hell for not having a lid. The fact this lad was young, and the death aided by other means, does not mean anything.

Young lad + fields + motorcycle + no protection = Acident waiting to happen, oh, it did, he paid the ultimate price.

I aint being nasty, im being real without suger coating and heavenly angle topping another motorcycle death like some.

Flamin_Squirrel
25-07-08, 02:52 PM
Also, I wonder if you all would be so kind if this were an adult rider pulling a wheelie and being killed by someone/thing if the rider wasn't wearing a lid? No, you'd all flame them to hell for not having a lid. The fact this lad was young, and the death aided by other means, does not mean anything.

That's a rubbish example. A better example would be saying good riddence, you deserved to die, should you get yourself killed coming off your motorcycle whilst 5mph over the speed limit.

Infact, coming off and getting killed full stop, because speeding would mean you were breaking the law, which this kid wasn't.

yorkie_chris
25-07-08, 03:54 PM
I aint being nasty, im being real without suger coating and heavenly angle topping another motorcycle death like some.

you still sound like a tw4t though.

So who here learned to ride on a heap of a field bike? Without a full set of CE armor? Guess what, you deserve to die.

fizzwheel
25-07-08, 04:03 PM
Young lad + fields + motorcycle + no protection = Acident waiting to happen, oh, it did, he paid the ultimate price.

But thats not stricly true is it. You need to add on + wire put up by somebody for some purpose we havent actually yet ascertained.

Theres a difference between ridnig round a field and falling off all by yourself and being whipped off your bike when your not expecting it by a wire thats been put up across the path that you are riding across.

Yes the outcome may have been different if he'd had a lid on... but I dont actually think thats the point is it ?

Daimo
25-07-08, 04:46 PM
you still sound like a tw4t though.

So who here learned to ride on a heap of a field bike? Without a full set of CE armor? Guess what, you deserve to die.

Me, at 6 years of age.

Even then I had the common sense to use a crash helmet, large gloves, large jacket, thick jeans and the biggest boots I had. Before my dad even told me to put it all on.

I sound like a tw4t, I guess your great at basising an opinion of someone from a reply on the internet. Thanks, but i'll be friends with people with more of a judge of character than a simple "internet" reply... :lol:

Fizzy, true, but it says he died of serious head injuries, and i remain stated, that if he was wearing a skid lid, he'd probably be alive.

No respect, or time for anyone who goes out riding ANY motorcycle without adiquate protection. Can't understand that, then thats absolutly FINE by me. I'll be the one with more chance or retaining my skin and brains in an accident.

Flamin_Squirrel
25-07-08, 07:19 PM
I'll be the one with more chance or retaining my skin and brains in an accident.

But the best way to retain your skin and brains is to not crash at all.

We all continuously assess risk - how fast to go (above or below the speed limit), to go for that overtake, is it wise to filter and so on. We all wear lids because we've be conditioned to (and on the road it's law anyway of course) never to ride without one, but the fact is it's no more or less important than any other decision we make regarding our safety while riding.

Declaring that wearing a lid is by far and away the most important thing you can do to avoid ever injuring yourself not only makes you sound like an sanctimonious ****, it also shows a profound lack of judgment.

JimmyG
26-07-08, 08:46 PM
thats a sad story, who cares who was right or wrong. someone died needlesly. RIP

ging6996
27-07-08, 05:38 PM
[quote=Daimo;1578465]

"Don't know them, don't really care, and i find it comical so many "dedicated" people defending someone they don't know and isn't even alive anymore. In fact, Tim is the only one who has any real connection in any way, yet he has not slandered me for having an opinion, mearly posting the facts he knows. But all those that don't even know the lad, well, its easy to fire insuls behined a keyboard I guess."


like i said if it was one or your kids how would you feel. would you say to your mrs ow our lad/lass is dead but it was there own fault .

you say its easy to say stuff behind keyboard.

why dont you knock on the dead lads door n tell his mum or dad what you have put on here?

id like to see you after.

i aint sayin follow the crowd. but maybe you should keep ya gob shut because you seem to insult quite a few people. n id dont take a genious to figure out wat you put would offend/upset people.

weather you wear a lid or not, not many people expect some wire across the road, field etc

no one deserves to die aspecially inocent (although a bit stupid) people dont deserve to die.

i just hope it dont happen again n people wear the right gear n people learn from the poor lad.

n i hope you shut up to!

graham

AndyW
28-07-08, 10:36 AM
Declaring that wearing a lid is by far and away the most important thing you can do to avoid ever injuring yourself not only makes you sound like an sanctimonious ****, it also shows a profound lack of judgment.

Years ago (probably 10+), I was reading an American bike mag back when they were fighting helmet laws (ABATE) where it was stated wearing a helmet increases the chance of an accident by restricting vision and hearing. They were claiming that more lives would be saved by not wearing helmets than were saved by wearing them.

Not saying that is true (especially as helmet design has probably changed in the last 10 years) but it makes for an interesting thought.

yorkie_chris
28-07-08, 05:36 PM
No it's b0llocks to be fair.

IMO if you don't like wearing helmets, have the balls to say "I accept the risks of not wearing a lid and choose not to" rather than making up a load of bull about why it's safer.

I reckon the right to choose between lid and not lid is fine, so long as you have private healthcare so as not to burden everyone else with plopping your brains back into your skull...

Anyway yet another odd tangent...

lukemillar
28-07-08, 11:40 PM
No it's b0llocks to be fair.

IMO if you don't like wearing helmets, have the balls to say "I accept the risks of not wearing a lid and choose not to" rather than making up a load of bull about why it's safer.

I reckon the right to choose between lid and not lid is fine, so long as you have private healthcare so as not to burden everyone else with plopping your brains back into your skull...

Anyway yet another odd tangent...

I semi-agree. If the law stated that lids were not compulsory, would it change people opinion on this incident? After all, it is a choice, and as Sid Squid pointed out, some people consider it to be an unacceptable risk to climb on a motorbike in the first place - helmet or no helmet!

As for the health care argument - that is cr@p! The same point could be argued for every single person who smokes, or eats fatty foods, or doesn't exercise.

yorkie_chris
28-07-08, 11:59 PM
Yes, it is crap, but it does avoid all the people who say "you shouldn't have freedom of choice, because it burdens people who don't want to choose"

Anyway, this incident isn't anything to do with the law as it happened somewhere not on a public highway, so no helmet laws apply.

Off topic, sorry.

RIP lad. Could have easily been me a few years ago.

lukemillar
29-07-08, 06:02 AM
Off topic, sorry.

RIP lad. Could have easily been me a few years ago.

Yep

Terrible loss - RIP

ivantate
29-07-08, 06:16 AM
I dont want to see people die from riding bikes, especially when it is does deliberately. Its akin to someone dumping oil on a bend in a 30 zone.

Should this guy have actually been riding there at all?
It annoys me when kids on crossers go ripping up footpaths, bridleways etc. Dumping the clutch at every opportunity etc... . Unliscensed riders mixing it with families, pets, changing terrain on a bit of single track is always going to end in tears.
And the helmet argument, is a no brainer.

I have always ridden off road around home but know every farmer, generally use a quiet bike and stay well away from the walking routes and not had any problems.
If i want to let rip i have to go somewhere else.

Red Herring
29-07-08, 07:58 AM
How many of the persons posting so passionately on here currently have teenage sons (or daughters) who tear around on field bikes? It's all very well remembering what we did as kids but we only remember how we saw things through our teenage eyes, sometimes it's hard to alter our view to an adult perspective.
My 13 year old son is lucky enough to have a Pit bike and I'm lucky enough to have a big enough garden for him to ride around in. His mates come round and have a go, and one of them has just persuaded his dad to get him his own bike. The problem is that lad lives in the middle of a housing estate and the first I knew he'd got the bike was when he turned up at the house having ridden it here across the estate and then through the woods. He and I had words....I then lent him a spare helmet and he now keeps the bike at my place. Point is his parents hadn't even considered making him wear a helmet or where he could ride it when they bought him the bike. It's not the lads fault, it's a lack of education.
Ps: There's a final twist. We're off to the local Kart track this morning so my son can ride there (he has a set of supermoto wheels/tyres for it as well) and his mate wanted to come. I pointed out he is going to need some proper safety gear to ride there. He tells me he has it all at home cos he goes on the back of his dads road bike sometimes, just his dad doesn't want him to use it off road in case he damages it when he falls off!

yorkie_chris
29-07-08, 05:11 PM
doesn't want him to use it off road in case he damages it when he falls off!

Does he oil the brake pads to cut down on wear too?

ging6996
29-07-08, 06:17 PM
How many of the persons posting so passionately on here currently have teenage sons (or daughters) who tear around on field bikes? It's all very well remembering what we did as kids but we only remember how we saw things through our teenage eyes, sometimes it's hard to alter our view to an adult perspective.
My 13 year old son is lucky enough to have a Pit bike and I'm lucky enough to have a big enough garden for him to ride around in. His mates come round and have a go, and one of them has just persuaded his dad to get him his own bike. The problem is that lad lives in the middle of a housing estate and the first I knew he'd got the bike was when he turned up at the house having ridden it here across the estate and then through the woods. He and I had words....I then lent him a spare helmet and he now keeps the bike at my place. Point is his parents hadn't even considered making him wear a helmet or where he could ride it when they bought him the bike. It's not the lads fault, it's a lack of education.
Ps: There's a final twist. We're off to the local Kart track this morning so my son can ride there (he has a set of supermoto wheels/tyres for it as well) and his mate wanted to come. I pointed out he is going to need some proper safety gear to ride there. He tells me he has it all at home cos he goes on the back of his dads road bike sometimes, just his dad doesn't want him to use it off road in case he damages it when he falls off!







ow i love that last bit. dont wear your safety gear incase it gets damaged!!!.

thats a good lesson.

just say he carnt use it with u or at urs without the gear. its your rules init.

graham

timwilky
11-02-13, 04:16 PM
Just to update this.


A company will be prosecuted after a teenager was thrown off his motorbike and died.

17-year-old Ryan Acaster from Chorley was riding his 110cc off road-bike when it hit a metal cable strung between two trees.

The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) is taking legal action against JA Jones and Sons (Churchtown) Ltd after the incident on the Hesketh Estate in Crossens, Southport, on July 20, 2008.

Ryan was thrown from his bike and suffered fatal head injuries.

JA Jones and Sons (Churchtown) Ltd - a tenant on the Hesketh Estate - has been charged with breaching Section 3(1) of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.

The charge relates to failing to ensure the safety of people visiting the estate.

The company, of Bankfield Lane in Churchtown, is due to appear before Liverpool Magistrates’ Court on Thursday, February 14 for the first hearing in the case.

rb8989
11-02-13, 04:32 PM
I rode a pit bike without a lid around a field about 10 years ago. It was great and I don't feel I did anything wrong.

A cyclist died riding down a famously big hill round here last year. He had no lid, but likewise he wasn't breaking the law. He just came off and hit his head.

Considering that wire may have just been part of the terrain for a legitimate reason, the kid has basically fallen off and died which is awful news.

We all love riding bikes and if I had the permission I would be riding dirt bikes every chance I had! Instead I got a road legal sumo but I disgress.

Poor kid and poor family.

Biker Biggles
11-02-13, 06:24 PM
Interesting how many posters on this thread dont seem to frequent the org any more.

timwilky
11-02-13, 08:57 PM
BB, yes it is interesting that we have lost so many.

Back on subject, I would guess the HSE has decided that the tenant would have known the public used this track in deciding to block access with the use of a cable across the track. And that they were negligent in that they did not take any steps to prevent a member of the public being injured by installing that cable.

In some ways they were dammed either way. Assuming Ryan had ridden into a tree and died as a result would they face the same charge in that they had failed to ensure his safety by not preventing his unauthorised access?

timwilky
13-09-13, 05:51 PM
Well just to finish this off


Southport fatal bike crash: Firm ordered to pay £100,000

Continue reading the main story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24083732#story_continues_1) Related Stories



Firm charged over fatal bike crash (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21420374)
Inquiry into motorbike crash wire (http://www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7518856.stm)
Teenager dies in dirt bike crash (http://www.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/7516910.stm)


A firm has been told to pay £100,000 over the death of a teenager who came off his motorbike when it struck a metal cable strung between two trees.
Ryan Acaster, 17, from Brinscall, near Chorley, fell off his trial bike when he hit the wire on a track off New Lane in Crossens, Southport, in July 2008.
JA Jones and Sons (Churchtown) Ltd admitted breaching health and safety legislation at Liverpool Crown Court.
The Banks-based firm said a "no access" sign on the cable had been stolen.
The Health and Safety Executive brought the prosecution against the company because it failed to ensure the site was safe for visitors.
Ryan had been riding his 110cc off-road bike when it hit the cable. He was thrown from it and suffered fatal head injuries.
The company was fined £50,000 and ordered to pay just over £50,000 in court costs.


Seems a shame that it took over 5 years to get a conviction

hardhat_harry
13-09-13, 08:24 PM
Just been reading this on the Liverpool Echo's site.

In the comments bit some people are so narrow minded when it comes to off road motorcycles