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chrisn
13-08-08, 10:17 AM
Hi,

My name is Chris and I'm a reporter for MCN (as well as a former SV650 owner).

We're doing a story on the 2009 SV650 (no real pictures as yet I'm afraid), but we'd like to know what owners and enthusiasts would like from the new bike?

It can be anything from heated grips to Volvo-seeking missiles - just let me know at chris.newbigging@motorcyclenews.com, and post them on here obviously.

Thanks folks!

Chris Newbigging

Tomtoms
13-08-08, 10:26 AM
did last years model have a clock on the digital display?

Im a 2000 curvey owner so dont know!

But a digital clock would be good.

G
13-08-08, 10:28 AM
A re-design of the body work. Most manufacturers change every 2 years, the SV has been the same for 5 years.

Slightly more power, say 90-95bhp, gets it abit nearer its competitors but insurance still cheap and still good for first timers.

Ever so slightly better suspension....its 5 years old now.....I'm sure a newer improved front/rear suspension unit that was expensive 5 years ago can now be affordable on the SV.

chakraist
13-08-08, 10:33 AM
Hmm... as I'm sure you're aware there's a large debate on the site as to whether or not the pointy (03+) or curvy (99-02) model is better. So the opinions on looks will probably differ according to that. I for one really, really hope they don't just stick the cyclops light/GSX-R similar fairings on and call it the upgraded sport version.

I'm sure for most people the main thing will be upgrading the suspension- although with many of us running GSX-R front ends, if the suspension is upgraded but remains 'budget', a lot of owners in the long run will still choose to upgrade.

I'd like to see a new model, an 'R' model perhaps with decent suspension + better brakes at a higher price point for those who want to spend a little bit more, like Triumph have done with the Street R.

I think a few people on the forum would like an upgraded engine, maybe a 750cc version making 10-20 more bhp. That would be quite a treat. Although Dangerous Dave on the forum here has sv currently at 800cc making 109bhp...


p.s. Looking forwards to the outlandish mockup!

Dangerous Dave
13-08-08, 12:39 PM
Chassis - The original Curvy frame back please, a slight suspension improvement for the front (whether using uprated current or budget down GSXR), and a big improvement over the rear shock.

Styling - Something Curvy but modern, no stupid exhaust like the current GSXR's though.

Engine - For what the SV is designed to do and the people it is aimed at, it does the job very well.

nakedblue650
13-08-08, 12:57 PM
More power!

Modern headlight! See below

Suspension improvements! (Vague - anything would be!)

Decent stock tyres!

More compact exhaust!

Adjustable clutch lever!

Fuel guage! Not just a 30 mile warning light!

Clock modification to poss. twin clocks!

Alarm / immobiliser!

PIcture of above machine!

Surface-to-surface Chelsea tractor missile system!

Preferably nought % finance!

And I want it now with no cost burden to purchaser!

Can you make it happen?

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n344/bbadger101/sv650.jpg

BBadger
13-08-08, 01:04 PM
yey my bikes in here ! =] /\

- a change in plastics and tank.
- new headlight ( like mine )
- better mirrors
- hide the down pipe some how .... maybe stubby or under side exhaust like gsxr 06 or ER6 ones.
- colour schemes would be nice aswell

- mother school run radar system !

nakedblue650
13-08-08, 01:11 PM
Hi BB

Had to use you as an example! And I have one now but not fitted yet!

A limited edition racing colours one with all my previous suggestions on!

nb650

Grinch
13-08-08, 01:11 PM
I've been involved in a MCN story before, and to be honest, while the bike has many things that we would like to improve the most important I think is the suspension. While it might easy cope with lighter people, for myself the stock setup leaves something to be desired.
Maybe a bit more power would be nice too.

BBadger
13-08-08, 01:17 PM
i like being the example ...makes me feel wanted !

This whole suspension lark ... maybe i got the best sv suspension ever but turn it up full and 2 up it wouldnt even compress on the rear and the front was almost solid.

so someone please explain this to me.

also a little sign that pops up on the back that gives people the finger ( U KNOW UD USE IT )

fizzwheel
13-08-08, 01:24 PM
Fix the wobbly front suspension, and maybe a bodywork re-design, but otherwise leave it alone.

For the money, and what it is, its pretty much spot on.

You start mucking about with alot of power gains or bling fancy GSXR suspension and its going to push the price up and thats one of the bikes strong points. Its hell of alot of bike for not much money. Dont go mad with it, and dont turn it into a Ducati 749 / 848 wannabe its not what the SV is about IMHO.

nakedblue650
13-08-08, 01:24 PM
This whole suspension lark ... maybe i got the best sv suspension ever but turn it up full and 2 up it wouldnt even compress on the rear and the front was almost solid.

Maybe but I probably out weigh you and your missus!:D:D:D

Grinch
13-08-08, 01:33 PM
Maybe they should add another bike to the line up, something not as juicy as the SV1000 but with a bit more power and better suspension over the budget 650, the SV750.

BBadger
13-08-08, 01:36 PM
17 NO MISSIUS thank god. its why i love bikes i can always get rid of it ...hard to get rid of gf's !

but still doesnt make sence as it was me and my dad probly around 25 stone and almost no movement in the suspension.

tidy tails could be another good thing to thrown in out of the factory.

fizzwheel
13-08-08, 01:36 PM
the SV750.

I wouldnt buy that, I'd just go and buy a Duke 749 or 848 if I was in the market for a faster, sportier twin.

Dangerous Dave
13-08-08, 01:42 PM
I wouldnt buy that, I'd just go and buy a Duke 749 or 848 if I was in the market for a faster, sportier twin.
No comment...

Dangerous Dave
13-08-08, 01:43 PM
You start mucking about with alot of power gains or bling fancy GSXR suspension and its going to push the price up and thats one of the bikes strong points. Its hell of alot of bike for not much money.
+ 1

Viney
13-08-08, 01:55 PM
I have owned my sv for 8 years now and to be honest its pretty spot on for a 4 grand bike.

Slightly better and more adjustable suspension would be nice and a better headlight. Not a different one, but one thats better designed and has a far better beam pattern/saturation of the road, a slightly better seat, a longer front fender or better front spark plug protection and better build quality overall other than that i think its pretty bang on the money. The curvey and pointy SV are both excellent bikes for the cash. As poeple say, start changing everything then it goes up in value or down in quality (Cant really go further down at times).

I like the fact that some poeple want the world for £4000! I have covered 57000 miles on doris and it still to this day brings a smile to my face.

Oh just thought. If fuel injected, a 2 way switch, one map for economy and one for power. Would be good for commuters.

Grinch
13-08-08, 02:02 PM
I wouldnt buy that, I'd just go and buy a Duke 749 or 848 if I was in the market for a faster, sportier twin.

But that requires a few more grand which people might not have, plus those bike could not be compared back to back and most people would not be happy about riding a 748 as a commuter. I know I wouldn't...

If I had a choice of the SV750 and a SV1000 with at the most a grad more for each bike then I would likely got for the 750. While I would love the power of the 1000, my sensible head would say 750 as the better choice of the 2. Say this they might bring it out and it might be poo, but this is how I feel at the moment.

SoulKiss
13-08-08, 02:12 PM
The SV is classed as a Sports/Tourer with 3 models at the moment

The N - Naked

The S - Half-Faired

The Sport - the S with Fairing Lowers.

How about another 2 models

The F - which is just an N with a Bellypan and clip-ons

The T - which is an S but with hard luggage and flat bars - maybe with bar raisers, making it more of a tourer - it could have a different rear to incorporate the hard luggage which should be like that on a Deuville - ie part of the bike and so have a single seat like a bandit.

Put USD forks on all of them to diferentiate them from earllier models (and everyone seems to want those) and put a prettier swing-arm (like the curvies) rather than the plain box-section of the K3 onwards.

The S + N should come in at about £4,000, the Sport and F at about £4,400 and the T at about £4,500

dyzio
13-08-08, 02:17 PM
As everyone, better suspension! I can't believe how much effect was gained by £130 (progressives + zx shock) and a few hours in the garage.
Shape: it's getting quite old now... as Dave says, bring back the curvy frame, but I'm biased...
Power: I think I wouldn't mind a few extra horsies...
As Viney has already mentioned, a longer front fenda AND better protection for the front spark plug.

startrek.steve
13-08-08, 03:36 PM
Well I'd like higher touring bars and a comfier seat like my old cx500.
Also fuel & temp gauges (no, I dont want a pointy)and a bigger tank - 5 gallons would be nice.

BillyC
13-08-08, 03:40 PM
Slightly more power, say 90-95bhp, gets it abit nearer its competitors but insurance still cheap and still good for first timers.

What you're describing isn't an SV650... 650cc v-twin isn't going to make that much power without some engine redesign and manufacture; and if it did, it wouldn't be as cheap insurance as it is now. Sounds like you want a different bike.

krhall
13-08-08, 03:55 PM
longer front fender to get around the one cylinder in water issues some people have experienced.......

Biker Biggles
13-08-08, 03:56 PM
Put carbs on it and make it more curvy.
Everyone wants better suspension,and surely Suzuki could upgrade that at minimal cost?

SoulKiss
13-08-08, 03:58 PM
Put carbs on it and make it more curvy.
Everyone wants better suspension,and surely Suzuki could upgrade that at minimal cost?

Or steal the FI system off of a Z750

Some knowledgeable person said it feels just like carbs :)

Biker Biggles
13-08-08, 04:02 PM
I hope they dont borrow the Z750 rear shock as well.Its awful in true Kawasaki tradition.

Stu
13-08-08, 04:13 PM
Hi,

My name is Chris and I'm a reporter for MCN (as well as a former SV650 owner).

We're doing a story on the 2009 SV650 (no real pictures as yet I'm afraid), but we'd like to know what owners and enthusiasts would like from the new bike?

It can be anything from heated grips to Volvo-seeking missiles - just let me know at chris.newbigging@motorcyclenews.com, and post them on here obviously.

Thanks folks!

Chris Newbigging


You put the Honda VFR 1000 V5 on your cover and lead inside story complete with pictures and confirmed it would be available from 2009.
Whereas Honda have denied any intention to build it http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/honda_uk_we_have_no_plans_to_build_a_v5_road_bike/5272.html

I'd be amazed if I can place a deposit in my local Moto Select in 2 months time.

You'll only print that the suggestions you get off here are the gospel truth for what Suzuki have already got in production for the 2009 SV.

Yours respectfully
Stu

nakedblue650
13-08-08, 04:41 PM
Yours respectfully
Stu

:D

Well Stu did answer the question - 2009 SV650 - what would you like? and it seems he would like the man with this question to go away!:D

I take you would be keen on a VFR 1000 if it existed?

nb650

Lozzo
13-08-08, 04:54 PM
Can you start printing MCN on slightly softer paper please, the stuff you currently use plays havoc with my Chalfonts

Lozzo
13-08-08, 05:06 PM
You put the Honda VFR 1000 V5 on your cover and lead inside story complete with pictures and confirmed it would be available from 2009.
Whereas Honda have denied any intention to build it http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/honda_uk_we_have_no_plans_to_build_a_v5_road_bike/5272.html

I'd be amazed if I can place a deposit in my local Moto Select in 2 months time.

You'll only print that the suggestions you get off here are the gospel truth for what Suzuki have already got in production for the 2009 SV.

Yours respectfully
Stu

A cheeky little scam involving some of my friends on usenet, a lazy MCN journo and 'officially sourced' rumours of supercharged Honda V-twins comes to mind here.

Dangerous Dave
13-08-08, 05:15 PM
What you're describing isn't an SV650... 650cc v-twin isn't going to make that much power without some engine redesign and manufacture; and if it did, it wouldn't be as cheap insurance as it is now.
It would, just as cheap as standard.

longer front fender to get around the one cylinder in water issues some people have experienced.......
Having problems??? ;)

rowdy
13-08-08, 05:39 PM
Suspension needs sorting, front brakes need to be stronger, some clocks that don't start going haywire and please Suzuki put some grease in at the factory. Even though I own a pointy I do prefer the look of the curvy's frame. Oh and we don't want them great big lumps of plastic hanging out the back of the bike for the number plate to mount on even if we can stand our mugs of tea on them. Other than that great bike.

Dangerous Dave
13-08-08, 05:42 PM
front brakes need to be stronger
Nothing wrong with the SV brakes, they are more than enough for the bike.

rob13
13-08-08, 07:43 PM
Personally dont think its bad on power; its certainly a very useable engine on the road.

I would simply ask for a re-style to bring it more up to date, with slightly better suspension as standard (Doesnt have to be top spec GSXR stuff).

Oh and for me, ill have a factory fitted airbag please :D

Jase22
13-08-08, 08:19 PM
Re-style required, and a little more care on the finish quality wouldn't go amiss. How's about some good colour choices too, plain colours are gash.

Lozzo
13-08-08, 08:23 PM
Re-style required, and a little more care on the finish quality wouldn't go amiss. How's about some good colour choices too, plain colours are gash.

I diagree, I think graphics on SVs look horrendous - I've seen some really nasty attempts at restyling them by adding multi-coloured paint schemes and graphics and all have failed. They are one of the few bikes that only suit plain colours.

Some bikes suit it, some don't; the SV is one of those that don't.

fizzwheel
13-08-08, 08:27 PM
Some bikes suit it, some don't; the SV is one of those that don't.

Agreed, its looks best in plain colours. Especially the K5 black frame with black bodywork.

I dont think it needs a restyle, its looks fine, it still looks modern and its a very easily recognisable bike, especially with the twin LED rear end. Its quite distinctive.

Its only really the soggy front end that needs tweaking and that'd be cheap enough for suzuki to do.

Jase22
13-08-08, 08:27 PM
I diagree, I think graphics on SVs look horrendous - I've seen some really nasty attempts at restyling them by adding multi-coloured paint schemes and graphics and all have failed. They are one of the few bikes that only suit plain colours.

Some bikes suit it, some don't; the SV is one of those that don't.

You have your opinion, I have mine. I personally find single colours dull. Anyway, I'm not talking about tacky red bull stickers or such like, cos that does look shat, but something would be better than nowt.

Grinch
13-08-08, 08:38 PM
But one colour is cheap...

Jase22
13-08-08, 08:40 PM
But one colour is cheap...

It's because it comes at the cost of style ;)

zunkus
13-08-08, 08:54 PM
I think the japs should look at what the europeans are doing. Take the Ducati monster range as an example. They start you off with a budget 695 if you want cheap(ish) but can buy a blingy S4RS. So more customised models direct from the factory. All the bikes should feature upside down forks now. Even my cheap hyosung daily cummute has them for christsakes and that's dirt cheap. They look better if not actually perform better and looks alone sell bikes as long as ther's nowt wrong with them. An under engine exhaust would be nice but I don't think it can fit easy and keep the ergonomics of the bike as they are. Would be nice though. Oh, the curvy shape is making a comeback.

TazDaz
13-08-08, 09:37 PM
I don't know what I'd like, but I'd sure like to know what it will be like considering my dealer has assured me I'll be able to ride my K9 from his shop in October... :)

rob13
13-08-08, 09:50 PM
I don't know what I'd like, but I'd sure like to know what it will be like considering my dealer has assured me I'll be able to ride my K9 from his shop in October... :)

Well if you've put yourself down for one now, then im sure itll just be much of the same. Any new model I doubt we'll see before the end of the winter. Just at the time I should be in the market for a new bike.

TazDaz
13-08-08, 09:54 PM
Well if you've put yourself down for one now, then im sure itll just be much of the same. Any new model I doubt we'll see before the end of the winter. Just at the time I should be in the market for a new bike.

Whilst I was in the shop the Suzuki guy for the area was there and said that the only change was colours. Apparantly there is a blue and a grey this time round. Maybe Suzuki are planning to update the SV in late 2009...who knows?

svdemon
13-08-08, 11:38 PM
Cartridge forks, 4 pot front brakes and a decent shock to make an "R" version - bootylicious

dizzyblonde
14-08-08, 07:04 AM
As 2009 would be the ten years mark for the SV:confused:...I would like to see a special edition curvy. Nobody else has asked for this..why not?

Within the beautiful original look, I would like to see:
an uprated suspension, as everyone ends up changing it cause its pants...both of mine have been.
A decent set of bulbs in the headlights
seat cowl as extra, supplied with bike on purchase...freee
a comfier stock seat
And a stock can that doesn't need changing in a hurry(cause the curvy can is just mingin and sounds rubbish), and doesn't look like someone has stuck a cornetto on the end of the downpipe
Braided hoses on the brakes, as the stock ones are more than adequate with these
Belly pan
Fender extenda
Some airhorns as standard....even when Suzys horn disintegrated, an Rd350 replacement was louder:evil:

Limited edition colour scheme should include a cadburys purple one for the laydeez:smt007


I would like it to keep the engine as it is, its a peach

Think that covers everything:rolleyes:

Dangerous Dave
14-08-08, 07:17 AM
I don't know what I'd like, but I'd sure like to know what it will be like considering my dealer has assured me I'll be able to ride my K9 from his shop in October... :)
If the 2009 model will be available then it will be identical to the 2008 model apart from colours. The fact is that the dealers know as much about a new SV as Suzuki GB, and that is the same as we know. Nothing!

TazDaz
14-08-08, 12:07 PM
If the 2009 model will be available then it will be identical to the 2008 model apart from colours. The fact is that the dealers know as much about a new SV as Suzuki GB, and that is the same as we know. Nothing!

I did ask him if there were any major changes...he said as far as he's aware it's only a colour change with the possibility of ABS...I guess it's just a waiting game.

I originally wanted a K8 Sport in Grey but was told I'd have to wait till half way through September before any were available. Then I was told that if I hold on a few more weeks I can have the K9 Sport...I just want my bike really! :-({|=

Stig
14-08-08, 12:29 PM
I diagree, I think graphics on SVs look horrendous - I've seen some really nasty attempts at restyling them by adding multi-coloured paint schemes and graphics and all have failed. They are one of the few bikes that only suit plain colours.

Some bikes suit it, some don't; the SV is one of those that don't.

Rubbish.



:lol:

dyzio
14-08-08, 12:38 PM
Rubbish.
:lol:

+1
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Suzuki_SV1000SZ.jpg

Viney
14-08-08, 12:40 PM
Rubbish.



:lol:
Agreed :)

As for Dangerous's comment on the brakes, couldnt agree more. They suit the bike and do a good job of hauling me and the bike to a stop.

rowdy
14-08-08, 12:52 PM
Nothing wrong with the SV brakes, they are more than enough for the bike.
Is that after you've fitted braided lines and decent pads? sorry I just don't like em compaired to my VFR's nissins

SoulKiss
14-08-08, 01:06 PM
Is that after you've fitted braided lines and decent pads? sorry I just don't like em compaired to my VFR's nissins

Erm what do you think are on the SV?

The Master Cylinder is provide by Nissin

So I am guessing the other parts are too - just like a lot of Jap bikes

Jase22
14-08-08, 01:11 PM
Is that after you've fitted braided lines and decent pads? sorry I just don't like em compaired to my VFR's nissins

The brakes are ok enough and have sufficient stopping power, the only issue I have with them is how frequently they seize.

If you've ridden bikes with better brakes, yes these are inferior, but certainly up to the task.

Jase22
14-08-08, 01:12 PM
Erm what do you think are on the SV?

The Master Cylinder is provide by Nissin

So I am guessing the other parts are too - just like a lot of Jap bikes

Calipers on SVs are Tokico...

Sosha
14-08-08, 03:04 PM
Better front suspension, Longer front mudguard.

Other than that nowt really except maybe a comfier seat.

rowdy
14-08-08, 03:08 PM
Erm what do you think are on the SV?

The Master Cylinder is provide by Nissin

So I am guessing the other parts are too - just like a lot of Jap bikes
Yes I find it odd that the master cylinder and rear caliper are nissin but the front caliper is tokico. I've also heard somewhere that better quality brake fluid also make the brakes feel better but I'm not sure if this is true.

Biker Biggles
14-08-08, 03:12 PM
Brake fluid that isnt several years old and half water improves them.

Dangerous Dave
14-08-08, 05:07 PM
Is that after you've fitted braided lines and decent pads?
No thats as standard, every brake system degrades over time and the SV's are no exception. Keeping them well maintained is the only thing that needs doing, service your brakes and you will be amazed at the difference.

The SV brakes are more than capable, you only need to opt for braided hoses when the old rubber ones start to soften and even then you could still go and fit a new set of rubber lines.

Most of the time it is down to rider technique/error, if you can't brake in time to hit the apex of a corner do you imediately blame the brakes? You shouldn't, you made the error on approach! Admitting your errors will make you a better rider, whether on the road or track.

rowdy
14-08-08, 05:51 PM
Aye but I'm compairing them to the brakes on my other 17 year old bike against the brakes on the sv that I bought brand new. Don't get me wrong they are not life threatening or anything, but the fella that started the thread was asking what we sv owners would like to see on a new model and I just feel that it's about time Suzuki slapped some four pot calipers on it, I'm not asking for a set of brembos or anything, just my opinion.

Stig
14-08-08, 06:05 PM
Aye but I'm compairing them to the brakes on my other 17 year old bike against the brakes on the sv that I bought brand new. Don't get me wrong they are not life threatening or anything, but the fella that started the thread was asking what we sv owners would like to see on a new model and I just feel that it's about time Suzuki slapped some four pot calipers on it, I'm not asking for a set of brembos or anything, just my opinion.

That'll bump the price of the SV for no good reason. As has been stated, the brakes on the SV are more than capable. Add braided lines and better pads and you have perfect stopping power and feel. Adding 4 pots is just not a requirement. The whole point of the SV is that it's an affordable budget bike. Start adding unnecessary bits and the whole point of the SV is lost. The price will go up and people will just look at other options instead.

Stu
14-08-08, 06:10 PM
, but the muppet that started the thread was asking what we sv owners would like to see on a new model .
Still bitter.

rowdy
14-08-08, 06:25 PM
Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with them on the road I was just not as impressed with them as I have been with other bike brakes. The process with evolution is to improve on what is being replaced surely and I don't think that improved brakes would hike the price of the bike significantly.

Stig
14-08-08, 06:27 PM
Don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with them on the road I was just not as impressed with them as I have been with other bike brakes. The process with evolution is to improve on what is being replaced surely and I don't think that improved brakes would hike the price of the bike significantly.

A fair point, but better brakes, better suspension, better seat, better...

See my point :?: It's budget for a reason. If Suzuki add all the bits people want better, it wouldn't be the cheap affordable bike it is now.

mattsavage
24-09-08, 12:32 AM
A completely blacked out, limited edition model... Like the Monster or Bonnie, but better and blacker! Or at least black out the exhaust system, that would be cool.

Gixxer wheels and rotors to make fork swaps easier and less expensive...

12 volt accessory ready wiring... Front and rear, so I can just plug in my phone and charge while I commute (120 miles per day...) or just make it easier to wire in accessory what-haves-you...

Maybe shorten up the rear end/passenger seat area and have it come with a factory cowl, ready for one up riding. We dont need that big long ugly light on the rear or a passenger seat... A few inches shorter back there would look bit**in...

A TRIKE Version!!!!! Hell Yeah! So I can put two fat girls back there!

...or not...

xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 12:47 AM
We dont need that big long ugly light on the rear.

Yes we do , it helps us identify another SV when we are behind it , thus making us catch it up to see if it`s anyone from here , giving us a chance to do an eyeball thread that never gets replied to :D

fastdruid
24-09-08, 12:59 AM
Keep it pretty much as is with maybe a style update and go to a different parts bin for the forks and brakes!

That said I'd love to see them do a (more expensive obviously) 'R' version, lighter, better suspension, full fairing and more power. Maybe style it like the GSV-R motogp bike.

Druid

mister c
24-09-08, 05:38 AM
Enough money to actually afford to buy one :)

Better suspension, slightly bigger capacity to take on the Shivver. Here's my Photoshop impression from last year, yes I know the chain is on the wrong side :)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/croozenooze/2008_SV-1.jpg

cmit37
24-09-08, 11:50 AM
I am not sure if it has been mentioned but in today's MCN:

The Mole:
New Suzuki 650
Suzuki's new bike launch in Paris has been well kept under secret - the new GSX-R1000 is a given, but they've done a good job of keeping the rest secret. I'm told that one bike will be a new 650 V-twin - but before you get excited about a new SV650 , that isn't the case. The V-Strom 650 is also continuing into 2009, so it's not that either. A friend in Europe claims that it will be a supermoto-style machine. I'd like to see a sportier machine with the 650 twin - but sadly I can't see it happening.

Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 11:55 AM
Maybe style it like the GSV-R motogp bike.
Nah... that's butt ugly.

thor
24-09-08, 12:09 PM
Slightly better suspension and brakes
A fender extender
a more comfy seat (perhaps thinner at the front for shorties, like the k5(?) gsxr600)
better oem tyres (but nothing fancy)
A slightly shorter reach to the clipons would help ergonomics
A slight touch up on the details (the oem indis don't really fit the pointy style)
ditch the huge snow shovel at the back
straight forward colours
key operated front seat - the allen key bolts are a bit of faff

If they do that, leave the power and engine the same, for the same cost or less, then it should stay in the same in group.

Finally, a bar mounted switch operated adjustable baffle. Why has no-one done this already?

Bibio
24-09-08, 12:23 PM
an SV-R 650 and an SV-R 1000

injury_ian
24-09-08, 12:32 PM
I can't believe that the ER6 series are having a revamp already! SUZUKI- get yer ass into gear!

Er6 revamps (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/september/15-21/sep2008-kawasaki-gives-er6-sporty-makeover/?&R=EPI-103030)

RichT
24-09-08, 01:15 PM
Personally I think it's time the SV had a facelift. Not that I dislike my pointy, quite the contrary, but most other manufacturers "upgrade" every couple of years or so and it's about time Suzuki turned their attention to the SV. Gixers, Bandits, GSX's, GSR's etc have all been given some attention, so it's only fair the SV is next.

I think a good move would be to differenciate the V-Twin from the inline fours in the same price bracket, i.e. aim at the sport market a little more. Not to go all out sports, but taylor the package that way. The Bandits and GSX have the new rider, commuter, weekend tourer areas pretty well covered. Thus the following list:

Better suspension F&R
Increase in BHP (up to around the 110 mark)
Overall facelift to fit with sport appearance, whilst retaining the user friendliness (?).

And most contraversially..... switch from a 650 and 1000 set-up to a single 750 number. (That'll get you all going)....

What do you think Orgers?

BrendanQ
24-09-08, 05:10 PM
better pillion seat really. and more comfy pegs, my gf is only 5'3 and if it aches her must be a nightmare for anyone tall. but thats my gripe at almost all modern bikes, the pillion seat is an after thought when it should be way up there IMO. there is no need to be stuck way up there if ur a pillion, cant do the centre of gravity any good surely? and a centre stand.......i grew up round my dads bikes and when he returned to biking a few years back he thought it was a joke that bikes didnt have centre stands. even his VF500F2 did and that was full HRC tarted up so no reason why modern sports bikes cant. just needs to be designed right. dont like checking my tyres when im out by wheeling an inch then stopping looking, then wheeling an inch or some more LOL. u would get strange looks! :rolleyes:

i like the curvy tank so something like that would look cool.

but overall i like it :-)

Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 05:14 PM
How long can the SV lump pass emissions laws, and with no real updates over the past few years is the end near?

BBadger
24-09-08, 06:54 PM
How long can the SV lump pass emissions laws, and with no real updates over the past few years is the end near?

No where near.
The new ones have duel sparks to burn more, thus making it more efficiant, or at least making it give of less CO2.

Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 07:04 PM
The new ones have duel sparks
This tends to be the last resort, hence why new motors are built.

It was just a thought, the SV has remained unchanged for so long now and that usually only happens to the soon to be discontinued.

MoDaddy
24-09-08, 07:16 PM
Something with styling on par with the Hyosung GT650X.

http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2007/11/2008-hyosung-gt650x-and-rx450sm-ready.html (http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2007/11/2008-hyosung-gt650x-and-rx450sm-ready.html)

A street-fighter version, maybe?

Better forks, less CLUNK in the shifting, accessory rack for a small bag.

Standard guards for the plastic case covers.

Dangerous Dave
24-09-08, 07:19 PM
Better forks,
Uhhh... no, they are worse.

xXBADGERXx
24-09-08, 07:36 PM
I`d like to see their paint finish on the side casings and forks becoming a bit better , if they do a supermoto style version with the engine as stated in MCN I would like to own one of those puppies :D

zsv650
24-09-08, 07:51 PM
yeah a 750 version would be nice with some better suspension as standard on it.

zunkus
25-09-08, 10:47 PM
Looks like this is the new SV...
Read more here...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/september/22-28/sep2508-Official-picture-2009-Suzuki-Gladius/?R=EPI-103118
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/suzu/suzuki_sfv_650_gladius.htm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20C/Suzuki%20SFV%20650%20Gladius%20%2009%20%203.jpg

injury_ian
25-09-08, 11:27 PM
Woot Woot - horah for Suzuki, Monster lookie-likeie, tis not hansome pointy tho.... ;)

Dangerous Dave
26-09-08, 08:21 AM
Looks like this is the new SV...
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20C/Suzuki%20SFV%20650%20Gladius%20%2009%20%203.jpg
It is to run alongside the SV this year, it shares the same engine so next year could be the SV's last with this replacing it altogether maybe???

lazymanc
26-09-08, 03:00 PM
Better finishing, stainless bolts / fixings, just higher quality all round really.

bornagain
27-09-08, 05:27 PM
New 2009 SV650 K9......

http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/SV650sportK9.jpg

Sorry everyone.....all we are getting is cosmetic changes:

Colour scheme = black
wheels = black
lenses = clear
forks = black
graphics = silver

Everything else identical to 2008 K8 model !