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Filipe M.
11-08-08, 04:39 PM
Okay, this one is just a rant / vent, just seen on the news that a rider was killed downtown when he crashed against an ambulance that didn't stop for the red light.
The ambulance was on emergency service, which gives them the right to run red lights, but AFAIK, according to our highway code, only after stopping and making sure they're not endangering anyone, then proceeding with caution. Eye witnesses state this was clearly not the case. 24 year old guy on a CBR didn't stand a chance, died at the scene. :mad:
RIP.
kwak zzr
11-08-08, 04:51 PM
keep your eyes peeled guys and gals everyone on the road is out to get you! think that way and it increases your chances, RIP to the rider of the CBR :(
RIP.
In the case mentionned, you said "highway code" - here, that differs from Law. Could be that the ambulance drivers did nothing wrong, and it was just an unfortunate accident. Something not for me to decide.
Jayneflakes
11-08-08, 05:03 PM
Something not for me to decide.
Thankfully few of us will ever have to face a situation like this, my thoughts go out to the riders family and to the driver of the Ambulance. No one in their position would want to cause an accident while getting to somewhere their help was needed.
Another sad statistic to file away with the others.
Biker Biggles
11-08-08, 05:39 PM
Where did this happen?
Emergency vehicles have certain exemptions from the rules under certain circumstances,but are in no way exempt from the law.What this means is that the vehicle may legally cross a red light,but only if there is no chance of an accident.If the ambulance was doing any more than a walking pace the driver will be looking at serious criminal charges.
Filipe M.
11-08-08, 05:48 PM
Where did this happen?
Emergency vehicles have certain exemptions from the rules under certain circumstances,but are in no way exempt from the law.What this means is that the vehicle may legally cross a red light,but only if there is no chance of an accident.If the ambulance was doing any more than a walking pace the driver will be looking at serious criminal charges.
That's also the case over here AFAIK (Portugal). Another sad story :(
Oh ****. What a sad sad tragic event.
Older I get, more I think you gotta enjoy every minute cos you don't know when your turn's coming. So I try to live for today and I try not to worry about tomorrow. Not easy as I'm one of life's fretters.
tanis34
11-08-08, 07:24 PM
all emergency drivers must treat red lights as a give way when on a call out
If the ambulance was doing any more than a walking pace the driver will be looking at serious criminal charges.
Very true that point.
Ch00
RIP CBR rider.
Full inquest I reckon will be on the cards.
My last house was directly on the A2 in Kent and there was a pelican crossing about 100 yards up the road near the school. I once witnessed a Police car shoot through a red light between the children at no less than 50mph. WTF do they think they are doing sometimes, there really could not have been any call to justify that driving.
Another lesson to be very aware in all situations regardless of how safe we think they are. S**t happens be safe everybody.
appollo1
12-08-08, 12:54 AM
I am a First Responder (volunteer working in conjuction with the Scottish Ambulance Service) we attend emergency calls on Blue Lights and as a motorcyclist i would like to think that I am more aware than most about motorbikes on the road.
My sympathies go to the family of the rider and also to the Ambulance driver who is highly trained and am sure will be extremely upset with this unfortunate accident.
Absolutely gutting that someone was killed by someone else (hopefully) on their way to try and save another life.
I think about this possibility a lot when I'm out on two wheels and I have ear plugs in, mostly on my way to the Soho meet.
RIP fella.
(Kicks the crap out of me every time I read about a downed biker)
DanDare
12-08-08, 08:56 AM
all emergency drivers must treat red lights as a give way when on a call out
Tis true! Speaking from experience, emergency vehicles are allowed to operate slightly outside the rules of the road so long as it doesn't in danger other road users.
I have been through many red lights whilst responding to a call, the important thing here is you do check that it is safe to do so.
The grey area here is that sometimes you assume people have seen and heard you, which more often is the case that they haven't.
well at leat the paramedics were there straight away!!
Sucks big time. I feel for all parties concerned. I am quite sure the paramedics do the job they do for the love of the job, not for the money. He/she must be devastated to have the knowledge in the course of their job, they have actually taken a life instead of saving one. So tragically sad. :sad:
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