which bike after the sv650s?

[Ash77]

ive had my sv since march this year after passing my test. its been great and ive done about 2.5k miles on it on wkends etc. i'll have 1 yrs no claims in march 09 so then might be the time to upgrade. i was thinking of a gsxr750 k6/ninja 636 finances permitting. i might also be tempted by a fireblade. i dont really want to have to thrash a bike to make good progress. are 4cyls like this a good upgrade choice?

i dont want high running costs either so am put off by an aprillia 1000 twin etc. im open to a more upright position but dont really mind.
it has to have at least 90bhp and weigh under 200kg.

is a 4cyl the next thing to have and if so which are the most rounded?

if i put mine up for sale in the next few months it will have about 15k miles and is a napoleon blue, half faired, scorpion can, datatool, june 2006 model in good nik. whats a fair price for it?

cheers, ash

[instigator]

Sounds like you're 'upgrading' just for a change so don't buy new - what if you want to do the same again next year, you don't want to be stuck with lots of depreciation again!

After my first sv, I went onto a J1 ninja. Great bikes, could be very economical when required and very reliable.

You say you don't want to trash a bike to go places. You have to do this on the sv! If you get a 600cc IL4 sports machine then you'll be fine. Yes you can rev them higher but they have a lot more power so you don't always need to be in the high revs. Not at all! Course, if you want to be really lazy, I wholeheartedly recommend a gsxr1000. Effortless, endless acceleration from the word go, you really can not get bored of such a bike. I had the K2. Best bike I've had (maybe not the most 'fun' but best in :-0 sense). A newer 750 should be just as good.

Go for the 600 first though. Don't think there won't be much of a step up from V2 650 to IL4 600. There is. About 40bhp or so! Go for a test ride.

[Biker Biggles]

Firstly,if you are concerned about high running costs check how much insurance will increase with all those bikes you mention.A 600 might be doable,but a Fireblade will be very expensive to insure.

[Ash77]

just read my post back and i could have easily put 'change' than 'upgrade'. i love my bike, the sound, the flickability, the low costs etc but im used to the power now. i find keeping at 6-8 gives good progress when pressing, but have heard 600's need over this to go places. test drive is prob best.

early comments seem to say a 600 or 750 which was my gut anyway. heard the 636 is quite torquey and assume the gixxer 750 is. i usually get over 50mpg on my bike tho so wouldnt wanna dip below 40 really or pay over 500 insurance

do yous reckon my bike is worth mid 2000 ish?

[instigator]

Depends how old you are really. Insurance depends on how jammy you are or how hard you try. I paid £350-400 tpft for my k2 gsxr1000 and I'm only 23, 2 NCB, Zone 2 London. Same for a fireblade I had (it was crap in comparison btw).

Bike should easily be worth mid 2000ish IF you bought it new, otherwise give me some details and we can judge. ;)

This with midd cc vtwins is they feel a lot torquier but whereas in my opinion, compared to the new 600's, they're not really at all. Maybe in the very low down rev range but thats nothing really. It just makes in town work and quick 20mph overtakes easy, that's all. A fair few people also agree with this who have rode a few bikes and aren't the sv-or-nothing type.

[fizzwheel]

ive had my sv since march this year after passing my test. its been great and ive done about 2.5k miles on it on wkends etc.

You wont want to hear this, but keep what you've got and learn to get te maximum out of it.

I'd done 20K of all weater riding in two years before I got my K5 GSXR-750 and I still wasnt ready for how much of a leap in performance it was.

Get some more miles in and some more experience and then think about uprgrading IMHO.

[Ash77]

it was 220 for me tpft with zero no claims. im 30. was well happy with that. the biggest cost has prob been all the gear and having a shed built!

ive been on 1 rideout with northukbikers and tbh i was near the front (3 or 4) of a pack of about 12. they were pretty suprised with the sv.

if i sold id prob go for mcn. is that still a good place to sell?
if it was ebay id prob put her up for 2600 with best offer.

just a thought theres always the sv1000s!?

[Ash77]

You wont want to hear this, but keep what you've got and learn to get te maximum out of it.

I'd done 20K of all weater riding in two years before I got my K5 GSXR-750 and I still wasnt ready for how much of a leap in performance it was.

Get some more miles in and some more experience and then think about uprgrading IMHO.

sold! gixxer 750 it is lol, tho another year with my sv is still an option

[yorkie_chris]

2.5k? Is that just pushing it in and out of the garage? :-P

[chakraist]

I've had my SV (second one) since April, have put about 6k miles on it and I still don't know it perfectly- sure I know it very well, but that just makes me a better rider, I think. I've only been riding a year now so I still have a long way to go before I can classify myself as a good rider. My first SV, engine is deaad but I put about 4k miles on it. So about 10k on SV's and I don't know them perfectly yet.

IMHO as someone seemingly in a similar position to yourself, I wouldn't upgrade just yet, give it some more time.

[injury_ian]

2.5k? and you want a litre bike? lol

I was the same to be honest, BUT, I had enough sense to know that was a stupid idea.

I was definately not using the SV to its full potential then, I still don't think I'm using it to its full potential now (18 mnts / 14,000 miles).

May I point you towards *ahem* the IAM, you'll be a quicker rider, without the effort.

[Ash77]

some people buy 100bhp+ bikes straight away.
i'll never master corners cos im not interested in fully commiting
incase theres an unknown round the bend etc, but i can take bends ok now
while being safe. the sv has helped me go from no confidence to maybe average
which is where im happy to be. its a confidence inspiring bike. i could do with another 30-50% or so for some straights tho!

part of me thinking of changing is the mileage tbh. i dont want
it to get to 20k+ cos it might put a fair few off.

whats 'IAM' btw?

[fastdruid]

I find the 600's dull unless you wanted to speed.

Not a fat lot of go low down in comparison to the SV and then lots of go, great fun but only at 50+mph. Sure they've got more power but the same or only slightly more torque.

So I went for a VFR750, all the torque of the SV except it keeps going!

I kept my SV though and now it just sees track use.

Druid

[injury_ian]

IAM linky (http://www.iam.org.uk/eshop/membershipshop/Skill+for+Life+for+Riders.htm)

Its not all pipe and slippers, but there are a fair few about.
And I know I can keep pace with a confident GSX-R 750 rider, on me humble SV.

[independentphoto]

2.5k? and you want a litre bike? lol

I was the same to be honest, BUT, I had enough sense to know that was a stupid idea.

I was definately not using the SV to its full potential then, I still don't think I'm using it to its full potential now (18 mnts / 14,000 miles).

May I point you towards *ahem* the IAM, you'll be a quicker rider, without the effort.


:winner:

Ash. you might be perfectly fine on a supersport, but then again.... after that time and mileage. I'm just into my fourth year and 13000 miles on the SV and have to agree with Ian - still got more to learn. I'm a qualified IAM observer BTW. Done the Haslam Race Academy twice too (this year with instruction from Guy Martin!) and still got more to get from the SV.

My advice? Chill out and enjoy the SV for a while yet.

BTW....

whats a fair price for it?


Probably far less than you'd like - there are shed loads out there, and the dealers are selling them at great prices too.

Garry;)

[Jase22]

Supersports aren't the only 600s about, nekkid 6's seem to have a better tune for road usage.

[fastdruid]

Supersports aren't the only 600s about, nekkid 6's seem to have a better tune for road usage.

I've ridden a Hornet 600 (had one for a few weeks) and there's virtually nothing below 10k (when it takes off like a scalded cat). Which is 50mph in first.

The SV was far better unless you were speeding in a straight line, in which case the Hornet had the edge.

Druid

[instigator]

Ash....in the space of 2 years, I went from Kymco Zing 125-Honda firestorm and yzf750r - there is a lot of scare mongering in this thread, mostly from people I believe that don't think they have the self control should they jump on a bigger bike.

The throttle goes both ways and all. Just because you have a gsxr-whatever, doesn't mean you have to ride any more quickly compared to an sv650. You adapt quickly. Well I did, and plenty of others do. I say go for a test ride.

[Ash77]

cheers fellas. think i need to think it thru. i love my bike but finances permitting it would be nice to try another bike or 2 in the next few years

nice sv650 clips:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/07-SV-650-acceleration_156462.htm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pS0k7n4unLY

[rowdy]

Ash....in the space of 2 years, I went from Kymco Zing 125-Honda firestorm and yzf750r - there is a lot of scare mongering in this thread, mostly from people I believe that don't think they have the self control should they jump on a bigger bike.

The throttle goes both ways and all. Just because you have a gsxr-whatever, doesn't mean you have to ride any more quickly compared to an sv650. You adapt quickly. Well I did, and plenty of others do. I say go for a test ride.
I agree in part, when I had my first bike(vfr400-still got it) I rode my cousins sp1 and actually felt it easier to ride than the vfr, but i do think you should stick with the sv for a little while longer and get a bit more experience , after all you have said in one of your posts that you've gone from no confidence to average and the sv inspires confidence.