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At the moment I'm in the process of moving into a 3-bed house with two of my friends, one I currently live with and another guy whose tenancy runs out within 5 days of ours. Made the decision for more room and more money between us.
My current flatmate found out that a house just across the road from ours was going on the market, as one of his exes lives there, and would be ideal for us (3 double-bedrooms+large garage). After weeks of prodding, he finally got the name of the lettings agency that the house was under from her.
She moved out on Friday, so I was on the phone to the lettings agency on Monday. Had a long conversation with them trying to sort things out, then they said there'd be someone inspecting the property later that day, and that I could view it and discuss things with her then. Did that, and managed to negotiate on her with rent to keep it the same as it has for the past year (whereas our property's rent is going up £50), and as a result of this we're now £100/mo under our rent budget, which is a massive bonus.
Today I drove around in a thunderstorm getting bits and bobs, getting money together to put down bond+admin fees to make sure we get the house, paying for all three of us in one go as the other two have no money till payday.
After doing all this, I decided I should get something back (particularly since I can't do anything till payday now, having shelled £150 on admin fees for the other two guys), so said that I'm having first pick of the bedrooms in the new house. The guy who's not living with me right now was fine with this. My flatmate, however, kicked up a massive fuss, saying that it's not fair for me to just declare the room I'm having, and that we should draw straws. I mentioned that I was putting myself out, and he retorted with the fact that he could have got money together anytime by borrowing from his dad and sorted it all himself. My counter-argument was that, if that was the case, why didn't he do this before I put myself in my overdraft.
All our friends don't want to get involved with this argument to avoid being stuck in the middle, so wise .org, is it unfair of me, having stumped up a total of £475 and done a shedload of work to have first pick of rooms?
dizzyblonde
12-08-08, 09:12 PM
tell him to go and put his dummy back in and climb back in his pram:smt094
you did all the ground work, and gambled with your money....you should get pick of the rooms......
nope you get fair and square first dibs.. if he wanted first dibs on rooms he could have gotten off his backside!!
Wayluya
12-08-08, 09:16 PM
STart off the house share with an argument? Cool :cool:
I am guessing one bedroom is far better.........if so, stick to yer guns :p, unless he coughs up the cash. now.
I would also not have told the others about the lower rent......:smt030
just move in and tell him to .....
STart off the house share with an argument? Cool :cool:
I am guessing one bedroom is far better.........if so, stick to yer guns :p, unless he coughs up the cash. now.
I would also not have told the others about the lower rent......:smt030
We currently share a flat with arguments brewing there over him doing no housework, so it's all good on the argument front ;)
To be honest, it's not so much that it's far better as it has an en-suite. It's top-floor and very oddly shaped, but I can make use of it due to having a piano that'll fit perfectly where nothing else really will. There's another bedroom in the house that's the same size, but it's a plain rectangle with no en-suite. The last room is the smallest, and nobody really wants it. My real worry is ending up in the smallest room having put in all the work if it goes to straws!
Lower-rent news is unavoidable - we're setting up a joint-account to avoid people not paying their share of things ;)
Tell him to stop being a ***** and that the bedroom is yours since you went to the trouble of sorting everything out for them..
edit: I don't think I'd cope to well in a shared house, I'm far too intolerant :p
Is it really worth falling out over? I don't think so. Swallow your pride. And be sure to cheat when you come to draw straws. Or have a deal that you swap round after 6 months.
fat_brstd
12-08-08, 10:06 PM
If one room is so much better then that person should be paying more rent. An en-suite = more cash in my book especially if the room is then bigger than the other 2. In my current house share we have 3 rooms all the same size and 1 box room, the box room is cheeper than the others cause it wouldnt be fair to get someone to spend the same as I do to only have 2/3 the space.
If you all agree that you should all pay the same then I would say draw straws or better a game of monopoly where you get to be the banker.
Offered to pay more rent, was a no-go. I thought this was an ideal solution, but... :P
I say give him the room at an increased rent, then shoot him and leave him outside for the badgers to feed off, but not before he's stumped up the first month's rent in advance.
I say give him the room at an increased rent, then shoot him and leave him outside for the badgers to feed off, but not before he's stumped up the first month's rent in advance.
why does that not surprise me coming from you ;)
If the other person doesn't move in with you because of the room situation, can you afford the increased rent?
Can he afford it if you don't move in?
You've done the ground work. You've stumped up the cash. Now you've offered to pay more rent. He's still not happy. Tell him to 'do one' and move in any way, miserable so & so...doesn't know which side his bread's buttered etc etc..
Problem now is he won't be happy until he's got what he wants....:smt062
I've recently moved into a shared house with a friend of 20 odd years (very odd in my case). We get on great, everything runs smooth and the bills get paid on time, mainly because we have a lot of respect for each other.
In my last place we had 3 people sharing a 4 bed place - a couple and myself. That worked out fine with a joint account to pay all bills and designated chores for those living there. One of mine was cleaning the kitchen daily, including all washing up etc. I couldn't cook, so had to do something kitchen related. Care of our personal rooms (bedroom and office in my case) was down to the occupant of those rooms and communal areas were cared for by one of the others weekly as a part of their chores list.
That worked out very well.
You've done the ground work. You've stumped up the cash. Now you've offered to pay more rent. He's still not happy. Tell him to 'do one' and move in any way, miserable so & so...doesn't know which side his bread's buttered etc etc..
If this is the case, and he's a lazy ar5ed twonk who doesn't do housework then I'd be inclined to tell him to take a hike. There are thousands of people looking for shared accomodation, you won't have trouble finding someone who'll be a pleasure to share with.
One of mine was cleaning the kitchen daily, including all washing up etc.
:smt005:smt044sorry you wash up HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahah..... your house trained???? HAHAHAHAhahahahahaha:smt043
I take offence at that, young lady. I absolutely love washing up, it's one of my perverse pleasures.
It just so happens that I am one of the most domesticated males you are ever likely to meet. My house is spotless and my low level OCD means everything has its place and is in that place. I am even learning to cook proper meals rather than one-man microwave jobs.
I take offence at that, young lady. I absolutely love washing up, it's one of my perverse pleasures.
It just so happens that I am one of the most domesticated males you are ever likely to meet. My house is spotless and my low level OCD means everything has its place and is in that place. I am even learning to cook proper meals rather than one-man microwave jobs.
fantastic when you've finished there then i have a stack of washing up to do and if your cooking even better ;)
Tell him to sling his hook the lazy idle git and then advertise the last room, you should get that rented piece of p for the balance of the rent.
fantastic when you've finished there then i have a stack of washing up to do and if your cooking even better ;)
What are the sleeping arrangements? You on left or right?
What are the sleeping arrangements? You on left or right?
five, four, three, two, one... back in the room....
As I was saying, my cat has worms
five, four, three, two, one... back in the room....
...and breathe....:D
I think your flatmates right. He can also claim to some leg work at the beginning which scuppers your plan. You probably should have checked before assuming you get the pick of the rewards for your hard work. Toss a coin or as Ed mentioned work out a compromise.
Sorry :)
I think your flatmates right. He can also claim to some leg work at the beginning which scuppers your plan.
If by "legwork" you mean his ex- mentioned in passing conversation, "oh yeah, we're moving out just before your tenancy comes up", then sure. Except that as of today, the property was advertised, so me or the other guy who'd done all the house-hunting would've seen it today ;)
If by "legwork" you mean his ex- mentioned in passing conversation, "oh yeah, we're moving out just before your tenancy comes up", then sure. Except that as of today, the property was advertised, so me or the other guy who'd done all the house-hunting would've seen it today ;)
Seems he was the ideas man though... and you cant take that away from him. Otherwise I would def agree with you.
don't invite him and get some one else who you can charge more rent for... or may be his Ex... just to rub salt into the wound...
(did I really just say that on an open forum... arr well no.2 happen)
Mr Speirs
13-08-08, 11:49 AM
It seems like he, in his head, feels that he has an increased stake in the house as his ex lived there and he started the ball rolling.
However £475 is a lot of money and so be fair it take a lot more effort keeping the ball rolling than starting it.
Tell him to quit whining, you call shotgun on the room and if he complains kick him in the nads like a grown up would do :)
P.S. Whenever things like this come up with me I am also normally the one who subs everyone else. Sometimes people don't realise that you are not just subbing them but everyone else also. I had to fork out almost £900 on my current flat in admin n deposit and I still have to share my room. Aint girlfriends a pain in the ****? :)
Spiderman
13-08-08, 01:12 PM
Sorry, havent time to read all the posts but i would suggest that ou decided on various prices for the rooms. So the one with the ensuite pays x amount more than their share and that x amount is how much less the person in the smallest room pays. the middle room pays the going rate.
That way everyones a winner. Nearly.
Now for all my fabulous advice i want your garage please :D
Jayneflakes
13-08-08, 01:27 PM
Find out which room his ex lived in and then spray it with something foul. :rolleyes:
My bet is that he wants her old room, so he can mope in self pitying gloom and hope to find some of her old clothes to cuddle up to at night. :(
You could also hide prawns in the curtains and wait for him to complain about the stench and then agree to swap rooms. You will quickly clean the room up and live contentedly in peace and acrimony. :smt094
Good luck, you will probably need it... :smt062
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