Irresponsible bike riders

[Dicky Ticker]

Last night on the way home in the car nearly ran into two of them riding without lights. These were not kids but mature adults with racing gear on
but either dark or grey colours. One of them was riding on the A12 and the other local in an unlit lane. Just where do cyclists get off flaunting the law?
It really peeves me that if I collide with one of them or serve and have an accident ,damaging my car or m/bike the are not insured and would probably just carry on regardless

[fizzwheel]

What time was it ?

[the_lone_wolf]

It really peeves me that if I collide with one of them or serve and have an accident ,damaging my car or m/bike the are not insured and would probably just carry on regardless

that's why you have to make sure they don't get up;)

[Dicky Ticker]

I have just had a reply to a thread I posted but it is no longer on idle banter.
Where has it gone?

Reply to the question asked, About 9:15-9:20pm

[fizzwheel]

My bad I had a sense of humour failure I deleted it.

I cycle, I cycle alot. I'm fedup with sweepnig generalisations and random statements and how the media like to make cyclists out the be the black sheep amongst road users and I object to be sterotyped because I'm a cyclist.

Ok so at 9:15, 9:20pm its on its way to getting dark, I'm not sure what the regulations are regarding lighting up at night. I believe its around dusk time though.

I agree its probably not wise riding about when its getting dark, but its the generalisations about "flouting the law" and the same old tired "No tax, no insurance" remarks that get my goat.

[K]

I have to say that I'm in both camps, kinda.

I do find your average joe on a bike who runs red lights, mounts the pavement seemingly on a whim and has no insurance to be someone I detest on the road (or the aforementioned pavement ;))...

... but my brother cycles alot. His gear costs alot, his bike costs a hell of a lot...

... and though he pays no road tax he at least does have insurance coverage. Not just of theft or damage to his bike, but also liability cover in case of an accident.
Now during the few coversations we've had about the percieved menace to the road using society made by uninsured cyclists, he tells me that many you see in full kit and caboodle are more than likely to actually be insured.

Take that as you will, but it has made me rethink my perceptions and generalisations regarding cyclists...


... like motorcyclists I guess, they're not all bad.;)

[sv-robo]

The only thing that pee's me off about cyclists is when they ride 2/3/4 abreast & hold up the rest of the traffic who can't get past(at the end of the day,their not taxed ..i am)so i can't be blamed for the odd time i've riden close up & slapped them on the back of the head.:mad:

STICK TO YOUR CYCLE LANE!!!(if there is one)

[fizzwheel]

The only thing that pee's me off about cyclists is when they ride 2/3/4 abreast & hold up the rest of the traffic who can't get past(at the end of the day,their not taxed ..i am)so i can't be blamed for the odd time i've riden close up & slapped them on the back of the head.:mad:

STICK TO YOUR CYCLE LANE!!!(if there is one)

I agree with the 2 or 3 abreast thing. But I'm interested in what benefit to the general road user populace / societ you think that taxing pedal bikes would bring.

[hovis]

horses should not be allowed on the roads

[Grinch]

That's a bit of a sweeping statement.

[StreetHawk]

horses should not be allowed on the roads

Agreed. Why don't their owners have to shovel their **** up like dog owners do?

[simesb]

But I'm interested in what benefit to the general road user populace / societ you think that taxing pedal bikes would bring.

Surely the same as road tax for motorbikes/cars/lorries? Cycle lanes ain't free!

But seriously, enforcement would cost more than raised, and it's not practical for children to have to pay. The only problem I have with pushbikes, is when they are on the pavement - pavements are for pedestrians. Kind of falls into the same category as pushchairs being shoved into the traffic at crossings to make drivers stop.

[fizzwheel]

Surely the same as road tax for motorbikes/cars/lorries? Cycle lanes ain't free!

Yes but cycle lanes are'nt maintained to the same standard a road is either...

The ones I use a pot holed, the surface is bad and breaking up in places, also they are dual use so I have to contend with pedestrians, dog owners etc etc

Sometimes I feel safer riding in the road !!!

[Dicky Ticker]

I just think it would be beneficial if they were registered as on the continent and perhaps have some sort of liability insurance whether it be part of household insurance while I have no wish to stop chidren on bikes the people in this instance were adults,probably members of a cycling club judging by their attire and equipment[lycra cycling shorts and tops]
Cycling is a good health sport and I often use a bike to pop down the town

[the_lone_wolf]

The ones I use a pot holed, the surface is bad and breaking up in places, also they are dual use so I have to contend with pedestrians, dog owners etc etc
you just described 95% of the road network down here;)

[Woz]

horses should not be allowed

That's more like it.

[Warthog]

I think road sweeping machines should be kept off the road!! :lol:

That's a bit of a sweeping statement.

[Lissa]

horses should not be allowed on the roads

Horses were here long before any other form of transport:p

Agreed. Why don't their owners have to shovel their **** up like dog owners do?

If you can't see a huge steaming pile of sh*t in the road then your obs need working on:p

[hovis]

Horses were here long before any other form of transport:p



so were dinosaurs.

[gettin2dizzy]

The only thing that pee's me off about cyclists is when they ride 2/3/4 abreast & hold up the rest of the traffic who can't get past(at the end of the day,their not taxed ..i am)so i can't be blamed for the odd time i've riden close up & slapped them on the back of the head.:mad:
!(if there is one)
:lol:

Chill out! Give the hippies a break. Tax the people who are using the cheapest form of transport?
What's next on the agenda? Tax walking? Bright idea! While we're at it, lets charge the homeless 'pavement rent'.

Quite the opposite should happen. Keep cycling free and build them a decent cycle network comparable to those you find abroad. The more people out of cars, the more room there is on the roads. It's a simple as that.

horses should not be allowed on the roads
They could wear nappies

[Lissa]

so were dinosaurs.

When did you last ride a dinosaur?

On second thoughts, I don't want to know:p